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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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July 27, 2018 - 7:15pm

#2201

Vguy72

Joined:
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Hold on hendrixfreak....

....I need to make some more popcorn and mescaline.
July 27, 2018 - 7:04pm

#2202

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Noon-ish is not the best time to catch a full-blown show.....

My memory has clearly telescoped events, because I almost think I remember rolling over in my sleeping bag and, for breakfast, snorting a pile of 'chocolate' mescaline off one of those mini-cereal boxes. I definitely took some blotter. But even if we'd 'slept in,' it must of been 10-ish or something. Surely we'd had some water and a snack, probably provided by a merciful neighbor. We were still 15 and we looked like what we were: goddamm-near children! Ah, so I was saying, we dropped acid and snorted mescaline and fired up the pipe with Numero Uno and, hey, is that freakin' Jerry on stage? Wait, Bobby. Phil. Bill. The piano guy. Jer kept dipping his cigarette into a brass ashtray and, when he re-lit it, it flared up. I didn't hit the blow til '75 but later, I thought, freebase. I hope someone can clarify this, but I think I recall the band starting just a bit after NOON(!). As far as I was concerned at the time, they fucking rocked the place for hours. I do recall, as I often feel, feeling goofy about a camera while tripping. But I managed to snap off three shots, of which two survive, which catch the three guitarists blasting away on Playing in the Band, then turning towards each other to converse more intimately, finally arriving in a tight circle and sending tides of sound across the crowd. I think this was the time I experienced Phil's bass as physical, purple pulses in my chest and the realization that vibrations, rather than corporeal reality, were at the heart of existence. I clearly remember the gospel treatment at the end of He's Gone and at the end of Sugar Mag, Weir thrust his arm skyward for stop time, ran back to his amps, downed the rest of a Heineken and raced back to the mic for the coda. Still, I was 15, down front at one of the biggest gatherings of humans in history. I did look back over the crowd, but, as usual, there wasn't much profit in looking back. Not with the Grateful Dead killing it in front of me.
July 27, 2018 - 6:44pm

#2203

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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The Soundcheck

The Allmans rocked big time. They'd slayed us at RFK after the Dead when, exhausted and dehydrated, we had retreated to the shaded overhang of RFK and been simply psychedelically rolled over by the ABB. They smoked the Dead that day. Back to the Soundcheck. I got up and hiked around the scene while it was still afternoon. A very loose scene with lots of elbow room, cool air, breathing. I returned to our space, easily located, for The Band. It was nearly sunset when the Grateful Dead took the stage. We had all the room we needed. I started the soundcheck boogie-ing upright, shakin it to the rock 'n roll. I had snorted some mescaline and taken maybe a half tab of the blotter. Everyone knew this was unprecedented in GD history. Here we were, groovin' on a cool pine forest evening, high but not pressed and our favorite band was blasting away on the finest sound system we'd ever heard. I do not recall individual songs, just the transition between comprehensible songs and jams that had us smiling for reasons we knew not. [Beautiful Jam from So Many Roads is blasting in the background as I write these words.] I do clearly recall the feeling of complete ease as I nestled down into my sleeping bag, head on cool gallon jug, looking up at the band just jamming away. We rode it out after the band departed and the next thing we knew, it was morning and the crowd was bustling, hustling, and by noon it was show time all over again.
July 27, 2018 - 6:39pm

#2204

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Hendrixfreak

I hope you are writing these in a word processing program and saving them.You probably should combine your memories and pictures and put it out on the internets where it will hopefully be forever preserved. Maybe upload the final version to the archive someday.
July 27, 2018 - 6:32pm

#2205

Trainwrecked

Joined:
February 4, 2018

5/9/77

Any headphone listeners out there? Or maybe you don't need them. I find the bass on this GSTL recording overwhelming. Bertha and Help On the Way are good places to start. I don't get the same thing with the SB I have if this show. I think Jeff Norman boosted it somehow. Anyone else notice it? Garyfarseer - what kind of medicine?
July 27, 2018 - 6:29pm

