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  • hippiechuck
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    hang in there bro's
    HippieChuck-hang tough arthur and jack.there is no law anywhere sayin' you cant still go to meetings,the people are friendly,get a cup o' joe and listen,maybe you'll hear somethin' that clicks..it works that way sometimes.
  • Frankly
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    wow!!!after reading this i
    wow!!!after reading this i feel like the last addict in the world.but what does sober mean anyway? you can be dependant on nearly everything.feelings,people,moments..etc.nobody is a 100%independant because that would mean he is not connected with live!at least you depend up on oxygene,no???
  • heathaafeathaa
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    hey shack
    hey their,thats great im two months shy of 6yrs of sobrity.and this journy only unfolds a dayat a time.it took me some getting used to listinig to shows sober and going to shows sober.but the more you do it it'll get easier.just like living sober.the more you do it you change and get a different view on things,it'll finally click.and you just live each moment as you never have before.and thats not to say that life has its ups and downs cause it does ,but my experience has been,you roll w/ the punches and you trust in a power greater than yourself,clean house and work w/another drunk,or in your case addict,and i can promise you life will take on a new meaning.im grateful that your jazzed about your new way of life.feel free to share.this is a disease that needs to be talked to death,backed up with action.continue to embrace the music and shows.you can always catch a fellow sista or bro at a show so your not doin it alone.may you be launched into the 4th dimenson!!!!!way to go.peace.
  • lopez
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    I have been clean and going to NA for six months now. I agree there are some faults in the program, but it realy has saved my life. Some of the things that I didn't agree with in the begining ( like, that I had a desease ) make more since to me now. I have got back into the music and life now that I'm clean. I live In central Missouri, the only heads around here are meth heads. It is hard for me to relate to the violence and anger that drug seems to cause in people. Turning them on to some dead and JGB helps me feel at home. peace, robert
  • richard
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    Hey Shack,I feel ya'! Been clean 18 months now. I work the program in NA. I got back into listening to and collecting Dead shows about nine months ago. Until then I had completely missed the internet revolution. The shows I get now are much cleaner than my old tape collection. And with a clear head, I am discovering what truly awesome musicians these guys were (are). I find the music deeply spiritual and profoundly soul satisfying. Most of my NA family don't get it, but some do. FYI, there is an NA group in Longview TX called Grateful Heads. Every summer they have a big anniversary party (I think this year will be number 4). I'm gonna go this year and celebrate recovery with a bunch of brothers and sisters. Keep coming Back! Richard
  • d.c.dead
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    i feel u mr. shack..u know i
    i feel u mr. shack..u know i got 2 years and 10 months clean of all drugs and alcohol. i dont know to much about a.a. my heart is in n.a. .there r alot of faults in the program especialy in the people if u look 4 the faults.as far as the kind bud and acid not being negative i agree..4 me the disease of addiction is in my thought process. the drugs were just a symtom..what is a highly productive year? love u bro more will b revealed to both of us im sure....
  • shack
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    those shows are so so now!
    firstly, thanks tigerlilly, is that the design on one of jerry's guitars? ahhhh! i love you already. one thing about strict aa people entails this sense of waiting. i am secure in my sobriety and leaning forward towards life. i am not going to pretend that the doses i gobbled and kind budd that i smoked were a negative thingy. the cult atmosphere of my ex-sponsor is not something i want. i am listening to my recently deceased brother fred's first shows in atlanta '90. by the third night's 'shakedown' opener (4-3), he was hooked. this seems like right now, because it is! this grateful dead stuff is timeless, although i will admit that they are not the best at what they do -- they're just the only ones that do it! i never never could have got this far without aa, but i personally am done with it. within these forums are a bunch of mature deadheads that don't really walk around life with a nitrous balloon anymore. i am not going to pretend that i do not know, i do know! i know that i am going to have a highly productive 2008 and it is going to have lots and lots of grateful dead in it. check out set two opener of the show above; "my time coming anyday!" that day is now, rest in peace freddie with 4-1,2,3-90. peace, shack
  • TigerLilly
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    Go Shack!
    Tell us whatever is on your mind, and tell us LOUD and strong!!!!!!!!! Nobody's struggles and adventures are being "a pest, or bore" ing anybody!!! 22 months clean and sober-way to go, Brother!********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
  • shack
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    sing me back home!
