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  • geomeister
    9 years 10 months ago
    What deadant said
    yup, that is true..by hook or crook, you gotta get there. I planned for this one, actually, not, cause there wasn't much advance notice....but when the show was announced, I was wishy washy for about a half hour, then tried to figure out how to convince my wife, then went for it....she was on board right off the bat, thank goodness. Face it, we blow money on a bunch of stuff. beer, wine, fast women, song, and the other stuff best not admitted too. If someone forked over $10,000 for a seat license at Soldier field for the Bears, and he wants to sell his GD ticket, well, dammit, I'm gonna buy it...cause I ain't got $10,000 and I don't care about the bears! I've given away miracle tickets, stood in line, did the overnight thing, but now I'm older and wiser and a bit more settled. I throw money at problems...money I didn't have in the 70's and 80's and even 90's. I've paid my dues, many times over, and I appreciate everyone's sentiment. When Bill Graham started charging for rock concerts, people went nuts, as they thought it should be free....and it's been an money game ever since. BUT THAT"S NOT THE POINT. The family needs you to be there...on site, in the stadium, or on the streets...I can see a half million folks heading to Chicago, because it promises to be a magical weekend. Whether Bobby makes a mint, Peter makes a bundle, or a season ticket seat holder makes a wad of cash, it's all the same. It's the music, it's the vibes, it's the community, it's the love; that's what counts. Ok bye for now...and how does that song go?
  • DeadAnt
    9 years 10 months ago
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    It is easy to blame the scalpers, buts its demand that drives them. And the simple fact that a lot of people do have the means to buy the tickets from a secondary market. I'm not a fan of the process either, but the scalpers are very resourceful, and they put in work to get the tickets, and the people you see at the actual show are fans who were able to afford the price. Your goal would have to be to stop people with money from paying the prices. And that is not going to happen. People cant even get on board for healthcare in this country. The problem is the entire mindset of the country, not just show tickets. Part of what makes some shows good is being hard to get. There are a lot of shows with no demand and guess what the scalpers don't buy up those tickets. A true die-hard fan will be on the MO first day. On the phone the first day. in line two days early. Make no mistake, true fans end up at the show. Some fans have no cash but still go, they work shakedown, they save up, look for a miracle. Some just want to be on the bus and seeing shows come in waves of true miracles. Regular fans should save up, take the day off to get the ticket, ask for an hour lunch when the tickets go on sale. Have a show fund in place before tickets are announced because they know they are going to want a show. Get friends together and band together to get the tickets. Make it a positive challenge and not be defeated before even trying. I for one would have liked to seen some free concerts offered in places with parking as far as the eye can see. This whole gig and process is about making money. Heck the scalpers might be the true fans after all...
  • unkle sam
    9 years 10 months ago
    minor9th
    very well said. A sad end of days for sure.
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Grateful Dead Original Members Add Two Dates To Final Concerts

April 10, 2015

The original members of Grateful Dead have announced two additional shows at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California on June 27th and 28th, as part of their “Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of Grateful Dead” run. Along with the three shows at Chicago's Soldier Field on July 3rd, 4th, and 5th, the run will mark the original members' last-ever performances toget

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Submitted by DevilsFriend on Tue, 04/14/2015 - 16:07

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Duh. Bill Walton you dolt.
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Submitted by cosofsky on Tue, 04/14/2015 - 19:32

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So grateful the Santa Clara shows are a go and that they are using the lottery system! The letter they wrote was spot on and heartfelt. I hope all of you wanting to go to Santa Clara get tickets in the lottery!
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Submitted by snafu on Tue, 04/14/2015 - 19:43

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I know who I'd love to see sing . That would be Jorma
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Submitted by truckineric on Tue, 04/14/2015 - 20:40

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Good luck everybody. Hope everyone's i's were dotted and t's were crossed and we ALL get in. Emails should start coming to us by late Thurs or definitely by friday. Once again GOOD LUCK!!
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Submitted by truckineric on Tue, 04/14/2015 - 21:05