#2206

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

The greatest missed show on Earth

Long story shrunk to size... We had to get home on 10 June 1973 because we were exhausted, dehydrated, broke, without tickets, food, water, anything, so we thumbed back and tried to blend into humanity. I was 15. I lived with my parents, of course, and they needed to see some evidence that I was alive. They never even said a word about my setting out for a multi=day excursion in jeans and a t-shirt. We just did it. We heard the 10 June show was smokin' and we were pissed. We were NOT going to be caught short like that again. No effin' way. So when the news broke of a show with all three of the greatest rock bands of that time -- the Grateful Dead, the Allman Brothers and The Band -- we were on it like white on rice. Tickets cost $10.50? We had 'em. And we'd just seen the Allmans at Madison Square Garden in, May? I smuggled in a bong. A young cop caught me. An older cop said, "Let him go. It's a bong. Don't worry about it." Jesus, this whole law enforcement thing was confusing! But my view was broadening... Late July 1973. The older brother of a hot schoolmate of ours was driving to Watkins Glen. We signed on. Me, Mark L, David W, and a few others. We brought our backpacks. We had a little food. A shit-ton of Numero Uno. No alcohol. I had a sheet of blotter. Someone's adept use of the map enabled us to skirt around the worst of the traffic and we actually accessed the grounds in fine fashion, probably 12 hrs ahead of the hoo-ska-boo that eventually developed. The van's inhabitants split into units and we never saw our driver-host again, until a week later, just before the 31 July - 1 August shows back at Roosevelt Stadium. (Biggies, waiting for release...) So we hike over to the "gate," passing food trucks that specialized in big scoops of weed. We snickered, fully equipped. We were still 15. We entered the gates around midday and for some reason no one took my ticket, so I immediately doubled back to the chain link fence and passed my whole ticket to a have-not. Instinct, communal instinct. Later, my parents said that friends of theirs in Europe had seen footage that included my entrance into the concert site. The stage was perhaps 2/3 of a mile away. As we walked down the gently sloping hill towards the stage it was obvious we were a bit early. In earlier shows we were leery of getting too close because of the physical crush, the volume and the collective high that sometimes ... got a bit hairy. But fresh off missing 10 June, we marched down and claimed a beautiful space about 20 yards from the stage, just a bit left of center. On our way, we'd grabbed a few one-gallon water jugs that were set out free by Bill Graham in response to the scene at RFK in DC 6 weeks earlier. I found myself high on mescaline, laying on my sleeping bag with my head resting on a cool one-gallon jug of potable water and passing a doobie when the crowd sputtered and roared. It was late afternoon and the Allman Brothers had just taken the stage.
July 27, 2018 - 6:06pm

#2207

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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RFK, June 1973

