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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • #2201
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    Hold on hendrixfreak....
    ....I need to make some more popcorn and mescaline.
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    Noon-ish is not the best time to catch a full-blown show.....
    My memory has clearly telescoped events, because I almost think I remember rolling over in my sleeping bag and, for breakfast, snorting a pile of 'chocolate' mescaline off one of those mini-cereal boxes. I definitely took some blotter. But even if we'd 'slept in,' it must of been 10-ish or something. Surely we'd had some water and a snack, probably provided by a merciful neighbor. We were still 15 and we looked like what we were: goddamm-near children! Ah, so I was saying, we dropped acid and snorted mescaline and fired up the pipe with Numero Uno and, hey, is that freakin' Jerry on stage? Wait, Bobby. Phil. Bill. The piano guy. Jer kept dipping his cigarette into a brass ashtray and, when he re-lit it, it flared up. I didn't hit the blow til '75 but later, I thought, freebase. I hope someone can clarify this, but I think I recall the band starting just a bit after NOON(!). As far as I was concerned at the time, they fucking rocked the place for hours. I do recall, as I often feel, feeling goofy about a camera while tripping. But I managed to snap off three shots, of which two survive, which catch the three guitarists blasting away on Playing in the Band, then turning towards each other to converse more intimately, finally arriving in a tight circle and sending tides of sound across the crowd. I think this was the time I experienced Phil's bass as physical, purple pulses in my chest and the realization that vibrations, rather than corporeal reality, were at the heart of existence. I clearly remember the gospel treatment at the end of He's Gone and at the end of Sugar Mag, Weir thrust his arm skyward for stop time, ran back to his amps, downed the rest of a Heineken and raced back to the mic for the coda. Still, I was 15, down front at one of the biggest gatherings of humans in history. I did look back over the crowd, but, as usual, there wasn't much profit in looking back. Not with the Grateful Dead killing it in front of me.
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    The Allmans rocked big time. They'd slayed us at RFK after the Dead when, exhausted and dehydrated, we had retreated to the shaded overhang of RFK and been simply psychedelically rolled over by the ABB. They smoked the Dead that day. Back to the Soundcheck. I got up and hiked around the scene while it was still afternoon. A very loose scene with lots of elbow room, cool air, breathing. I returned to our space, easily located, for The Band. It was nearly sunset when the Grateful Dead took the stage. We had all the room we needed. I started the soundcheck boogie-ing upright, shakin it to the rock 'n roll. I had snorted some mescaline and taken maybe a half tab of the blotter. Everyone knew this was unprecedented in GD history. Here we were, groovin' on a cool pine forest evening, high but not pressed and our favorite band was blasting away on the finest sound system we'd ever heard. I do not recall individual songs, just the transition between comprehensible songs and jams that had us smiling for reasons we knew not. [Beautiful Jam from So Many Roads is blasting in the background as I write these words.] I do clearly recall the feeling of complete ease as I nestled down into my sleeping bag, head on cool gallon jug, looking up at the band just jamming away. We rode it out after the band departed and the next thing we knew, it was morning and the crowd was bustling, hustling, and by noon it was show time all over again.
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    Hendrixfreak
    I hope you are writing these in a word processing program and saving them.You probably should combine your memories and pictures and put it out on the internets where it will hopefully be forever preserved. Maybe upload the final version to the archive someday.
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    Any headphone listeners out there? Or maybe you don't need them. I find the bass on this GSTL recording overwhelming. Bertha and Help On the Way are good places to start. I don't get the same thing with the SB I have if this show. I think Jeff Norman boosted it somehow. Anyone else notice it? Garyfarseer - what kind of medicine?
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    The greatest missed show on Earth
    Long story shrunk to size... We had to get home on 10 June 1973 because we were exhausted, dehydrated, broke, without tickets, food, water, anything, so we thumbed back and tried to blend into humanity. I was 15. I lived with my parents, of course, and they needed to see some evidence that I was alive. They never even said a word about my setting out for a multi=day excursion in jeans and a t-shirt. We just did it. We heard the 10 June show was smokin' and we were pissed. We were NOT going to be caught short like that again. No effin' way. So when the news broke of a show with all three of the greatest rock bands of that time -- the Grateful Dead, the Allman Brothers and The Band -- we were on it like white on rice. Tickets cost $10.50? We had 'em. And we'd just seen the Allmans at Madison Square Garden in, May? I smuggled in a bong. A young cop caught me. An older cop said, "Let him go. It's a bong. Don't worry about it." Jesus, this whole law enforcement thing was confusing! But my view was broadening... Late July 1973. The older brother of a hot schoolmate of ours was driving to Watkins Glen. We signed on. Me, Mark L, David W, and a few others. We brought our backpacks. We had a little food. A shit-ton of Numero Uno. No alcohol. I had a sheet of blotter. Someone's adept use of the map enabled us to skirt around the worst of the traffic and we actually accessed the grounds in fine fashion, probably 12 hrs ahead of the hoo-ska-boo that eventually developed. The van's inhabitants split into units and we never saw our driver-host again, until a week later, just before the 31 July - 1 August shows back at Roosevelt Stadium. (Biggies, waiting for release...) So we hike over to the "gate," passing food trucks that specialized in big scoops of weed. We snickered, fully equipped. We were still 15. We entered the gates around midday and for some reason no one took my ticket, so I immediately doubled back to the chain link fence and passed my whole ticket to a have-not. Instinct, communal instinct. Later, my parents said that friends of theirs in Europe had seen footage that included my entrance into the concert site. The stage was perhaps 2/3 of a mile away. As we walked down the gently sloping hill towards the stage it was obvious we were a bit early. In earlier shows we were leery of getting too close because of the physical crush, the volume and the collective high that sometimes ... got a bit hairy. But fresh off missing 10 June, we marched down and claimed a beautiful space about 20 yards from the stage, just a bit left of center. On our way, we'd grabbed a few one-gallon water jugs that were set out free by Bill Graham in response to the scene at RFK in DC 6 weeks earlier. I found myself high on mescaline, laying on my sleeping bag with my head resting on a cool one-gallon jug of potable water and passing a doobie when the crowd sputtered and roared. It was late afternoon and the Allman Brothers had just taken the stage.