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Hornsby will sing Dew, Candyman, Ship. Bob will sing High Time and Phil will do Sugaree......Maybe
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Submitted by truckineric on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 00:00

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good luck
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Submitted by hockey_john on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 05:40

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Fun times ahead for sure. I will check out the other versions of Morning Dew those have suggested. I know sometimes it depends on personal experience as to which one is best. As far as the MSG Dew in fall hat was a very hot dew. 1987 was the year of many Morning dews. Kaiser in March is another with the tear in his voice. If you can identify with tear in his voice you know what I mean...
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Submitted by hockey_john on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 05:58

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I realize there are probably other forums on this site to debate songs. Only putting it out thee for those who might not be aware of the Internet Archives. My 1st morning site every day. I pick a show and then go on to reading online news papers. Nothing like good ole Grateful Dead and last nights sports story's. 11 9 1979 is another different kind of Dew along with Saratoga 6 18 1983. And any from 1972. Also love Philly 3 24 1986 when they only played 1 song out of space. It being the Dew After all it does matter when all is said and done.
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Submitted by terrapinstationed on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 06:11

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I'm seeing 60% of The Dead's 2015 tour and I'm beyond Grateful! So many roads and songs to ease this soul!
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Submitted by properlejdi on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 08:19

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Are those timelines you gave for ticket winners known or guessed? As I tried to post yesterday but got eaten by the web gods...this non-communication about when ticket winners will be notified is figuratively killing me. After the whole Chicago 'thing' in terms of a ticket fiasco, I am not doing well again - this whole roller coaster ride of will I? won't I? is insane. I have been offered tickets to Chicago by some of the great people here so I will be seeing the band SOMEWHERE, but would like to just get this over with. Honestly, and I have shared this with some people here, I am kinda soured on the Dead after all of this. Where they were all I used to listen to, now I cannot really. Just kind of angering to be honest. Assuming that this is a digital lottery (I put as much artwork and coloured my electronic purchase as best as I could to catch digital eyes...) I would have expected that as soon as the timer ticked past midnight EST, that emails would have started going out from some program that randomly selected winners...I was wrong again. And yep. I am loving seeing all the scalpers already on Ebay for SC...just like old times (I missed you old friends...keep on keepin' on)
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Submitted by Velveteen on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 08:31

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I am not familiar with the specifics of the software that will be generating these so called "random" winners, but I imagine that there will have to be some human verification going on. The last thing they, or us, want is to shoot out results, and then have to rescind some of those because the computer program F*%#ed up.Either way, it will be a whole hell of a lot faster than the physical mail order system for Soldier. Whether it is more "random" than that?? Not sure. But it is what it is. It is exciting to be back in this "wait and see" game. Only 5 days this time, instead of 6 weeks or so. Love the action. Best of luck to all.
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Submitted by properlejdi on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 08:41

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I am glad that there are some optimistic people here...I just can't bring myself to optimism. I have been optimistic too many times over the last couple of months and only to be let down time and time again...I am developing an abused spouse syndrome here (not to say I am comparing getting tickets to anything quite as abhorrent as beating your spouse...far from it; I am comparing the problem of wanting to trust, but only to be let down each time you do...)
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Submitted by dmeszler on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 08:51

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I seem to remember something about notification by the 19th, but I don't seem to be able to locate where I read that now. Maybe I misread something, but that's the timeline I'm on for now. Congrats on your Chicago hookup and good luck to you (and everyone) for the Golden Shore. It's been a rough ride, but at least there's a place to yell into the void.
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Submitted by StellaMoon on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 08:52

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If memory serves, it will be by 11:59 pm edt (?) Sunday April 19. I think emails will start going out Friday, but I am not positive. It's out of our hands.
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Submitted by Velveteen on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 08:55