Throughout the fall of 1972 and through the winter-spring of 1973 I had ingested numerous psychedelics, including the wonderful agent known as mescaline and naturally a few substantial doses of the Lady Herself. At one point, with my buddy Moose, we were sitting atop a van-sized boulder in a 2,000 acre wooded preserve near home and we focused on the visual margin between the rock beneath us and the ground in the background and felt that we had lifted the boulder upon which we sat perhaps several inches into the air, then lowered it again to its natural resting place. But I digress... June 1973 and me and David W are hitching to RFK in DC about 200 miles away for the 9-10 June 1973 shows. It's summer. So obviously we go in t-shirts, jeans, sneakers, with a ticket and few single dollars/dead presidents in my pocket. Next to the sheet of oval 4-way blotter. A little smokum in the sock, in case we got stopped. Look, we're 15, okay? 16 was months away. We were just up for adventure, loud rock 'n roll and, um, a closer look at the scene. I remember that some of the serious traveling hippies with LSD-dead eyes were there selling pipes, but also passing them around. We had long hair but we were little kids! These folks looked 50 but were probably 20, i.e., impossibly old, grizzled and of unknown origin. But no one actually bothered us, nor was there any attention. Everyone treated us as adults. So we slept on the ground on the grassy parts outside the stadium that night. No water, no food, no equipment. The next day, temperatures climbed towards 100. We were smoking a joint by the grate that blocked one entrance and a black cop motioned us over. We approached cautiously. "Hand me some of that, will you?" he asked. "WHAAAT???" was our initial reaction, having already experienced the pleasure of being cuffed and harassed by the cops for having a beer in the park. Turned out, cops can be cool, too. We burned two with the cat and we bid each other a good day. He was clearly amused by the scene, but in a groovy way. This was 1973 and racism and violence over the Vietnam War made longhairs outcasts, just like minorities of every stripe, then and now. Short story long, me and David split a 4-way and the Dead played that afternoon, opening for the ABB that night. The lines for water were long. We survived on The Lady, a little water and some "Numero Uno" substance we thought was hash but turned out to be opium. Worked for us that day, though, the heat was excruciating and I'm sure a lot of folks needed help in the heat. I got up close for Chinacat at the end of the first set. I was mesmerized. Bobby played a Gibson SG, which in my mind meant "bass guitar." Phil was playing a big possibly semi-hollowbody bass that said to my untutored eyes, "rhythm guitar." But I was already a huge Phil fan (being a Jer fan was too obvious) and this had me confused. At some point some idiot hurled a lit M-80 onto the stage (June 9, right? obviously in close proximity to July 4??) and it rolled up to Jer. In that day, he had a stage mannerism of sort of shuffling in place and I saw him move his right foot forward in perfect time and using the tip of his cowboy boot sent the live M-80 back out over the crowd. I don't even recall hearing it explode. The music was pretty loud.
July 27, 2018 - 5:47pm

#2208

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Nice warmup HF

Patiently waiting for the grand finale....
July 27, 2018 - 5:39pm

#2209

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

Backstory and launch....

The briefest of backstories: Six years old in 1964, persuaded my mom to buy me a Beatles LP at the checkout counter of the local discount store. Played it on monaural phonograph with one 12" speaker output. Rocked as child. 13 years old in 1970, convince mom to drive me and a friend to a Chambers Bros concert. We dug the music but were too young for 'action.' 15 years old, summer of '72, catch The Byrds and New York Rock 'n Roll Ensemble at college outside Saugerties NY where The Band rec'd Big Pink five years earlier. We drove by Big Pink. (Still Pink.) We were 15. (An older brother was actually driving...) Since 1971, been spinning American Beauty and Skull & Roses LPs on the same phonograph as in 1964, only now it's in the basement where our ping-pong table and hang-out couch are located. 19 Sept 1972, I jump in a car full of older heads with an ounce of hash in my pocket, 33 days after my 15th birthday, and we proceed to the Roosevelt Stadium in lovely Jersey City, New Jersey, and catch my first Grateful Dead show. I had already been 'experienced,' but did not drop at this show; too chaotic, large crowd, determined to survive and catch my ride home. I listened for familiar songs, jams, anything -- nothing! Everything was different. Records, shme-cords. This scene was crazy. Maybe 10,000 people screamin' high groovin', freakin', dancin', gyratin', handing you things you knew best to pass along... I was alone in the giant crowd with the music louder but sweeter than anything I'd ever heard before. The music rocked, I just couldn't grab onto a big Jerry jabbin' guitar riff that would remind me of Skull & Roses. Obviously, this was no American Beauty. As Jer once said, recording in a studio is like building a ship in a bottle. Playing live is like being on the ocean in an open rowboat. And that's kinda how I felt -- out there, surfin', knew I'd have to get home ... 3 hours into the show, I do remember saying to myself, "Well, all righty then, damn good show, YOU CAN STOP PLAYING ANYTIME, I'M GOOD. GOTTA GET SOME REST... MUST SNAG RIDE HOME..." Part II, coming ...
July 27, 2018 - 5:31pm

#2210

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Thanks dmcvt

The photos of the stage show how high it was. Need safety railings to keep the musicians from falling off.

John Perry Barlow

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

shocked!

