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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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  • JackstrawfromC…
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    Re-seed thread
    You have my vote! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
  • Exploratory Da…
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    There needs to be some
    There needs to be some organization. Wipe the slate clean. Do something. I agree. It's too much of a pain to go through every page. I'm too lazy to do it. I wonder if a filter can be set up to dump inactive vines (last post over a month or 2) into a separate folder. That would eliminate all those dang pages. The request for re-seeds is fine with me.
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    Sounds good
    Sounds good to me .
  • cosmicbadger
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    Let's just ask Marye to set up a Vine Reseed Request Forum and see how it goes. Can't do any harm. Can I suggest we try to keep it free of general chit chat and such so that the requests are easy to find? Someone posts a request. If someone can help they post to say so and also post on the relevant vine page and off we go again.
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    wow man ,
    Thank you Badger .. all those are mia vines ? crap man thats too much .. pomo1, I agree with you . it would be much easier that way . It is kinda a pain in the ass to go through every page and every posting on a vine to send mass pm`s to people requesting re-seeds . As far as re-seeding vines , I would be more then happy to re-seed however I don`t have a external dvd burner for my XP right now and lack of funds also makes it a little hard for me to re-seed anything ..not to mention the whole vista-xp thing .. But I will try to do what i can .. Thank you everybody for seeding and re-seeding !! This is a magical place for music !!
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    this will be the last time I propose a new topic for requests for re-seeds. Frankly, I don't understand why the idea has been shot down in the past, but it seems clear (to me at least) that a single spot where requests can be made and filled is necessary. Anybody who wants to have a vine revived can post and someone likely will re-seed. If there is no interest then no one will request a re-seed. This would also obviate the need to constantly go through single vines to see what needs to be re-seeded. Thanks again to everyone in the Vineyard. "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." Albert Einstein
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    Wow. Thank you.
    Wow. Thank you.
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    I will update the Vindex again in September some time. With the arrival of so many new megavines its going to get a lot bigger for sure. I was thinking of marking on the Vindex which Vines are dead, but as we know, pronouncing the death of a vine can be an unreliable business. MITD and others had done a lot of work to identify the status of all the vines but I am not sure where we are on that now. I really do not fancy going through every single vine in the vineyard to check its status. However a 'quick and dirty' way to do this is to go to the index for the Vineyard. Home » Forums » Dead Heads » Tapers>The Vineyard. This lists all the vines in order of the most recent post. If you go to the last pages of that you can see which vines have been inactive for a long time. This does not mean the vines are dead, they may just have reached the end of the line. And of course vines with more recent posts may actually be dead; someone might have just been asking recently where it is! But it does give you a very rough idea. Based on this, here are the 45 out of around 295 vines with no activity (MIA) since the end of May (3 months ago). 15-20% attrition in 2 years ain't too bad. Jerry Solo Acoustic 4-10-82 Capitol Theater, Passaic NJ Last Post May 29 2009 UK SOL Party Vine Last Post May 27 2009 Little Bit of Jerry Vine Last Post May 24 2009 Dead Heads for Obama 2/4/08 Vine Last Post May 23 2009 Basement Tapes #1 Vine Last Post May 23 2009 Eurovine #3 - US Branch Last Post May 21 2009 Field Trip '72 Vine Last Post May 14 2009 Warfield 10/9/80 Vine Last Post May 14 2009 ABB 9/28/04 Vine Last Post May 13 2009 Rochester, NY 9/2/80 Vine Last Post May 11 2009 - 8:34am Early Stuff Volume 1 Vine Last Post May 6 2009 Bobby & The Midnites Vine Last Post May 6 2009 Keith's First Few Months (KFFM) Vine Last Post May 6 2009 Carousel Ballroom 3/3/68 Vine Last Post May 5 2009 Winterland 12/27/77 Vine Last Post May 4 2009 Flac Me, Flac You Vine Last Post May 3 2009 Three from 1975 Vine Last Post Apr 29 2009 Tivoli '72 TV Vine Last Post Apr 29 2009 Progressive Rock Vine Last Post Apr 27 2009 Boise, ID 9/23/83 Vine Last Post Apr 27 2009 Orpheum Theater 7-12-76 Vine Last Post Apr 22 2009 Felt Forum 1971 Vine Last Post Apr 21 2009 Bigger Bit of Talking Heads Vine Last Post Apr 20 2009 The Sublime Vine Last Post Apr 18 2009 PKPotter Vine Last Post Apr 9 2009 Cleveland Convention Center 12/6/73 Vine Last Post Apr 5 2009 Phil Lesh Christmas 2007 Vine Last Post Mar 27 2009 Neil & Crazy Horse 2001 Eurotour Compilation Vine Last Post Mar 20 2009 Cream Filling #1 1973 Vine Last Post Mar 11 2009 Winterland 