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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

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    I'll second that, Dennis. We're also not discussing the fate of Western civilization, we're discussing a band- a band beyond description?
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    Can we stop with the name calling? Let's assume nobody here is stupid and even if they are, the "smarter" ones should be smart enough and classy enough not to call them stupid. I've always agreed with the basic premise that all releases sound better than the cassettes I had. Maybe some people knew Betty and got tapes directly from her, but I got from a buddy, who got from unknown people that he met at shows. Is the recording of this show better or worse than others, of course. But I also go with the assumption that the "official" releases are the best available out there. True? I don't know, I just assume that. I'll take all official releases, it's the anal completist in me. On this release I like the Looks Like Rain, this is the closest to the greatest Rain ever done (4/16/83 Meadowland, NJ). Don't believe me, take a listen, Garcia's on fire in the last minute or two, his notes hit like raindrops at the moment it goes from a drizzle to a downpour. And Weir yelling is in perfect form (can't take no more fuckin rain today) https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-16.sbd.miller.28294.sbeok.flacf/gd8… Don't agree, then you're a fucking idiot :-) (notice I didn't say stupid :-)) I agree with whoever below that I seldom will listen to a whole show, but listen to "parts" and there is ALWAYS a good part. Finally, where is Jim (JiminMD), I'm assuming on vacation, but I still worry.
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    Agreed. But the recordings generally stink compared to the 70's offerings. Your comment totally ignores this fact. For each quote from someone saying the 80's had some great shows, there are 10 more quotes from Dick, Dave, and yes Blair Jackson questioning the 80's recordings' viability as official releases. Do you want to add some of those quotes to balance your comment, or should I?
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    No, I agree with you. And some of those patches are definitely sorta cringe-worthy. But as someone mentioned: they also highlight how much of a general improvement the sounds quality here is. Dave spoke (in the liner notes) about the "unfortunate at best" recordings from June 83 or in his words, "magnificent full shows for which no usable recording exists." My response was more so to snoone about the quality of the 83 performances (not the audio).
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    Hmm, so basically releases should be just pre-hiatus? So the 30-yr GD legacy is really about the first (less than, actually) decade? If the Dead were just a 9-year band, I would've stopped listening long ago. This is from Blair Jackson's Garcia bio: "Despite Garcia's plainly visible malaise, the Dead played better in 1983 than they had in 1982. In fact, they improved each year through the first half of the '80s, as if Garcia's deteriorating physical condition almost didn't matter." Of course we know he gets busted in Jan. 85 and (presumably) starts cleaning up. BJ continues, "The Dead's tours that summer and autumn [of 85] were unusually strong, with especially varied set lists, crisp and purposeful jamming and a higher level of energy onstage than anyone had seen in quite a while." No question, that summer of 85 is hot. And 89-90 is some of my absolutely favorite years. But so is 83-84, more so the more I listen to them. There's a sort of rushed (or is urgent the right word?), yet raw, 80s psychedelic sound. At the risk of hyperbole, it's the best, most energetic and raw sound since 73- so in nearly a decade.
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    Nice, balanced post on your review of DaP 27. Just thought I'd say it, 'cause it hit a lot of the same chords I was feeling after a few listens.
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    Are there any bad Bird Songs out there? This is one of those songs were it got better over time, in my opinion. 7/26/87 is great. Loser & Cassidy both also got better over time, in my opinion.
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    Stealing a quote from Jim Cramer
    “A subscription business is perhaps the most reliable and predictable form of revenue” I’m ready to subscribe to Dave’s Picks 2019!
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    Not saying it’s one of the best. But it is one that I always liked.
