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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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June 19, 2018 - 10:17am

#3521

Mr. Pete

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Gone by the holidays....

I would guess by the time the box comes out, and deadheads comment on how nice the box looks, that will "seal the deal" for a lot of people.I am not familiar with the NW shows so I am very much looking forward to sitting down, pouring a cold beverage, lighting up one of my dead meerschaum pipes, and enjoying each show. I am sure the quality of the sound will be...excellent! A lot of us forget how bad cassettes were in the day. Not all...but most! Have a great day! Mr. Pete-----------------> aging hippie
June 19, 2018 - 9:51am

#3522

tncorey

Joined:
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@Keithfan

Total run time for 6/1 @ Camden was 2 hrs, 54 minutes (18 songs including encore) per my Nugs download. For 6/2, it was 1 hr, 46 minutes (10 songs). I don't have the specific Set 1 vs. Set 2 breakdown at the moment. In listening, I felt like the 6/2 first set seemed longer than usual. On a related note, hoping to catch the boys at Blossom tomorrow if time permits!
June 19, 2018 - 9:50am

#3523

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
October 2, 2012

Refund

Not sure why you feel entitled to a refund. You don't get a refund if a baseball game gets called early due to rain. You don't get a refund if you buy a ski pass for the season and it does not snow. Our plow guy certainly does not offer a refund if it does not snow. The same thing happened in Canandaigua a few years back. Sucks, but that is how life works.
June 19, 2018 - 9:14am

#3524

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Fun fact....

....Dead & Co busted out The Eleven on the eleventh show of the tour. I don't believe in coincidences....Haha. Poop. Congrats Sixtus.
June 19, 2018 - 9:12am

#3525

frosted

Joined:
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Jeff Beck

Lucky you, daverock and Jim. Have only seen him live once, back in 1979 or 80 (edit: oops, not that anybody cares, but I remember now that it was in 1976. 42 years ago? Ouch) not long after Wired came out, so that and Blow by Blow made up a good portion of the show. How could anyone not like that? Seems he'll be in southern Cal this tour but I'm up north, so will miss him again. In the age of youtube, though, it's easy to see parts of these tours that I cannot attend. He's still among the pinnacle of my rock guitar favorites, with that rare blend of technique, emotion, and inventiveness. I can listen to Garcia endlessly, but when I'm in the right mood, JB has that different sort of mojo that's a cut above. Guys like Clapton, Santana, Robbie Robertson, and name 20 others always had lots of talent, but Beck continued to evolve and innovate, and damn does he ever age? I think his adventurous spirit, constant playing with new and talented sidemen, and restraint on overexposing himself has helped him maintain his longevity and freshness. Just re-read your post daverock, and somehow I missed the Imelda May reference as the warm up act on my first read. Wow, would I have liked to have been at that show! Jim, you'll be lucky if she comes along on his US tour too.
June 19, 2018 - 9:01am

#3526

Sixtus_

Joined:
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Percentages

Thx Jimbo. And I did some quick math on your numbers below - they are eerily similar in terms of % unique songs played; FW 69 is 35.4839% 'unique songs' vs. PNW 73/74 being 36.5854% unique songs. Moral of the story seems to be that repeats have long been A Thing across runs. I ain't complainin'! Fun w/#'s Sixtus P.S. and it was the China > Rider transition from 5/19/74, while listening on my Walkman strolling to my French class that had me repeatedly rewinding that Feelin Groovy jam which has since had me 1000% hooked on that little snippet whenever and wherever it pops up.
June 19, 2018 - 8:47am

#3527

JimInMD

Joined:
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Re: Sixtus III, I'm Shocked, Songs..

First.. congrats and best of luck Sixtus. Seond.. I got a nice chuckle out of thin being "shocked!" Chortled my coffee a bit.. I suspect the frequent visitors of these threads are mostly all-in on this one with some that are interested but passing for various reasons. I think it's worth it for a cleaned up, pristine PNE 73 alone, add in Seattle 74 and the rest is bonus material. I cannot get enough WRS's either, Truckin' had legs back then, China Riders were going through a pivotal evolution, there are some first set novelties like The Race is On, early Peggy-O's and others and you have the makings for a great box set. ..and that's before the extra time and effort mastering, Plangent, etc. As for songs. Just for kicks and giggles I compared to FW 69. I know there is no comparison, FW was an explosive early high water mark. ..but this is how they match up: FW 69 Shows 4 Songs 62 Avg. Songs per Show 15.5 Unique Songs 22 PNW 73/74 Shows 6 Songs 164 Avg. Songs per Show 27.3 Unique Songs 60
June 19, 2018 - 8:25am