10/22/67 Vine Last Post Feb 23 2009 Phil Warfield Plus Eurovine Last Post Feb 20 2009 Gruga Halle 3/28/81 Vine Last Post Feb 18 2009 Eurovine #5 U.S. Branch Last Post Feb 18 2009 Warfield 2/17/82 Vine Last Post Feb 14 2009 Baton Rouge, LA Vine Last Post Feb 8 2009 Jerry Garcia/Greg Harrington Interview Vine Last Post Jan 15 2009 Merl Saunders Keep On Keepin' On Vine Last Post Jan 11 2009 Fall 79 Part One Vine Last Post Dec 27 2008 Eurovine #2 - US Branch Last post Dec 17 2008 Crazy Quilt, AKA Crazy Guilt, Vine Last post Nov 30 2008 Phil Eurovine #1 Last post Nov 12 2007 Winterland October 1978 Vine (From Egypt With Love) Suspended due to official release Egypt 1978 Vine Suspended due to official release Nassau Coliseum 1990 Vine Inactive because it is a duplicate Winterland '72-'73 Vine Suspended when Winterland 73 box set released 10/8-9/89 - Hampton Coliseum Vine Suspended when updated I will try to post this list every 3 months with the Vindex. It only takes 15 minutes to make and should become more reliable as time goes by. I have never been to the middle parts of the USA, but I think the landscapes have a lot in common with Central Asia; hot dry summers and hard cold winters. Deserts, mountains and steppe.
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    If the problems were straight up vista/xp incompatibility wouldn't it be more widespread, it seems more random in the vineyard unless the majority of us are using vista. I will try your suggestion oh yeah the next time I burn a DVD for a vine (which will be soon!!) :-) "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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    another Vista solution
    1. Insert a disc into your computer's CD or DVD drive. 2. In the dialog box that appears, click "Burn files to disc." 3. In the "Burn a disc" dialog box, type a name for your new disc. 4. Also in the "Burn a disc" dialog box, click "Change version." This will open the "Select a Live File System Version" dialog box, where you can choose a different formatting version for compatibility with different kinds of computers. Select Live File System version 1.5 or 1.02. Either one will work with Mac OS X Tiger (my computer), but earlier Macs and PCs may need version 1.02; it's pretty much universal. It's versions 2.01 and 2.5 that are the least compatible, and unfortunately Vista is set at 2.5 until you change it. 5. Click Next to prepare the disc. The "Mastered" workaround that stuman mentioned works too, as does switching to XP, which is what a lot of people have done (generally speaking; I don't know if anyone in the vineyard has switched). For Mac owners, I believe Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) and the new Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard), the latter of which ships this Friday, both accept the Live File System 2.5 DVDs (ie, the default version in Vista). But without upgrading my OS I have to fire up my PC laptop (XP, but it sees the Vista-created DVDs) and move the files over to a flash drive, which I then open on my Mac. Ain't technology grand?? :-) ~~~~~~~ "They say Cain caught Abel rolling loaded dice"
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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Thanks cosmicbadger.
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Hey there. Like zep I also truly appreciate all the kind heads that are seeding and vining here. I created a nice spreadsheet for my vines and will not let anyone down! Thanks again to all in the vineyard. You all rock! Joe (TheNuthatch)
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I discovered the "Vineyard" during the 30Days promo. Thanks to all the people who have contributed to this process and continue to do so. As I learn this process, please don't hesitate to send me PM with your comments or suggestions. I look forward to making my collection of shows available to others and picking up some great new music. Best Wishes to All and THANK YOU!! Jimmy
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Welcome Jimmy & Joe.
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Welcome Jimmy, Joe and others. Feel free to ask questions in this thread or even to PM me. In case you don't know, Trader's Little Helper is all you need for SHN/FLAC. Hope you stay for a long time!
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Nice job man thanks a lot!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Just checkin in to say hello to all my vineyard friends . Life has been kinda odd for me, I have been out. On the road since august . Been all over this beautifully land of ours. Have missed all you guys and wanted to let you all know I am still alive . And while I am here welcome aboard to the new folks ! Take care everyone , gotta get back trucking ah ha ah ha .. " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "
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thanks for dropping by. Happy travels!
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Hey Stu. Glad to hear from you. Say warm down there in FL.
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nice to see you. Don't be a stranger.
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Give us some details if you have time. Hope you are well!
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I must have been three sheets to the wind when I typed this....