Michelle Shocked - The L&N Don't Stop Here Anymore edit - oh yeah, the monkees, last train to clarksville

Trains

Trains stir the imagination of places to go, places you've been. The power, the sound. TCM has a short they run about the train in movies and lord knows they are the subject of many a photo/painting/puzzles. More than a few movies about trains. Deadheads are by nature a wanderlust group, so I understand the connection. Musician have always had the connection, the timing of the steam, the clack of the tracks. “You know what the three most exciting sounds in the world are? Anchor chains, plane motors & train whistles” – George Bailey (from It’s a Wonderful Life)

Freight Train

Since Jerry covers this, it should be ok.

Train Song

Casey Jones-The Grateful Dead.

Trippin' On the Tracks

Psychedelic Furs "Into You Like a Train"

Grateful Dead Train Songs

Now we're talking: Casey Jones ("Driving that train, high on cocaine") Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) (song title) China Cat Sunflower ("double-E waterfall" - as in "flaggin' down the double-E") He's Gone ("Like a steam locomotive rolling down the track") Jack Straw ("Gotta go to Tulsa, first train we can ride") Lazy River Road ("Bright blue box cars, train by train") Might As Well ("Long train running from coast to coast") New Potato Caboose (song title) New Speedway Boogie ("This train's got to run today") So Many Roads ("Thought I heard that KC whistle moaning sweet and low") Tennessee Jed ("Listen to the whistle of the evening train") Terrapin Station ("But the train's put its brakes on and the whistle is screaming") They Love Each Other ("It's nothing they explain, it's like a diesel train") Tons Of Steel ("She's more a roller-coaster than the train I used to know") Unbroken Chain ("Ride you out on a cold railroad and nail you to a cross") Not to mention so, so many covers. http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-grateful-dead-and-trains-gue…

Robert Hunter

"That Train Don't Run Here Anymore"

Train Songs?

City of New Orleans = Steve Goodman. Don't know him? Look it up. Great Writer 5:15 The Who. Most definitely about a train. NOT a Ferry!!!!!! Great Movie too "Quadrophenia". Sting makes a very funny Ace Face Age=Wisdom

Unless I scrolled too fast....

....I'm shocked that no one has mentioned Locomotive Breath. If I need to mention the band, I'm doubly shocked.

Don’t you start away uneasy

Aqualung my friend.... Hey, it’s better than a Phish video.....

Trains

Another Rush song... A Passage to Bangkok We're on the train to Bangkok Aboard the Thailand Express We'll hit the stops along the way We only stop for the best

THAT LAST TRAIN

TO CLARKSVILLE....... OK can we now switch tracks and bring the conversation back to THE WHO vs. DOORS topic?? KIDDING!!!!!

train movies

Someone mentioned movies with trains. Instantly I thought of "Silver Streak". That was one of the very first movies I saw with a friend without any parents. We loved it! I think we saw it 3 times and we knew all the big scenes. It was 1976 so we were about 11. We didn't know what to make of the intimate scenes with Jill Clayburgh and Gene Wilder. A man and a woman alone, acting goofy, with odd music. Their encounters seemed very mysterious, but somehow important. I suppose that movie planted the seeds for my lifelong love of train travel. I'm looking forward to seeing the new Branagh "Murder on the Orient Express". Has anyone seen it? (please no spoilers, I haven't seen the original!)

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Gollum

I feel like you will dig this movie!

Train.....

Movie; The Cassandra CrossingSong; the Petticoat Junction theme song.

MST3K

MST3K had an episode featuring a movie called "The Dead Talk Back". One of the skits had the host and robots dressed in tye dye and they sang a song called "Cosmic Freight Train." The one 'bot, Crow was dressed like Jerry and did a looooong solo. The other two began a game of chess while the solo played on and on. Look for it....It's really funny!

RIP

Aretha Franklin

Hail Aretha

Spinning the hits. She's sensational. How good it is to live in an age of recording. May she rest in peace. She sure delivered the goods. Caught her live in 1991 in Gary, Indiana, on a hot summer night in a modest-sized, sweltering theater. Word was, they wouldn't use air conditioning, which the theater had, because she said it would mess with her voice. Everyone looked at each other like, "Whatever the Queen wants is fine with me." She rocked the joint.

