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    Dave's Picks Volume 28: Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ, 6/17/76

    This year's Dave's Picks series comes to a close just as the band's getting back together again in '76. By the time the Grateful Dead hit New Jersey’s Capitol Theatre - for the very first time - on 6/17/76, they were buzzing from their reunion, armed with new and revived material, the Rhythm Devils reformed with the mischievous Mickey Hart once again behind the kit. They'd skived off the unwieldy Wall of Sound and scaled back the venues from cavernous arenas to intimate theatres. Quite the treat!

    During the first set, the Dead's playing was nuanced ("Cold Rain And Snow"), detailed ("Looks Like Rain"), and intricate ("The Music Never Stopped"); the singing struck softly ("Row Jimmy") and raised hairs ("Ship Of Fools"). But it’s the big barreling energy of the second set you’ll want to brace yourself for, replete with a disco'd "Dancing In The Streets," a low-down funky “Help”>”Slip”>”Franklin's” and a wind 'em up to wind down "Let It Grow">"Wharf Rat">"Around and Around." Can you keep up? There's only one way to find out.

    This complete show, balanced out with a couple of bonus tracks from 6/23/76 and 6/28/76, was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Dave's Picks Volume 28 is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    Grab a copy before they're gone, gone, gone.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • simonrob
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    When something is wrong...

    The recent epidemic of malfunctioning discs should not be ignored or dismissed with comments like "It will all come good in the end." It should not have gone so badly wrong in the first place and Rhino should be left in no doubt that their market finds this unacceptable.

    Whether or not it has anything to do with cost cutting is something Rhino is unlikely to divulge. That the discs are noticeably thinner and more flexible than the norm and that they are made in Mexico may or may not contribute to the problem, but most sentient beings could put 2 and 2 together and get 4 as the answer.

    To dismiss complaining about this situation as endless whining seems so absurd that it seems aimed purely at provoking a reaction. I hesitate to use the "T-word" but how else should it be described.

    My message to Rhino is: Give us quality products for our money. Surely this is not too much to ask?. What may be too much to ask is for the elusive Dr. Rhino to post an explanation of what has gone amiss recently, but it would be a nice gesture to those having so much trouble trying to resolve issues that they have with recent releases that came to a head with Dave's Picks Volume 28.

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    In praise of speaking out

    As I understand it, the people who speak out against receiving a poor quality service make more of a positive contribution to the culture surrounding the product in question than those who don't. Surely, if a profit making organisation can make more profit by cutting costs, they will do so. If, in cutting costs, the quality of the product deteriorates, then it is up to everyone who purchases that product to point out what has happened, with a view to rectifying the situation. If they care about what they are buying, that is.
    Hopefully we have got way past the point where we are mere passive recipients.

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    Happy Day After New Year everyone!!....

    .... sorry I'm late, but to say I tied one on New Year's Eve would be an understatement. Didn't wake up until noon yesterday, and no, I didn't wake up to find out that I was the eyes of the world. I woke up looking for my Excedrin. Here's to a grate 2019 for everyone! Dave's Picks so far sure don't hurt very long..... shameless plug into this!!....
    https://youtu.be/r0oY7OEg4Ik
    ....the chills start at the 15:00 mark. The chills peak at 16:45. There's an I Know You Rider in there trying to escape. Sploooooosh....then it gets really dark, and really weird. I couldn't have asked for anything more.

  • DeadVikes
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    Where's Bolo?

    Have not seen a post from Bolo in a long time. Maybe concides with this release and the defective CDs?

  • Trainwrecked
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    It's your incessant complaining Sam

    Lol, no I don't work for Rhino. But that's telling, that you think a rhino employee would talk to a customer like that. It just shows how out of touch you are, and belligerent toward the system. The reason I posted my comment is because you are a drag. If it were one time that would be one thing, but you complain about everything, all the time, multiple times. That's reason number one that I posted. You are a buzz kill.

