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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • KeithFan2112
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    Another The Other One

    Hooked on Other Ones now. I'd put this one in my top ten list, starting today: Dick's Picks 28 (2nd Show). This was the Salt Lake City concert. There's a fantastic Disc 4 sequence: Truckin' => The Other One => Eyes Of The World => Morning Dew. It's all top-shelf, but The Other one is on the secret shelf above the top shelf; you know, the horizontal mirror that runs across the top front, but opens up like the hidden book compartment in the 30 Trips Around The Sun Box. Miss it at your own peril.

    Yeah, I remember when Norman was on here. Was kind of surprised he showed up, but I think he was trying to figure out what it was we were all hearing in the recent releases that we thought sounded so good. It was right after (I believe) Dave's 17 came out, and a lot of us were raving about what we perceived as some significantly improved sound quality coming out of the most recent releases. You never know where the tape quality ends and the Engineer's skills and tools begin, but I'm convinced that the older tapes are sounding better than ever. Would love to have DP 7 and DP 31 remastered and sounding like the three shows from the Pacific Northwest Box Set.

  • fourwindsblow
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    Those shows were just what I had on a flash drive of audience sources in mp3 just for in the car.

    I must have thought the aud. for the 11th didn't sound that good so
    i didn't DL that one. I will listen to that one in sbd uncompressed on the big system at home.

  • Lovemygirl
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    *Re/ last five-non Dead

    ...last five on Vinyl...
    #1- Bob Dylan ‘Desire’
    #2- Traffic ‘Last Exit’
    #3- Free ‘Best Of Free’ *(69’-72’ selections)
    #4- Rod Stewart ‘Sing It Again Rod’
    #5- Eric Clapton/Jeff Beck/Jimmy Page -
    ‘Guitar Boogie’
    ✌️❤️😎 ...Let the Music Play! Rock on!

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    Dead.net did not address this, it came up in several conversations / posts here. A few listeners, much like yourself, noticed inconsistency in the mix and shows where the piano was either buried or hard to hear at all. It's come up several times over the last seven years.

    I think the shows sound great, but then you notice Keith is low in the mix - sometimes very low. OneMan was the first to really hammer the point in relation to the E72 box. Then.. if memory serves a couple years ago.. Guss West reached out to Jeffrey Norman and convinced him to make a few guest appearances on one of these threads. Sort of a question and answer type thing and that specific question was asked. There was not a direct answer to the question, but he did indicate he would love to revisit some of these shows knowing what he knows now and utilizing some of the new approaches (Plangent Processing being among them). So this issue was addressed, but not directly answered. It was left for us to interpret his statements.

    I took some liberties reading between the lines that with E72 in particular, knowing the volume of work was high and the turnaround tight.. and his response that he would love to revisit and remix some of these shows that volume vs. time impacted some of the mixes. I honestly believe if they came out in smaller batches or if more time was given for the his work we would have seen some better mixes. When I look back at my own work, especially when it's complicated, it could almost always benefit from some revision.. don't take this to be a slam on Jeffrey's work, I in fact think he does a great job.

    I hope this doesn't come across as too big a complaint, they still sound great and are one of the joys in my collection.. But there.. I said what I think happened based on the mix and all those conversations that have taken place over the years. Look at this as a soft analysis on one of the best offerings we are likely to ever get from the band.

    On a related note, I would really like to see some of the early releases remastered and re-released.. especially some of those partial show compilations or shows where I have to think would sound better if Jeffrey revisited them. He really has gotten better in recent years. One can hope.., right?

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    re: Fourwindsblow & June 76

    ....I think you forgot/skipped right over one of the best of that bunch - June 11, 1976.

    I assume it was either a typo or a temporary moment of insanity. Don't miss out, this is one of my all-time favorites especially the second set:

    https://archive.org/details/gd1976-06-11.141702.sbd.miller.flac1644

    IMHO, one can never get too much of this stuff.

