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    Dave's Picks Volume 28: Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ, 6/17/76

    This year's Dave's Picks series comes to a close just as the band's getting back together again in '76. By the time the Grateful Dead hit New Jersey’s Capitol Theatre - for the very first time - on 6/17/76, they were buzzing from their reunion, armed with new and revived material, the Rhythm Devils reformed with the mischievous Mickey Hart once again behind the kit. They'd skived off the unwieldy Wall of Sound and scaled back the venues from cavernous arenas to intimate theatres. Quite the treat!

    During the first set, the Dead's playing was nuanced ("Cold Rain And Snow"), detailed ("Looks Like Rain"), and intricate ("The Music Never Stopped"); the singing struck softly ("Row Jimmy") and raised hairs ("Ship Of Fools"). But it’s the big barreling energy of the second set you’ll want to brace yourself for, replete with a disco'd "Dancing In The Streets," a low-down funky “Help”>”Slip”>”Franklin's” and a wind 'em up to wind down "Let It Grow">"Wharf Rat">"Around and Around." Can you keep up? There's only one way to find out.

    This complete show, balanced out with a couple of bonus tracks from 6/23/76 and 6/28/76, was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Dave's Picks Volume 28 is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    Grab a copy before they're gone, gone, gone.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Judysparty
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    As usual... How Dare I Say That! My God! That's appalling !

    C'mon people. First off, I'm not hiding or ignoring you like "the powers that be are". Go back to my post. I never Threatened anyone. Not once. Not even a little bit. OK. I use LARGE letters because the average age on this site sometimes is close to age 70. At that age, many people can't see things the way they used to. But if you like I can write in normal size lettering. Either way, people will always misinterpret my words or your words. It wouldn't matter what I said or how I say it, people will always blow it out of proportion.
    Now, I said what I said, the way I said it, to get people to have some sort of reaction. I achieved that. That was my goal.
    Too many times, most people just don't want to be bothered with reality. It's too much work. If the Dave's Pick 28 thread is not the place to talk about the problems we are having with this release, then I don't know what is.
    I have tried the phone calls. I have done the emails. I have chose to blog about it because I've been patient for weeks, and actually months!
    I have come to the realization that I can't do it alone anymore. I have also read other peoples complaints and problems here on this site. What I see is that we must unite and support each other. Stand together and be heard. Stand together and be seen. Someone hopefully, at dead.net and rhino might, maybe notice that we have had enough with status quo and that we need to do things differently to achieve positive results.
    How is Customer Service sending us one useless disc after another solving a thing? WE don't deserve this insane nonsense.
    We need to share our thoughts and devise a strategy to improve positive results from the people responsible to do so. I am calling on Dave Lemieux, because I think that the person whose name is on the whole CD series might be one person who might want to see that the Defective Disc issue is 1)- recognized and 2)- fixed the right and proper way.
    Here's the thing, since Dead.net or Rhino insists on issuing Limited (numbered) Editions of shows. Then they should be prepared to spend money to resolve these kinds of problems that are coming up. The discs need to be done all over again, from scratch. Fixed. Then shipped out to the customers. Not this other nonsense they are trying to pull on us.
    Also, we as deadheads, can be very, very patient people if it means we are going to get a quality product in return. So that being said, since we are the one's spending our hard earned money, we deserve a better deal by Rhino to get these things that should be done, done right.
    I have thought long and hard over the B.S. that has been given to me, and I'm sure a lot of you have to. I honestly believe we can achieve positive results if we adhere to good responsible ethics.
    My goal was to try to wake people up to this fact. Because we have to stand up and be counted. Not ignored.
    They think that if they can ignore us long enough we will go away. And you know what? They are right. When you sell a numbered limited edition and it's bogus and doesn't get fixed, then it becomes obsolete. The whole Dave's Picks Series up to Volume 28 becomes, I don't know, worthless. It's lost it's collectors value then right?
    That is what will happen when Dave's Picks 29 comes out. We will all go away, and then they don't have to deal with us or are problems until the next set of problems comes along.
    We will be the losers here. We must get them to resolve these problems now. The right way.
    Take what I have said and do whatever you think you must do with it. But there is one thing I have learned through the years. "If you are going to be one. Be one." PEACE!