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    Yes, for only 11 minutes long, this is a very concise yet perfect Birdsong. Not only is the beginning of Jer's first solo great (the slinky "get ready" bends you mentioned), but check out the 2nd guitar solo at 9:15~... Jerry starts with a few building licks over several measures (once again, kinda of a "are you ready?...) until he reaches a peak, THEN resumes the soaring, bending "bird in flight" thing all over. I've said it before, but if you showed Mozart the general gist of "Birdsong", THIS is how he'd map it out: each part of solos seem to logically connect to the next.... intro>body>conclusion. Despite the fact that it's not long, never goes too far "out there", and the energy is controlled and deliberate, this version is simply stunning. Kind of like a perfectly mapped-out studio version that they executed live, flawlessly. One of my favorite GD tracks of all time. But I'm curious to hear your answer to icecrmconkid's question.... If this recording is a "1" out of 10, What '83 releases or other early/mid 80's recordings do you feel are better?
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

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I too received that email from dead.net. A thorough decoding of the text tells us this will surely be Boreal Ridge Ski Resort, Donner Summit CA 1985. :D
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12/1/79
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Wasn't she a disco queen in the '70s & '80s?
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Who could ever forget that show? The Bad Girls -> I Know You Rider was so tight! But obviously the Estimated -> Hot Stuff -> Eyes -> Last Dance is what most remember. The post drums Truckin' -> On The Radio was a little sloppy, but fun. They really ended the 2nd set with a flurry as the Around & Around -> She Works Hard For The Money -> Turn On Your Lovelight was mind-bending. The Day Tripper encore is only notable, as it was the last time they played it.
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Now that we got that 83 show released, I think, and this is only my opinion mind you, but I think it's high time for a June 1970 release. June 5, 1970 Acoustic and Electric FW There's probably room for filler from June 4th and/or June 6th...this three-night run was one for the ages. Garcia, so youthful, his voice resonated to the stars where we all dance and twirl in the 21st century. Of course, not sure what all those Hollywood executives feel about spinning multiple nights on one release. Hmmm... WE ALL know Dick Latvala, during his famed tenure used to release partial shows, just to fill a bootleg. Common sense?!?
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Been really entrenched in '83 (as always) and '79. Brent's playing in the Fall of '79 and the band responding accordingly? C'mon...that stuff is trans dimensional. Not enough of it floating around out there. I read a few posts down stating a request of 12/1/79. I have only had a tape of the second set of that show. I still love that show. Beyond stoked to see what we get!
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It's always time for a '69 show.
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Based on absolutely zero evidence . . . I'm guessing spring 79. The last three picks were all fall shows, so why not spring ? 5/4/79 is a good one -- it was a RSD release awhile back. Something from around that time +/- a month. 4/20/84 would also make for a great Pick one of these days. Just because of the date, I bet it would break the record for fastest sellout.
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Rocktober 2018 Rhino/Grateful Dead vinyl releases... -October 2nd- * Grateful Dead – Steal Your Face – 2-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. * Grateful Dead – Wake Of The Flood – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. -October 9th- * Grateful Dead – Blues For Allah – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. * Grateful Dead – From The Mars Hotel – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. ... Rocktober 2018 vinyl releases every Tuesday in October, check out the full list of band releases... :)
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Since the very last pick was 83, we are not likely to see another Brent era show for a year or two. I would guess another from the returned to the vault batch.
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When I was out having a few beers this past Friday night (October 5) my change came back as a $5 bill from 1985. And this while reading dead.net. So there you have it... indubitably an '85 release will be next!
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When I was out having a few beers this past Friday night (October 5) my change came back as a $5 bill from 1985. And this while reading dead.net. So there you have it... indubitably an '85 release will be next!