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    Throughout the fall of 1972 and through the winter-spring of 1973 I had ingested numerous psychedelics, including the wonderful agent known as mescaline and naturally a few substantial doses of the Lady Herself. At one point, with my buddy Moose, we were sitting atop a van-sized boulder in a 2,000 acre wooded preserve near home and we focused on the visual margin between the rock beneath us and the ground in the background and felt that we had lifted the boulder upon which we sat perhaps several inches into the air, then lowered it again to its natural resting place. But I digress... June 1973 and me and David W are hitching to RFK in DC about 200 miles away for the 9-10 June 1973 shows. It's summer. So obviously we go in t-shirts, jeans, sneakers, with a ticket and few single dollars/dead presidents in my pocket. Next to the sheet of oval 4-way blotter. A little smokum in the sock, in case we got stopped. Look, we're 15, okay? 16 was months away. We were just up for adventure, loud rock 'n roll and, um, a closer look at the scene. I remember that some of the serious traveling hippies with LSD-dead eyes were there selling pipes, but also passing them around. We had long hair but we were little kids! These folks looked 50 but were probably 20, i.e., impossibly old, grizzled and of unknown origin. But no one actually bothered us, nor was there any attention. Everyone treated us as adults. So we slept on the ground on the grassy parts outside the stadium that night. No water, no food, no equipment. The next day, temperatures climbed towards 100. We were smoking a joint by the grate that blocked one entrance and a black cop motioned us over. We approached cautiously. "Hand me some of that, will you?" he asked. "WHAAAT???" was our initial reaction, having already experienced the pleasure of being cuffed and harassed by the cops for having a beer in the park. Turned out, cops can be cool, too. We burned two with the cat and we bid each other a good day. He was clearly amused by the scene, but in a groovy way. This was 1973 and racism and violence over the Vietnam War made longhairs outcasts, just like minorities of every stripe, then and now. Short story long, me and David split a 4-way and the Dead played that afternoon, opening for the ABB that night. The lines for water were long. We survived on The Lady, a little water and some "Numero Uno" substance we thought was hash but turned out to be opium. Worked for us that day, though, the heat was excruciating and I'm sure a lot of folks needed help in the heat. I got up close for Chinacat at the end of the first set. I was mesmerized. Bobby played a Gibson SG, which in my mind meant "bass guitar." Phil was playing a big possibly semi-hollowbody bass that said to my untutored eyes, "rhythm guitar." But I was already a huge Phil fan (being a Jer fan was too obvious) and this had me confused. At some point some idiot hurled a lit M-80 onto the stage (June 9, right? obviously in close proximity to July 4??) and it rolled up to Jer. In that day, he had a stage mannerism of sort of shuffling in place and I saw him move his right foot forward in perfect time and using the tip of his cowboy boot sent the live M-80 back out over the crowd. I don't even recall hearing it explode. The music was pretty loud.
  • #2208
    icecrmcnkd
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    Nice warmup HF
    Patiently waiting for the grand finale....
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    Backstory and launch....
    The briefest of backstories: Six years old in 1964, persuaded my mom to buy me a Beatles LP at the checkout counter of the local discount store. Played it on monaural phonograph with one 12" speaker output. Rocked as child. 13 years old in 1970, convince mom to drive me and a friend to a Chambers Bros concert. We dug the music but were too young for 'action.' 15 years old, summer of '72, catch The Byrds and New York Rock 'n Roll Ensemble at college outside Saugerties NY where The Band rec'd Big Pink five years earlier. We drove by Big Pink. (Still Pink.) We were 15. (An older brother was actually driving...) Since 1971, been spinning American Beauty and Skull & Roses LPs on the same phonograph as in 1964, only now it's in the basement where our ping-pong table and hang-out couch are located. 19 Sept 1972, I jump in a car full of older heads with an ounce of hash in my pocket, 33 days after my 15th birthday, and we proceed to the Roosevelt Stadium in lovely Jersey City, New Jersey, and catch my first Grateful Dead show. I had already been 'experienced,' but did not drop at this show; too chaotic, large crowd, determined to survive and catch my ride home. I listened for familiar songs, jams, anything -- nothing! Everything was different. Records, shme-cords. This scene was crazy. Maybe 10,000 people screamin' high groovin', freakin', dancin', gyratin', handing you things you knew best to pass along... I was alone in the giant crowd with the music louder but sweeter than anything I'd ever heard before. The music rocked, I just couldn't grab onto a big Jerry jabbin' guitar riff that would remind me of Skull & Roses. Obviously, this was no American Beauty. As Jer once said, recording in a studio is like building a ship in a bottle. Playing live is like being on the ocean in an open rowboat. And that's kinda how I felt -- out there, surfin', knew I'd have to get home ... 3 hours into the show, I do remember saying to myself, "Well, all righty then, damn good show, YOU CAN STOP PLAYING ANYTIME, I'M GOOD. GOTTA GET SOME REST... MUST SNAG RIDE HOME..." Part II, coming ...
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    The photos of the stage show how high it was. Need safety railings to keep the musicians from falling off.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Tue, 08/07/2018 - 11:00