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    I am jealous.. what great shows to see!

    As for grumpy Grumpins (or whatever the word is).. I take my lead on grumpiness from Mutley.

    You Rasselfrazenrickaracketsbackenstabbenbastages. Or, stated more eloquently, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj3DBcpfMNQ

    Wishing all of us, even the rassenfrassens a very happy New Year with no defective disks.

    One add.. a tip of the hat to DaveRock. I must admit I am not as open and receptive as some but the world needs more folks that understand the value of tolerance, especially from people with different perspectives. It's not often you see people embrace difference, especially when it's out of our comfort zone... The GD and assoc. madness and people has taught me much and I am still learning. His posts are often quite open and tolerant even when opinions differ from what are likely his own. There's enough room for all of us, and when you start kicking people off the island.. before you know it you are the last one standing, and what fun is that?

    As for MaryE, no words are suffice. And for Strider88.. if I ever got a hold of his ticket stubs, I would feed the dates into the wayback and hit each and every show.

    Peace all, to my buds here and those I don't know so well.. to 2019. Onward. Oh, a quick shoutout to Otis.. what a great new years vibe.

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    I Get It

    I got to agree, the outrage is just a little bit more than what the situation calls for. Kicking.and screaming here isn't going to help. All things being equal, I would much rather be talking about the music than defective discs which are a marginal issue at best. So there was a problem, they're taking care of it, move on. To call out David Lemieux of Dave's Picks with profanity is nonsense. I once had an email discussion with customer support where they clearly did not read what I was saying repeatedly. Sure it was frustrating, but I did not get nuts on the message board. I escalated to Dr rhino and he solved my problem immediately.

    Just by virtue of helping everybody who has had bad discs. marye is well aware of the extent of this issue and will surely get it taken care of moving forward. That is what has always happens here when there have been problems. And relatively speaking there have not been that many problems. They have had so many hundreds of individual releases with no issues whatsoever that I do think this is simply a matter of contacting the appropriate people through the appropriate channels and being patient. Some of you people make it sound like there's a conspiracy to rip off customers. The fact of the matter is, we have bonafide deadheads releasing the best stuff in the vaults for us, and we have direct contact with customer support management representatives who always get the job done.

    The masses are not going anywhere because the music is that good, so complaining about it here is truly not doing anything except distracting people from talking about the music. I'm not saying don't mention it here. I'm just saying that it is a fruitless distraction to try and round up an online Posse to try to bully the guy who picks the music. You see the difference? There can be even tempered discussion about which disk somebody or the other person is having trouble with, which is fine. But verbal threats and profanity and capital letters is ridiculous.

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    Snarly bunch here

    Anyway, check out 12/31/79.

  • daverock
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    Musical discussion board? - Butch

    I've never heard this board defined as that before. Anyway, it seems you are leaving, so goodbye to you, too!

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    Singles Volume 8 and Defective Discs

    Deadhead Brewer.....your post concerned me as I have also recently started my own singles collection. I had only purchased vol 1-4 until today. After seeing your post I went to the 2018 subscription link and was able to order volume 5-8 as a subscription. This may not help you as you mention you already bought 1-7, but at least you know that they still have Vol 8 in stock (at least through subscription). Would surprise me if it was sold out...

    My disc 3 is also fine on Dave's 28, so while definitely seems to be a widespread problem, it is not in totality. I did have one issue with a defective disc on the PNW box however it was addressed quickly and painlessly in just a few weeks by Dr. Rhino. Hopefully they make things right on 28 soon.

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    AMAZING!!!

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    It's ok to complain, just not here

    I didn't see anyone suggest it was not okay to complain about defective product. I saw Trainwreck say he was tired of the "incessant" complaining from Sam. I've been here long enough to guess correctly in a multiple choice question that reads "Most likely to complain (about anything at all)"

    a) MDJim
    b) Lovemygirl
    c) That's Otis
    d) vguy
    e) Unkle Sam

    I would go with Unkle Sam (you do kind of dampen the mood "bro")

    My disc 3 is fine on Dave's 28, so no need to spread rumors that every one is defective Judy. And using profanity toward Lemieux or anyone directly is simply not acceptable. Way too bellicose and aggressive over a stupid CD. You deserve your headache.