    Seventy-Sixtus

  • Lovemygirl
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    ...greetings my fellow brothers & sister on this grateful Monday. This morning I started my listen’n With the ‘Download Series Volume 1.’
    The first in a series of digital download albums by the Grateful Dead. The album features the complete show from April 30, 1977, which was the second of a five night run at New York City's Palladium. In addition, in order to fill out the third disc, bonus material is included from the previous night at the same location. I love Norman’s magical mix for this release along with anther Primo Audio recording by Betty! I always thought that the Five Running performances at the NY Palladium would make a grateful Box Set, even though we have many releases from 77’ I love this performance.
    Also someone brought up the statement of releasing past releases with upgraded audio. I would gratefully purchase certain, not all, upgraded releases...
    I would love to see All the Download series be released available on a CD format. Some great, Primo, shows in that series! All together I believe they only released 12 in the series. I love the Grateful Dead’s 1979 performances and recordings.
    Take care everyone and remember to Smile Smile Smile, peace be with you all, god bless.
    🙏❤️😎🤠
    PS/ great posts VGuy72, Keithfan and jimMD!!!
    As always, you guys make me smile with your daily posts. Thank you for sharing. I love this place/board as well. A beautiful group of brothers & sisters, both humble & Grateful about the band and the fans!
    Cioa’, rock On ! 🙏🤠

  • Thats_Otis
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    IceCreamKid... RE:11/28/80

    Ahh... sadly, I could not pull the trigger on Boxzilla. Glad that it made it tho! It's a great show :)

    Peace

  • Thats_Otis
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    The guitar player, Billy, lives in my neighborhood, and is a buddy of mine! Incredibly nice guy, and yes, loves him some Jimmy Page!

  • dreading
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    Thanks for the info on Europe '72 Complete. That really surprised me. I assumed there was a technical problem since he is present for some of the shows. I assumed they just took the original LP performances from the shows where you can hear him. To hear that the problem was limited production time is very disappointing. Did I understand you correctly that they addressed this on the website here? I was not really tuned in to the Grateful Dead as regularly then as I am now and did not buy the steamer trunk. To be honest I thought the whole thing was ludicrous, 22 shows of basically the same material. For me it came down to whether or not I wanted to spend $450 for a dozen Dark Stars and Other Ones. Then a few years ago the individual shows were discounted 25% and I picked up a few. Then a few more. LOL, and how foolish I felt for having passed up all of this great nuanced Grateful Dead music when they were at the peak of their powers. I did not notice the piano until a few weeks ago when I also started to listen to the shows on their anniversary dates.

    Vguy you are a warrior. '95!

  • fourwindsblow
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    Just found this...

    Grateful Dead 6-14-76 Beacon Theater NYC Soundcheck

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wdIdqWju2M

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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And a big Sunny Rocky Mnt. how do you do!
Nice to see Wjones and the always entertaining CaseyJ back with us.....
CJ, was worried you some how smuggled in your magic carpet, got turned on to some ultra government top secret veggies, lifting off somewhere between HCS and Dark Star, and decided to fly the length of the Columbia, eventually needing to crash in some uncharted PNW forest, only to be kiddnaped by a secret clan of Uber Sasquatch....”ancient alien theorist say yes!” Who we’re so high, intelligent and kind that we would never hear from the likes of you again, not that there’d be anything wrong with that lol
Couldn’t help but pick up on the less than Bolo type clue about “we weren’t listening to the return bus instructions” ha, bet a few of us here know where that’s going! Lol

BOX: yep, looking like whoever said the announcement was going to be after Dave’s 31 is gonna win the prize...
Prize you say? .......yea,
“Upon your death you will receive divine consciousness.....which is nice”

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Its not a matter of snoozing and losing

Its about a SHITBRAINED SYSTEM AND LAMENESS ON THE PART OF THE PTB AT THE GORGE.

luckily for you all, i am headed to work...keeping my day job and all that

Have a pleasant day, y'all

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“My mom let me go to Grateful Dead shows when I was 12 or 13 years old. The things that taught me,” Austin told Relix in 2009. “And I think about these kids – it’s like a sense of community, a different sense of giving and caring – we’re all here together. If you create something, you’ll have this beautiful bubble that will occur.”

Read more: https://relix.com/news/detail/in-memoriam-jeff-austin/#ixzz5rt4azryg

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What a bummer. Heard over the weekend he was in the hospital. These guys got me hooked into bluegrass in 2001-2002 era, and I was lucky to see them a bunch in the early aughts. Jeff was unquestionably the leader of that band. He was a great songwriter and a better singer. Time to put on an old Yonder show.

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The link to the book was cool. It reminds me of the stories I have had traveling with the dead in the 80's. It is like losing a faithful dog that was always there to make sure you were ok. You never forget those times. Some people may think it's just a concert but it was more then that. Those people would not understand unless they were there.

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Right on!