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You gotta' check 10-18-78! Set closer, and ends in a complete meltdown...
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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/07/2018 - 11:13

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That observation caught my attention-and it seems to have been true. The Dead seemed to take their audience with them through all their stylistic changes. It surprised me, when I first started listening to them. The difference between "Live Dead" and "Working Mans Dead " is massive-even allowing for the fact that the former is obviously live. But "Skull and Roses" is also completely different from "Live Dead", and I used to wonder if they lost and gained fans during these transformations. They probably attracted a lot of new, less radical fans after 1970, with their more country flavoured/traditional music-maybe a lot of their original fans faded away at that point-but this isn't reflected in anything I have ever read. Going on into the 70s, "Blues For Allah" again seems to have no connection to anything they released earlier. The only other person I know of who radically changed their sound and approach to such an extent in the 70s was David Bowie. Phil head-I'd pull the trigger... this second! I don't know how many are left, but this looks like one of the all time not to be missed releases.
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....a man sees an attractive woman sitting alone at the next table. Suddenly, she sneezes, and a glass eye comes flying out of her eye socket. It hurls by the man, and he snatches it from the air and hands it back to her. "This is so embarrassing," the woman says, and she pops her eye back in place. "I'm sorry to have disturbed you. Let me buy dinner to make it up to you. May I join you?" He nods. The woman is a stimulating conversationalist, stunningly pretty, and the man finds they have a lot in common. He gets her phone number and asks, "You are the most charming woman I've ever encountered. Are you this nice to every guy you meet?" "No," she replies. "You just happened to catch my eye."
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Submitted by Hippychic on Tue, 08/07/2018 - 17:43