    Reason number two is that I don't want you to f*** it up for those of us who don't think that the occasional exchanging of discs is worth sandbagging the organization that brings us all of this great music. It has never taken me more than an email thread to resolve a product defect. I'm talking mere minutes. You on the other hand make it sound like they're pulling your fingernails out, repeatedly, about the same damn thing. I consider myself a stakeholder and you drive down the stock every time you shoot off your loud mouth. So no need to guess about my motives, you have them right here.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Caveat emptor

    Included on Dick’s Picks to let you know that they weren’t studio recordings and the tapes might not be in the best condition.
    Probably should have used it on the PNW Box to warn that Wall of Sound shows often start with fiddling of the controls to get it just exactly perfect. Seems that a lot of people think they have defective discs because the vocals drop out.

    Now disc skipping, that’s a legitimate defect.

    A new caveat emptor is now needed to warn that your CDs might contain skips.
    My replacements of DaP28 CD3 are supposedly in transit but, based on the post from Judysparty, I’m wondering about the quality of the redo. If it still skips on Let It Grow then that would suggest that the negative used for pressing is defective and wasn’t replaced.
    At this point I wonder if they even still physically stamp a blank, or if they just bought a couple hundred duplicators and now just burn discs.

    My past defects:
    5-5-77 CD2
    8-24-72 CD3

    Golden Road and Beyond Description Boxes (I didn’t try to get replacements):
    Skull Fuck, Dead Set, and another that I don’t remember at this moment.

    And a weird one with Road Trips v1n2+bonus where it plays fine on the stereo but has many skips when copied to a hard drive. I used two different computers and burners and both copies had skips and dropouts, but in different places. After making 5 copies I was able to piece together the good fragments and get a copy on my music player.

    Rockin’ the Rhein:
    CD3 was missing.

    Other people have reported other problems over the years that I never experienced. But, it seems that the frequency and overall number of defects is increasing.
    That’s not a good sign.

    I forgot who said it below, the box cutter blues may have been annoying, but at least the CDs were not defective.

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    I was acknowledging a previous post and I also have been buying literally hundreds of discs and I can only go by what has transpired in the past with what is transpiring now. So, you do what you want to, no one told you to do anything that you don't want to do. You go ahead and blindly purchase your product and I will wait till the reviews come in and we will see who is the happier for it. I guess you have all the time in the world to chase defective disc replacements, I do not. I agree with you that most problems are corrected and Marye is the best person for getting that done. I also agree that you have every right to disagree with what I said, but your tone is rather harsh, do you work for rhino? I know in the past there were no problems with disc, then, all of a sudden, there are, what would you contribute that to? I never mentioned Mexico or inflated costs so where that came from is anybody's guess, I did state that I missed the good old days when Grateful Dead products were made in the USA, yes, and that is true, I do miss those days, but don't try and put words into the conversation that I never said. Also, if you don't think that rhino is making a rather substantial profit from these sales, than you are delusional. Finally, I stated that I would gladly pay more for a quality product, so no one was bitching about the cost, again, you jumped to your own conclusion which is way off base and just, well, wrong. I stand by what I said and if you don't like it, oh well, some folks just can't connect the dots as you put it. I do know one thing, I don't care what you think about my outlook or my grasp of reality, which, by the way, is your opinion, which is wrong again. I don't follow the limited 2 per order comment, but you started to ramble then and the rest is gibberish. I can tell by your demeanor that something I said pissed you off, might it have been the wall/bridge comment? Anyway, something I said upset you and for that I say sorry, but I call them like I see them. 2019 is going to be a great year for me, and my outlook is nothing but positive, and based in a brighter reality than you seem to have and I will continue to speak my mind even if you try and tear me down, "bro"

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    Yawn, give it a rest Sam

    You assume too much. Like for example, how do you know that the problem stems from the discs being made in Mexico is the reason there is a problem? You don't know that making them in the USA will solve anything. And how do you know that the defective disc issue resulted from a move to increase profit at Rhino (and NOT a move to prevent cost increase to the buyer?)

    I've purchased literally hundreds, probably over a thousand Grateful Dead discs from Rhino at this point, and have had very few problems. The problems I have had in the past have been resolved by either Customer Support, marye, or Dr. Rhino.

