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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

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  • stoltzfus
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    worth your time also 4/19/82
  • SkullTrip
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    Seriously, what's with all the name calling? Taste in anything is subjective, especially when it comes to music, art, film, etc. It's all about how the music resonates with the individual. If it makes you feel good, then it's doing its job. Again, Jerry's often quoted licorice analogy comes to mind. Some dig black, some dig red, some dig both, and others don't dig licorice at all. The need for validation through a sense of sameness is one of the primary causes of human discontent and unhappiness. Just because you don't see it or hear it the same as someone else, doesn't make them wrong or stupid, etc. Personally, this show is like nails on a chalkboard to my ears. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate its historical relevance, nor does it negate anyone else's overall appreciation for it. I'm on this site to experience different perspectives, find out about shows that I'm unfamiliar with, and learn things about the Dead that I may not already know. But the immaturity and insecurity of name calling honestly kills the vibe for me. Just saying.
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    Thank you for the sober, well written post. Your objectivity tells me your opinions are likely reliable. Any post that is all positive or all negative tends to just be unreliable noise by era hard-liners with an axe to grind. Era rhetoric gets absurd, sometimes comical.
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    Mcgrupp and a band beyond description
    ...and yet the descriptions NEVER stop,,, never stop, never stop, never stop....
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    Yet another reminder why I can't get into that band. Happy for all of you do enjoy them tho'
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    Don't believe the hyperbole either way. This show is not the best show with amazing sound and definitive versions of songs, but it is also not a terrible show with awful sound that is unlistenable. My opinion is this: I like receiving a show from an otherwise little tapped era; the sound is not crystal clear like many 70s or late 80s recordings but it is much better than the Alpine 82 Dick's Picks and the Spectrum 82 Road Trips; and the performance is generally just fine-- again, not definitive, but good enough. In brief, I like adding this show to my collection. Songs that stuck out as good versions to me on this recording: I love the Wang Dang Doodle opener and the Jack Straw that follows is good enough. I always like Minglewood and the Deal closer is a scorcher. The Help-Slip-Frank is solid (not better than any in 76 or 77 though), I think the Estimated is lackluster and the Eyes is rushed. The jam and space segments are interesting. The jam in Throwing Stones I will describe as 'Chaos.' I am not sure what is happening there-- I haven't listened to early versions of it, so maybe this is the norm for the era? Regardless, that 'solo' is just noise to me. Maybe another listen will reveal more. The Black Peter has some really rough vocals. I agree with Slow Noodle, two Black Peters released in the past year run circles around this one. Jerry's vocals are pretty bad here. BP is not my favorite tune, but the version on Berkeley 72 made me sit up and take notice-- just an exquisite version, beautiful and perfect in every way. This one, not so much. I will probably listen to this show sometimes and as I said earlier-- good to have a decent show from an era without many releases.
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    Agreed - but '83 had more great MOMENTS or sets than complete, great "shows". Brilliant peaks followed by lotsa murky valleys... Jerry's '83 uninspired heroin drenched brain, morbid obesity/lack of stamina and voice, and general grumpy-cat staring-emptily-over-my-belly-at-just-the-tips-of-my-wallabees-over-my-glasses-teetering-on-the-end-of-my-nose demeanor made "inspired complete shows" mostly a thing of the past. But there are some amazing '83 nuggets for sure. The '83 TTATS show (10/21/83 in Woostah!!!) is a goody! I attended 10/15/83 (my 2nd show) with the St. Stephen and the RIPPING Big RxR Blues, but honestly much of that show (generally considered one of the years best) plods along unremarkably. Kinda like watching Sinatra in his later years - yes some inspired moments and glimpses of the old charisma (being reaaaally generous on the charisma based on my comment that ends my first paragraph), but from an execution standpoint just a shadow of their former glory.
