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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • daverock
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    Yes, same here. Part of the incredible innovative power of the band between late 1967 and the end of 1970 was precisely because they had two drummers. I haven't seen it for a while, but as I remember it, Hugh Hefner comments on the two drum set up during the Playboy After Dark appearance in 1969. Jerry describes the effect of hearing it in action as like being exposed to "rolling thunder"-or words to that effect. If there was anything like this sound in rock/jazz /whatever, before The Dead utilised it...I haven't heard it yet.

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    Interesting, and kind of ironic....I thought the opposite. Surely, Mick and Bill had some parts of the early, more complex psychedelic stuff “worked out” but contrived? I’ve seen the Brothers many times and I would sometimes wonder why they had 2,3,4 ? Drummers, they all were playing the same thing....generally B&M would not.

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    Great Woodgreen Jam!

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    ...I feel bad for those who believe in your statement, a very negative & uncouth approach to your problem...peace be with you brother...🙏❤️😔
    ...”one man's trash is another man's treasure!”
    Thats much more my cup of tea folks...
    *This morning I’m recycling 5/28/77, from the Grateful Dead ‘To Terrapin’ Hartford 77’ Release from 2009. Primo! :) :) :)
    Have a grateful day everyone, rock on!

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    Well.. that's interesting. I did find it somewhat incredulous that he walked away from an improv session with the basics of a song without recording and re-listening. I know I couldn't do it, but then again I am no musical genius.

    It's a testament to the knowledge of this group that something so obscure was fact checked so quickly. Thanks for the feedback.

    Back to our regularly scheduled Feedback > We Bid You Goodnight.

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    The book by Scott Freeman is also surprisingly dismissive of The Dead, too. Butch Trucks is quoted as saying the Dead's use of two drummers didn't work, as they were " contrived" and stuck to previously worked out patterns. He goes on to say "Their whole approach is very structured." Whereas he saw himself and Jaimoe as being completely free and spontaneous.
    The trouble with making and quoting a comment like that is that the reader is inclined to apply the criticism to the person who is making it. Which isn't necessarily true either, of course. But it doesn't present the opinionated person in the best of lights. The Allman Brothers deserve a better eulogy than this one.

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    One of the best from 1970.

    Didn't Duane also play with the Dead on 4/4/71?

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    Jim, unfortunately that Midnight Riders book was terribly researched on that tidbit. I have a tape as early as 5/4/69 in Macon with a 25 min Mountain Jam. Now, the story is true that Duane got the idea from teases Jerry did while The Hourglass were still together, as they apparently opened for the Dead a couple times (Liberty Records wouldn't let them play much, which frustrated Duane), and that's where he first heard it, and this would be 1968, as he quit The Hourglass, went back to Florida, then made his way to Muscle Shoals to try his hands at session work. The only definite sit ins he made with the Dead were 2/11/70 at the Fillmore East when Duane, Berry, and Gregg joined Peter Green and Danny Kirwan for Dark Star> Spanish Jam> Lovelight and 4/26/71 (leaving Gatlinburg, TN where the Allmans were rehearsing to guest at the Fillmore East). I read in a guitar magazine about another possible jam as Jerry, Duane, and Bob went to a radio station and had planned on doing some jamming on the air, but Duane lacked an acoustic, and caught some shit from Jerry about being unprepared. But Duane didn't hold it against him in the least, saying of Jerry that "He could do anything that any man ever could. He could walk on water. He's a prince" and in another radio interview when asked who he'd like to jam with, Duane listed some people, but ended with a line about he'd play with Jerry Garcia anywhere. Too bad Gregg's legal (heroin) issues led to Jerry dismissing him as a narc and pretty much ending any further associations between the two bands after the early 70s.

    Ironically, I visited the Big House in Macon this past weekend for the first time. Jaimoe and Friends happened to be playing when we arrived, so that was a bonus. A great museum, and experience, would be cool if 710 got the same treatment. I visited the graves of Duane, Gregg, and Berry as well. Sad and moving. There were several people already there, three guys jamming on acoustics.

