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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • snafu
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    Why the boots from the 90's are not necessary
    Unlike most recent radio boots that are now coming out many of the boots put out in the 90's on labels like KTS were of 80's and 90's shows and we all lnow those are worthless. Sorry just kidding many boots especially by KTS of those 80's and 90's shows were really good quality. My only opinion on sales as opposed to trades is a bit of guilt. I know they didn't like them and anyone of the posters who get downright nasty about ptb and their "rights" know better or their moral compass has a false North reading. The truth was/is it's taking something that ain't yours.
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    Here's my take and I really don't care who agrees with me or not... I'm not trying to fight or point fingers because the reality is that we are entitled to do whatever the hell we want regardless of potential consequence In my opinion these scalpers are far worse than the bootleggers. It's frustrating to hear folks say they invested in extra copies of these limited releases to jack up the price on some third party site. While that ramps up sales here for the good people of rhino/GDM, it sucks for the people who want to hear the tapes in the best quality, which I think is important. I must admit I was one of the first, I believe, to propose selling individual 30 trips shows on this site. I still don't feel great about that but I felt like I was helping those who didn't want to buy the whole set. Furthermore I didn't buy multiple sets, I proposed breaking up a 30 trips so that I could afford the shows that I wanted out of it. That's it right there. It is very clear that for some, buying as many limited releases as they can and re-selling for as much as 5x-10x what they paid has become standard procedure. It's whatever you feel like doing, but that is truly keeping more people from hearing this band how they would want you to hear them. With Bootleggers I feel like they just aren't in the same market space as the folks at Rhino. They don't have a Norman. They don't have the ever-distracted Lemieux drumming up hype. They don't comission artists. The bOotleggers give you music which was intended to be heard by a band that most of us love. Rhino/WMG's product here stands head and shoulders above what is readily available, and they know it. I really don't feel like dusty old boots deter someone from buying a full Norman production upon it's release. Maybe I'm wrong. I just feel like it's better if more people hear the music. I get the limited release model and why it makes sense for business, but I also don't think GDM loses any money when dead fans pay for a boot. Furthermore GDM doesn't lose any money when scalpers scalp. Rhino has a good thing going; constant sell outs with 4 releases a year (Dave's Picks). I forget how fast the 72 trunk sold out but it was like $3 million dollars in pre-sales. They can release the shows that they have in the vault at their leisure for years to come without worrying about cash flow. They can have their cake and eat it too, and I think that's great for most us. It's the fan without the capital, or sometimes just not online at the right time, that ends up holding the short end of the stick. Maybe these two issues aren't related at all, but I feel strongly that when it comes down to it, it really is about the music and the number of people that it touches. I really don't need a lesson in economics, so please spare me the whole spiel about why it makes sense for guys to scalp or the thing about why we shouldn't boot. We ought to do a lot of things to make the world a better place for ourselves and others. Call it slacktivism if you like, but for now do whatever you want, believe that change is still possible, and listen to the Grateful Dead. I just wanted to tell you all how I feel. Thanks for reading
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    test me, test me, why don't you arrest me
    bootlegs would not be necessary if the ptb released shows that we want. I have purchased a lot of bootlegs, on cd and vinyl, some good, some not so good, but all new music that at the time I had not heard. Do I still have those boots? Sure, KTS released a slew of them that had excellent sound and great packaging. Those who have never bought a bootleg, probably were not deadheads back in the day when that was the only way to get to hear a show unless you were there. Before that, there weren't even very many tapes made, especially in the 60's and early 70's, they weren't allowed. No taping allowed at the door when you went in, so if you got caught, they confiscated the tape and in some cases, made you leave the show. Now that there is the net, you can get all you want for free if you want it. open up the vault, at the speed that rhino releases shows, we will all be dead before they get to the 90's shows. Is it possible for the vault to be opened? not as long as there is money to be made from it, no. So I bought a bunch of boots, turned a lot of folks on to them, which in turn got them on the bus, which in turn makes the band money, why not? Years ago I used to say, anyway that gets this great music out there for people to hear and experience is a good thing. Ain't no time to hate...barely time to wait. You have to admit, we do a lot of waiting for shows to come our way and some may never be released.