    I have no doubt in my opinionated head that the site overhaul that we all hate was due to that guy shirdeep posting violent images and spamming the site. Now things are worse. I have no doubt in my opinionated head (yeah yeah everyone has one) that posting profane laden diatribe's at Dave Lemieux is the quickest way to get the comment board unplugged for good.

    It's also laughable that the CD issues are being lumped together as some big problem on a linear scale that is getting worse with every release - FAKE NEWS. I've had one problem, discs slipping out of slip case during shipping got scratched (Get Shown the Light). New disc provided in less than a week. Talking to others, I know that box cutter situation was taken care of in a timely fashion, and they prevented some mishap due to good quality control on 30 Trips (before my time here, but I understand they delayed shipping for a month to fix a manufacturing problem).

    It's okay to complain, but there are emails and phone numbers for that, so really, why bog down the musical discussion board? I don't want to read about the 20th defective disc. So there was a problem, go write 20 emails, don't write 20 posts. You just screw it up for the people who just want to hear about the awesome Slipknot on DaP 28 (disc 2:-) Or here's one Judysgarden, just stop buying the stuff. Leave the site and go on you merry way. Nobody's interested in your negative revolution here. This isn't the place. goodbye.

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    CONTACT INFO -> TWITTER-> @lemieuxdavid

    CONTACT INFO -> Email-> vault@dead.net

    HEY DAVE, WHERE THE F_CK ARE YOU?

    ****** SHOW YOURSELF DAVID LEMIEUX *******

    The fate of FUTURE Dead releases is at stake here! Don't sit there with your head up your butt.
    Make some noise! Let them know this unacceptable! Demand that we get treated fairly as the Consumers !
    DEMAND ANSWERS AND POSITIVE RESULTS!!!

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    Drat. Got busy with the holidays and didn't order volume 8 of the singles collection, which now appears to have sold out. I just purchased volumes 1-7 a few months back, so assumed that there was no rush on #8, but alas! Before I pay the E-Bay vultures their blood money, does anyone happen to have one for sale, please? Private message me if you do. Thanks, and Happy New Weir, everyone!

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Dave's Picks Volume 28: Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ, 6/17/76

This year's Dave's Picks series comes to a close just as the band's getting back together again in '76. By the time the Grateful Dead hit New Jersey’s Capitol Theatre - for the very first time - on 6/17/76, they were buzzing from their reunion, armed with new and revived material, the Rhythm Devils reformed with the mischievous Mickey Hart once again behind the kit. They'd skived off the unwieldy Wall of Sound and scaled back the venues from cavernous arenas to intimate theatres. Quite the treat!

During the first set, the Dead's playing was nuanced ("Cold Rain And Snow"), detailed ("Looks Like Rain"), and intricate ("The Music Never Stopped"); the singing struck softly ("Row Jimmy") and raised hairs ("Ship Of Fools"). But it’s the big barreling energy of the second set you’ll want to brace yourself for, replete with a disco'd "Dancing In The Streets," a low-down funky “Help”>”Slip”>”Franklin's” and a wind 'em up to wind down "Let It Grow">"Wharf Rat">"Around and Around." Can you keep up? There's only one way to find out.

This complete show, balanced out with a couple of bonus tracks from 6/23/76 and 6/28/76, was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Dave's Picks Volume 28 is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

Grab a copy before they're gone, gone, gone.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Listening to it sequentially is like eating an IBM machine.. it took me six months to fully digest it.

It gets mixed reviews, probably deservedly.. there are a few tent pole shows that make the whole thing worthwhile, and many absolutely killer shows that come in just under that bar. There are a few that might not be mandatory revisits, and the project created a precident where patches and cuts made their way into official releases which many were not used to. But once you get that behind you, it's the off the radar shows that seal the deal. 84, 87, 91, 85 and the later era shows come to mind (I think I left out some highlights..it's late). Even 86 has wind beneath it's sails.

I don't know if its a must have, but I still drink from that well regularly and still find surprises and new areas to explore. Expensive? Yes, but simply because there is so much there.. the per disc/ per show price is the same as it ever was.

Edit: I think the sound, excluding the shows where the masters were subpar (the cassette master years), is very good.