#3528

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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Dead & Co Rain Out Camden June 2

On a different note, I decided I wanted to know where it said in my ticket agreement that the BB&T Pavilion can cancel a show at some point through it without offering a refund. They are offering some free streaming stuff, but to be frank, I was treated rather belligerently by the woman I spoke to. She actually interrupted me, and said the words, "you're not getting a refund" after cutting me off several times in an impatient tone. I was very cordial in my questions and demeanor, so, clearly no respect for the customer (not because I wasn't given a refund right), but because I was talked down to and interrupted. This woman, after not knowing the answers, told me to Google it. I guess I can't be too surprised at poor customer service, but I can't remember the last time congeniality was reciprocated by condescension. I asked for her manager and was forwarded to his voice mail, so I left him a message. I don't know about you guys, but this sort of thing sticks in my craw, and frankly the discussion on Hell Freezes Over and increased ticket sales prices is what really got me to thinking I'm not happy with this outcome, and that I was going to call about it. I believe that the cost to either BB&T Pavilion and or Dead and Company to redo the show is going to hurt their pocketbooks a lot less than a great number of fans who attended, once you break it down to percentages and household income, etc. If it says in my ticket or anywhere in my purchase agreement that they have a right to do this, then it is what it is and I'm fine with it. If anyone out there has statistics on the number of minutes played at any Dead & Co shows, I would be grateful for them (like, if you have a show loaded up on your iPod, and the total runtime for both sets and Encore equals x number of minutes, that would be great thanks). The June 1st and 2nd Camden shows especially.
June 19, 2018 - 8:24am

#3529

Sixtus_

Joined:
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Sixtus The Third

Hey Now Just checking in after a bit of a hiatus - life's curveballs, you know? Busy times and not so busy times but busy times will indeed REIGN when Sixtus III arrives this Friday AM so long as all goes as scheduled. Then, crazy train. Good to catch up from the last several days, here. Psyched for this Big Box. Just looking forward to the smooth sound upgrade and some monster shows, just gimme it All. Dead & Co have been a lot of fun lately - that Billy Tell > Eleven rolled me over (sounds like VGuy too). Also coming out of Space into Eyes? My cup O' Tea. Be well people! revel in the summertime - I will certainly try and will do my best to check in and offer some candid updates. That may or may not involve poop. Sixtus
June 19, 2018 - 8:14am

#3530

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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Pacific Northwest Sellout Efficacy

It's almost impossible to compare sales performance of any one Grateful Dead box set to another. Some we don't know how many they produced (Winterland 1973 & 1977); some are from extremely famous runs (Cornell, Europe '72); some are relatively expensive; some are relatively inexpensive; and some are available for download, so we can't even measure their sales. In hindsight, it seems clear why Cornell, Europe 72, Fillmore West 1969, and 30 Trips Around the Sun sold out quickly. It is interesting that Winterland June 1977 and Winterland 1973 took about five years to sell out, while the May 1977 box set took less than a year. Judging by eBay prices, the Winterland '77 Box is in much higher demand. This has me thinking they either manufactured an assload of Winterland June 1977 boxes, or the "Limited Edition" marketing scheme is hugely effective. I can't see Pacific Northwest box being on the shelves for more than 6 months after the September 7th release date for the following reasons: * The time of their career it encompasses, '73 / '74 * The 15K Limited Edition production run (a number we know doesn't last too too long) * The fact that it's in the medium to low price range * Its availability for the holiday season * The "word of mouth" advertising this box is sure to get (I believe it's a foregone conclusion that it's going to sound great and contain outstanding performances - we are going to be raving about it after it hits our doorsteps, and if it didn't sell out by then, they will start selling like hotcakes as the holiday season approaches) * The Grateful Dead's back catalogue is arguably in higher demand than ever. Dead & Co's impact, I believe, has contributed greatly to this. Even if one doesn't think there is any relevance there, the fact remains the back catalog is in higher demand than ever based on the increased production numbers of Dave's Picks. So yeah, good times good times. I'm not surprised that this didn't sell out overnight. It's not Europe 72. I think it's most akin to the Dave's Picks yearly subscription sales. We all know the boxes are out there in comparatively high numbers, and we all know the rate at which they're selling. Some of us are taking our time because we have time to take. But the window will shorten once the product hits the street and the holidays are upon us. You can't keep half a dozen brand new releases from one of the Grateful Dead's most cherished eras out of the hands of Deadheads for long. This is not Cornell or Europe 72, but it is also no July 1978 or RFK '89. I think after all is said and done, the Pacific Northwest box may reflect the sales pattern of 30 Trips Around the Sun.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

shocked!