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I told you all I have been exploring 1974 much more since accepting the sonic issues that go along with it. I'm full blown rampage now, which is ironic considering my last full blown rampage was 1974.

I have also observed there are only about a half-dozen Dark Stars from 74. That is almost a criminal act.

What I don't get is the popularity of DaP 2 Dillon Stadium. Awful audio. Is it simply because it's hard to get that it's so expensive on eBay? The show doesn't sound like anything special to me, maybe the poor audio is not helping. Can we all agree it's one of the worst sounding shows of 74?

And I will be needing rankings of all Eyes of the World from this year. I've come to the conclusion that they are the best ones, but if 73 needs to be included then so be it. Not interested in two drummer Eyes unless it's One from the Vault.

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Greek Theatre, 15, 16, 17 July 1988 just arrived today. It doesn't sound as good as a Normanized Plangent deal, but it sounds pretty good for a radio broadcast. Six discs for a little over thirty dollars.

Slaked my thirst while waiting for the box announcement. Not to mention the announcement is just the dangling of the carrot... the ship date can't be before Fall '19, at this point.

Jerry's vocal on the seldom played "Believe It Or Not," is extremely soulful. I'm just sayin'.

\m/

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11/17/73 is my favorite '73 version so far.

Coattail Skeletons 7/19/74 has a Dyno-MITE version.

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Now I'm thinking it may be the long awaited Boston Ark 69 shows. It's the 50th anniversary of the shows and Bolo said it's "about time those incredible shows were released". Bolo's clues may be hinting at Noah's Ark.
From Bolo's post:
Religious references: "grace of God", "glorious", "soul"
Storm reference: "Kesey's Thunder Machine"
Animal references:
1. "China"-----China CAT
2. "dark side of the moon"-----(pink floyd)-----ANIMALS
3. "Starbucks"------(Moby Dick)-----WHALE
4. "Cheetos"-----(Chester Cheetah)----CHEETAH

Right? Is anyone with me on this?

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Ark would be cooooool

What does a yellow dog say?

"Ark, man...Ark"

Your avatar is awesome

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....🤔 I have nothing.
Wait. Liberace tickled the ivories. Tusks are made of ivory. ELEPHANTS!
i still have nothing....

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May 77 - Number 3 Palladium April 29-May 4!
1st Leg April '78 Curtis Hixon>Huntington,WV 4-16-1978 What about Sporto?

June '85
OR
June '91

Alaska '80? Msg '79 or '81?

P.S. Mike Edwards, Mr, Pid, dstache, OneMan, ComicBodger, Space Face? I beg you call the tune... :-)\\

Stuart Walker? sherbear? marye? monsieur Joe EVERYONE?

Happy Summer and carpe diem...

Love, Jeff

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9/11 at Alexandra Palace is a good one. Very long, very spacy. After 1974 they always seemed in too much of a hurry when they played it. The 1976 ones especially-too fast, too short. And that seemed to set the template for the song for ever after.

Multi-track from October 1969 or April 1971

Could be something from Fillmore West 1970 acoustic electric

Or more from 1989. Philadelphia Spectrum 3 shows

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Hey looking for someone to pick up an extra pin from a couple shows. Anyone going to Bristow , Charlotte , Atlanta or Dallas ? I had plans to go to Bristow , Charlotte and Atlanta but my dog had heart attacks last week. Had to cancel all plans and keep him company

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Hopefully it’s a spectacularly Plangentized offering.

The real worry is Vault safety. Hopefully Warner has a better fire prevention system than Universal Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8517618/universal-music-fir…

High Time to pick up the pace of releases, that way if something does happen in the future hopefully all the good sounding shows will have already been released.

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I probably won't be able to get the box...my wife looks at me strangely

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Wow, that article is sad. Especially Cheech and chong and rodney dangerfield. The Captain and tennille not so much.

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And what about Spinal Tap.....I was really hoping they’d rerelease an audiophile version of Smell the Glove!

CAPTCHA sux. I can handle one screen of "find the bikes, ya damn fool", but 6 screens of buses, crosswalks, and festering sores is too much.

It's not like we are trying to hack into Fort Knox or something

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First Girl of the North Country since 8/27/14 tonight in Stockholm (also first Can't Wait since 2012).

Not my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFCERlqVPo

Sounding good. The Can't Wait is nice too...sounds like Stayin' Alive, haha. Waiting for a late summer / fall US announcement.