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Hilarious by the way. thanks it has been such a roller coaster. But I guess the uncertainty brings some of that excitement. At least this lottery system will be like the guillotine - Quick and painless -. But maybe not, since if we don't score we will still be alive and very much able to feel the pain. Well I guess it will at least be quick, unlike the walk to the mailbox and the dreaded hope for no Pinky for six weeks.
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Submitted by tfonts on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 09:00

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Right from the web site re ticketing... The ticket request period has closed. If you placed a request, you will be notified of your ticket status by 11:59 PM ET on April 19, 2015.
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Submitted by honumama on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 09:08

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I was lucky enough to get tickets to the Chicago shows through GDTST Too. I ended up letting a friend use them since I can't go now. Do you think that they'll check to see who got Chicago tickets and take them out of the running for the Santa Clara shows? Or is it completely random?
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Submitted by Eyes Of Rocklin on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 09:15

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Northern Cali Native here...These past few months I have experienced every emotion possible regarding Fare Thee Well....(believe me...my kids are ready to commit me)!All I know, is that I love this music so much, and since my first shows in the 80's Greek..Oakland Co. Cal Expo, Shoreline etc.... I have been so deadicated! Now... everywhere I go lately I see Dead stickers...t-shirts etc.. Bars and clubs are featuring Dead cover bands all over!!! Enjoy this Celebration of the Greatest scene ever that created 50 years of stories, versions of tunes, friends, memories(some lost)....I am in the lottery like everyone else trying for 2 each day for my wife and I. Stay positive....Smoke a bowl and listen to Jerry!! LISTENING TO MORNING DEW LIVE AT THE COW PALACE NEW YEARS EVE 1976...AMAZING!!! PEACE!
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Submitted by properlejdi on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 09:17

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Ok so you are telling me I can stop checking my email like an obsessed teenage girl waiting for a boy she likes to text her back? God I miss Bieber...must be zen about this one...I need a mantra...I don't care...I mustn't care...it is only a concert...I see some more sleepless nights in the future...
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Submitted by Velveteen on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 09:19

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Well said. Well Said. Thanks for that. It truly has become quite the phenomenon over the years, and doesn't show much sign of slowing down anytime soon. With regard to the Soldier ticket check, I doubt it, but you never know. But that seems like another potentially complicated step that they most likely would not make.
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Submitted by _ on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 09:21

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Hitler got his from his agent on Stubhub.... You and Klang will be at the left coast party..... I've got a feelin, a feelin deep inside....oh yeah!!!
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Submitted by TCarr on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 09:38

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Since Ticketstoday is a part of Live Nation / Ticketmaster, I am hoping this random ticket selection goes as promised.
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Submitted by seeing red on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 09:42

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GDTSTOO did create a database for the Chicago mail order, but they did not say that they would give any priority to those that got shut out. While that would be awesome, I wouldn't expect that they could pull it off too easily. Also, CHicago was done the old fashioned way via envelopes, and Santa Clara is being handled via (a subsidy of) Ticketmaster, which has the technical ability to cross check addresses and credit cards for the 4 per night per household rule. While I hate that Ticketmaster is involved, I imagine that they also provide the door staff, or at least the ticket scanners that will cross check tickets against the database to check for re-entries, forgeries, etc., which would be a daunting task for any small company to pull off.
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Submitted by seeing red on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 09:42

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GDTSTOO did create a database for the Chicago mail order, but they did not say that they would give any priority to those that got shut out. While that would be awesome, I wouldn't expect that they could pull it off too easily. Also, Chicago was done the old fashioned way via envelopes, and Santa Clara is being handled via (a subsidy of) Ticketmaster, which has the technical ability to cross check addresses and credit cards for the 4 per night per household rule. While I hate that Ticketmaster is involved, I imagine that they also provide the door staff, or at least the ticket scanners that will cross check tickets against the database to check for re-entries, forgeries, etc., which would be a daunting task for any small company to pull off.
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Submitted by properlejdi on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 10:29

