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    timjent
    9 years 10 months ago
    Waiting, too
    I have the same feeling in my stomach. As others have mentioned, I hope they expand the GA seating. I went all or nothing for GA with mail order; no second choice. I couldn't get myself to send in multiple money orders. With that feeling in my stomach I am tempted to buy another four online when they come out as insurance. I don't want to miss this but, wow, this is potentially an expensive weekend coming from VA. I don't want to keep sinking cash when mail order could show up in the mail in March after they disappear from the online brokers. Anyway, good luck to others. This surely will be epic.
  • geomeister
    9 years 10 months ago
    the cost vs the ethics
    Sir Dire, I agree, there will always be an ethical conundrum, and there will always be have and have-nots. I do not begrudge those who live in Marin County with million dollar homes...many have paid their dues and have worked hard for it.I feel for those living in the economically depressed areas, with debt, dead-end jobs, and need a ray of sunshine to brighten their day. Money does make life easier, and I agree, it is not always easy to come by. Everywhere you look, you can upgrade by paying more for something, from a good bottle of wine, to early entry on an airplane, heck, even the seat choices now come with a premium price. Organic food cost more, exclusive hotels cost more, that nice car comes at a price. VIP tickets may very well be $1000, who knows? I guess on Tuesday, we will all find out. We didn't create this system, and yes, greed comes in to play at the promoters end.Bill Graham was part of that back in the '60s, and he was both loved and vilified for his stance. Will the core 4 make money to showcase their music? You bet. Would they play for free, who knows. My first show in '72 was free, but I imagine the band got paid. Now they'll get paid more, even with the economic in-equality present in our society. Do we let people in for free or at a reduced cost because "They've paid their dues" over someone who is paying their dues now? No, that wouldn't be fair...Is it always fair? No. Does that suck? Yes. I am happy that the boys are doing this one more time, and a celebration of life and love is what we need...money grab issues, ethical considerations over costs or fairness not with-standing. Let's embrace the family, rich and poor, think globally, act locally, and do our best to support the music. In my twenties, no way could I afford to fly, much less upgrade. While I've worked in the same trade for over 40 years, I'm no where near the top. Back in the day, I had to sacrifice to pay for tickets and go to a show...18 bucks? times three days? Yikes! Man, this is such great music...listening to Sugar Magnolia this morning...So Direwulf I agree, there will always be ethical considerations, and that's where we each have to make our own decision. There is a limit, too, for each of us. I do not begrudge yours, and it will certainly be different from mine. I will not pay a grand for a ticket, but would I pay $500? That would hurt. Maybe, but dang...sure hope the mail order comes thru. Got a wad of cash invested in that endeavor, like many of us. The proof might boil down to a tough choice; we who invest in the travel and accommodations, and don't have tickets. I detest scalpers, who don't care about the family or the scene. But somewhere along the line, I might have to pay a higher price to someone who also paid a high price. I would choose that over a greedy grab for money..but there is a limit. I dislike anything I can't afford...but that "cost" is a moving target...that ain't gonna change. So I works, I saves, and I spends...like many of us...got debt, got life, got love, like many of us...and got plane tickets, got hotel confirmed, and I waits patiently. With peace and love and all good thoughts for all of us...have an awesome day! G
  • direwulf
    9 years 10 months ago
    cost of admission
    a person can pay their dues, but it still does not solve the ethical conundrum of buying their way into "exclusive" places because they have a wad of cash and other people don't. Yeah I get it, it's your money you can do what you want, but with increasing income equality in the temple of capitalism that is our country having sentiments such as this can seem off base and out of touch with the current reality for many in this country. Rationalize it, but it still doesn't change the fact that they are stepping in front of everyone else with a fistful of cash and saying I deserve to be here because now I can afford it an those people can not. Just because they used to not be able to afford it does not beget special privilege. Scalpers and the a secondary market are to blame for ticket prices the methods they employ to get tickets and distribute tickets is dubious at best. Anyone person says they paid their dues in the prosperous earlier years of this country obviously doesn't know what it's like to pay their dues in a time of the shrinking middle class, income inequality, student loan debt, no jobs, monocropping, big business, housing market crash, government default, republican anti-environment Koch brothers oligarchy. Rant over. And why is the phrase that says you've "put in your time" really just saying "I've paid enough" let me in. I will be buying tickets as well but I'm not spending 4000$ for two tickets just because I can. "I hate anything I cant afford" - Henry Rollins
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Grateful Dead Original Members Add Two Dates To Final Concerts

April 10, 2015

The original members of Grateful Dead have announced two additional shows at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California on June 27th and 28th, as part of their “Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of Grateful Dead” run. Along with the three shows at Chicago's Soldier Field on July 3rd, 4th, and 5th, the run will mark the original members' last-ever performances toget

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Duh. Bill Walton you dolt.
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So grateful the Santa Clara shows are a go and that they are using the lottery system! The letter they wrote was spot on and heartfelt. I hope all of you wanting to go to Santa Clara get tickets in the lottery!
