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    marye
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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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  • Anonymous (not verified)
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    Think Marye has it right
    What can you do? The amount of freedom that is allowed is important, perhaps more so than the few who are misbehaving. I think Marye strikes a good balance in a difficult situation. Saying that people should only PM one another because of this is an overreaction. Can't stand the heat? Stay out of the chatroom! (Thanks to all kind heads who have tried to lift the vibe there)
  • johnman
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    i believe you're right buddy,......i can only hope i'm not considered part of that group.......though i sure feel like it, sometimes....
  • buddy plant
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    As far as I remember...
    ... we NEVER used to have these issues (chat room misbehavior, not the software kind) in the chat room. What ever happened? I believe the chat room's demise was the discovery, by a certain group of unpleasant, RUDE people, of our peaceful little place on the inet. So what to do? Well, many of us have decided to stay away, we still PM each other from time to time, but I look at it much the same way as the scene at GD shows after the summer of 1987: There's not a damn thing that can be done to fix it. So I guess if ya don't like it, don't use it.
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    chat room misbehavior, not the software kind
    mod hat on So folks, as you may have noticed I am not inclined to micromanage life in the chat room. There are several reasons for this, but certainly tops on my list would be the fact that, in my experience, it doesn't work. From time to time I get complaints that this person or that is doing something in the chat room that's making someone else unhappy. Or, even better, two people complaining to me about each other. And let's just say that in many cases serious lines have been crossed, and in many cases the heat of the moment was involved, and throwing stones/glass houses/etc. However, let's just say that harassing and abusing one's fellow participants in the chat room, whether by threatening them, serving up hate speech against some group present or absent, showering people with profanity, or otherwise creating a hostile atmosphere, is behavior that puts one on thin ice. Spammers aside, I very, very rarely block people or delete their accounts. I think it's a very extreme step. Nonetheless, making life a misery for other people hereabouts on a sufficiently regular basis to get noticed definitely improves one's odds of being in this select group, to which I would infinitely prefer not to add at all. Thank you and mod hat off. ME
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    Chat Room Nerds Unite.....
    I thought it was all about fun, games, stories & music in the cr.....? Oh, yeh & "whole lotta love"
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    OK !
    thanks CC critter and CosmicBadger , and you Lamagonzo , and Kristen 10 , you had interesting insights, When GD sang Cassidy , it brought a Krishna Dance, and magik blessings around. The right sounds on whatever could maybe still work wonders ! Maybe , or maybe not anymore ...Time will tell ...
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    man i thought we had got past this
    PPL go in forums and chat. its not one or the other. someones not listening on chat. i have foind alot of love on chat. and i see PPl here slamming PPL on chat for things they have done there selves. maybe could say its easy to judge PPl here without someone standing up to u like on chat. we have all worked there to get a posative vibe going now. not easy but it is what we work 4. can u say that about other chats? we r everywhere and to call us drunks ect... have u been to a greatful dead concert??? lmao! love u all no matter where u post lol PEACE (~);-)
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    to my mind
    it's kind of like ugly parking lot scenes vs. benign ones. CC Joe posted a great tale of Old School Deadheadism a couple years back that's quite resonant with all this. If you cannot lead the bad actors by example, or use white corpuscle effect on them, just walk away and leave them spewing their bad vibes. As noted above, they thrive on your energy.
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    good discussion, folks
    you can't control it. How you deal with it is up to you.