Michelle Shocked - The L&N Don't Stop Here Anymore edit - oh yeah, the monkees, last train to clarksville

Trains

Trains stir the imagination of places to go, places you've been. The power, the sound. TCM has a short they run about the train in movies and lord knows they are the subject of many a photo/painting/puzzles. More than a few movies about trains. Deadheads are by nature a wanderlust group, so I understand the connection. Musician have always had the connection, the timing of the steam, the clack of the tracks. “You know what the three most exciting sounds in the world are? Anchor chains, plane motors & train whistles” – George Bailey (from It’s a Wonderful Life)

Freight Train

Since Jerry covers this, it should be ok.

Train Song

Casey Jones-The Grateful Dead.

Trippin' On the Tracks

Psychedelic Furs "Into You Like a Train"

Grateful Dead Train Songs

Now we're talking: Casey Jones ("Driving that train, high on cocaine") Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) (song title) China Cat Sunflower ("double-E waterfall" - as in "flaggin' down the double-E") He's Gone ("Like a steam locomotive rolling down the track") Jack Straw ("Gotta go to Tulsa, first train we can ride") Lazy River Road ("Bright blue box cars, train by train") Might As Well ("Long train running from coast to coast") New Potato Caboose (song title) New Speedway Boogie ("This train's got to run today") So Many Roads ("Thought I heard that KC whistle moaning sweet and low") Tennessee Jed ("Listen to the whistle of the evening train") Terrapin Station ("But the train's put its brakes on and the whistle is screaming") They Love Each Other ("It's nothing they explain, it's like a diesel train") Tons Of Steel ("She's more a roller-coaster than the train I used to know") Unbroken Chain ("Ride you out on a cold railroad and nail you to a cross") Not to mention so, so many covers. http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-grateful-dead-and-trains-gue…

Robert Hunter

"That Train Don't Run Here Anymore"

Train Songs?

City of New Orleans = Steve Goodman. Don't know him? Look it up. Great Writer 5:15 The Who. Most definitely about a train. NOT a Ferry!!!!!! Great Movie too "Quadrophenia". Sting makes a very funny Ace Face Age=Wisdom

Unless I scrolled too fast....

....I'm shocked that no one has mentioned Locomotive Breath. If I need to mention the band, I'm doubly shocked.

Don’t you start away uneasy

Aqualung my friend.... Hey, it’s better than a Phish video.....

Trains

Another Rush song... A Passage to Bangkok We're on the train to Bangkok Aboard the Thailand Express We'll hit the stops along the way We only stop for the best

THAT LAST TRAIN

TO CLARKSVILLE....... OK can we now switch tracks and bring the conversation back to THE WHO vs. DOORS topic?? KIDDING!!!!!

train movies

Someone mentioned movies with trains. Instantly I thought of "Silver Streak". That was one of the very first movies I saw with a friend without any parents. We loved it! I think we saw it 3 times and we knew all the big scenes. It was 1976 so we were about 11. We didn't know what to make of the intimate scenes with Jill Clayburgh and Gene Wilder. A man and a woman alone, acting goofy, with odd music. Their encounters seemed very mysterious, but somehow important. I suppose that movie planted the seeds for my lifelong love of train travel. I'm looking forward to seeing the new Branagh "Murder on the Orient Express". Has anyone seen it? (please no spoilers, I haven't seen the original!)

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Gollum

I feel like you will dig this movie!

Train.....

Movie; The Cassandra CrossingSong; the Petticoat Junction theme song.

MST3K

MST3K had an episode featuring a movie called "The Dead Talk Back". One of the skits had the host and robots dressed in tye dye and they sang a song called "Cosmic Freight Train." The one 'bot, Crow was dressed like Jerry and did a looooong solo. The other two began a game of chess while the solo played on and on. Look for it....It's really funny!

