Grateful Dead

Completely different entities.

Hi All: I just want to mention a few things here just to add my thoughts and such to many of the discussions. So in no particular order here it goes: I have received a few PMs over the past 6 months that I have missed. I mean I have not seen them them until much later after they were sent. My apologies to all for that. The Dave’s Picks series as been by in large awesome. Most of the releases are stellar shows. There have been a few that have not been too impressive, but again everyone has their tastes. I did go ahead and vote for a release of 6/10/73. I hope we get as Dave’s Picks or n another format, box set maybe. Would be pretty cool. A final note on DaP 25: I do feel at it is good, but not great, 1st set is little better in my opinion. However, I am so happy that this was released especially because they have released the previous 3 shows. It's nice to have them all like that. Shows, era and bootlegs- they all have merits and some downsides. I buy most releases and the ones I have missed I have gone back and bought through ebay and such. If I can't get it I either try to download it or I stream on the Archive. Also when someone recommends a show I have never heard , I head right over the Archive and give it a listen. The only stance I have on the whole discussion of years, eras, shows, bootlegs is that if everyone who uses the Archive donates to that site, it would be awesome. I have done so because as we all know there is just about every show that was ever recorded on there. I seems like they all have been uploaded on that site. It is treasure trove of Grateful Dead music among other things. Most important! I value all of you on these pages/comments/boards or whatever this is called. I love the knowledge, experience, and stories. I can do without some the outbreaks of battles that have gone on here. Just remember in the end, we are all crazy and lucky enough to have a passion for this band. Can you imagine what it would be like to have no one else to share this with? It wouldn’t be terrible but it certainly wouldn't be as good. To me that is all that matters. Good times!

One bootleg compact disc stands out for me:"Dead In Cornell" (SIRA CD 19 20 21) created by Silver Rarities from Italy. Produced 1994 on three discs. Very good sound, at least in my opinion. I bought it late '94 and one of the few I actually bought and still own. The artwork photos were lifted from the book, Playing In The Band by David Gans & Peter Simon, 1985 and the back tray card photo was taken from the Europe 72 3 LP booklet. It served me well until 16 February 2017 when dead.net announced the release of this show in a limited box set and a short time later a larger run without the hardback book, and the individual 5/8/77 "standalone" set. Headed for the recycling center soon, unless somebody wants it. PM me.

“I don’t think that means what you think it means.” The fact remains, bootlegging is actually illegal (FBI warning at the beginning of movies), but FM broadcasts may be classified differently in Europe, and Old Yeller is probably made in Europe. But promoting bootlegged material on the band’s own website is in bad taste.

The older I get and the more I know, the more I realize I don't know. Now, that's not an original thought, but it applies. One is more apt to draw lines of black and white when younger and less experienced with all life's little complications. Someone could be exposed to the dreaded Yellow Box of Doom (circa 1971), and be so moved as to become extra-rabid about classic Grateful Dead and begin to seek out and purchase authorized releases, merchandise, concert tickets, etc. It all adds to the overall fan experience. I've searched online late night and hooked up on a couple of these random boxes, and it's fun and exciting to get new, kind of rare stuff. "How will it sound?" There's a little bit of the mystery there. With a Dave's pick, you know you're going to get gold. Also, I bought mine used at an independent mom-and-pop record store, so after the initial bootlegger and manufacturer got theirs, my local guy got his. And, I bought another copy of Dick's Picks 12 (new, unopened!) to compensate for a scratched disc when I was there.

....right! Dead.net grudges. I hear ya Seth. Hopefully, the inbox survey is the first brick in the yellow brick road to update this site. It's High Time that the Golden Road gets smoothed out. It's 2018 folks!!!

Dissident80 hits it with this little bit amidst a long post:"people who don't want to stream or trade or download". We have seen over the years on these boards that such people exist (I am NOT one). With that in mind, pointing out the box's existence IS doing a service. The various points of indignation about pointing out the box's existence all have legitimacy, but also have loopholes. There doesn't seem to me to be any reason that all these comments can't peacefully co-exist, but reason and emotion don't mix well... Hope no-one is gonna hold grudges over this fracas. In my experience, doing so really diminishes the pleasure one can find here. My own collection of DeadNet grudges has had that effect on me.

I wasn't responding, or implying anything to/about you specifically, I was addressing multiple peoples comments. I just repeated my opinion pretty much exactly as it was back when that box was 1st released. I'd say its even easier to replicate(besides the cardboard, which as I stated, is basically what one is paying for with the bootleg) than I made it out to be as the Doc already offered the whole set for free and discogs has all the art/scans. I also fail to see how my opinion that saying "hey check out this unauthorized bootleg I bought, its great for all these reasons, and you can find it here for $" on the Dead's official site is inappropriate" implies much consternation or hostility on my behalf, as I feel this is common sense. Me saying that the action is strange, isn't necessarily an attack on anybody in particular, and that certainly was not how I intended it. Finally Jerry was not ok with people selling concert recordings, or even vinyl bootlegs heres video of Jerry (he actually addresses a few of the points discussed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QBJ8pBdpao . skip to around 29minutes in.

I challenge you to dual.

Yep.. been to NIH. When are you there, shoot me a PM on the details..