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    After reading some of these posts, I tend to agree with alot that is said, and alot that is implied, and some not so much. One that I'm sure of through being a "chat room nerd" that we are held accountable! Of course there is no "moderator" as there should not be...we as a community should moderate ourselves. Of course we are going to get the slammers, bashers, haters, and non-good lovin people in there, it's the human race. I do know that we as a whole, the good hearted-kind people in this space we call Cyber, have told the offenders flat out to cut it out. After frequenting this place for alot of years, I do know one thing, there is LOVE and KIND people in there....after so long, you can just pick them out. When I say accountability, we have to be able to govern ourselves, and we do...it's a non-contrallable environment, except for the fact that YOU as a person have the power to control your involvement. In fact this reminds me of John Perry Barlow's battles over the interenet he's had since it all began with the EFF.... When you get involved, get involved with your heart and kindness. Negativity, has no place in our community. I love the Grateful Dead....I am not perfect....BUT, I know that my heart is in the right place and that others hear on Dead.net share that heart! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed did bent mylimb play and stickey start and bom constantly. Heard they played a few times?
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When's your mom throwin out those old unwanted dead tapes?
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Johnman, you fergot Krill Hoistman 'n' Crowbar Grunter....
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I guess I did....and Macky Hort.....
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Blessings and Prayers.To the Soldiers The Warriors PeaceMakers Not The Governments that put them there the Men/Women And there Families far to many have been effected on all sides. No war Is worth the Damage to humans everywhere And Blessings to All Lost In This Silly Drug War Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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Well i guess the folks who operate this site don't want the chatroom anymore.I am very disappointed as i met some great friends in there and visited this site almost everyday to see them.I am going to try and continue on without it,but as a disabled and fairly homebound deadhead,i just want everyone i met there to know my life was better with you all in it.The time i spent there everyday was a blessing to me and i love all of you very much.Thank you for all you did to bring me happiness and joy while we had the chance to be together.The place will be sorely missed by this deadhead.I wish you all the peace,love happiness and prosperity that life can offer.Now i will fly up into the sky and disappear into a hole in the smog like the lorax.
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while I can't say what's ultimately on the minds of the higher-ups, I think it's fairly obvious that the finite technical resources have been rather consumed with the 30 Days of Dead and that's likely to continue for the next couple of weeks. When I have anything more specific to report I will.
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your post has me a wee bit worried.********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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and the absence of the chat room should not mean that people don't find another way to stay in touch. In my old age I've seen a lot of online gathering places come and go, and it's just a practical reality to have a disaster plan--I mean, if Gagalive could vanish with no warning in a heartbeat... Being on the Internet is like living in earthquake country. You need a disaster plan. All of which is not to say that we're unaware or unappreciative of the issue, or that we're not planning to address it, but people need to figure out ways to stay in touch with each other also!
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http://www.savagetek.com/dnet/ <<< sweethearted savge has made a dead chat 4 us during this time os the deadnetchat darkages :P chat ppl go there. more at nite than day. so show up and say hey to eacher like we use to. PEACE (~);-)
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the abcents of deadnet chat does mean alot to ppl. its been there for how long?? only true site where we can and have met. hope u guys figure it out cause alot miss it :)
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I know before you used to be able to make a chat room.With some Hosts/Servers. What about a ICQ. And how much could it cost?? Be proactive make your own. When did us freaks of society wait to be told where to go and when :)? Too much knowledge in this venue not to come up with a answer, Peace and Blessings to all. Smiley dave Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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Just did a search for cost of a chat room on web.Many free and cheap choices. The dyslexia is rampant this am so ill leave the reading to others. Peas Smiley D Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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Ok i basically found out that all ya need is a web site.And then post the chat link. Ok everyone say no shit sherlock. hey news to me. We can get a go go daddy or other cheap hoster. Host Gator is A good one for 90 a year. Now can we get a link on deadnet to point them to the Chat room.?? I will even volunteer i now have a dictation thing for mac so my typing and data processing much quicker. I figure a basic DEAD CHAT ENTER and away it goes even if 100 people only want to do it 5 bucks should cover it for 3 yrs. Unless i do not understand which happens with Just being dense.. Good one and Blessings to all Smiley Dave. Ill buy a box and run it for everyone(box a computer just for chat and downloading music was planning on it any ways since. im not moving as soon as id like. might as swell. Some one contemplate this tell me my errors and what corrections. Please correct my ignorance, Smiley Dave Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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But thank God for the chatroom. Hope someday it comes back, I tend to agree that the tech side will be taken up with 30 days of the dead and then Christmas time orders...we prob won't see one till after January. And we do have the savage chatroom bail out that mona mentioned. Although, sometimes it's not populated. I miss you all a bunch, but I know I can always pick up a phone too. Love yas, and mwas. ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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are you ?