    May have to pull out some of my rarest ABB after this trip down memory lane. Time to dust off the cassette deck!

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    Jim I think you got the money just right. The # of discs were I believe planned at 72 but for perfection it went to 73

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    Dennis, a few months back, while ordering a bunch of music, I threw a copy of Mahler's Eighth Symphony (Solti conducting) into my Presto Music cart and checked out. When the big box of CDs arrived, I went to put the Mahler on the shelf, and realized that I already HAD a copy of the same recording! Doh.

    I'm not a robot, but I play one on t.v.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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...set-List is primo! I’m in love! 🙏❤️😎

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Guess the mystery will hold until May 1. Can't wait for this release!

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When I was a mere schmo of 19...dem were da daze...

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yahoo!!!!

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Should be fantastic. Love the artwork too......(But still hate this new site. Impossible to post or find comments on your phone. It's a nightmare. I miss this place. I just happen to be in front of a computer now)......Enjoy the holiday weekend

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I have the subscription. If it's not sold out, get it now.

Love the artwork and look forward to hearing this. A magic era.

Too soon to request an 80's show for Vol. 31 and 90's show for 32?

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30. (!).

Wow.

This is good. This Dark Star is one for The Ages.

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I say for #31: 6/18/83 and 6/20/83

for #32: 5/27/93

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It's never to early to ask for an 80's show. But I'm a little greedy. 3 83 shows in a mini box would keep mr. Jones away from my door for a while

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....seems like just yesterday that the Dave's series was announced. Oh, oh what I want to know. where does the time go?

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Can’t wait to get my furry paws on it. You got it right pops ,those were some good old days.

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Seems the t-shirt for sale is the cover of the bonus disc. Interesting artwork, also gives an idea how small the Fillmore East was. That third disc is gonna get a lot of play at my house and in my car I imagine.

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This is the Dead at their first "Peak". Amazing stuff. And the recording is pristine.

Love the art for this one. Glad to see something different and original.

“Incredible variety of releases and format” Dave you evil bastard LOL! We haven’t even received this one yet and I’m already jonesin’ for more! Format variety? Like perhaps some video....

COVER ART: I’m with thin, I like this cover especially because it’s not the bearded skeletons again....not saying any of that was bad, just think there is so much more iconography to work with and the skeletons have been done to death, yuck yuck, imho that is....sounds like we might get some era variety also? Philly 89? Summer 85? More 79? 91?
Folks saying Warfield 80 might be right, he’s obviously been poking around there....but what about Gainesville!

Yee-gads, I guess in the mean time we’ll just have to settle for some 70 Fillmore 😉 were so spoiled, thanks Dave

EDIT: perhaps the most interesting tell is that their working with Bears people and what that might entail......”possibilities are frightening”

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The art work is growing on me on this one, but that disc three looks amazing.

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Short Seaside chat for Dave. Of course this one should have come out a long time ago....

No real clues on the next box.☹️

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I concur, guessing what's on this bonus disc is going to be fun. That third disc with the dark star is going to get some big time play here. Some of the tunes from 1/3 are on disc 1 and 2 so I am going to figure the big jams from both early and late shows will be on the bonus disc, oh goody, ps put me down for a couple of those limited run t shirts.

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Sixy - That's what I thought when I turned 30. I'm 45 now. : ))

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either an 80's Ventura box or an 80's Greek Berkeley box....

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This seems like it might be pretty interesting.:

https://pitchfork.com/news/grateful-dead-graphic-novel-announced/

Anyone remember back in the day, the Grateful Dead comix? I recall them coming in the printed newsletter that folded out, was on beautiful stock paper, and had lots of colors and all the new products of the day. Like Dick's Picks one haha.

Sixtus

P.S. Wedeocu....true dat. 30 seems like both yesterday and forever ago! Also makes me wonder if there is ever any endgame number in store for us with Dave. 30 is great. Imagine double triple quadruple that? Who will live that long haha.

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Just like others have noted, the skeleton art has become a bit stale and cliched so this is a welcomed change of art direction. The other covers are great but the skeleton motif becomes staid after a while. The Wizard of Oz cover was a nice touch on whichever release it was on.