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I doubt anyone would have noticed had you not brought attention to your post. Welcome back, STUMAN. Thanks for the update Badger. Has anyone heard from Trevor/Hippie Guy? Its been a while. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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I received a pm from him back on Aug 11 in response to a reseed and he said he doesnt really do the vine stuff anymore. Thats the last I've heard from him. Hope all is well
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I chatted with him about a month ago and he said he was just taking some time off, doing some other things.
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got my first delivery today (from m.austin)hope I'm doing this stuff right - seems easy enough just a drag and drop to get it copied -except for the audio CDs- standard ripping for them. thanks to dstache for the Trader's Little Helper tips! Now to the individual vines to update them. Thanks All
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Well I got back on this big road back in august and only been home for 7 days in October. Have not had any time off since then. I missed my wedding anniversary, the wife birthday and will miss the holidays. Just try'n to get ahead in life. It's rough out here but it feels good to be back on this big road. If anyone wants to follow my travels I am on Facebook,, send me a friend request. You all drive safe , hope you all have a safe and happy holiday season ! " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "
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back in the vineyard, sorry for the vines I delayed, am devoting much of this weekend to getting out the vines that have been sitting with me nice to see the music is still going strong peace If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Glad to see that you are back
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Most of my computer troubles are behind me now (fingers crossed). I hope everyone here has a happy and safe holiday. Its good to see so many people, new and old still using the vineyard.
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how have you all accomodated viners across the big pond? do you actually send the vine to them, make a copy and send it to them, or what. a vine can just as easily die here as it could there.i know that there are viners here from overseas, but just curious as to what has been done in the past.
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I think we have had vines go all over the place from Canada, Europe, and to Australia and back. Other than lag-time, I don't recall any problems. I have mailed small packages to England, and I don't recall it being expensive--maybe a few dollars more. Use the US Post Office and not a private quick & ship business because it's a lot cheaper.
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traded discs across the pond, and it's almost less expensive to send to europe than it is to canada. just looking for some input here thats all.
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It used to be that we would set up Euro only vines, but as less Euros, and less Americans, are vining, that has gone the way of cassette tapes. I have recently sent a vine to Europe. I think it is fine. As long as postage isn't more than a few bucks more, I don't have a problem with it.
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Also, Happy Holidays to everyone. I had to comment that I just logged on there were only three members logged on. A few weeks ago when they were giving away a free download each day, there were HUNDREDS of people logged on all the time. My dad used to say that people would line up for dog crap--if it was being given away free. Its ironic when you think about how much free music is available to all here in the vineyard! "The sky was yellow and the sun was blue."
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Yep, I have been camped out here lately. The new guys like Jimmy and Matt have sorta brought new life to the vineyard--kinda energized the place. No offense, but I am glad it's not so crowded now because I had a hard time logging on during those peak "free giveaway" weeks. Merry Christmas all
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on the 30 days thing. Was there anything "new" released. By that I mean anything not in the vineyard or on Archive.org?
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I stopped paying attention the last 10 days, but there was at least 1, and I think at least 2 tracks, that came from either uncirculated shows or SBD sources. One was one of the Fall 81 acoustic shows. I think there was a 66-68 show too. They only released 1 song per day, and each day was a different show. What was remarkable to me was how good the sound quality was for some of this stuff. Officially releasing this stuff would upgrade the sound quality for some of these shows. Of course, that will never happen in our lifetime, at least not at a price that we would be willing to pay.
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sorry zepthompson; I forgot to include you as one of the new guys.
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especially when a new page comes along happy to be here and digging on all the fine music listening to Hot Tuna right now (from a FWGV vine) getting to know some new people - making new friends what its all about new to flac and wave format - but adjusting nicely Thanks guys! -zep. (for short - and easier to spell)
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Thanks to all the fine folk here Happy Holidays
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Everyone have a very Jerry Christmas and a Happy New Weir! (cheezy, but had to be said) Joe
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Hope all my vining friends are having an awesome holiday!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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And for all those with wee ones have a Great time in a few hrs.Bless you all be safe. And have fun. Smiley Dave Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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IMHO 76 is without a doubt JGB at it's best. Followed by 77 & 78 of course. I know a lot of heads aren't fond of Donna in the Dead, but her and Jerry really had it together in the Jerry Garcia Band. To me 1976 JGB rivals the 1977 Grateful Dead run. Its really hard to find a bad show, you know. Awesome vine dstache!