RIP

Aretha Franklin

Hail Aretha

Spinning the hits. She's sensational. How good it is to live in an age of recording. May she rest in peace. She sure delivered the goods. Caught her live in 1991 in Gary, Indiana, on a hot summer night in a modest-sized, sweltering theater. Word was, they wouldn't use air conditioning, which the theater had, because she said it would mess with her voice. Everyone looked at each other like, "Whatever the Queen wants is fine with me." She rocked the joint.

Sigh, train

Rolling Stones Silver Train and No Expectations. Don't recall reading those yet. Love in Vain was mentioned.

Labor Day

Would be nice if these starting shipping in order to arrive before Labor Day weekend. A nice long weekend to absorb this would be ideal, but most likely will not be the case.

More on Plangent

Had some time to dig around for the articles I mentioned this morning. The list is from an unconfirmed source on the Steve Hoffman site. By unconfirmed, I mean I don't know where he got it or if it's 100% accurate. I know for sure E72 Complete, Winterland 1973, and both May 1977 box sets. The reason I excluded Winterland '73 from my "examples" of the quality benefits Plangent provides, is because I also recall it was recorded on some kind of wider, faster super-tape than most Grateful Dead two-tracks, so that's two significant a variable to ignore if one is interested in an apples to apples comparison of with / without Plangent. I think the best comparison is yet to come, with the Pacific NW Box set. Will it sound better than DaP 21? (which is, in my opinion, the best sounding UN-Plangented two-track from 1973). Edit: With regard to the list of releases that were Plangented, The July 1978 Box set was spoken about on the Steve Hoffman Forum as though it was, but I don't see Plangent mentioned anywhere on the dead.net page where it's up for sale. Both May 1977 sale pages mention Plangent. I have to assume then that July 1978 was not, unless someone has the CD case in front of them and tell us otherwise. The Plangent website: https://www.plangentprocesses.com/ Interview with Jamie Howarth (Plangent CEO) https://audiophilereview.com/analog/plangent---a-better-way-to-transfer… Discussion Thread on Plangent from the Steve Hoffman forum. Includes a list of releases: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-plangent-process.399347/ Live at the Cow Palace: New Year's Eve 1976 Winterland 1973: The Complete Recordings Rocking the Cradle: Egypt 1978 Winterland June 1977: The Complete Recordings Formerly the Warlocks Europe '72: The Complete Recordings– and subsequent compilation and single shows Dark Star single May 1977 Sunshine Daydream 30 Trips Around the Sun: The Definitive Live Story 1965–1995 – partially, for the non-cassette and non-DAT tape shows – and subsequent compilation partially. May 1977: Get Shown The Light

july '78

Tape-to-Digital Transfer and Wow-and Flutter Correction: John K. Chester and Jamie Howarth, Plangent Processes

David D

Glad to see the rumors of your demise were greatly exaggerated.Hope all is well.

Kiss...lol...

theater only

i defer to Dave D on this.

But only the 7/8/78 show has that listed. the box info doesn't mention it. http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/red-rocks-amphitheatre-july-1978-box?in… The ABB CD was good enough proof for my ears. it's a waste to release the Betty reels without the Plangent process. give the returned tapes their own series, make it downloadable, 3 times a year every 4 months. with Dave's Picks every 3 months and a box it's almost a release a month.

KG

I like the way you think.

Steve Goodman

If anyone is unfamiliar with Steve Goodman and is interested I recommend checking out this extra piece from his Austin City Limits dvd https://youtu.be/yZx7xCK6yfo

re; Kayak Guy....

....this guy Dead's.

Stoltz

Kiss, largely theater. Their first double LP live album is pure hard rock, on par with bands like VH, AC/DC, and Aerosmith. I think one would need to enjoy that record to go any deeper into their catalog. Frehley is the only guy in the band with any real talent. He carried the band through the 70s in my opinion. Even with the unique theater aspect, I don't think they would have made it out of New York without him.

Betty Plangent

I would definitely invest in that series. I don't think they would ever make it download only or even as an option. Too much of a piracy risk. They would be sure to lose out on money and it costs more to put it through Plangent. I was looking at July 1978 sales page, and it's had the message that the download option is being fixed for a year I think. I don't think they're fixing it, I think they're waiting to sell it out first. Once the physical stuff that they invested in is gone, then a little piracy isn't going to hurt them as much. For my part, I buy everything. I could handle a release a month! What about the Kidd Candelaria tapes though? And Bear. I would pretty much take anything from the 60s and 70s, regardless of who recorded it.