    ya know kids, i have decided a little something. please allow me to share. i'd posted here a bit in july and then my little brother fred died late that month and i really love wharf rats. i am 46, 22 months sober and clean, and full time at iupui. i feel really secure in my sobriety, this is a whole new trip, and i mean it, a trip. i am hearing little idiosyncracities in gd that just were not present as i lived my life inna cloud. ok, i am separating myself from 'the' program, 'a' program; and this is the clincher - i love wharf rats! this is going to be my constant means of keeping in touch and attempting to pass on what i found in sobriety. i do not intend to be a pest or bore anybody, but i am growing up and looking way way ahead in life; further than next tour. i am available and respond to any messages and all notes. this is a simple program one day at a time (ODAAT). indpls. - deer creek. peace, shack
  • Rob the Drummer
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    we are everywhere
    Support Organ Donor Awareness-Donate Blood if you can and ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY I have not used for many moons I am grateful to say. I attended the WF meeting in Long Island NY but not in a long while. They are a grate bunch of folks. I still go to meetings of NA and AA. I have gone through Hep C treatment and my viral load is undetectable. I have much gratitude for this!!! I hang out at www.philzone.org hep c support and awareness. This is not 12 step but there is good support if anyone has hep c or knows anyone who has it. If anyone wants to talk about hep c or the state of the universe feel free to contact me Peace RTD
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Band Grateful Dead Venue Tompkins Square Park Location New York, NY Date 6/1/67 - Thursday posters tickets, passes & laminates Comments Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:36:15 -0800 From: Mike Bobrik [nvbobrm@nv.cc.va.us] Subject: Old Set Lists Like your site. Was looking through the early set lists. and please add: 6/1/67 tompkins Square Park NY, NY. [Incomplete and in very approximate order]: Golden Road, Dancin' in the Streets, Midnight Hour, BIODTL, Schoolgirl, Cold Rain and Snow, Dew, Viola Lee. My first show. Thanks, MAB For a review see Ed Doherty's page: < http://www.winternet.com/~edoherty/ > Recordings Download Sources
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As someone sober for many years to me it's as the saying goes. To thine own self be true. If it makes your life better by stopping taking the most controlling substance this worlds known I say it is up to you. If you no your doing what's rite then your doing what's rite. Because it makes you more content when you put your head on the pillow at night with a clear conscious . For me I can't take any chances with any substances at all which includes booze for that matter also.
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Where is everyone meeting up for this? If nothing is setup, would anyone like to meet? I'd suggest we meet down under the pier, or by its pylons. We are Wharf Rats after all...9:30am daily? I don't see any other Barcelo Riviera Maya AA.
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A Grateful morning to all. I was wondering if there are still meetings at half time of Dead &Co. shows?
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Will there be a Wharf Rat group at Riverbend next week?
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This Wharf Rat is tryin to go. I'll find the meeting by hook or by crook!
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I had just checked in at the Wharf Rat table at the last show in Chula Vista. The guy that was sitting behind the booth said a girl had noticed the table on her way to the bar. She said I've only been sober a week! Glad you were here to remind me........ Don't know if she lasted through the show but ya never know, sometimes sobriety is measured in minutes....
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I'll check back here to let you know if I win the ticket lottery. I'll need a meeting. Years ago while staying in Playa Del Carmen I was walking down a side street and found an Alano Club. It was in Spanish which I;m not towell versed but I understood what they were sayun'. Traeted me like a long lost brother.
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Never saw the band. By the time I became an avid listener it was too late. Thus, not really a Wharf Rat as such... Just wanted to share that my listening to masses of Grateful Dead is a huge part of my sobriety. Wishing you all a blessed and sober day.

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but I think you'll find they're still at shows and you'd be welcome. People with a better clue, please say more.
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Heading to Hollywood for two days of the Dead in June. Looking for some good meetings on tuesday before the show.

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Hi-Ho friends and neighbors! CMHAZ -GoodAZDead here from Phoenix. Just celebrated 33 years of Drink & Dope-Free sobriety. It's never easy, but it does get easier. "Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right..."

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Now more than ever I love Wharf Rat. Each time I listen to it I learn somethung new about the song. What’s amazing about Wharf Rat is the community and deep sense of connection it has with so many people. When you are feeling low we are here for you. My favorite part- I’ll get up and fly away!

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I'll see if I can find out.
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Hello Friends- Big week/weekend ahead for Bay Area and was able at last minute to pic up a tix for final show: Now the big question: Will there be any W.Rats meeting up in person prior to or during the night of music? If so how would a person in recovery meet up? Have to say watching the thinking process prior to the show: IE: stay sober no matter what, etc. Thx for reply. Best- windysuisun