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Here are the shows recommended by the editors and/or reviewers in the Compendium for the years 1990-1992. I omitted some shows I already have (presumably from vines) and those that I know have either been vined or officially released. I'm sure I missed some so please check before you vine anything. 1990: 9/7, 9/11, 9/12, 9/14, 9/15, 9/18 , 9/19, 10/17, 10/19, 10/20, 10/27, 10/30, 10/31, 12/3, 12/4, 12/9, 12/12, 12/13 and 12/14 12/12 is especially recommended. The Sept MSG (less 9/16 which has been officially released) and Dec Denver (12/12-14) runs would be tasty vine fodder. 1991 It seems like just about every show is supposed to be good. 3/20, 3/27, 3/31, 4/1, 4/3, 4/4, 4/5, 4/8, 4/27, 4/28, 5/3, 5/4, 5/5, 5/10, 5/11, 5/12, 6/6, 6/7, 6/9, 6/11, 6/12, 6/14, 6/17, 6/19, 6/20, 6/22, 6/24, 6/25, 6/28, 8/14, 8/16, 8/17, 8/18, 9/4, 9/6, 9/12, 9/13, 9/14, 9/18 and 10/31 3/31, 4/1, 6/14 and 6/17 are especially recommended. And although I did not list it above, because I already have it in A- AUD, the September Boston run (9/20-26) in SBD would be awesome! 1992 3/1, 3/2, 3/5, 3/6, 3/8, 3/9, 3/12, 3/13, 3/20, 5/21, 5/24, 5/29, 5/30, 5/31, 6/17, 6/18, 6/20, 6/23, 6/25, 6/28, 7/1, 12/5, 12/6, 12/12, 12/13, 12/16 and 12/17. 3/2, 5/31, 6/28 and 7/1 are especially recommended. The May Vegas run (5/29-31) looks to be one of the best. I'm basing all this on the Compendium, and they are not always right. If you have some hot shows that aren't listed, I am game to give 'em a listen. I will try to post re: 93-95 later this weekend.
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the Dec. Denver run (12,13, & 14). the first two nites bruce hornsby sits in with them. Excellent shows start to finish. Just got in after traveling to see family for the holidays and have a stack of vines to weed through. I'll get all the info to marye so she can give it a home.Happy New Year all!!!!
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I wish everyone a happy new year. I prefer '94 and '95 over late 80s and early 90s. Jerry's voice was clearer and less raspy.
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All, Great Work on the 90's information. Looking forward to seeing a new vine with some of the shows EDAD, maustin and dstache are mentioning. Thanks for letting us "new guys" be part of this community. Best New Years Wishes-Jimmy
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You guys are giving this space some much needed rejuvenation and I thank YOU! Maustin, thanks for the Denver December 90 run.
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Happy New Year 30 minutes away on the east coast 3 and half hours for us on the west coast glad you made it back home Matt going out to a karoke bar tonight with the wife and friends - wonder if they have some GD in their books haha cheers everyone!
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Be safe and have fun tonight... and everyone have a great 2011! Thanks to all on the vineyard for a fantastic new hobby! Peace, Joe
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Here are the recommended shows from the Compendium for 93-95 1993 1/26, 2/22, 2/23, 3/10, 3/11, 3/16, 3/18, 3/20, 3/21, 3/22, 3/29, 4/2, 4/4, 5/16, 5/21, 5/23, 5/27, 6/6, 6/8, 6/9, 6/13, 6/15, 6/16, 6/22, 6/23, 6/25, 6/26, 8/21, 8/22, 9/12, 9/13, 9/14, 9/24, 9/25, 9/29, 9/30, 12/8, 12/9, 12/10, 12/17, 12/18 and 12/19 Especially recommended are 2/23, 6/9 and 9/12. The Mar Atlanta run (3/20-22) and Sept Philly run (9/12-14) look really nice. 1994 3/4, 3/6, 3/20, 3/27, 3/28, 3/30, 3/31, 4/4, 4/7, 6/19, 6/26, 7/2, 7/3, 7/20, 7/21, 7/23, 7/24, 7/27, 7/29, 7/31, 8/1, 9/16, 9/17, 9/24, 10/5, 10/13, 10/15, 10/16, 10/18, 10/19, 11/29, 12/1, 12/15 and 12/16 The Oct MSG run (10/13-19 with 10/14 having already been vined) looks especially good. 1995 3/17, 3/18, 3/19, 3/22, 3/23, 3/29, 3/30, 4/1, 4/2, 4/5, 4/7, 5/21, 5/24, 5/25, 5/26, 6/2, 6/3, 6/4, 6/21, 6/22, 6/25 and 6/28 Especially recommended is 5/26. The March Philly (3/17-19) and May Seattle (5/24-26) runs would be great vines. Thanks everyone!