  • icecrmcnkd
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    Jerry’s exact words about bootlegging. Thanks for the link Mr. DC.
  • drcomedy1966
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    Glad yours arrived - still nothing here. Had a few other packages go missing lately, so getting concerned...
  • daverock
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    I had that Silver Rarities cd of Cornell 8th May 1977, too. It was pretty good. Before that, in the 80s, I had a tape of the second set-which was pretty bad. When it was officially released I bought the box set without a second thought. I didn't have a computer when the 1969 Fillmore Box set came out, so I missed it, and got the 3 cd version from Spin in England. But I've got 1st March 1969 on a bootleg, which, again, is better than the tape I used to have. If it came out officially I would buy it immediately, and leave my bootleg in a charity shop. Terrible, what goes on, isn't it? Obviously, as said before, I am not one for downloading, or listening to music online.
  • guit30
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    Bootlegs not necessary with the Dead
    We really have so much great music that the Dead produces very well for us, that we don't need to support Dead bootlegs. Have a great day folk.Guit30
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    Is very good, in my humble opinion, 4.5 Dead bolts (out of 5). I love the Mississippi Half-Step... opener. This 2nd set St. Stephen brings a good refreshing perma-smile to my face, or so people tell me. However on an odd note, with Truckin' I get an embarrassing arousal. It's that good for me. I wish I was able to make this show, but other priorities came 1st back then. I was only just over a 2 hour drive to the south of Binghamton. From what I have read about this show, you had to be there in attendance to get full effect and great memories, because this audio recording is only one part of the whole experience of this show. The bottom line here: I am glad that this show got an official release. Thank you, Dave & co.
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    Way to call me out by name under false pretenses, then ignore my entire reply... then you accuse those of us that feel promoting sketchy unauthorized bootlegs on the Dead's official site is inappropriate, as being "law and order conservatives". What a strange way to engage in what has been a fairly civil discussion. Really there's no need for being so defensive bud, no one is saying anything about your personal motives or character. I think I've said about all I want on this topic, so its back to lurking in my cave. But before I go, I refer you back to that interview with Jerry Garcia, he really does address most of what is being discussed in regards to bootlegs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QBJ8pBdpao . skip to around 29minutes in.
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    Thanks for the pointer. I illegally downloaded it off youtube, where it was probably posted illegally, I am such a scum!
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Sixtus - Yes! That's the NFA jam I highlighted a few months ago - the setlist looks kinda standard but that jam in NFA goes on for a looong time and has many moments that are Other One-ish. A scooby-snack where you don't expect one.... and a jam I will go back to often. Speaking of Scooby Doo - here's a killer local (Boston) band I recently mentioned that recently played the Scooby Duo background music at a show I saw. NOT the cheesy main theme song with vocals, but the jazzy background music. I recognized it instantly and just about fell out of my chair from the nostalgia... If you ever watched Scooby Doo, this melody will bring a smile to your face: https://youtu.be/Jchxzag1-ik. Some great guitar work if you listen to the whole track.
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Jeepers..
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Listening to that 11/15/71 sequence on Spotify now...to quote Swingers, well Michael, I'll bite. Transportational stuff. I haven't been as high on '71 lately as I once imagined (Dave's 22 and Bonus didn't knock me out), but the NFA > Goin' Down The Road from Skull & Roses is one of the prime movers of me being a Dead fan, so hearing this one from ~7 months later getting all out there is a treat. That Skull & Roses track, plus the Bertha opener, are untouchables to me. Though I still haven't heard all of that release..so mine is probably like a cow's opinion to you all (that is, moo). This Road Trips has long been on my radar as a necessary acquisition, but I've been slow playing on getting the Road Trips. Still getting up to speed on other stuff, so it's nice to leave some mystery out there. The Fillmore '69 box set is another one, maybe someday I'll pay the ungodly amount on the secondary market or acquire by other methods, but not Russian it.