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I wouldn't mind any of the suggestions here (I never do). Any '79 is certainly overdue, and 1991 could use some updates to the catalog. I don't think we're going to get a Brent ('79 included) show given the last pick, I guess 1991 is possible. Like I've said before, this year of picks has been somewhat underwhelming. There has always been a tent-pole show (or two!), and I don't think this year has had one yet. You could make argument for 11/6/77, but really it's just the Truckin' (and Passenger and TMNS) that light things up. The double '71 release has two great Other Ones, but I think the rest of the shows are interchangeable with several other Fall '71 releases (although superior to 2017's 1971 duet). 9/2/83 was welcome as it gave us the first official mid-80s show in YEARS and the first official mid 80s HSF yet. But while it's a good pick for the era, I don't think anyone would hold it up as a tent pole show. I think we need something on the level of 1/22/73, 4/2/73, 7/17/76, 2/24/74, 11/17/72, 11/17/72 to complete 2018. Given the previous picks and the box set, I think the years most likely to yield such a show are 1969-1970, 1972 (less likely with DaP 24 from this era), and 1976. Some genius on this board mentioned 11/7/69 with 11/2/69 as filler as a suggestion. I think I would welcome that with open arms!
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The only pick I really didn't care for this year so far was 11-6-77. It was never a tape I spun much of from the 77 choices I have/had. Abq and Boise are both solid damned shows. I was spinning 9/2/83 long before it was slated for any release and I can't say enough how much I dig the early 80's choices Dave's has offered us. I will definitely be renewing my subscription for next year. I have to figure that even if the choice doesn't ring a lofty bell with me initially, it will catch up to me eventually or I will catch up to IT, rather. Somebody said something about some '73 or some '76 shows. I think if they chose from either year it would more than likely be '76 given that they just put out that beautiful PNW Box. I only picked up Believe It If You Need It but I have all of the shows so it isn't too much a bummer. I always love the art work, the liner notes and the remastered sound but I live on a major budget. Any rumors on the forthcoming release will be met with appreciation and maybe light heckling/jest.
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I like this release a lot. The mix is not as good as a 16 track, but you can hear all the instruments, and the band is playing well. Looking forward the that 1979 release next month :>
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You misunderstand me. I also believe that DaP26 and 27 are damn solid shows. Worthy of release and fun listens. I was just pointing out that (in my opinion and my opinion only) that 2018 was lacking a "big show" from the DaP series. By this (arbitrary) designation I mean show of similar stature to 5/25/77, 11/17/73, 11/17/72, 11/4/77, 2/24/74, 7/19/74, 7/17/76, 4/2/73, and 1/22/78. Heck, I'd argue that this years selections are still below 7/31/74, 10/22/71, 2/2/70, 11/30/80, 5/14/74, 12/12/69, 3/28/73, and 8/25/72.
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For me the biggest surprise of the year thus far is that the series had a release from a year more recent than 1981. Not unhappy with the shows thus far but have big expectations for the year ender!
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from either Pigpen or Bruce, show TC some love from 1969...stay away from those reels unless they are Plangent processed before Norman gets his hands on them.
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So looking forward to D.P. 28 but, I almost hate the "NOT knowing" part! I guess I'm just too impatient but I can't help but think they're more of us who feel the same way! I mean how often do people spend $100 without knowing what they are getting???? Food for thought anyways. Oh well I guess I'll wait the 3 weeks and quit my b#%&*ing I mean, they are after all, GRATEFUL DEAD!!!!!
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Sorry, I cannot reveal this information. I am not an employee of Rhino Records, Warner Music Group, the Mexicali pressing plant, or any other party involved in the distribution of this release. I did get the info from an employee, though. Clues: 1.) Brent Mydland is not in the Grateful Dead at this time. 2.) He did not meet any of the players that would form the band "Silver." 3.) The United States of America.
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1. 66-78, 90-95 2. Who is “he,” here? The keyboardist? If so, we know it’s not Hornsby. I also imagine that Keith and Vince may have met members of Silver at one point. That I guess leaves us with Pig Pen? 69er?! (as some have been saying/hoping). 3. Sort of at a loss on clue 3. The show is in USA? Or, maybe American Beauty? Well, we know it was released November 1st; also that Dave’s Pick 28 will be released November 1st. I don’t know, so...let’s say November 70, maybe one from the Cap shows?