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I know who I'd love to see sing . That would be Jorma
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Good luck everybody. Hope everyone's i's were dotted and t's were crossed and we ALL get in. Emails should start coming to us by late Thurs or definitely by friday. Once again GOOD LUCK!!
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Hornsby will sing Dew, Candyman, Ship. Bob will sing High Time and Phil will do Sugaree......Maybe
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good luck
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Fun times ahead for sure. I will check out the other versions of Morning Dew those have suggested. I know sometimes it depends on personal experience as to which one is best. As far as the MSG Dew in fall hat was a very hot dew. 1987 was the year of many Morning dews. Kaiser in March is another with the tear in his voice. If you can identify with tear in his voice you know what I mean...
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I realize there are probably other forums on this site to debate songs. Only putting it out thee for those who might not be aware of the Internet Archives. My 1st morning site every day. I pick a show and then go on to reading online news papers. Nothing like good ole Grateful Dead and last nights sports story's. 11 9 1979 is another different kind of Dew along with Saratoga 6 18 1983. And any from 1972. Also love Philly 3 24 1986 when they only played 1 song out of space. It being the Dew After all it does matter when all is said and done.
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I'm seeing 60% of The Dead's 2015 tour and I'm beyond Grateful! So many roads and songs to ease this soul!
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Are those timelines you gave for ticket winners known or guessed? As I tried to post yesterday but got eaten by the web gods...this non-communication about when ticket winners will be notified is figuratively killing me. After the whole Chicago 'thing' in terms of a ticket fiasco, I am not doing well again - this whole roller coaster ride of will I? won't I? is insane. I have been offered tickets to Chicago by some of the great people here so I will be seeing the band SOMEWHERE, but would like to just get this over with. Honestly, and I have shared this with some people here, I am kinda soured on the Dead after all of this. Where they were all I used to listen to, now I cannot really. Just kind of angering to be honest. Assuming that this is a digital lottery (I put as much artwork and coloured my electronic purchase as best as I could to catch digital eyes...) I would have expected that as soon as the timer ticked past midnight EST, that emails would have started going out from some program that randomly selected winners...I was wrong again. And yep. I am loving seeing all the scalpers already on Ebay for SC...just like old times (I missed you old friends...keep on keepin' on)
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I am not familiar with the specifics of the software that will be generating these so called "random" winners, but I imagine that there will have to be some human verification going on. The last thing they, or us, want is to shoot out results, and then have to rescind some of those because the computer program F*%#ed up.Either way, it will be a whole hell of a lot faster than the physical mail order system for Soldier. Whether it is more "random" than that?? Not sure. But it is what it is. It is exciting to be back in this "wait and see" game. Only 5 days this time, instead of 6 weeks or so. Love the action. Best of luck to all.
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I am glad that there are some optimistic people here...I just can't bring myself to optimism. I have been optimistic too many times over the last couple of months and only to be let down time and time again...I am developing an abused spouse syndrome here (not to say I am comparing getting tickets to anything quite as abhorrent as beating your spouse...far from it; I am comparing the problem of wanting to trust, but only to be let down each time you do...)
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I seem to remember something about notification by the 19th, but I don't seem to be able to locate where I read that now. Maybe I misread something, but that's the timeline I'm on for now. Congrats on your Chicago hookup and good luck to you (and everyone) for the Golden Shore. It's been a rough ride, but at least there's a place to yell into the void.
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If memory serves, it will be by 11:59 pm edt (?) Sunday April 19. I think emails will start going out Friday, but I am not positive. It's out of our hands.
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Hilarious by the way. thanks it has been such a roller coaster. But I guess the uncertainty brings some of that excitement. At least this lottery system will be like the guillotine - Quick and painless -. But maybe not, since if we don't score we will still be alive and very much able to feel the pain. Well I guess it will at least be quick, unlike the walk to the mailbox and the dreaded hope for no Pinky for six weeks.
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Right from the web site re ticketing... The ticket request period has closed. If you placed a request, you will be notified of your ticket status by 11:59 PM ET on April 19, 2015.
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I was lucky enough to get tickets to the Chicago shows through GDTST Too. I ended up letting a friend use them since I can't go now. Do you think that they'll check to see who got Chicago tickets and take them out of the running for the Santa Clara shows? Or is it completely random?
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Northern Cali Native here...These past few months I have experienced every emotion possible regarding Fare Thee Well....(believe me...my kids are ready to commit me)!All I know, is that I love this music so much, and since my first shows in the 80's Greek..Oakland Co. Cal Expo, Shoreline etc.... I have been so deadicated! Now... everywhere I go lately I see Dead stickers...t-shirts etc.. Bars and clubs are featuring Dead cover bands all over!!! Enjoy this Celebration of the Greatest scene ever that created 50 years of stories, versions of tunes, friends, memories(some lost)....I am in the lottery like everyone else trying for 2 each day for my wife and I. Stay positive....Smoke a bowl and listen to Jerry!! LISTENING TO MORNING DEW LIVE AT THE COW PALACE NEW YEARS EVE 1976...AMAZING!!! PEACE!