    Go ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face if you want, but I for one, recognize how fucking good we have it, to be able to purchase all of this music at normal prices. And the prices are normal, you just have to buy in bulk to make the system work. So don't bitch about their profit or what you're paying either.

    You see that sign that says "Limited 2 copies per order?" That's Rhino listening to the people, so get that straight in your head too bro.

    You'd be a much happier person with a more positive outlook, not to mention one that is better set in reality, because you do connect a lot of dots on assumption. Maybe 2019 will be a better one for you.

  • Strider 808808
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    January 2, 1970, Fillmore East was my first Grateful Dead concert. 49 years ago today. I remember it quite clearly. How much tickets cost ($4.50, $5.50), where our seats were, the light show, the opening bands, thus spake zarathustra, the scene on the street. "If I told you all that went down it would burn off both your ears". 12/31/81 was my first New Years Eve Dead concert. Wild times. Thank you Ken Kesey. As for the quote "If you remember the 60s you weren't there", is inaccurate and misleading. And I love Robin Williams and Grace Slick. As for defective discs, some of you remember the 1972 Rolling Stone interview with Jerry Garcia when he talked about defective Skull and Roses vinyl that skipped and how it pissed him off. The Dead have always stood for high quality. Get it together Rhino. Happy New Years.

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    Was my second NYE, the first one I had any idea what was going on (first show 12/31/80), and it was and is one of my all time favorites.
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Dave's Picks Volume 28: Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ, 6/17/76

This year's Dave's Picks series comes to a close just as the band's getting back together again in '76. By the time the Grateful Dead hit New Jersey’s Capitol Theatre - for the very first time - on 6/17/76, they were buzzing from their reunion, armed with new and revived material, the Rhythm Devils reformed with the mischievous Mickey Hart once again behind the kit. They'd skived off the unwieldy Wall of Sound and scaled back the venues from cavernous arenas to intimate theatres. Quite the treat!

During the first set, the Dead's playing was nuanced ("Cold Rain And Snow"), detailed ("Looks Like Rain"), and intricate ("The Music Never Stopped"); the singing struck softly ("Row Jimmy") and raised hairs ("Ship Of Fools"). But it’s the big barreling energy of the second set you’ll want to brace yourself for, replete with a disco'd "Dancing In The Streets," a low-down funky “Help”>”Slip”>”Franklin's” and a wind 'em up to wind down "Let It Grow">"Wharf Rat">"Around and Around." Can you keep up? There's only one way to find out.

This complete show, balanced out with a couple of bonus tracks from 6/23/76 and 6/28/76, was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Dave's Picks Volume 28 is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

Grab a copy before they're gone, gone, gone.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Listening to it sequentially is like eating an IBM machine.. it took me six months to fully digest it.

It gets mixed reviews, probably deservedly.. there are a few tent pole shows that make the whole thing worthwhile, and many absolutely killer shows that come in just under that bar. There are a few that might not be mandatory revisits, and the project created a precident where patches and cuts made their way into official releases which many were not used to. But once you get that behind you, it's the off the radar shows that seal the deal. 84, 87, 91, 85 and the later era shows come to mind (I think I left out some highlights..it's late). Even 86 has wind beneath it's sails.

I don't know if its a must have, but I still drink from that well regularly and still find surprises and new areas to explore. Expensive? Yes, but simply because there is so much there.. the per disc/ per show price is the same as it ever was.

Edit: I think the sound, excluding the shows where the masters were subpar (the cassette master years), is very good.

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No regrets here, that box is among the highlights of my collection. As Jim noted, it does take a while to fully digest, but there is a ton of good stuff there. I have listened to the shows from '69-'75 the most, multiple times each, followed by '77, 82, and '87, but I have listened to almost all the shows a couple times or more. The '82 show is probably the worst recording quality in the box, but the show itself is strong enough that the sound quality is no too distracting once I adjust to it, and the '69 Dreambowl show is, in my mind, neck and neck with 2/27/69 Fillmore West show, the source of the classic Darkstar on Live Dead. I could go on, but suffice it to say, it is full of good stuff. Arthur Morgan would approve.