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Uh-huh, so he both is and is not BM? At any rate, I also dig 76....
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It's time for 1970, preferably June OR, possibly better, any pristine board from 1969...I'm thinking any of those April 69 shows would send us all into orbit
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Could United States of America relate to the band from 1968? Possible show from '68? Or that the album was from a 1972 show that was not Europe 72, but rather US 1972?
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Could United States of America relate to the band from 1968? Possible show from '68? Or that the album was from a 1972 show that was not Europe 72, but rather US 1972?
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Could United States of America relate to the band from 1968? Possible show from '68? Or that the album was from a 1972 show that was not Europe 72, but rather US 1972?
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Ok, so if Brent wasn't in Silver, and they formed in 1971..... The clue is United States of America... how does that tie to a concert pre-1971? ?? Oh... The only LP released by The United States Of America was in 1968.
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Do not know on the clues, but I can say 1970 is, by far, the most under represented great GD year, in terms of # of live releases & live discs. IMHO, the top GD years would be: 1969, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '76, '77, '78, '89, and '90. YMMV. # live releases/discs by my unofficial count, box = release of 5+ discs. 1972: 16.00/119.25, 1 box set 1977: 15.00/72.50, 3 boxes+DP#29 1990: 10.32/64.07, 2 boxes 1973: 11.50/51.00, 1.5 boxes 1974: 13.50/49.00, 0.5 box+GDMSDTRK 1978: 10.00/41.00, 1 box+ Cl Wint 1971: 13.00/36.12, 0 boxes (L&Gent) 1969: 9.50/31.90, 1 box 1976: 8.00/28.00, 0 boxes 1989: 8.68/27.93, 2 boxes 1970: 9.50/20.83, 0 boxes Read there is nothing in the Vault after June. Is that true?
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Do not know on the clues, but I can say 1970 is, by far, the most under represented great GD year, in terms of # of live releases & live discs. IMHO, the top GD years would be: 1969, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '76, '77, '78, '89, and '90. YMMV. # live releases/discs by my unofficial count, box = release of 5+ discs. 1972: 16.00/119.25, 1 box set 1977: 15.00/72.50, 3 boxes+DP#29 1990: 10.32/64.07, 2 boxes 1973: 11.50/51.00, 1.5 boxes 1974: 13.50/49.00, 0.5 box+GDMSDTRK 1978: 10.00/41.00, 1 box+ Cl Wint 1971: 13.00/36.12, 0 boxes (L&Gent) 1969: 9.50/31.90, 1 box 1976: 8.00/28.00, 0 boxes 1989: 8.68/27.93, 2 boxes 1970: 9.50/20.83, 0 boxes Read there is nothing in the Vault after June. Is that true?
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Yeah, sorry, that was where I was going with it. The band from California. Years active, 1967-68. Could be a tie in with the 50th anniversary of Anthem of the Sun.
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I am going with a twofer from 1968. I was listening to Dicks Picks 22 a couple days ago.. the sound was good, all things considered. I am guessing a twofer.. two segments making up three discs. The timing seems about right.. and we will get another Dark Star.
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Speculation here seems to have narrowed to 68 or 70. I'm still going with 70. 68 seems too spotty, too many missing and incomplete shows. Here's link to an interesting read on the "Missing 1968 Shows." On that page there's also links to 1969/1970. Seems like there's just a lot more SBDs from 1970. And yes, also seems like pretty much everything after June is missing from the vault. So, we looking at first half 1970??? http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2014/09/missing-1968-shows.html Then again, if ThomasVan is right, 68!
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4/21/70 with filler from 4/22/70.
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what about these: 4/26/68 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA 4/27/68 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA 4/28/68 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA Not even sure if these are available....