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Phew...I was worried there that Ticketbastard wasn't going to get their pound of flesh...I feel so privileged that there is a wonderful corporation dominating the market and making crazy amounts of money off of ticket sales (think what? average $15 to $20 per ticket sold for most of western society...) that is looking out for us and keeping our needs at heart...not to mention a totally fair and unbeatable system for the masses...thank you Ticketmaster. I so wish Pearl Jam and Bieber destroyed you when they tried.
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Submitted by truckineric on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 10:35

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Hey properlejdi. Those are my own estimations on notifications for the lottery. Good luck!!
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Submitted by AzNiner on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 12:20

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People have already started noticing charges etc. on their cards for the SC shows...
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Submitted by Velveteen on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 12:30

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People are saying MusicToday has posted a pending transaction on the CC. That's gotta be it, right?
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Submitted by _ on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 12:23

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Yup
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Submitted by honumama on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 13:23

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Has anyone heard of anyone getting an email confirmation for the SC shows yet?
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Submitted by Eyes Of Rocklin on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 14:34

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I have a pending charge of 359.55 from Music Today!!....called bank to confirm....shaking!!!I asked for 2 for each day in SC 59-99 range. Total was 495.17. I am assuming I got 2 for each day at the 79 price point???!!! OMG!!!!! Is it a MIRACLE????!!!! Best wishes to all!!!
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Submitted by direwolf58 on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 13:41

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My credit card is showing a charge from Music Today.com. The amount charged means I will have tickets for one day in GA Field or Level One ($199.50) plus fees and service charge. I will know by 9:00 PST April 19 exact tickets. Grateful!!
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Submitted by Road Hat on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 13:55

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Just checked my online CC statement - pending transaction of $314.33 from MusicToday. No confirmation email yet, but it looks like I'll be going to SC as well as Chicago!
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Submitted by properlejdi on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 18:00

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Submitted by properlejdi on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 14:29

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Now to Stubhub to cash in...I guess I can be happy I am going to SF (stop complaining...just be happy)... Is there a seating chart anymore showing where the tickets are? Cuz yeah - based on exchange rates, I would be in the $80 section - so just better than the no view nosebleeds...thanks again. My butt hole hurts
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Submitted by tfonts on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 14:28

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Count your blessings dude...and congrats. I was shut out of all Chicago attempts and closely monitoring my CC for a charge and nada do far. One has to believe this is "programmatically" controlled by TM (parent of TicketsToday) and it's evident by the posts here, charges are happening like wildfire of peoples cards. Smile, Prop - you're going to the Cally warm-up shows !!
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Submitted by properlejdi on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 14:34

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Hey Tony, mine didn't show up either, I had to call my CC to find out if there were charges...good luck And sorry - I don't mean to complain in front of those that may get shut out of this...just this whole thing has been...um...emotionally taxing.
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Submitted by properlejdi on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 18:00

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Submitted by _ on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 14:52

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You are invited to the party.....that's a start my man..... Hope to see you there.....
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Submitted by truckineric on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 14:54

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These could end up being the best of the five. Never know with DEAD shows.
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Submitted by _ on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 14:59

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They are all priceless.... Saw the stones at Bottom Line NYC and El Mocambo in Toronto as warm up shows....shorter than most, sure... Epic.... Fo shizzle..... We need to be thankful we were invited to the party.... Ain't no time to hate...... So let's get on with the show
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Submitted by truckineric on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 15:11

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You just never know with the Grateful Dead. First 2nd or 3rd nights of a 4 night New Years run would often be better than New Years (as far as the playing)show itself.
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Submitted by properlejdi on Wed, 04/15/2015 - 15:12

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AWE-SOME...I spent a whole 15 minutes looking for that. So depending on the service fees, I am either in the extreme nosebleeds (400 level) or in the pit. I thought the service fees were a percentage of the ticket price...so if the service fees were 15%, then I would be in the pit and I will STFU.