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    First I want to once again thank you guys for the hard work and great care obviously put into the Dave's Picks Volume 27 release. I appreciate the release on a historical level, as there are not many early 1980s shows in my collection. With that said,I had to take a break from East Coast shows between fall 1980 through 1984. My first show in a while, and I believe it was in October 1984 at Brendan Byrne in East Rutherford was a bit of an upset. In those days, there was a ticket service called Ticketron, and I bought a ticket on the day of the first show,rented a car, and drove out to Jersey.The seat was right to the side of Jerry, and was stunned when the band came out by his physical appearance, and demeanor. This was not the Garcia I last saw at Nassau in May 1980. Something was wrong.Don't need to elaborate any further, but with that said I think this release is important in context that it reflects the changes happening with the band in regard to live performances.In the end, glad to be a subscriber, and appreciate every release! Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the summer...
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    I just mentioned my second show, and Dennis (the guy asking for an end to the name-calling - what a stupid idiot ;) then mentions my first!! 4/16/83 with Looks Like Rain. This was one of my favorite songs and I was so happy they played it. But even as a 15-yr old newbie watching from center-ice, 8 rows up on the left side, I knew that they weren't "on" this night (LLRain WAS good, but I loved this song too much to be objective). 4/17/83, the next night, was better though sadly I wasn't there. I was HUGE into CSNY at the time and was stoked to see Stephen Stills sit in. Quite a first-show treat. Then my 2nd show I got the Hartford St. Stephen - the Gods were smiling on me, making sure to set the hook hard. And it's still there, though I really haven't listened to much Dead for a few months... breather....
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I too received that email from dead.net. A thorough decoding of the text tells us this will surely be Boreal Ridge Ski Resort, Donner Summit CA 1985. :D
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12/1/79
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Wasn't she a disco queen in the '70s & '80s?
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Who could ever forget that show? The Bad Girls -> I Know You Rider was so tight! But obviously the Estimated -> Hot Stuff -> Eyes -> Last Dance is what most remember. The post drums Truckin' -> On The Radio was a little sloppy, but fun. They really ended the 2nd set with a flurry as the Around & Around -> She Works Hard For The Money -> Turn On Your Lovelight was mind-bending. The Day Tripper encore is only notable, as it was the last time they played it.
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Now that we got that 83 show released, I think, and this is only my opinion mind you, but I think it's high time for a June 1970 release. June 5, 1970 Acoustic and Electric FW There's probably room for filler from June 4th and/or June 6th...this three-night run was one for the ages. Garcia, so youthful, his voice resonated to the stars where we all dance and twirl in the 21st century. Of course, not sure what all those Hollywood executives feel about spinning multiple nights on one release. Hmmm... WE ALL know Dick Latvala, during his famed tenure used to release partial shows, just to fill a bootleg. Common sense?!?
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Been really entrenched in '83 (as always) and '79. Brent's playing in the Fall of '79 and the band responding accordingly? C'mon...that stuff is trans dimensional. Not enough of it floating around out there. I read a few posts down stating a request of 12/1/79. I have only had a tape of the second set of that show. I still love that show. Beyond stoked to see what we get!
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It's always time for a '69 show.
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Based on absolutely zero evidence . . . I'm guessing spring 79. The last three picks were all fall shows, so why not spring ? 5/4/79 is a good one -- it was a RSD release awhile back. Something from around that time +/- a month. 4/20/84 would also make for a great Pick one of these days. Just because of the date, I bet it would break the record for fastest sellout.
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Rocktober 2018 Rhino/Grateful Dead vinyl releases... -October 2nd- * Grateful Dead – Steal Your Face – 2-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. * Grateful Dead – Wake Of The Flood – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. -October 9th- * Grateful Dead – Blues For Allah – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. * Grateful Dead – From The Mars Hotel – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. ... Rocktober 2018 vinyl releases every Tuesday in October, check out the full list of band releases... :)
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Since the very last pick was 83, we are not likely to see another Brent era show for a year or two. I would guess another from the returned to the vault batch.
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When I was out having a few beers this past Friday night (October 5) my change came back as a $5 bill from 1985. And this while reading dead.net. So there you have it... indubitably an '85 release will be next!
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When I was out having a few beers this past Friday night (October 5) my change came back as a $5 bill from 1985. And this while reading dead.net. So there you have it... indubitably an '85 release will be next!