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No regrets here, that box is among the highlights of my collection. As Jim noted, it does take a while to fully digest, but there is a ton of good stuff there. I have listened to the shows from '69-'75 the most, multiple times each, followed by '77, 82, and '87, but I have listened to almost all the shows a couple times or more. The '82 show is probably the worst recording quality in the box, but the show itself is strong enough that the sound quality is no too distracting once I adjust to it, and the '69 Dreambowl show is, in my mind, neck and neck with 2/27/69 Fillmore West show, the source of the classic Darkstar on Live Dead. I could go on, but suffice it to say, it is full of good stuff. Arthur Morgan would approve.

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Summer 85 isn't exactly a secret, but I agree with Jim and others...some nice gems in this box to be found from the 80s. The 85 show is one I go back to more often that I would have thought. Actually the shows from 82-87 in general have been played a lot in my house. All great stuff.

....yes. He probably would, but you know he would steal it, not pay for it. I know a few of you are playing Red Dead Redemption 2. Simply the most incredible video game i have ever put my hands on. Rockstar pulled out all the stops on this one. All my horses are named after Dead songs. Now if you excuse me, i need to go brush Supplication and feed him some apples.

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I suspected I was not the only one on these threads that might be digging that game. Definitely a game that elevates video games to something more than they have been in the past. That western vibe puts me in the mood for some of the Dead's cowboy tunes.

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the inspiration for me to write my first sci fi short story, I was only 11, and it wasn't very long, but I still remember how his super hero's lit up my imagination, what a story teller. I was and am a huge fan of all things Marvel, I still remember when I was a kid going to the store and pulling those new issues off of that turning wire rack, I couldn't wait for the next issue, they were only a dime. Where does the time go...via con dios Mr. Lee.

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....I discovered comics. Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk, and on and on. And that's just Marvel. Still have a dozen long boxes of them. I'm younger than Unkle Sam, so in my day they were a 20¢.... I knew this day would come. Doesn't make it hurt any less. Excelsior to you. The Hugh Hefner and Jerry Garcia of comics. Godspeed Stan. Thanos ain't got shit on you. 💪

I think Dave does the best job when not only the release fills you with joy, but inspires you to spend more time with additional shows from the era. This release does exactly that (at least for me). I've done nothing but listen to shows from 1976 for the past 2 weeks. Been mostly spending time with the June shows but also listened to the Cow Palace NYE show the other night. Man, what a great show. Cool setlist, cool and different vibe to a few of the songs, a PITB that stands the test of time...and then out of seemingly nowhere, a Morning Dew that blows the roof off of an otherwise chilled out show. thanks Dave for sending me down this rabbit hole

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Finally got hold of DaP28, looking forward to listening, not listened to much 76 compared to most years.

#23 has to be the lowest number I'll ever get (I care about the numbers more than most, no idea why since they're pretty meaningless!), so that was a nice surprise.

Can't wait for the new year of DaP and another box on the way!

Hope everyone's well!

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I noticed you didn't mention the 1978 show from 30 Trips. Possibly the most overlooked show from the box. It ranks very high against other '78 shows, IMHO. Contains the only officially released Mississippi Half-Step from that year (and a damn good version of it). 17 minute Let It Grow. Also one of the best standalone versions of this tune, top 3 in my book. Killer keyboard work from my compadre Keith on They Love Each Other. Very nice Cassidy and Brown-Eyed Women (check out Jerry's solo). And that's just the first set. Solid Samson & Delilah, which benefits more than most from the Wolf; and one of the top 3 or 4 Estimated Prophets (complete with extended early solo from Jerry - almost 2 minutes of pure bliss there). Anything in 1978 after April was hit or miss, and they definitely hit on this one. Oodles better than the two shows on DP 25, to my ears anyway.

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Speaking of top versions of Estimated Prophet, yesterday I listened to 11-13-87, and that one went straight to the top. If this version isn't in your top 3-4 give it a listen and let me know what you think.

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Thanks for the reminder, I'll have to go back and give that '78 show another listen soon. That 30 Trips box has a ton of great stuff, particularly that awesome '73 show you referenced on the DaP 2019 thread.