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Nice meeting all you. I am headed out next week to make it big overseas. I was not expecting to go so soon, but opportunity is knocking. This really puts a left hand monkey wrench into receiving my box set on time :(I read the forums here for a long time before I joined the discussions and will try to keep up. I will hopefully have a moment now and then to say hello in the not too distant future. But it is goodbye for now there's much to do! Be nice to each other boys. Au revoir! Edit I tried making this my pic but it would not take https://britelitetribe.com/products/be-nice
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Submitted by nitecat on Tue, 08/07/2018 - 20:53

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...until shipment. I'm ready right now! hippychick, fare thee well, you will be missed. Please check in and tell your tales from England. What fun!
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Submitted by alvarhanso on Tue, 08/07/2018 - 20:54

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And best of luck in the UK! Your treasure chest will await your return. For those who loved the Other One> Me & My Uncle> Other One with M&MU Jam in the second half on DaP 26, I was listening to the 2015 bonus disc that came from the Academy of Music shows, and while I love the main Pick's insanely timed M&MU> Other One segue, I hadn't listened to the bonus disc version in a long while. I did so this evening and was pleasantly surprised to hear a M&MU Jam in that Other One, it lasts about a minute from around 7:45 in or so, and instead of taking it into full cowboy territory it peters out after a bit, and Jerry starts the Other One riff on single notes, with Phil picking it up after a bar. I know there must be other Other Ones like that, I failed to notice is 3 years ago (which may be when I last listened), but that one will be added to my regular Other Ones. Not too dissonant and out there. After enjoying the ensuing Wharf Rat, I switched over to the Thelma bonus disc. That Dark Star is very nice. It gets dissonant and into feedback territory, but still very cool. Which reminds me, did we ever get confirmation from Dave that that was the Dark Star with "very unusual Phil activity" mentioned in the Dave's 6 booklet as a recently returned show?
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Jeff those were much better quality then what I had, thanks.
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Submitted by Thin on Wed, 08/08/2018 - 11:36

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Dark Star - re: Vedder, You wrote: "The worst part is he's another douche who doesn't bother to present an equal representation of each side". You really expect a rock star who sometimes gets political to present equal representation??? "Let me invite an audience member who disagrees with me and is giving me the finger to come up and debate this with me... 'Have a seat on the couch! Where ya from???'". While I agree Eddie Vedder should focus on the music, I believe we should as well. Hippychic - you're in luck! I heard the internet FINALLY made it Europe last month, so you can likely still check in and join the fray to enjoy snarky posts like this one. ;) Seriously, good luck in Europe and thanks for adding a feminine touch to this board.
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Submitted by simonrob on Wed, 08/08/2018 - 10:45