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Summer 85 isn't exactly a secret, but I agree with Jim and others...some nice gems in this box to be found from the 80s. The 85 show is one I go back to more often that I would have thought. Actually the shows from 82-87 in general have been played a lot in my house. All great stuff.

....yes. He probably would, but you know he would steal it, not pay for it. I know a few of you are playing Red Dead Redemption 2. Simply the most incredible video game i have ever put my hands on. Rockstar pulled out all the stops on this one. All my horses are named after Dead songs. Now if you excuse me, i need to go brush Supplication and feed him some apples.

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I suspected I was not the only one on these threads that might be digging that game. Definitely a game that elevates video games to something more than they have been in the past. That western vibe puts me in the mood for some of the Dead's cowboy tunes.

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the inspiration for me to write my first sci fi short story, I was only 11, and it wasn't very long, but I still remember how his super hero's lit up my imagination, what a story teller. I was and am a huge fan of all things Marvel, I still remember when I was a kid going to the store and pulling those new issues off of that turning wire rack, I couldn't wait for the next issue, they were only a dime. Where does the time go...via con dios Mr. Lee.

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....I discovered comics. Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk, and on and on. And that's just Marvel. Still have a dozen long boxes of them. I'm younger than Unkle Sam, so in my day they were a 20¢.... I knew this day would come. Doesn't make it hurt any less. Excelsior to you. The Hugh Hefner and Jerry Garcia of comics. Godspeed Stan. Thanos ain't got shit on you. 💪

I think Dave does the best job when not only the release fills you with joy, but inspires you to spend more time with additional shows from the era. This release does exactly that (at least for me). I've done nothing but listen to shows from 1976 for the past 2 weeks. Been mostly spending time with the June shows but also listened to the Cow Palace NYE show the other night. Man, what a great show. Cool setlist, cool and different vibe to a few of the songs, a PITB that stands the test of time...and then out of seemingly nowhere, a Morning Dew that blows the roof off of an otherwise chilled out show. thanks Dave for sending me down this rabbit hole

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Finally got hold of DaP28, looking forward to listening, not listened to much 76 compared to most years.

#23 has to be the lowest number I'll ever get (I care about the numbers more than most, no idea why since they're pretty meaningless!), so that was a nice surprise.

Can't wait for the new year of DaP and another box on the way!

Hope everyone's well!

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I noticed you didn't mention the 1978 show from 30 Trips. Possibly the most overlooked show from the box. It ranks very high against other '78 shows, IMHO. Contains the only officially released Mississippi Half-Step from that year (and a damn good version of it). 17 minute Let It Grow. Also one of the best standalone versions of this tune, top 3 in my book. Killer keyboard work from my compadre Keith on They Love Each Other. Very nice Cassidy and Brown-Eyed Women (check out Jerry's solo). And that's just the first set. Solid Samson & Delilah, which benefits more than most from the Wolf; and one of the top 3 or 4 Estimated Prophets (complete with extended early solo from Jerry - almost 2 minutes of pure bliss there). Anything in 1978 after April was hit or miss, and they definitely hit on this one. Oodles better than the two shows on DP 25, to my ears anyway.

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Speaking of top versions of Estimated Prophet, yesterday I listened to 11-13-87, and that one went straight to the top. If this version isn't in your top 3-4 give it a listen and let me know what you think.

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Thanks for the reminder, I'll have to go back and give that '78 show another listen soon. That 30 Trips box has a ton of great stuff, particularly that awesome '73 show you referenced on the DaP 2019 thread.

Honestly, since the 30 Trips Box came out, which was right after I finished picking up the Europe '72 shows, there have been so many great releases that I haven't fully digested all of them. I've listened to it all at least a couple of times, but I don't think that I fully absorbed the details and intricacy of each show. I'm on about the 3rd or 4th listen of the PNW Box, that has been my primary dead listening since it came out, sometimes I can't get enough of that '73-'74 sound.

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Is that an official release? Driving right now, limited hands.

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Keithfan...that show features my all time favorite Samson.

