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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Great story about seeing the Dead-thanks for sharing.

    Concerning great bands who didn't make it-I literally wouldn't know where to begin. I've got countless compilations of British and American bands from 1965-1975, some of whom only ever got to cut one single. "Nuggets" was the gateway drug for this obsession, and any one of the bands featured on the original double album, since expanded to a 4 cd set would qualify as must hears.

    But to delve even deeper, there is a great and beautiful book edited by the late great Patrick Lundborg, called "The Acid Archives", which chronicle bands so rare they weren't even household names in their own household. I've picked up a couple of albums recommended in this tome-two comparatively Dead friendly ones are the "Mountain Bus" album, which is often compared to Working Mans era Dead, and features a great version of "I Know You Rider", and Snakegrinder's "..and the Shredded Field Mice", which features some tidy jamming. Apparently Snakegrinder used to cover Dead songs live. We may never know how well.

    In the comparatively mainstream world, I get the impression the Flamin' Groovies didn't make it in the States. Shame-they would have livened Woodstock up a bit. "Flamingo" and "Teenage Head" are my two favourite albums by them, and the later single "Shake Some Action" is one of the best of the decade-1970s. They must have been quite successful though-they are touring Britain this very minute.

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    Here goes:
    We were 6 kids, 16-18 y.o., 4 guys/2gals who drove to Baltimore in what else? A white VW bus! We arrived around 3:00 PM and found the Civic Center. We proceeded to hang around outside for awhile and watch the great quanities of Heineken being brought in…this was before we knew about the Heineken requirements. The rest of the afternoon was spent walking around taking in the sights. The Inner Harbor had just completed renovations in hopes of furthering tourism as well as improving the city's image. I don't think we even had so much as a joint with us.

    The show was great with 'Sugaree' being a standout..the extended solos blew us away, there's no other way to put it. Though not the tour's best version it was still incredible to hear and see. Our seats were approx. 10 ft. in front of the soundboard and to the left. We decided to get a room for the night, the gals making sure it was in the same hotel GD were staying. After we registered everyone but myself headed for the lobby bathrooms. While standing there waiting in the lobby for my crew, 3 'freaks' walk through the front door: the guy on the left had a beard, glasses and shoulder length dark hair, the guy on the right had glasses and light brown, medium length hair and was talking to the guy on the left, while the guy in the middle was just bobbing his head left and right…my thought process was this: 'Damn they let any kind of freak in this place'…and then I saw the GUITARS…I headed for the bathrooms around the corner to alert my friends but by the time we got back they had gotten on the elevators.

    Long story short the gals were persistent in all things GD (these 2 ladies were at the Closing Of Winterland) and we got to meet Jerry Garcia the next day. He was an incredibly nice guy who took the time to talk with us for 15 mins. or so. My friend said, 'You did an incredible version of 'Sugaree' last night', at which Jerry, with a smile and a twinkle in his eye said, 'That was a lamb'. I'll never forget those words and believe they'll stay with me for life. All in all it was a great time

    I have 2 other '77 stories which I'll save for another time:
    1. The camp-out for opening night tickets at the Phila. Spectrum 4/22/77
    2. Englishtown

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    At least TYA had some success in the US…I believe it was their appearance at Woodstock that got them noticed by the media and the masses. 'Bad Scene' from 'Sssssh' was the song that got me.

    Unfortunately Moby Grape had an extremely bad marketing campaign that sank their 1st album, which is a shame as I think it's a great debut.

    I have what I call 'The Rock & Roll Fools Hall of Fame'…the fools being the masses who missed out on great music because they wouldn't give it a chance/listen. I think every person on this board could make a list of their own…artists or bands who never made it, whatever the circumstances…Moby Grape are in my Top 5.

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    DaveStrang brought up Moby Grape....

    ....ohhh shit. Ten Years After are there as well.

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    Definitely Dave's Picks worthy. I cannot believe this has not been released yet. Great performance, great recording. Did I miss something?

    What?? Your third show? Lucky dog. Do tell.

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    I've weaned myself from 3 10s down to 3 5s…will hopefully get off completely in the future.

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    Last 5…Why not?

    Last 5 GD:

    1. 11/7/69 Fillmore Auditorium - SF, Ca. - not as revered as DP16 11/8/69, but a fine show nonetheless. I was wondering why this wasn't a 4 show run? 11/8/69 was a Saturday which if I remember correctly was the Deadcrew 'dose' night and could be the reason for the X factor behind this show.

    2. 5/26/93 Road Trips Vol. 2 #4 - I forgot how good the 2nd set is, but 'Box Of Rain' reminded me why PL should never handle lead vocals again…

    3. 5/26/77 Baltimore, Md - My 3rd show... a sleeper (imo) from the much lauded Spring '77 tour…another potential DaP?

    4. 4/24/72 Dusseldorf, West Germany E72 Tour…'nuff said.