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The internet has NOT made it to Europe yet. We still communicate with the "Albanian telephone", you know, the one where the two cans are connected by a thin rope and the trick is to keep it taut. Easier said than done on International calls. Success in the UK, Hippychic.
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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 08/08/2018 - 20:31

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Good luck Hippy Chick. We'll miss you and it won’t be the same without ya. I hear they have sat net, but you would need sum-a-dat der eeeelectrizzzity ; )
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 08/08/2018 - 22:01

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....thought you were going to Mars Hotel.
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 06:38

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Good luck in the U.K. Plenty of great gigs coming up here in Autumn! If they've still got tickets King Crimson at the London Palladium should be a corker.
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Yes I like my satire to cover all bases like Family Guy. It's not such an unheard-of craft. Otherwise it's not really sad Tire it's just celebrity assholeism. And Eddie Vedder seemed surprised in the 20 documentary that people were offended by his actions. I guess that's what happens when you Adle your brain with wine and let the hate flow. I'm glad he's so mixed up that he can't write a good song anymore. Couldn't have happened to a nicer person. Now for you Thin. You're always so good at taking the 3rd party commentary from posters on dead.net. and levying your disapproval about the content of their remarks to the dead.net posters themselves. By 3rd party I mean, the celebrities of popular culture, the people that none of us know in person (musicians, artists, movies, actors etc). When you disagree with somebody's opinion regarding those 3rd party elements, you get personal, and you apply your disdain of the poster's opinion toward the poster themselves. You're just always lurking in the background ready to jump on somebody whose opinion you don't agree with so you can knock us down a few rungs. You make the conversation pivot from criticism of celebrities you don't know to obnoxious negative bullying of real people you do know here on dead.net. You should try more constructive criticism of the words being spoken by people and not the people themselves. You're part of the bullying problem. The laughable part is that you would never say this to me in person after getting to know me for an hour. You wouldn't have the balls after seeing me, I guarantee it. Try focusing on the topic points not the people here on dead net. Technically you're in violation of the rules and regulations, and you do it all the time, not just with me and this incident. Have a Grateful day.
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Submitted by simonrob on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 07:58

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Didn't see that one coming. Necessary?
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Submitted by simonrob on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 07:59

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Double post. Doh!
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Submitted by Thin on Fri, 08/10/2018 - 08:38

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Yup - I can be blunt and I apologize if I offend. But I DO have a pet-peeve about this board veering into silly political rhetoric. Skulltrip - you add a LOT of great insights here regiularly for which we all thank you. This is a kick ass board. But you have to admit that ya more than jumped the shark re: "Eddie Vedder oughta allow equal-time for opposing political arguments", no? When I read preachy, indignant political posts on a music board, my skin crawls. When it gets absurd, I call BS. But the irony in your comments is revealing: - You rip on Eddie Vedder for his "hate", then cheer the idea of him being brain damaged from a drinking problem to the point where he can't write anymore... And you call HIM a "hater?" Reveling in other peoples' physical/cognitive decline? Not sexy... I truly hope karma doesn't catch up with you on that one. - You ask I focus on words instead of making personal attacks. I DID focus only on your words. - You say I'm bullying, then say "You wouldn't have the balls [to say any of this to my face] after seeing me, I guarantee it." OK, NOW I see bullying...... - I'm lost re: "3rd party" comments... haven't been to a 3rd party since college. - Finally you say I'm in "violation of the rules and regulations" If so, I apologize. But... regulations??? Please clarify. Mary, if I'm out of line in any way or have broken any rules, please tell us all. I will apologize and retract appropriately. We respect your authority and any clarifications here might be helpful. Skulltrip, if you get this upset when people respond, political commentary on the internet may not be your thing. I promise to try to be more positive and not offend, and encourage you to do the same! Have a good one.
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Submitted by loudmouth on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 08:56