Also, if not mistaken, there is a really wild Around & Around. Really high energy show - definitely worth everyone's time.

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No, not an official release..

I'd be surprised if VGuy wasn't there??? I will have to give that a listen too. If anyone wants it, (or anything else really that hasn't been released) send me a PM and we will figure out a way.

Free Phil stream tonight on Nugs.net. 8:00 PST.
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That is a cool profile picture.

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Thanks, took it a few days after seeing Dead and Co in Boulder last year, in canyonlands, trip of a lifetime. That second Boulder show was incredible start to finish. Apparently the one this year wasn't bad either. Great part of the world

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A tremendous picker and nice guy all around; at least one tune in common with Jerry: Magnificent Sanctuary Band

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Oh man..

I can't say Country is my thing, after a few Me and My Uncles.. I need a break..

But I had a lot of respect for Roy Clark. He was a great guitarist.

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yesterday's weather brought the NYC/NJ area to a standstill (thanks to poor planning...)

While I was stuck in the car however, I got some quality listening time in. I moved off my 76 phase and dove right into late fall 79. 11/5 & 12/1 were on my list yesterday. Man, I'd love to see more releases from this era (though the ones we have are pretty sweet).

Re country: also, not my thing, but I do love El Paso, mama tried, and big river in particular. MAMU was definitely done to death, but the versions from 1970 or so are pretty solid and always worth a listen...

To me, the year the Dead really got to grips with country , live, was 1971. The country songs, and country based songs they played at shows during 1969 and 1970 always sound a bit awkward to me. But in 1971, both in terms of singing and playing, the pieces all seemed to drop into place. And stayed there. Having said that, both Workingmans Dead and American Beauty are great albums. Its just that the songs on those albums didn't translate to the live arena straight away.

But I never really got into country music per se either. Not like I did with blues. When I realised that a lot of the music I liked was based on blues I started listening to as many real blues musicians-as opposed to rock musicians playing blues - as I could. This would be in the late 70s. Everything from the early 1920s onwards. For some reason, country music never captured my imagination in quite the same way.

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Not really a big country music fan, but some of it is essential. Johnny Cash for example has a number of classic songs, and really the entire Live At Folsom Prison album is essential in my view. Folsom Prison Blues is a masterpiece and the performance live at the prison is beyond compare, I can't play it too loud. And later on his take on Rusty Cage and Hurt Myself Today are just about perfect, especially his version of Hurt Myself Today which is haunting. And what about Boy Named Sue? Is there a song with a better story? Can you listen to that song and not feel something?

A turning point on my country music appreciation came when I was fiending on Grand Theft Auto V, cruising around listening to the in-game radio stations, and eventually listening through the country station playlist of classic country - Willie Nelson's Whiskey River is now etched in my brain. Willie's song Crazy is a classic, whether he performs it or whether it is Patsy Cline singing it. Definitely worth checking out some of the classic country music, can't really say anything about modern country as I haven't checked it out. Just my two cents on the country music topic.

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Yes-that is a great album. I used to love listening to that on the longish-long for England-drives cross country I used to do a few years back. I actually saw him live, too, round about 1987. I can remember he did "Big River" which I only knew as a Dead tune at the time. But he had a great voice. Whenever I hear a record by him, and he starts singing, I stop what I am doing, or thinking about, and tune in.

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I'm a big early Country fan(early Blues too); check out the Carter Family, Jimmie Rodgers, the Delmore Brothers, Bob Wills, Tex Williams, Red Foley, Hank Williams, Roy Acuff, Sons of the Pioneers, Hank Penny, Merle Travis, and so many more.
In my opinion Johnny Cash's 50s Sun records are his best(I walk the Line, Hey Porter, etc.)
Whoever said 1971 was when the Dead started to sound good on C&W tunes was spot on.
By the way, I can't find the comments section for the PNW box...anyone else?

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What seems to work for me is picking the "Community" option top right. Then faced with a number of headed options, I go for "Dead products", bottom left. Hey presto, a list of topics under discussion appear. They seem to be in a random order, but all recent releases-Dave Picks, the 73/74 box, the new dvd/bu ray, the subscriptions are there if you scroll down.