Sigh, train

Rolling Stones Silver Train and No Expectations. Don't recall reading those yet. Love in Vain was mentioned.

Labor Day

Would be nice if these starting shipping in order to arrive before Labor Day weekend. A nice long weekend to absorb this would be ideal, but most likely will not be the case.

More on Plangent

Had some time to dig around for the articles I mentioned this morning. The list is from an unconfirmed source on the Steve Hoffman site. By unconfirmed, I mean I don't know where he got it or if it's 100% accurate. I know for sure E72 Complete, Winterland 1973, and both May 1977 box sets. The reason I excluded Winterland '73 from my "examples" of the quality benefits Plangent provides, is because I also recall it was recorded on some kind of wider, faster super-tape than most Grateful Dead two-tracks, so that's two significant a variable to ignore if one is interested in an apples to apples comparison of with / without Plangent. I think the best comparison is yet to come, with the Pacific NW Box set. Will it sound better than DaP 21? (which is, in my opinion, the best sounding UN-Plangented two-track from 1973). Edit: With regard to the list of releases that were Plangented, The July 1978 Box set was spoken about on the Steve Hoffman Forum as though it was, but I don't see Plangent mentioned anywhere on the dead.net page where it's up for sale. Both May 1977 sale pages mention Plangent. I have to assume then that July 1978 was not, unless someone has the CD case in front of them and tell us otherwise. The Plangent website: https://www.plangentprocesses.com/ Interview with Jamie Howarth (Plangent CEO) https://audiophilereview.com/analog/plangent---a-better-way-to-transfer… Discussion Thread on Plangent from the Steve Hoffman forum. Includes a list of releases: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-plangent-process.399347/ Live at the Cow Palace: New Year's Eve 1976 Winterland 1973: The Complete Recordings Rocking the Cradle: Egypt 1978 Winterland June 1977: The Complete Recordings Formerly the Warlocks Europe '72: The Complete Recordings– and subsequent compilation and single shows Dark Star single May 1977 Sunshine Daydream 30 Trips Around the Sun: The Definitive Live Story 1965–1995 – partially, for the non-cassette and non-DAT tape shows – and subsequent compilation partially. May 1977: Get Shown The Light

july '78

Tape-to-Digital Transfer and Wow-and Flutter Correction: John K. Chester and Jamie Howarth, Plangent Processes

David D

Glad to see the rumors of your demise were greatly exaggerated.Hope all is well.

Kiss...lol...

theater only

i defer to Dave D on this.

But only the 7/8/78 show has that listed. the box info doesn't mention it. http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/red-rocks-amphitheatre-july-1978-box?in… The ABB CD was good enough proof for my ears. it's a waste to release the Betty reels without the Plangent process. give the returned tapes their own series, make it downloadable, 3 times a year every 4 months. with Dave's Picks every 3 months and a box it's almost a release a month.

KG

I like the way you think.

Steve Goodman

If anyone is unfamiliar with Steve Goodman and is interested I recommend checking out this extra piece from his Austin City Limits dvd https://youtu.be/yZx7xCK6yfo

re; Kayak Guy....

....this guy Dead's.

Stoltz

Kiss, largely theater. Their first double LP live album is pure hard rock, on par with bands like VH, AC/DC, and Aerosmith. I think one would need to enjoy that record to go any deeper into their catalog. Frehley is the only guy in the band with any real talent. He carried the band through the 70s in my opinion. Even with the unique theater aspect, I don't think they would have made it out of New York without him.

Betty Plangent

I would definitely invest in that series. I don't think they would ever make it download only or even as an option. Too much of a piracy risk. They would be sure to lose out on money and it costs more to put it through Plangent. I was looking at July 1978 sales page, and it's had the message that the download option is being fixed for a year I think. I don't think they're fixing it, I think they're waiting to sell it out first. Once the physical stuff that they invested in is gone, then a little piracy isn't going to hurt them as much. For my part, I buy everything. I could handle a release a month! What about the Kidd Candelaria tapes though? And Bear. I would pretty much take anything from the 60s and 70s, regardless of who recorded it.