Now onto that MSG NYC September 1979 box set. Dave that one will sell-out instantly.

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I dont know Sixy, I think I can make it to at least Dave's Picks 110 or maybe 120.

Anything after that is all bonus material for sure!

Looks like Rhino has found the sweetspot. That point that people that want it can have it while keeping the cost down by not succumbing to those that think Rhino is in business for them by keeping everything made in stock

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I tried to pre-order one (on an iPad) and got the message

“Selected required options are not available.”

Just seeing if it was sold out, I wasn’t going to actually buy it because I subscribed.

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Not sold out, I was able to put one in the cart.

100 total hits in the book, pre-orders only.
You have to figure out where to lick, with no 2 hits adjacent to each other.
Basically a reCRAPTCHA exam for the tongue. The problem is that by the time you realize that you found a hit, you could have found 5 hits.

But seriously folks, the real question is what unreleased songs are going to be on the bonus vinyl for preorders.

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just please don't put out 8/3/69 at the Great Highway. that show sucked balls so hard I didn't get through it and I deleted that show first and only time I felt the need to delete a grateful dead show

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21K OR 22K for 2020??? PS jamming 4/17/1971 Dillon Gym from Princeton.... missed the anniversary by a day but in a mood for some Pig Pen!!!.... have a good night everyone... bob t

Only clue given was Alligator, and they very wisely used the key covers as filler on disc 2, and the rule about originals or phblic domain leads me to think the bonus disc will look thus:
Cumberland Blues, Alligator> Drums> Alligator> (Caution Jam tracked?) Feedback, Mason's Children, That's It For The Other One> Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band> Black Peter, Dire Wolf

Think that's around 80 min; Senor Norman cuts a lot of the inevitable tuning that is left in on Archive, so who knows how much he can cut, one of the songs may not make it. Figure UJB> Black Peter over the early show encore version, and Mason's because Dave has put out most of them, and I could see another double Mason's, for those who hate and loathe and despise it, at least it isn't a triple shot of it. And not sure if he goes with another China Rider. Would not object at all to that.

And I wonder if Dave's mention of working with the Stanley family means this is more Bear's Sonic Journals type of release than Houseboat Tape continuation. Though, he also mentioned the Dave's that were part of that stash, 6 (2/2/70, 12/20-21/69 with bonus), 10 (12/10-11/69 with bonus), 19 (1/23-24/70). Either way, talk of talks with the Stanleys plus the returned Bettys make it a great time to be a Deadhead, and a boom time for any credit card company who gives cards to Deadheads.

Really excited for this release!

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Also a good call, we might get TWO Cumberlands in this release! Blessed 🙏 indeed.

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....the Mason's Children from 1.2 is the one released on Fallout From The Phil Zone. The Philster is doing a one off in Vegas in three weeks. Here's the lineup.
https://hardrockhotel.com/las-vegas-entertainment/joint-phil-lesh-2019…
....looking tasty af. Can't complain.
Note the age limit of 6+. At The Joint. Wow.

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I snorked hard when i read that

If I remember correctly, the bonus disc can only be made up of GD composed songs. Reason being the bonus disc is a 'gift' so to speak and Rhino is financially responsible for producing it. They don't want to pay royalties for the cover songs on a giveaway disc. I can't say I blame them. The end of disc 2 has some of the cover songs from 1/3/70 and what cover songs they are.
Someone stated in an earlier post Dave had mentioned 'Alligator' so I'd say that's a safe bet for the bonus disc; Deadlists times it at approx. 25 minutes so there's 50-55 minutes left for other GD songs/jams. We could see some prime music from 1/3/70.

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Looking at the set list, this Daves 30 looks like a bridge linking the 60s to the 70s. It must have been one of T.C.s last gigs, and one of the last times the Dark Star-St. Stephen-Eleven suites featured. The disc also includes a generous helping of the more country rock style the band would focus on during the first couple of years of the new decade. More country, less psych-although epic journeys were still made, the focus was beginning to change-and this set demonstrates that quite nicely.

Also nice to see hippychick back, lubricious as ever.

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