The easiest way to get to them is to bookmark them the first time you visit.
To do that you can go to the Community page as Dave said, or on the store product page click on the comments button towards the bottom.

But why is this comment page formatted differently?
http://www.dead.net/30daysofdead/nov-17-2018

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If anyone is looking for this or any of this year's Dave's Picks, shoot me a PM. $25 plus shipping. The bonus disk is an additional $25.

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Ordered Oct ‘77 Road Trips from the Warner Music Store on Amazon and it came with the bonus disc.

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just testing to see if this pops 28 back to the top

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I go to this web page to find "comments"

http://www.dead.net/recent

they seem to be listed in "most recent comments" order.

Also on the capcha shit, I'm seeing more spam then on the last site.

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I went to the foundations' website and this show is no where to be found there. Sure looks good, early Tuna before they were Tuna, but still very hot. Gonna need to do some more research on this one quick. Thanks for the heads up Mr. Simonrob.

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Three old favorites and 4 new unnamed songs until this release, from 69. On sale for 15.00$ Pre Tuna, interesting name, but what would they call themselves back then? Post apocalyptic Airplane trio? Psychedelic Blue Seafood? Got any ideas?

Old, New Tuna? Very interesting indeed..

Happy Thanksgiving to all.. may your cup be full.

A special congrats to those affected in the Northeast.. I believe today marks the first day you can buy weed legally in the Eastern US as MA opened its first recreational dispensary. I honestly never thought I would see this in my lifetime. The times they are a changin'

I got in a nice revisit listen to DaP 28 yesterday, still sounds fresh. I put it in the same category as say Nashville 78 simply because the recording exceeded expectations and the show was solid. Not sure if it's the best Dave's Picks ever, but it's a solid release. Which reminds me.. we need more new music, that new car smell is beginning to fade.

Really enjoying the fall, but the bittersweet winds of Winter have arrived.. (darkness falls and seasons change). Hoping for a great winter..

Bring on the swing, happy holidays and blue cheer to all.

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Funny you mention that - I go back to that show often. Great sound, great show. Maybe one of the better first sets in all of 1978. This is a pick that I can see going back to quite often as well. I love when we are surprised like this. Life is good...

Hope everyone has a great thanksgiving. Our dinner is fairly small (my family + 1 other family) so there isn't much drama, but there is a lot of wine. Good times all around.

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Finally obtained a copy of Dick's 33. Two unbelievably great shows from October of 1976. Recording and mix are top notch. Not quite as good as The Cow Palace show, but very close. Expensive but worth it.

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Like many '76s until 10/15, at first seems slow. But I got a good long undisturbed listen in twilight, loud, and man does this deliver. The (somewhat) slower pace on most songs gives Jerry a chance to really sing. Tennessee, Wharf Rat, Ship of Fools, TLEO, FOTD--all good. It's a chamber music era, the emphasis is on the melodic and harmonic dynamics, not the volume dynamics.

Thanks to all!!

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Still haven't received Dave's 28. Bummer

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Jim, I agree, today's historical day in Mass. is one I had long ago accepted as a pipe dream (pun, intended).

I recall watching the show 'Weeds' through to its conclusion, wherein it time jumps like 7 years into the future, and pot is legal. It was an interesting, winning end to the show, and I remember thinking how liberating that would really be. Amazing it has now come to fruition in my state of residence. Soon to follow will hopefully be enough dominoes to change this on the most basic of levels to the positive.

Also wanted to chime in a say Happy Thanksgiving to all, near and far. Be well.

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I have finally come around to the seemingly majority opinion that this refit of the website has led to the death of the community that I have been a part of these many years. Pretty bummed.

Part of the problem is clearly how difficult it is to find the discussion threads. Perhaps we all agree to follow one of the threads on the community page - maybe we could collectively decide to park ourselves on one of the permanent forum pages... I don't know. I do know that checking this site has become less and less of a daily thing for me, and that makes me sad. What the hell am I supposed to do at work now?

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