Honestly, since the 30 Trips Box came out, which was right after I finished picking up the Europe '72 shows, there have been so many great releases that I haven't fully digested all of them. I've listened to it all at least a couple of times, but I don't think that I fully absorbed the details and intricacy of each show. I'm on about the 3rd or 4th listen of the PNW Box, that has been my primary dead listening since it came out, sometimes I can't get enough of that '73-'74 sound.

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Is that an official release? Driving right now, limited hands.

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Keithfan...that show features my all time favorite Samson.

Also, if not mistaken, there is a really wild Around & Around. Really high energy show - definitely worth everyone's time.

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No, not an official release..

I'd be surprised if VGuy wasn't there??? I will have to give that a listen too. If anyone wants it, (or anything else really that hasn't been released) send me a PM and we will figure out a way.

Free Phil stream tonight on Nugs.net. 8:00 PST.
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That is a cool profile picture.

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Thanks, took it a few days after seeing Dead and Co in Boulder last year, in canyonlands, trip of a lifetime. That second Boulder show was incredible start to finish. Apparently the one this year wasn't bad either. Great part of the world

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A tremendous picker and nice guy all around; at least one tune in common with Jerry: Magnificent Sanctuary Band

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Oh man..

I can't say Country is my thing, after a few Me and My Uncles.. I need a break..

But I had a lot of respect for Roy Clark. He was a great guitarist.

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yesterday's weather brought the NYC/NJ area to a standstill (thanks to poor planning...)

While I was stuck in the car however, I got some quality listening time in. I moved off my 76 phase and dove right into late fall 79. 11/5 & 12/1 were on my list yesterday. Man, I'd love to see more releases from this era (though the ones we have are pretty sweet).

Re country: also, not my thing, but I do love El Paso, mama tried, and big river in particular. MAMU was definitely done to death, but the versions from 1970 or so are pretty solid and always worth a listen...

To me, the year the Dead really got to grips with country , live, was 1971. The country songs, and country based songs they played at shows during 1969 and 1970 always sound a bit awkward to me. But in 1971, both in terms of singing and playing, the pieces all seemed to drop into place. And stayed there. Having said that, both Workingmans Dead and American Beauty are great albums. Its just that the songs on those albums didn't translate to the live arena straight away.

But I never really got into country music per se either. Not like I did with blues. When I realised that a lot of the music I liked was based on blues I started listening to as many real blues musicians-as opposed to rock musicians playing blues - as I could. This would be in the late 70s. Everything from the early 1920s onwards. For some reason, country music never captured my imagination in quite the same way.

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Not really a big country music fan, but some of it is essential. Johnny Cash for example has a number of classic songs, and really the entire Live At Folsom Prison album is essential in my view. Folsom Prison Blues is a masterpiece and the performance live at the prison is beyond compare, I can't play it too loud. And later on his take on Rusty Cage and Hurt Myself Today are just about perfect, especially his version of Hurt Myself Today which is haunting. And what about Boy Named Sue? Is there a song with a better story? Can you listen to that song and not feel something?

A turning point on my country music appreciation came when I was fiending on Grand Theft Auto V, cruising around listening to the in-game radio stations, and eventually listening through the country station playlist of classic country - Willie Nelson's Whiskey River is now etched in my brain. Willie's song Crazy is a classic, whether he performs it or whether it is Patsy Cline singing it. Definitely worth checking out some of the classic country music, can't really say anything about modern country as I haven't checked it out. Just my two cents on the country music topic.

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Yes-that is a great album. I used to love listening to that on the longish-long for England-drives cross country I used to do a few years back. I actually saw him live, too, round about 1987. I can remember he did "Big River" which I only knew as a Dead tune at the time. But he had a great voice. Whenever I hear a record by him, and he starts singing, I stop what I am doing, or thinking about, and tune in.

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I'm a big early Country fan(early Blues too); check out the Carter Family, Jimmie Rodgers, the Delmore Brothers, Bob Wills, Tex Williams, Red Foley, Hank Williams, Roy Acuff, Sons of the Pioneers, Hank Penny, Merle Travis, and so many more.
In my opinion Johnny Cash's 50s Sun records are his best(I walk the Line, Hey Porter, etc.)
Whoever said 1971 was when the Dead started to sound good on C&W tunes was spot on.
By the way, I can't find the comments section for the PNW box...anyone else?