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I'm confused. Why is Eddie Vedder a jerk (or whatever he was called)? Because he has an opinion and a venue to express it? If so, I would be curious to hear what you think of Henry Rollin, Jello Biafra, or Ted Nugent. The political jibber-jabber between songs at concerts I have experienced of these three artist was much more expressive relative to a Pearl Jam show I've seen.
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Submitted by Thin on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 12:37

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vGuy - agreed! So my brother came to visit the last 2 days, and last night I put on 6/22/73 Birdsong (after we, er...., prepared heavily). He'd never heard it - big former Head (first show: Englishtown) but only has about 10 shows including Englishtown, and rarely listens. Anyway, after a few minutes he looked at me and marveled "This is amazing! What IS this?" I said "1973, baby! I've been telling you about this show for years and you kept saying 'whatever'". He's a Bobby fan and Bobby looms large on that one. He was floored. It's always so fun to blow people's minds with an amazing show and recording, seeing it through their eyes/ears. Similar to the joy of being a parent: passing something wonderful along and seeing them experience it for the first time.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 15:47

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I haven't bought Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia ice cream in a long while, actually I have stopped eating ice cream about 7 or 8 years ago, and don't even look for it in my food stores.After all, it is a special time of the year. In the last few days of July, I went out shopping for some Cherry Garcia ice cream, One of my grocery stores which I normally do my food shopping, Giant, did not have that flavor, nor my 2nd most popular, Valley Farm Market, an independent 2 location establishment, did not have that flavor either. A third chain, Weis didn't have that Cherry Garcia, either. A regional chain convience store, Wawa DID have the Cherry Garcia flavor. Plus, they have a promotion going - buy 2 and get a 3rd one free. Problem solved, and I got my Cherry Garcia fix AND my ice cream scream, too. Now playing: Playing In The Band 5/21/74 (NOT the official release) https://archive.org/details/gd1974-05-21.sonyecm18n.lee.miller.98822.sb…
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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 17:05

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Love good Deadhead stories like that, in which an off-hand fan gets re-infected via a great tune and certainly Bird Song can do that. It has a lightly bouncing, floating quality that reflect's the song name perfectly. BTW, Thin's been on these boards forever and I dig his style.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 17:16

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Mmmmm......Think I’ll rub some on my forehead. You won’t believe the clairvoyance that can be obtained by freezing your frontal lobe.....
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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 17:17

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So I found the 3rd pic I took of the Playing in the Band performance from 7-28-73 and the progression shows the guitarists facing forward after Weir's vocals, then turning toward each other, then in a tight jamming circle. Not great resolution, but I'm pretty close to the stage, audience left. An aerial shot of the crowd would reveal how damn close we were, especially for a few 15-year-olds with, um, drugs... I have 2 of 3 scanned and will get the third scanned as well. The purpose is to get these shots re-sized for posting, as 45th anniversaries don't come around very often (thank the gods). I had instructions on imgur's website re-sizing, but that site no longer offers the same features. And I looked at a couple others, but couldn't make sense of them. So... can anyone point me to a user-friendly website on re-sizing so I can post these pics here? I'd like to share them with everyone.
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Submitted by FloridaBobalooToo on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 17:37

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Regarding your Restaurant jokeWe have had a vote here in Bobalonia. AND We have selected yours as "The Joke of The Year". for 2018!!!!! Bravo my Good Man................
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 17:50

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What's the internet? Is it useful? I am having a hard time finding out exactly what it is and what it's good for. ..wait. Found something on this documentary called Family Guy that talks about it.
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Submitted by LedDed on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 18:55