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I wouldn't mind any of the suggestions here (I never do). Any '79 is certainly overdue, and 1991 could use some updates to the catalog. I don't think we're going to get a Brent ('79 included) show given the last pick, I guess 1991 is possible. Like I've said before, this year of picks has been somewhat underwhelming. There has always been a tent-pole show (or two!), and I don't think this year has had one yet. You could make argument for 11/6/77, but really it's just the Truckin' (and Passenger and TMNS) that light things up. The double '71 release has two great Other Ones, but I think the rest of the shows are interchangeable with several other Fall '71 releases (although superior to 2017's 1971 duet). 9/2/83 was welcome as it gave us the first official mid-80s show in YEARS and the first official mid 80s HSF yet. But while it's a good pick for the era, I don't think anyone would hold it up as a tent pole show. I think we need something on the level of 1/22/73, 4/2/73, 7/17/76, 2/24/74, 11/17/72, 11/17/72 to complete 2018. Given the previous picks and the box set, I think the years most likely to yield such a show are 1969-1970, 1972 (less likely with DaP 24 from this era), and 1976. Some genius on this board mentioned 11/7/69 with 11/2/69 as filler as a suggestion. I think I would welcome that with open arms!
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The only pick I really didn't care for this year so far was 11-6-77. It was never a tape I spun much of from the 77 choices I have/had. Abq and Boise are both solid damned shows. I was spinning 9/2/83 long before it was slated for any release and I can't say enough how much I dig the early 80's choices Dave's has offered us. I will definitely be renewing my subscription for next year. I have to figure that even if the choice doesn't ring a lofty bell with me initially, it will catch up to me eventually or I will catch up to IT, rather. Somebody said something about some '73 or some '76 shows. I think if they chose from either year it would more than likely be '76 given that they just put out that beautiful PNW Box. I only picked up Believe It If You Need It but I have all of the shows so it isn't too much a bummer. I always love the art work, the liner notes and the remastered sound but I live on a major budget. Any rumors on the forthcoming release will be met with appreciation and maybe light heckling/jest.
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I like this release a lot. The mix is not as good as a 16 track, but you can hear all the instruments, and the band is playing well. Looking forward the that 1979 release next month :>
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You misunderstand me. I also believe that DaP26 and 27 are damn solid shows. Worthy of release and fun listens. I was just pointing out that (in my opinion and my opinion only) that 2018 was lacking a "big show" from the DaP series. By this (arbitrary) designation I mean show of similar stature to 5/25/77, 11/17/73, 11/17/72, 11/4/77, 2/24/74, 7/19/74, 7/17/76, 4/2/73, and 1/22/78. Heck, I'd argue that this years selections are still below 7/31/74, 10/22/71, 2/2/70, 11/30/80, 5/14/74, 12/12/69, 3/28/73, and 8/25/72.
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For me the biggest surprise of the year thus far is that the series had a release from a year more recent than 1981. Not unhappy with the shows thus far but have big expectations for the year ender!
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from either Pigpen or Bruce, show TC some love from 1969...stay away from those reels unless they are Plangent processed before Norman gets his hands on them.
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So looking forward to D.P. 28 but, I almost hate the "NOT knowing" part! I guess I'm just too impatient but I can't help but think they're more of us who feel the same way! I mean how often do people spend $100 without knowing what they are getting???? Food for thought anyways. Oh well I guess I'll wait the 3 weeks and quit my b#%&*ing I mean, they are after all, GRATEFUL DEAD!!!!!
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Sorry, I cannot reveal this information. I am not an employee of Rhino Records, Warner Music Group, the Mexicali pressing plant, or any other party involved in the distribution of this release. I did get the info from an employee, though. Clues: 1.) Brent Mydland is not in the Grateful Dead at this time. 2.) He did not meet any of the players that would form the band "Silver." 3.) The United States of America.