Plangent Processed Betty Boards subscription series

because the returned tapes were not in the vault when Dave's Picks was set up those reels in the vault were considered fair game. the Betty's are different and only returned recently and being mined for box sets and Dave's, but the Dave's don't get Plangented because it isn't in the budget. the difference in the ABB reels is amazing compared to the old GDM copy. downloads are for anyone that wants to get them on Itunes or Amazon to cover the added processing costs. no cover art, just a generic reel cover with the date and info. they could call it Dave's Private Stock or Dave's Premium...

pg 48

My info comes from page 48 of the booklet included in the box.

Re: Plangent & The Full Norman

I concur.. please spare no expense to bring these master reels to life. You might just get only one chance, so make it count. I would add, I believe Jeffrey Norman has gotten better at his job, so the sonic upgrade likely has two components. Spare no expense, this is the stuff of history.

i again defer to David

good to have you back ;) my copy is in the storage room and just went from the online data. July 1978 is a great box and deserved to be Plangented. now what about 4/2/73?

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Soooo. If I understand this discussion correctly....

....the July '78 box could sound even better? Guess it's time to upgrade my q-tips. And I like KISS. Frehley was the most talented for sure. Vinnie Vincent wasn't too shabby either.

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muskrat love

Ha! the gloves are off. i actually enjoyed "Muskrat" and Paper Roses", Jim! You forgot Terry Jacks "Seasons in the Sun" and Bay City Rollers "Saturday Night"

Ha.

Lets hope it ends before that. :D But thanks for bringing in some much needed good spirit.

Muskrat Love....

....I totally recall watching that at my babysitters when I was sevenish. She was a sweet older lady named Lettie. She had pomegranate trees in her backyard and a very pink bathroom that smelled like lilacs. She also had Donohue and the Price Is Right timed to the second. She also made the best toast. The mind is an incredible force....little did I know that the Dead were coming off their hiatus. Stupid seven year old me. I bet I could still find her house if I tried.

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MSTK 300 sketch referred to below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ84i9QdIQk

Mastering and Lost Opportunities

Jim you're right! Once it is released it seems that any opportunity to improve quality with mastering techniques is lost. If it just didn't exist at the time of release (FW69) then c'est la vie, but skipping it because it is not in the budget, well that just hurts. Charge us more, we will pay it I am sure; I will at least! Advertise that the cost is $1 more per disc because of remastering costs. I bet you get more praise and additional sales because of that than gripes! Spring 90 comes to mind on this issue. The fact that they didn't utilize the multi-track tapes just kills me. The proof is in the pudding when comparing to the follow up Spring 90 TOO release. Lost opportunity indeed - no multi-track master should ever be released without full remastering!!

I Would

Purchase remastered Plangent Dick's Picks. I'm not sure how much improvement 1978 July would get, but Dick's Picks would be incredible.

Plangent Processed Betty Boards subscription series.

it's not about redoing the old CDs, though the ABB Fillmore East 1970 sonic journals would make a good case for a redo of Bear's Choice and the Dick's Picks compilations. this is about a new series with the returned Betty reels and not allowing them to be used for Dave's Picks which doesn't get Plangent processing. old reels and cassettes are fine for Dave's Picks as nice Rhino handmade bootlegs without having the Plangent processing in the budget or time frame. the recently returned Betty's, as they have shown in the recent boxes, are significantly improved by the Plangent process. it's a waste to use them for Dave's and makes me wonder how 1/22/78 might have sounded with the Plangent processing. stop making Dave choose which Betty reels get the regular process, when they all deserve the Plangent process. 12,000 CD runs then digital download for ever as flac or alac to cover the added processing costs. generic tape box labels like the original Dick's Picks for the cover art in the same digipaks as Dave's Picks, every 4 months delivered to your mailbox for say $99 a year or $35 as a single show. they could call it Däve's Choice Cuts or Däve's Premium.

Betty Plangents

Is 1 per month too much to ask? Warner needs to buy several Plangent devices. They can afford it, and I’m sure they have a lot of reels they could use them for after they are done with the GD vault.

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