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Saw my first Pearl Jam show at the Glenn Miller Ballroom at CU Boulder on the Ten tour. Tribe After Tribe opened; never heard from them again. I was packed near the front of the floor; after the show, I distinctly remember taking off my Doors T-shirt and wringing the sweat out of it like a disgusting sponge... it wasn't just my sweat! The Glenn Miller is very intimate and that place was a sauna. I got a rash all up my left arm for a couple days after that... ick. Saw them on Lollapalooza II, Vedder climbed all up the stage rigging quite high at least 30 feet. It was certainly very dangerous, impulsive, and crowd pleasing. He was young then. Another time at CU Vedder was drunk and accused of inciting a riot; they played two nights in the old basketball arena I forget the name. Balch Fieldhouse, maybe. I was at the first night, Urge Overkill opened (still love "Sister Havana.") The 2nd night was either cut short or canceled. A big stink about it in Boulder at the time. Then there was the infamous Red Rocks show where they sat down in a semi-circle for an acoustic set. I thought it cool, kind of Zeppelin-like in notion if not musically, but they felt it bombed and never did that again. Vs. is my favorite album of theirs. I don't really listen to much PJ any more but they earned their place in rock history and Letterman's HOF induction was hysterical. This is the group that, at the peak of their popularity, took on Ticketbastard. They did an album with Neil Young, Mirrorball that wasn't so well received commercially. They had a conscience as a band and decided to champion causes, like U2. And they kind of started to meander a bit musically, playing a lot of strummy-type shit and seemingly becoming indifferent to the audience that made them huge. That's a thing, you know, artists looking out at an ocean of drunken frat boys who've glommed onto their band for all the wrong reasons (Nirvana, The Grateful Dead, etc.) and just feeling disgusted. "Is this OUR audience? Is this who we are?" I don't have that problem but I wouldn't want it. Being a mega-millionaire, feeling guilty, wanting to try and change the world. It has to be a weight and it has dragged many good souls down unfortunately. Pearl Jam seem to have adjusted well to a middling level of popularity. They can do whatever they want and still have a pretty good audience for touring. I think Eddie Vedder went through his thing and has come out of it quite well. So what if he's a drunk? Bob Weir had a long battle with the bottle and not just that. Shit, these people are human. They're going to stumble now and then. I give them props for trying, for caring, for trying however feebly to use their platform to get young people to vote, to pay attention. It does matter. Jerry Garcia was genius at handling it all. Except for playing some benefits and championing the rainforest, he largely kept his hat out of the political ring. He saw the bigger picture. He numbed himself into oblivion. But he never seemed to be an asshole about it.
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Submitted by bolo24 on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 21:44

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It's Jerry Garcia Tribute Night at the SF Giants game this evening. Can't believe this was 25 years ago: Now THAT'S how you do it!
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Submitted by Alain on Fri, 08/10/2018 - 00:53

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Bolo24, Thank you for posting this. Very moving.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Fri, 08/10/2018 - 02:49

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Jerry Garcia, Bob Weir, & Vince Welnick singing The Star Spangled Banner - the US National Anthem, on April 12, 1993 for the San Francisco Giants home opener, is my favorite rendition by a popular music group or individual singer. It surpasses Whitney Houston's 1991 performance in my opinion. Thank you very much for posting this, Bolo24. Thank you. Yep, we ALL miss Jerry.
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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Fri, 08/10/2018 - 20:55

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I recently acquired a DVD of set 2 of this night. Bought some swag off Ebay and the seller threw it in. Its vintage 80s Magnavox VCR recording of a public access channel broadcast quality, but its a nice set. I would be remiss if i didn't offer to share it. PM me if you'd like a burned copy, or an electronic copy, or if its already on Youtube and hey 2002 called and your DVD player isn't under warranty anymore.
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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 08/11/2018 - 12:40

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...is the nearly 47 minute Playing In The Band from 5-21-74 just Jerry's way of keeping Donna offstage for the coda?
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Submitted by highthyme on Sat, 08/11/2018 - 20:57