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First, what a perfect descriptor for the instantly found delicious nugget. Second, that theme song is totally It. I was pretty much raised on Scooby Doo after school there for a few years; latch-key and all, you know? Love that kind of music. Reminds me of Medeski Martin & Wood with some Scofield thrown in. Another Boston meeting house. Third, I clearly missed your offering of the aforementioned NFA jammyness and I have now experienced it by mere happenstance but the fact that these sort of shows get the spotlight is what really counts. We All know how the song enlightens: "Sometimes you can get shown the light… " Next, Muleskinner applause your way for jumping down a rabbit hole. Finally. "If it wasn't for you meddling kids I would've gotten away with it!!" - Old Man Withers Sixtus
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I'll see your "007 373 5963" and raise you a "Created by Warren Robinett"
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....X. VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS ARE PLAYOFF BOUND!! sorry for the interruption. As you were..... . . VegasStrong
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I think if we start telling bestiality jokes and arguing over our favorite Kiss album they will announce a new release. That's always worked in the past.
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Yeah, I remember as if it was yesterday, being 9 yrs old and the neighbor kid down the street showing us "the secret of the speck". This uncharted surprise turnred out to be a bigger thrill than winning the game. Good stuff. I ended up getting one of those Atari throwback consoles last year, and sure enough, the old trick still works. Best KISS album? Alive! and Destroyer. Best of the solo albums - Ace Frehley of course.
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Ok I'll bite. Did you hear the one about the princess kissing the frog. Let's see best kiss album that's easy.... none. Ok I'm waiting
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I heard from a reliable source that MaryE called Dave on his red phone in the wee hours this morning. This phone is only to be used in dire emergencies.. and is usually followed by breaking news. A box set announcement is imminent.. unless, of course, Dave is on holiday with Bolo in the Peruvian rain forest which case we will have to wait for him to come down before he films the release announcement. This, of course, is a distinct possibility.
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Scooby Doo background music.... ...on acid. Jeepers. Scooby Doo meets Kiss Dave.. save us from ourselves.. Post the seaside chat already!
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never quite understood the popularity of that band.
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Scooby and Shaggy sure seemed to like them. I feel a box set announcement bubbling up through the works here. I have no idea what it's going to be.. but a box set of rare, old, extremely kick ass partials is likely going to get released at some point. Especially if some of those partials are from those old 8 tracks they made in the Pacific NW in 1968. Channeling Dave making a seaside chat video today... The weather in Vancouver today... am rain, ending late morning. High of 52, partly cloudy, winds SW 5 to 10 mph. Sounds like great release video weather if you ask me.
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Is anyone else getting tired of looking at the exact same home page everyday? They need to spice it up...with a new release!
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....I think last year I said Rock and Roll Over, so I'm going with Rock and Roll Over.
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https://archive.org/details/gd1987-03-27.140855.sbd.miller.flac2496 We have two other very good shows played on this day. https://archive.org/details/gd1986-03-27.121600.sbd.miller.flac16 Only time "Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues" was ever performed. And In the strangest of places... https://archive.org/details/gd1988-03-27.141213.sbd.miller.flac2496 Another just released ultra-matrix master.
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though the possibility of returned tapes must stay DL's hand in that regard. At least from '69 onwards. But '68? It's nearly inconceivable that tapes from '68 sit undiscovered somewhere. At least, I've never heard of a '68 tape 'discovery' or 'return.' A two-disc set of partials from '68? Gawd, brilliant idea. DaP 26 is due in April, right? So the window for an Anthem or box announcement is closing.
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I bet you are correct, HF.. but if there were to be a few undiscovered ones, they would likely come via the Owsley Foundation or another Owsley source. Keep in mind.. the last reel or two from Dave's Picks 24 (8/25/72 BCT) were Owsley recorded and did not circulate prior to the release, so who knows.. Maybe there was a poorly labeled box in the tapes Bear held on to. Here's to hope, Without Love In The Dream.. right? Also, I bet there are some snippets that just never fit into other offerings. ..and weren't those 8 tracks that became the 68 Road Trips found just prior to that release. Did they release them all?