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Ok so you are telling me I can stop checking my email like an obsessed teenage girl waiting for a boy she likes to text her back? God I miss Bieber...must be zen about this one...I need a mantra...I don't care...I mustn't care...it is only a concert...I see some more sleepless nights in the future...
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Well said. Well Said. Thanks for that. It truly has become quite the phenomenon over the years, and doesn't show much sign of slowing down anytime soon. With regard to the Soldier ticket check, I doubt it, but you never know. But that seems like another potentially complicated step that they most likely would not make.
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Hitler got his from his agent on Stubhub.... You and Klang will be at the left coast party..... I've got a feelin, a feelin deep inside....oh yeah!!!
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Since Ticketstoday is a part of Live Nation / Ticketmaster, I am hoping this random ticket selection goes as promised.
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GDTSTOO did create a database for the Chicago mail order, but they did not say that they would give any priority to those that got shut out. While that would be awesome, I wouldn't expect that they could pull it off too easily. Also, CHicago was done the old fashioned way via envelopes, and Santa Clara is being handled via (a subsidy of) Ticketmaster, which has the technical ability to cross check addresses and credit cards for the 4 per night per household rule. While I hate that Ticketmaster is involved, I imagine that they also provide the door staff, or at least the ticket scanners that will cross check tickets against the database to check for re-entries, forgeries, etc., which would be a daunting task for any small company to pull off.
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GDTSTOO did create a database for the Chicago mail order, but they did not say that they would give any priority to those that got shut out. While that would be awesome, I wouldn't expect that they could pull it off too easily. Also, Chicago was done the old fashioned way via envelopes, and Santa Clara is being handled via (a subsidy of) Ticketmaster, which has the technical ability to cross check addresses and credit cards for the 4 per night per household rule. While I hate that Ticketmaster is involved, I imagine that they also provide the door staff, or at least the ticket scanners that will cross check tickets against the database to check for re-entries, forgeries, etc., which would be a daunting task for any small company to pull off.
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Phew...I was worried there that Ticketbastard wasn't going to get their pound of flesh...I feel so privileged that there is a wonderful corporation dominating the market and making crazy amounts of money off of ticket sales (think what? average $15 to $20 per ticket sold for most of western society...) that is looking out for us and keeping our needs at heart...not to mention a totally fair and unbeatable system for the masses...thank you Ticketmaster. I so wish Pearl Jam and Bieber destroyed you when they tried.
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Hey properlejdi. Those are my own estimations on notifications for the lottery. Good luck!!
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People have already started noticing charges etc. on their cards for the SC shows...
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People are saying MusicToday has posted a pending transaction on the CC. That's gotta be it, right?
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Yup
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Has anyone heard of anyone getting an email confirmation for the SC shows yet?
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I have a pending charge of 359.55 from Music Today!!....called bank to confirm....shaking!!!I asked for 2 for each day in SC 59-99 range. Total was 495.17. I am assuming I got 2 for each day at the 79 price point???!!! OMG!!!!! Is it a MIRACLE????!!!! Best wishes to all!!!
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My credit card is showing a charge from Music Today.com. The amount charged means I will have tickets for one day in GA Field or Level One ($199.50) plus fees and service charge. I will know by 9:00 PST April 19 exact tickets. Grateful!!
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Just checked my online CC statement - pending transaction of $314.33 from MusicToday. No confirmation email yet, but it looks like I'll be going to SC as well as Chicago!
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Now to Stubhub to cash in...I guess I can be happy I am going to SF (stop complaining...just be happy)... Is there a seating chart anymore showing where the tickets are? Cuz yeah - based on exchange rates, I would be in the $80 section - so just better than the no view nosebleeds...thanks again. My butt hole hurts
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Count your blessings dude...and congrats. I was shut out of all Chicago attempts and closely monitoring my CC for a charge and nada do far. One has to believe this is "programmatically" controlled by TM (parent of TicketsToday) and it's evident by the posts here, charges are happening like wildfire of peoples cards. Smile, Prop - you're going to the Cally warm-up shows !!
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Hey Tony, mine didn't show up either, I had to call my CC to find out if there were charges...good luck And sorry - I don't mean to complain in front of those that may get shut out of this...just this whole thing has been...um...emotionally taxing.
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You are invited to the party.....that's a start my man..... Hope to see you there.....
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These could end up being the best of the five. Never know with DEAD shows.
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They are all priceless.... Saw the stones at Bottom Line NYC and El Mocambo in Toronto as warm up shows....shorter than most, sure... Epic.... Fo shizzle..... We need to be thankful we were invited to the party.... Ain't no time to hate...... So let's get on with the show
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You just never know with the Grateful Dead. First 2nd or 3rd nights of a 4 night New Years run would often be better than New Years (as far as the playing)show itself.
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AWE-SOME...I spent a whole 15 minutes looking for that. So depending on the service fees, I am either in the extreme nosebleeds (400 level) or in the pit. I thought the service fees were a percentage of the ticket price...so if the service fees were 15%, then I would be in the pit and I will STFU.