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delaying gratification while methodically building the tension for release... Climax! OH, YEAH!
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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 08/12/2018 - 10:17

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Yee-doggy, That was our fifth of five on that tour. Home base in those days. My cousin used to have the whole show on VHS. Everyone probably knows that much of the second set was on Farm Aid, so it’s multi-camera. Probably taken from the Screen feeds? I believe most of second is on YouTube? But the first set was just one mostly static camera if my memory’s to be trusted, that was positioned on the right side of the SB platform. Well we pretty much always hung out in front of the sound board once we stopped going up front. So with the camera being where it was etc, you can totally see me and my buddy Phinster bopping around, turning to look at the camera and ahem, other nefarious activities.....all throughout that first set. We also get a bit of “air time” in the second set too. That tour is kinda a blur, Hell all of 86, 3 Hampton, and 3 Philly also, is one big blur.. Remeber there was some kind of fungus umungus that was disrupting the flux capacitor, leading to extreme cosmic distortions......for a long time I thought the 6/30/86 show was one of the best I ever saw? Of course the experiential elements are surely a factor; like for once getting great inside seats. That syncrynistic stuff with the boats and the music was intense! I do have a meh sounding tape, it is a good show, but alas it’s another example of the magic not shining through the medium.... But that 7/4 show was good too. I believe it was starting to get nasty out; swirling winds, clouding up, like we were going to get a nice little Lake Erie summer special, can’t remeber if it was raining? Any way, clearly rember at some appropriate lyric in Fire on the Mountain, or perhaps it was when JG’s solo was peaking? All of a sudden this tiny little shaft of sunlight burst through the weather and fell right on him especially his guitar, like as if it was all part of Candice’s light show. Whooooaaaaaa, that kinda stuff seemed to happen quite often......throw in the cosmic distortions and a yeah.......I still get shivers just thinking about some of that. One of the best or most intense of those moments, was perhaps the 6/30/95 Pittsburgh show with the “Rain” set. But I remember many. Of course who will forget the Santa Clara rainbow......
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Sun, 08/12/2018 - 13:55

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Brand New Cadillac-The Clash.
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Submitted by firstnamerichard on Sun, 08/12/2018 - 14:26

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Rush - Red BarchettaQueen - I'm in Love with my car Prince - Little Red Corvette Janis Joplin - Mercedes Benz War - Low Rider Been lurkin' on this site about a year now, finally registered, lol. Hi Everybody!
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Sun, 08/12/2018 - 16:40

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Cheap Thrills-The MOI
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Submitted by deadtony on Sun, 08/12/2018 - 17:49

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One piece at a time - Johnny Cash
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 08/12/2018 - 18:11

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I kinda prefer trains. Wish I was a headlight.... Thinking of the great railroads of the Pacific NW; The Northern Pacific, The Spokane, Portland and Seattle, the Union Pacific Railroad and of course.. The Great Northern (out of Cheyenne? or is that last part a stretch) (no offense to cars, great reference Dennis)
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Submitted by Gollum on Mon, 08/13/2018 - 02:42

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I also love trains. Two of my favorite train songs are by Hank Williams: "Pan American" and "California Zephyr".
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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Mon, 08/13/2018 - 04:02

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Hey good call on the 7-4-86 video. It is from Farm Aid -- there's a short title page right at the beginning that I missed the first time. It does have different camera angles, probably the same video you're thinking of. Seems like it might have been a TV broadcast ? It doesn't seem like its raining in the video, but it does look windy, like a squall was brewin'. If you or anyone else wants a copy for auld lang syne, let me know.
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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 08/13/2018 - 04:10

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If we are still doing cars, how about-(I Live For) Cars and Girls by The Dictators- a great track off "Go Girl Crazy".
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/13/2018 - 10:28

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For car songs, I'm partial to Rush's Red Barchetta. As for train songs.. I am a sucker for City of New Orleans
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