Anyone check out the new Rolling Thunder Revue box and Netflix special?

Gonna catch Dead & Company in ATL this weekend. Saw the Stones last Friday, first and only time for me. Worth it! Amazing that Mick had a valve in his heart replaced two months ago, he was all over the stage non-stop like it was the 70s. I got winded putting on the t-shirt I bought at the show.

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Just saw your post, I can check in Atlanta if you still need it. Thoughts to your dog!!! You are prioritizing correctly.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-…

Here's an article I had just read before coming over here, and, sure enough it's already being discussed. I can't believe UMG lost millions of masters and were able to keep it silent for 11 years. The exceedingly long list of artists who were impacted is truly sad. Buddy Holly, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, The Who, Tom Petty, The Carter Family, even a Martin Luther King, Jr speech that was recorded and released. Decca and Chess records. Unbelievable. Who knows what kind of brilliant work lay unreleased and unheard until the conflagration meant they would never be heard.

Also, I remember Dave made a joke on the Hofheinz 11/18/72 release page about not being able to hear Hoyt Axton Explodes without a turntable, though now it may be impossible for them to even think about a re-release as his masters are also thought to have been destroyed. I hope the artists get a massive settlement from UMG, which is worth $33 billion.

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In All in the family season 6 'Archie, the babysitter'. Gloria hires a babysitter and the babysitters boyfriend who comes over to hang out with her, brings over 2 albums. One is Blues for Allah and the other is the rolling stones. You can see both sides of B.F.A album with jerry and the band and the front pretty clearly. The boyfriend says " I brought over the grateful dead and the Rolling stones" and Archie says "yeah I've heard of those grave diggers before". Good episode.

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I was shocked to read this, never heard about it. Very sad indeed.

You can never believe they don't have fire system in these places and take a greater value in the stuff they have.

The BBC tossed out a chunk of Doctor Who's cause they needed the storage?

A wild spec I heard years ago on TCM was that 1/2 the movies made before 1950 are GONE.

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I think the films were watched over by people who don't give a shit. Then you get people like Dave L. And the others who protect their music and concerts with love and respect like they should be treated.

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....first I've heard of this as well. 100,000 masters? Oops indeed. Note to selves. Celluloid does not handle heat very well. That's why I keep mine in Montana. On the Canadian border. As Red Foreman would say, "dumbasses!"
One of my favorite TV dads. Up there with Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

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NOT THE ASIA MASTERS!!!!!

But seriously, it's the greatest prog-gone-pop-rock album ever. Credit where it's due - producer Mike Stone pulled that record out of his ass.

I would have said maaaaybe Duke was better, but they crossed the line with Dukes Travels
- that song is as progressive rock as 1980 could possibly sound.

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Hot Rize~Take It Home
String Cheese 9-3-98 Strawberry Music Fest.,Camp Mather~Yosemite,California
Herbie Hancock~Head Hunters
G.D. 4-14-71 Lewisburg,Pennsylvania
Hot Tuna 71-7-3 Fillmore~San Fran.
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Listening to the Englishtown half step this morning and towards the end of an absolutely fantastic version was brought to tears during the Rio grande refrain at the thought of that father and daughter picture from earlier this week .
Come on Donald stop being such a bell end and cut these guys some slack , the worlds not just a rich mans playground .

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As much as I have issues with the current administration, people come to this lil' area to escape all that.

May God welcome the father and daughter's souls to heaven. I am sincere in that.

Please let this board be a refuge from the ills of the world (wake up to find out that there's lots of ills in the world).

Grateful for life
Dead for life
Grateful Dead promote life
"the Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb" - Joseph Campbell

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Sorry , never meant to bring politics onto this site - it’s not even something I’m that bothered about anymore - as we say over here “ same shit different colour “ I guess the music caught up with me .

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I think you have to at least put 6/18/74 on the list of top performances in the 73/74 period.

I have to say.. although I do like 73/74 versions the most.. it is one of the few songs where the rearrangement did not ruin it for me. There are some true gems post hiatus. I believe it to be one of the better original songs in their cannon. When I used to hear the opening chords at shows, I perked up a bit and paid attention. It rarely disappointed.

ok. Back to your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

(Edit: Or Eyes>China Doll) :D

she refers to Jerry as "their vocalist and lead guitarist" (vocalist...singular...and listed ahead of guitar)

as I have said before: I don't listen to the GD for the vocals.

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