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1. 66-78, 90-95 2. Who is “he,” here? The keyboardist? If so, we know it’s not Hornsby. I also imagine that Keith and Vince may have met members of Silver at one point. That I guess leaves us with Pig Pen? 69er?! (as some have been saying/hoping). 3. Sort of at a loss on clue 3. The show is in USA? Or, maybe American Beauty? Well, we know it was released November 1st; also that Dave’s Pick 28 will be released November 1st. I don’t know, so...let’s say November 70, maybe one from the Cap shows?
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Uh-huh, so he both is and is not BM? At any rate, I also dig 76....
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It's time for 1970, preferably June OR, possibly better, any pristine board from 1969...I'm thinking any of those April 69 shows would send us all into orbit
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Could United States of America relate to the band from 1968? Possible show from '68? Or that the album was from a 1972 show that was not Europe 72, but rather US 1972?
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Could United States of America relate to the band from 1968? Possible show from '68? Or that the album was from a 1972 show that was not Europe 72, but rather US 1972?
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Could United States of America relate to the band from 1968? Possible show from '68? Or that the album was from a 1972 show that was not Europe 72, but rather US 1972?
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Ok, so if Brent wasn't in Silver, and they formed in 1971..... The clue is United States of America... how does that tie to a concert pre-1971? ?? Oh... The only LP released by The United States Of America was in 1968.
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Do not know on the clues, but I can say 1970 is, by far, the most under represented great GD year, in terms of # of live releases & live discs. IMHO, the top GD years would be: 1969, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '76, '77, '78, '89, and '90. YMMV. # live releases/discs by my unofficial count, box = release of 5+ discs. 1972: 16.00/119.25, 1 box set 1977: 15.00/72.50, 3 boxes+DP#29 1990: 10.32/64.07, 2 boxes 1973: 11.50/51.00, 1.5 boxes 1974: 13.50/49.00, 0.5 box+GDMSDTRK 1978: 10.00/41.00, 1 box+ Cl Wint 1971: 13.00/36.12, 0 boxes (L&Gent) 1969: 9.50/31.90, 1 box 1976: 8.00/28.00, 0 boxes 1989: 8.68/27.93, 2 boxes 1970: 9.50/20.83, 0 boxes Read there is nothing in the Vault after June. Is that true?
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Do not know on the clues, but I can say 1970 is, by far, the most under represented great GD year, in terms of # of live releases & live discs. IMHO, the top GD years would be: 1969, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '76, '77, '78, '89, and '90. YMMV. # live releases/discs by my unofficial count, box = release of 5+ discs. 1972: 16.00/119.25, 1 box set 1977: 15.00/72.50, 3 boxes+DP#29 1990: 10.32/64.07, 2 boxes 1973: 11.50/51.00, 1.5 boxes 1974: 13.50/49.00, 0.5 box+GDMSDTRK 1978: 10.00/41.00, 1 box+ Cl Wint 1971: 13.00/36.12, 0 boxes (L&Gent) 1969: 9.50/31.90, 1 box 1976: 8.00/28.00, 0 boxes 1989: 8.68/27.93, 2 boxes 1970: 9.50/20.83, 0 boxes Read there is nothing in the Vault after June. Is that true?
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Yeah, sorry, that was where I was going with it. The band from California. Years active, 1967-68. Could be a tie in with the 50th anniversary of Anthem of the Sun.
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I am going with a twofer from 1968. I was listening to Dicks Picks 22 a couple days ago.. the sound was good, all things considered. I am guessing a twofer.. two segments making up three discs. The timing seems about right.. and we will get another Dark Star.
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Speculation here seems to have narrowed to 68 or 70. I'm still going with 70. 68 seems too spotty, too many missing and incomplete shows. Here's link to an interesting read on the "Missing 1968 Shows." On that page there's also links to 1969/1970. Seems like there's just a lot more SBDs from 1970. And yes, also seems like pretty much everything after June is missing from the vault. So, we looking at first half 1970??? http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2014/09/missing-1968-shows.html Then again, if ThomasVan is right, 68!
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4/21/70 with filler from 4/22/70.
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what about these: 4/26/68 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA 4/27/68 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA 4/28/68 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA Not even sure if these are available....