Plangent Processed Betty Boards subscription series

because the returned tapes were not in the vault when Dave's Picks was set up those reels in the vault were considered fair game. the Betty's are different and only returned recently and being mined for box sets and Dave's, but the Dave's don't get Plangented because it isn't in the budget. the difference in the ABB reels is amazing compared to the old GDM copy. downloads are for anyone that wants to get them on Itunes or Amazon to cover the added processing costs. no cover art, just a generic reel cover with the date and info. they could call it Dave's Private Stock or Dave's Premium...

pg 48

My info comes from page 48 of the booklet included in the box.

Re: Plangent & The Full Norman

I concur.. please spare no expense to bring these master reels to life. You might just get only one chance, so make it count. I would add, I believe Jeffrey Norman has gotten better at his job, so the sonic upgrade likely has two components. Spare no expense, this is the stuff of history.

i again defer to David

good to have you back ;) my copy is in the storage room and just went from the online data. July 1978 is a great box and deserved to be Plangented. now what about 4/2/73?

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Soooo. If I understand this discussion correctly....

....the July '78 box could sound even better? Guess it's time to upgrade my q-tips. And I like KISS. Frehley was the most talented for sure. Vinnie Vincent wasn't too shabby either.

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muskrat love

Ha! the gloves are off. i actually enjoyed "Muskrat" and Paper Roses", Jim! You forgot Terry Jacks "Seasons in the Sun" and Bay City Rollers "Saturday Night"

Ha.

Lets hope it ends before that. :D But thanks for bringing in some much needed good spirit.

Muskrat Love....

....I totally recall watching that at my babysitters when I was sevenish. She was a sweet older lady named Lettie. She had pomegranate trees in her backyard and a very pink bathroom that smelled like lilacs. She also had Donohue and the Price Is Right timed to the second. She also made the best toast. The mind is an incredible force....little did I know that the Dead were coming off their hiatus. Stupid seven year old me. I bet I could still find her house if I tried.

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MSTK 300 sketch referred to below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ84i9QdIQk

Mastering and Lost Opportunities

Jim you're right! Once it is released it seems that any opportunity to improve quality with mastering techniques is lost. If it just didn't exist at the time of release (FW69) then c'est la vie, but skipping it because it is not in the budget, well that just hurts. Charge us more, we will pay it I am sure; I will at least! Advertise that the cost is $1 more per disc because of remastering costs. I bet you get more praise and additional sales because of that than gripes! Spring 90 comes to mind on this issue. The fact that they didn't utilize the multi-track tapes just kills me. The proof is in the pudding when comparing to the follow up Spring 90 TOO release. Lost opportunity indeed - no multi-track master should ever be released without full remastering!!

I Would

Purchase remastered Plangent Dick's Picks. I'm not sure how much improvement 1978 July would get, but Dick's Picks would be incredible.

Plangent Processed Betty Boards subscription series.

it's not about redoing the old CDs, though the ABB Fillmore East 1970 sonic journals would make a good case for a redo of Bear's Choice and the Dick's Picks compilations. this is about a new series with the returned Betty reels and not allowing them to be used for Dave's Picks which doesn't get Plangent processing. old reels and cassettes are fine for Dave's Picks as nice Rhino handmade bootlegs without having the Plangent processing in the budget or time frame. the recently returned Betty's, as they have shown in the recent boxes, are significantly improved by the Plangent process. it's a waste to use them for Dave's and makes me wonder how 1/22/78 might have sounded with the Plangent processing. stop making Dave choose which Betty reels get the regular process, when they all deserve the Plangent process. 12,000 CD runs then digital download for ever as flac or alac to cover the added processing costs. generic tape box labels like the original Dick's Picks for the cover art in the same digipaks as Dave's Picks, every 4 months delivered to your mailbox for say $99 a year or $35 as a single show. they could call it Däve's Choice Cuts or Däve's Premium.

Betty Plangents

Is 1 per month too much to ask? Warner needs to buy several Plangent devices. They can afford it, and I’m sure they have a lot of reels they could use them for after they are done with the GD vault.

Steal your face :)

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