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Yes...I like your thinking: Boston Tea Party December 1969 Although Spring 69 was even more psychedelic...4/21 4/22 4/23 Things are heating up...and we'll know Fryday
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2/14,15/69, The Electric Factory a long defunct Philly venue was located at 22nd & Arch. I'm going with the USA clue or if I'm thinking outside the box I'd either go with 5/24/70 or 6/21/71 NOT USA venues. Oh the suspense, I'd still like to see 12/1/79 get the full Norman.
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3-9-8110-16-81 8-22-93 12-1-79 10-15-76 2-26-77 10-29-77 2-9-73 2-15-73 Something from Oct. or Nov. '72 would most definitely satisfy How about the 11-13-72 Board that can't happen?
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Not as a result of anything said the last few days.. I have an itch that either Dave's 28 or 29 will be summer to fall of 72, just because we are due and there are lots of worthy, unreleased shows from this period. Plus, it will beat the drum loudly for next years subscription sales.
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That one replaced the Mississippi/Ohio/Missouri Rivers clue. I don't know about the cover art - but that's easy - skeletons. Skeletons doing what? I like Tim McDonagh art both for Grateful Dead Productions and on his own. Check him out if you haven't already: www.mcdonaghillustration.com This Dave's Picks 28 will delight and disappoint, as it's nearly impossible to please everybody, we are a very diverse audience.
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Batdorf & Rodney were an early-1970s folk rock duo consisting of John Batdorf and Mark Rodney. The two began performing in the summer of 1970 in Las Vegas. They toured extensively with many of the most famous acts of the 1970s. Their tours included playing at Carnegie Hall. They issued three albums on three different labels between 1971 and 1975, logging two chart hits during their final year after signing with Arista Records. A track from their third album, "You Are a Song," written by Jim Weatherly, was released as a single and reached number 87 on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 during the summer of 1975. It also reached #19 on the Canadian Adult Contemporary chart. Their other hit, a non-album single, was an early version of "Somewhere in the Night," which reached number 69 in December of that year. Issued concurrently with Helen Reddy's version, the song became a Top 40 hit for her in 1976 and a Top 10 hit for Barry Manilow in 1979. Another song, "All I Need," reached the Canadian Adult Contemporary chart in 1973, peaking at #79. Batdorf & Rodney disbanded in 1975. Remaining with Arista, Batdorf soon formed the group Silver then released "Wham Bam" in 1976, the most successful single of his career, which reached #16 on the Billboard Hot 100. In 2008, the duo reunited to record an album titled Still Burnin'. ---- Silver was an American 1970s country rock band, best known for their 1976 pop hit "Wham Bam," written by country songwriter Rick Giles. Members of the group included John Batdorf (formerly of Batdorf & Rodney), lead vocals and guitar; Brent Mydland (later of the Grateful Dead), keyboards and vocals; Tom Leadon (brother of the Eagles' Bernie Leadon), bass guitar and vocals; Greg Collier, guitar and vocals; and Harry Stinson, drums and percussion. Phil Hartman designed the cover art for Silver, the quintet's only album. The band's recordings were released on the Arista record label. The single's title, "Wham Bam", was shown as "Wham Bam Shang-A-Lang" and peaked at #16 on the Billboard Hot 100 the week of October 2, 1976. It is ranked as the 70th biggest hit of 1976. Arista executives gave the band the song to record after concluding that none of the other tracks on the album they produced had single potential. Arista head Clive Davis himself co-produced the single with Tom Sellers; the rest of the album was produced by Sellers and Silver. Chicago radio superstation WLS, which gave "Wham Bam" much airplay, ranked the song as the 80th biggest hit of 1976. It peaked at number eight on their surveys of October 23 and 30, 1976. Arista released two further singles by the band, Musician (It's Not an Easy Life) and Memory which featured the non-album track So Much for the Past, written by Brent Mydland, on the B-side. The band can be heard in the 2017 Marvel Studios sequel film, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, as "Wham Bam Shang-A-Lang" is included on the movie's soundtrack.
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Keep an open mind, and learn to enjoy this show if you don't like it at 1st.
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