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johnman thought it was a spammer.....bur with an actual name, and picture....ahhh, probably spam....
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must be-considering she's been a member for only 8 hours, and the chatroom has been down for longer than that. ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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off to the bit bucket she goes...
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I feel like I may have won on the 23rd, but it's now going on 8:00 PM and it still says they haven't selected a winner. I'm just wondering if this is normal because I've never paid much attention to it until today, and to be honest I really would like to know who won.
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The intrepid Darren has set up a chat room for us. Please be aware that we're expecting it to be a bit buggy, so go ahead and put it through its paces and report any issues. Thank you Darren!
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Thanks Marye and intrepid Darren seems to work for me, but I am all alone so far!
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it may take a while to get back the momentum!
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Wohoooo chatroom♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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oh boy!!...I'm gonna try it right now....!!!
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a nice Christmas present from yall......thanks!
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marye anbd Darren. :)) hope your holidaze r bountiful with love! u sure have made mine! MWA!!!
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it sure is workin no one in though but probably early in the good old us of a !!!!!!!!!!
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Blessings and prayers to you and yours.Have a Great Holidaze. Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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Yes, there is a login to the chat room. However, you don't need to create a separate account, just use the same ID and password that you use to log in here. We had some problems with the old chat that people who were not logged in here and probably not members were getting in the chat room and causing trouble, so this is meant to solve that issue. And, with regard to another issue from the old chat, this new chat room comes with the ability to ignore people who annoy you. So if someone's acting up, just select their name in the list in the right column (who's in the chat room), click for the pulldown menu, and select Ignore. This should put an end to the playground squabbles as there is no need to engage with a squabbler. Thanks and chat on!
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remove the offending party from your view, while still allowing others to see their posts?
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No "censorship," but no audience either if everyone does this. Bad actors are attention junkies, and rendering them the proverbial tree falling in the forest when nobody hears it deprives them of the audience they crave. Freedom of speech does not mean anyone has to listen to you.
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just was curious on minor technical aspects, however, it does seem to leave open a few things...thanx marye!!
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if you're the kind of person who googles yourself to see what people are saying about you, this approach may have its failings. But in general few things shut bad actors up faster than the realization they're talking to a void.
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just tried to log in- to the chat room, using my screenname acount from here, and I guess My name is too long ? I could not log in, using my name and password from herer ? what to do ? oo ?? Happy Holidaze everybody ! Beth ( Liz ) Kempf Hey Now OO play on- KEEP LISTENING
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I have no idea. Let me know if the problem persists.
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into "The Lounge" once or twice, when had a second-but was lounging alone. Wrong time or wrong place, not sure which :)********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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probably wrong time...
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it's pretty slow here during the holidays...at least till the shows start!
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The route 420 sign is pictured through out the Dead scenario.Can someone tell me what it signifies other than the obvious? (U.S. Highway)?
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it is really getting to be an issue to be able to get on chat. been slow anough since the new one but hard when u invite ppl who really want to come on and its just a hassle so they give up. have to give weird unstructions like go and back and forth between to white page and the not found page to get the blue page. then if u get the whole blue page it wont post what u r typing. i know savage offered his services in helping to get a free chat that work very well. so i do hope u look into it. we DO like are chat and would love others to come and share the love. TY :)
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it thinks we have dirty minds :) Totall innocent words that we type, such as glasses or documentary get automatically changed into weird things.********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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I will pass this along. I know the tech guys have one or two other things on their plates these days.