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Great link. I downloaded that bad boy right away! They seem to be up on the archive. I only hit one song, one show, real quick, but it was a nice recording. I will be going back to that well. But just for the sake of argument, I didn't know the Scooby tune, I was too old when the Scooby came out and never watched. The guitar work was nice and you can NEVER go wrong with a B3!
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I'm going with Alive II. The fourth album side was new studio tracks. I can see how some can't get past the theatrics and makeup, but the music is well-crafted power pop/melodic hard rock in the vein of Cheap Trick with a heavy Beatles influence. Still don't hear it? No worries here. I can't get into Phish. Gene Simmons bass lines are underrated. Granted, the over-the-topness and marketing blitz of this band are a bit much at times, but as a part of the soundtrack of my youth I will always have a soft spot for this music. \m/
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Dennis - Glad you like. The "B3 Kings" have a ton of great stuff on Archive.org. The band members rotate a bit based on the core members' touring schedules with J. Geils/Roomful of Blues and all the other bands they participate in. Look for Archive.org recordings that include not only Johnny Trama (the one guy who never rotates out) but also Jeff Lockhart (Berklee Music professor, Beyoncé, Dido) or Duke Levine (J. Geils, Mary Chapin Carpenter) who are stunning guitarists with impressive resumés if you Google them. Johnny also plays in a Rhode Island-based band called "The Silks" with blues singer/guitar virtuoso Tyler-James Kelly: /var/folders/d0/3h5ktk414r3gh3zb7ygkr8wc0000gn/T/com.apple.iChat/Messages/Transfers/IMG_1732.mov (You may have to cut/paste that address into the browser - it's worth it - the guys picking is stunning and kinda reminiscent of the western swing band "Jimmie Rivers and the Cherokees", which we have discussed.) Bostonians - Johnny Trama and the B3 Kings play TONIGHT (and most every Tuesday) 10pm-1am at the Plough and Stars in Cambridge - a great music venue that's basically a small bar with the band in the corner. I'll probably be there - They usually have one of the guys mentioned above sit in... amazing that you can just walk in off the street and sit next to the most accomplished guitarists in New England as they perform. I love Boston.
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Another Johnny Trama project in the Boston area is Dub Apocalypse. Tommy Benedetti and Van Martin play in this group and they do some pretty sweet reggae jamming. These shows are also on Archive. org. And of course, Benedetti and Martin have sat in numerous times with my favorite Boston area band, Club D'elf. I have never checked out the B3 Kings, but i certainly will now. Any bands with these guys are going to be great.
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Just the leaves. As the president of Colombia said recently: La hoja de coca no es droga... As for '68 snippets, returns, etc., I'm totally Sgt. Schultz on that. As for an announcement on Anthem reissue/'68 show or a box, we at least have a fresh Bolo sighting to tweak us. I'd go back to my original reasoning: that with Anthem/'68 show being released and DaP 26 being late '71, and the ABCD Enterprises focus for 18 months on '77-'78, they gotta branch out. My guess remains a small box, even (3) shows, from '76 (more ABCD) or Summer '73, the latter being the biggest gap in the official output at this point. (And with the '78 box still not sold-out, they might go with the sure-sales period of early '70s.) But I'm here, and Dave's in charge of the vault, so I can speculate all day long -- and sometimes do. That said, in hometown news, there's going to be a 50th anniversary release of Electric Ladyland with alts and outtakes, according to Janie Hendrix in a recent interview. After that, a Maui '70 documentary with full-on music soundtrack.
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What a wild story that is.. Here's a short snippet. https://belhistory.weebly.com/maui.html The whole story is much more involved and at times hard to believe, but true. Go for one of the books: https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Sunshine-Brotherhood-Eternal-Spread/dp/03… or the more detailed, probably better read https://www.amazon.com/Brotherhood-Eternal-Love-Flower-Counterculture/d… and lastly a brief discussion on youtube.
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Hope it's a good box set. An elderly man is taking his grandson on a tour of his farm. They pause under a large oak tree and the old man says "Under this tree I made love for the first time. And under that tree over there her mother sat and watched the whole thing!" The incredulous grandson says "Holy cow! What did she say?" "Baaa!"