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Yes...I like your thinking: Boston Tea Party December 1969 Although Spring 69 was even more psychedelic...4/21 4/22 4/23 Things are heating up...and we'll know Fryday
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2/14,15/69, The Electric Factory a long defunct Philly venue was located at 22nd & Arch. I'm going with the USA clue or if I'm thinking outside the box I'd either go with 5/24/70 or 6/21/71 NOT USA venues. Oh the suspense, I'd still like to see 12/1/79 get the full Norman.
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3-9-8110-16-81 8-22-93 12-1-79 10-15-76 2-26-77 10-29-77 2-9-73 2-15-73 Something from Oct. or Nov. '72 would most definitely satisfy How about the 11-13-72 Board that can't happen?
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Not as a result of anything said the last few days.. I have an itch that either Dave's 28 or 29 will be summer to fall of 72, just because we are due and there are lots of worthy, unreleased shows from this period. Plus, it will beat the drum loudly for next years subscription sales.
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That one replaced the Mississippi/Ohio/Missouri Rivers clue. I don't know about the cover art - but that's easy - skeletons. Skeletons doing what? I like Tim McDonagh art both for Grateful Dead Productions and on his own. Check him out if you haven't already: www.mcdonaghillustration.com This Dave's Picks 28 will delight and disappoint, as it's nearly impossible to please everybody, we are a very diverse audience.
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Batdorf & Rodney were an early-1970s folk rock duo consisting of John Batdorf and Mark Rodney. The two began performing in the summer of 1970 in Las Vegas. They toured extensively with many of the most famous acts of the 1970s. Their tours included playing at Carnegie Hall. They issued three albums on three different labels between 1971 and 1975, logging two chart hits during their final year after signing with Arista Records. A track from their third album, "You Are a Song," written by Jim Weatherly, was released as a single and reached number 87 on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 during the summer of 1975. It also reached #19 on the Canadian Adult Contemporary chart. Their other hit, a non-album single, was an early version of "Somewhere in the Night," which reached number 69 in December of that year. Issued concurrently with Helen Reddy's version, the song became a Top 40 hit for her in 1976 and a Top 10 hit for Barry Manilow in 1979. Another song, "All I Need," reached the Canadian Adult Contemporary chart in 1973, peaking at #79. Batdorf & Rodney disbanded in 1975. Remaining with Arista, Batdorf soon formed the group Silver then released "Wham Bam" in 1976, the most successful single of his career, which reached #16 on the Billboard Hot 100. In 2008, the duo reunited to record an album titled Still Burnin'. ---- Silver was an American 1970s country rock band, best known for their 1976 pop hit "Wham Bam," written by country songwriter Rick Giles. Members of the group included John Batdorf (formerly of Batdorf & Rodney), lead vocals and guitar; Brent Mydland (later of the Grateful Dead), keyboards and vocals; Tom Leadon (brother of the Eagles' Bernie Leadon), bass guitar and vocals; Greg Collier, guitar and vocals; and Harry Stinson, drums and percussion. Phil Hartman designed the cover art for Silver, the quintet's only album. The band's recordings were released on the Arista record label. The single's title, "Wham Bam", was shown as "Wham Bam Shang-A-Lang" and peaked at #16 on the Billboard Hot 100 the week of October 2, 1976. It is ranked as the 70th biggest hit of 1976. Arista executives gave the band the song to record after concluding that none of the other tracks on the album they produced had single potential. Arista head Clive Davis himself co-produced the single with Tom Sellers; the rest of the album was produced by Sellers and Silver. Chicago radio superstation WLS, which gave "Wham Bam" much airplay, ranked the song as the 80th biggest hit of 1976. It peaked at number eight on their surveys of October 23 and 30, 1976. Arista released two further singles by the band, Musician (It's Not an Easy Life) and Memory which featured the non-album track So Much for the Past, written by Brent Mydland, on the B-side. The band can be heard in the 2017 Marvel Studios sequel film, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, as "Wham Bam Shang-A-Lang" is included on the movie's soundtrack.
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Keep an open mind, and learn to enjoy this show if you don't like it at 1st.
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