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What seems to work for me is picking the "Community" option top right. Then faced with a number of headed options, I go for "Dead products", bottom left. Hey presto, a list of topics under discussion appear. They seem to be in a random order, but all recent releases-Dave Picks, the 73/74 box, the new dvd/bu ray, the subscriptions are there if you scroll down.

The easiest way to get to them is to bookmark them the first time you visit.
To do that you can go to the Community page as Dave said, or on the store product page click on the comments button towards the bottom.

But why is this comment page formatted differently?
http://www.dead.net/30daysofdead/nov-17-2018

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If anyone is looking for this or any of this year's Dave's Picks, shoot me a PM. $25 plus shipping. The bonus disk is an additional $25.

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Ordered Oct ‘77 Road Trips from the Warner Music Store on Amazon and it came with the bonus disc.

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just testing to see if this pops 28 back to the top

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I go to this web page to find "comments"

http://www.dead.net/recent

they seem to be listed in "most recent comments" order.

Also on the capcha shit, I'm seeing more spam then on the last site.

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I went to the foundations' website and this show is no where to be found there. Sure looks good, early Tuna before they were Tuna, but still very hot. Gonna need to do some more research on this one quick. Thanks for the heads up Mr. Simonrob.

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Three old favorites and 4 new unnamed songs until this release, from 69. On sale for 15.00$ Pre Tuna, interesting name, but what would they call themselves back then? Post apocalyptic Airplane trio? Psychedelic Blue Seafood? Got any ideas?

Old, New Tuna? Very interesting indeed..

Happy Thanksgiving to all.. may your cup be full.

A special congrats to those affected in the Northeast.. I believe today marks the first day you can buy weed legally in the Eastern US as MA opened its first recreational dispensary. I honestly never thought I would see this in my lifetime. The times they are a changin'

I got in a nice revisit listen to DaP 28 yesterday, still sounds fresh. I put it in the same category as say Nashville 78 simply because the recording exceeded expectations and the show was solid. Not sure if it's the best Dave's Picks ever, but it's a solid release. Which reminds me.. we need more new music, that new car smell is beginning to fade.

Really enjoying the fall, but the bittersweet winds of Winter have arrived.. (darkness falls and seasons change). Hoping for a great winter..

Bring on the swing, happy holidays and blue cheer to all.

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Funny you mention that - I go back to that show often. Great sound, great show. Maybe one of the better first sets in all of 1978. This is a pick that I can see going back to quite often as well. I love when we are surprised like this. Life is good...

Hope everyone has a great thanksgiving. Our dinner is fairly small (my family + 1 other family) so there isn't much drama, but there is a lot of wine. Good times all around.

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Finally obtained a copy of Dick's 33. Two unbelievably great shows from October of 1976. Recording and mix are top notch. Not quite as good as The Cow Palace show, but very close. Expensive but worth it.

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Like many '76s until 10/15, at first seems slow. But I got a good long undisturbed listen in twilight, loud, and man does this deliver. The (somewhat) slower pace on most songs gives Jerry a chance to really sing. Tennessee, Wharf Rat, Ship of Fools, TLEO, FOTD--all good. It's a chamber music era, the emphasis is on the melodic and harmonic dynamics, not the volume dynamics.

Thanks to all!!

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Still haven't received Dave's 28. Bummer

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Jim, I agree, today's historical day in Mass. is one I had long ago accepted as a pipe dream (pun, intended).

I recall watching the show 'Weeds' through to its conclusion, wherein it time jumps like 7 years into the future, and pot is legal. It was an interesting, winning end to the show, and I remember thinking how liberating that would really be. Amazing it has now come to fruition in my state of residence. Soon to follow will hopefully be enough dominoes to change this on the most basic of levels to the positive.

Also wanted to chime in a say Happy Thanksgiving to all, near and far. Be well.

Sixtus

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I have finally come around to the seemingly majority opinion that this refit of the website has led to the death of the community that I have been a part of these many years. Pretty bummed.

Part of the problem is clearly how difficult it is to find the discussion threads. Perhaps we all agree to follow one of the threads on the community page - maybe we could collectively decide to park ourselves on one of the permanent forum pages... I don't know. I do know that checking this site has become less and less of a daily thing for me, and that makes me sad. What the hell am I supposed to do at work now?

Peace

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