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What did the sheep say to the redneck as he walked by... Daaaa-dddd. (sorry..) I was at a Hot Tuna show a few years ago and Jorma told us his own WV sheep joke at the beginning of Good Shepherd. I can't find any reference to it on line, but he told us it was a true story from an Athens Ohio native (just across the Ohio river from WV). Come on Dave.. Don't make us beg. It's already getting ugly.
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Downhill From Here.
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I listened to the vinyl copy of this for the first time today-wow! Like the other vinyl albums I have bought by The Dead recently, it has an incredible sound. Someone said on here last week that Phil's bass playing stands out on this set. Does it ever! Probably the loudest instrument in the mix. It sounds superb on the opening track Bertha-but he is ever present on all 4 sides, and all 4 are immaculate. It occurred to me listening, that in most of the 72 shows I have heard from this year, which have been from from March and April, I have focussed on different musicians at different times-sometimes Keith, sometimes Bob, usually Jerry..but not Phil so much. Try ignoring him on this one!
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Talking of other bands on here...there seem to have been a few live Cream cds released recently. I got one called Live In Detroit, which is an FM recording from Detroit's Grande Ballroom 15th October 1967. The sound isn't up to the standard of the releases that have been available for decades-its an FM recording at the end of the day-but its not bad. And the music is incredible. Cream had a massive impact in the 60s, and tend to be overlooked a bit now. They apparently had a profound effect on the West Coast. Jefferson Airplane souped up their sound accordingly after having seen them. And, according to Rock Skully, Jerry was so impressed that he got Rock to sack Pigpen and Bob, so he could front a power trio of his own-Mickey and The Hartbeats. A disastrous decision, which was quickly remedied.
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Imagine what Annie Haslam might have brought to the Dead........................Even as a guest spot.......
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I'm with you man. There are some outstanding moments on this record. I'm a big Ace fan, so I really dig his guitar solos on just about every song. My favorite solos from Ace on it: the one at the end of Love Gun; the one in Dr. Love (not to mention the backing vocals from Paul, and the mean-ass hook, and Peter's drumming, which swings like mad); and of course the solo in Shock Me (the one in the middle of the song, I mean, not the unaccompanied Ace-only one at the end - although that is hot too). I could go on. Makin' Love and God of Thunder guitar solos from Ace. Will never forget the Re-union in '96 at MSG. Hands down the most raucous crowd from beginning to end. Drunks playing air-guitar and rocking out in those vestibules where the concourse meets the stairwells in each section.
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Sheep "jokes" are pretty much the only thing that'll interest me in hearing Bobby's yellow dog story, which ALWAYS sucked. Okay, now I'm scared to check the forum. Will I get an email notification if a box or Anthem/50 is announced? Of course, there's that question of what Walmart and Michael Jackson had in common: boys pants, half off.................... Aaaaaauuuuuuugggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My 93 year-old Grandmother passed today. It was not unexpected and I am not looking for sympathy; but I honor her now by playing Nat King Cole, her favorite. Later we will have a swig and go pour some brandy on the curb. Her favorite drink; some kind of old (Irish?) tradition. -- As far as Ace Frehley, man, that cool vibrato and how Ace just kind of hung out during his solos... Ace was the coolest member of KISS and just drips with coolness. I found an Ace shirt online, shipped from Germany, with his portrait from the solo album on front. It gets comments no matter where I wear it. Maybe I should rock it at Dead & Co. this summer. I'll agree that 1996 reunion show was a hoot! We were only about 20 rows back on Ace's side of the stage. Unforgettable, even if much of what's transpired since then is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3g-0yalV0 Why? No one can say. Edit: Led - I'm sorry for your loss. We'll pour some out here in WV as well. I'm not well-spoken on Nat, but my favorite that I know was always his version of God Rest Ye Merry, Gentleman. Listening now for you guys.
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....I stumbled across these guys a couple of months ago. KISS would be proud. Playing here in Vegas soon as a matter of fact, but at $45 a ticket, I think they're biting off too much Quarter Pounder than they can chew....I mean, Galactic is playing The Brooklyn Bowl tonight and their tix are only $25. Wait! Galactic's playing!....shit.
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