    5. Ladies & Gentlemen…The GD: 4/25-29/71 - a little musical detective work needed to be done: 'Casey Jones' is played at 4 of the 5 shows (4/25-27/71 & 4/29/71). I listened to the 5 shows and 'Casey' closes the four 1st sets with BW or JG saying 'Set Break' etc. 'Casey' on L & G has PL saying 'Thank ya New York' followed by Bill Graham praising the virtues of GD. This leads me to believe it's not just the end of the show but the end of the 5 night run… so where does PL fit in to it? It's actually evidence of the studio wizardry of both Jeffrey Norman (mixing) & Rudson Shurtleff (asst. engineer). PL says 'Thank ya New York' at the end of the 'UJB' 1st encore on 4/29! A great compilation and a little GD mystery…

    Last 5 (Actually 6) non-GD...all released/recorded 1967:
    1. Moby Grape - 1st S/T…these guys should have been as popular as GD/JA/BB & HC (imo).
    2. The Byrds - Younger Than Yesterday
    3. Miles Davis - Sorcerer
    4. Elizabeth Cotten - Shake Sugaree
    5. The Strawbs w/Sandy Denny - All Our Own Work (1967 Demos)
    6. Gene Clark w/The Gosdin Bros. - 1st S/T…when he left the Byrds they lost more than a lead vocalist.

    Damn I love music!

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    5s or 10s? ;-)

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    Dark Star wins

    :)))

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    TOO's vs DS's....

    ....one could scribe a thesis.
    Box set announcement next week. I feel it in my bones.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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And a big Sunny Rocky Mnt. how do you do!
Nice to see Wjones and the always entertaining CaseyJ back with us.....
CJ, was worried you some how smuggled in your magic carpet, got turned on to some ultra government top secret veggies, lifting off somewhere between HCS and Dark Star, and decided to fly the length of the Columbia, eventually needing to crash in some uncharted PNW forest, only to be kiddnaped by a secret clan of Uber Sasquatch....”ancient alien theorist say yes!” Who we’re so high, intelligent and kind that we would never hear from the likes of you again, not that there’d be anything wrong with that lol
Couldn’t help but pick up on the less than Bolo type clue about “we weren’t listening to the return bus instructions” ha, bet a few of us here know where that’s going! Lol

BOX: yep, looking like whoever said the announcement was going to be after Dave’s 31 is gonna win the prize...
Prize you say? .......yea,
“Upon your death you will receive divine consciousness.....which is nice”

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Its not a matter of snoozing and losing

Its about a SHITBRAINED SYSTEM AND LAMENESS ON THE PART OF THE PTB AT THE GORGE.

luckily for you all, i am headed to work...keeping my day job and all that

Have a pleasant day, y'all

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“My mom let me go to Grateful Dead shows when I was 12 or 13 years old. The things that taught me,” Austin told Relix in 2009. “And I think about these kids – it’s like a sense of community, a different sense of giving and caring – we’re all here together. If you create something, you’ll have this beautiful bubble that will occur.”

Read more: https://relix.com/news/detail/in-memoriam-jeff-austin/#ixzz5rt4azryg

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What a bummer. Heard over the weekend he was in the hospital. These guys got me hooked into bluegrass in 2001-2002 era, and I was lucky to see them a bunch in the early aughts. Jeff was unquestionably the leader of that band. He was a great songwriter and a better singer. Time to put on an old Yonder show.

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The link to the book was cool. It reminds me of the stories I have had traveling with the dead in the 80's. It is like losing a faithful dog that was always there to make sure you were ok. You never forget those times. Some people may think it's just a concert but it was more then that. Those people would not understand unless they were there.

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Right on!

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I told you all I have been exploring 1974 much more since accepting the sonic issues that go along with it. I'm full blown rampage now, which is ironic considering my last full blown rampage was 1974.

I have also observed there are only about a half-dozen Dark Stars from 74. That is almost a criminal act.

What I don't get is the popularity of DaP 2 Dillon Stadium. Awful audio. Is it simply because it's hard to get that it's so expensive on eBay? The show doesn't sound like anything special to me, maybe the poor audio is not helping. Can we all agree it's one of the worst sounding shows of 74?

And I will be needing rankings of all Eyes of the World from this year. I've come to the conclusion that they are the best ones, but if 73 needs to be included then so be it. Not interested in two drummer Eyes unless it's One from the Vault.

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Greek Theatre, 15, 16, 17 July 1988 just arrived today. It doesn't sound as good as a Normanized Plangent deal, but it sounds pretty good for a radio broadcast. Six discs for a little over thirty dollars.

Slaked my thirst while waiting for the box announcement. Not to mention the announcement is just the dangling of the carrot... the ship date can't be before Fall '19, at this point.

Jerry's vocal on the seldom played "Believe It Or Not," is extremely soulful. I'm just sayin'.

\m/

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11/17/73 is my favorite '73 version so far.

Coattail Skeletons 7/19/74 has a Dyno-MITE version.

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Now I'm thinking it may be the long awaited Boston Ark 69 shows. It's the 50th anniversary of the shows and Bolo said it's "about time those incredible shows were released". Bolo's clues may be hinting at Noah's Ark.
From Bolo's post:
Religious references: "grace of God", "glorious", "soul"
Storm reference: "Kesey's Thunder Machine"
Animal references:
1. "China"-----China CAT
2. "dark side of the moon"-----(pink floyd)-----ANIMALS
3. "Starbucks"------(Moby Dick)-----WHALE
4. "Cheetos"-----(Chester Cheetah)----CHEETAH

Right? Is anyone with me on this?

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Ark would be cooooool

What does a yellow dog say?

"Ark, man...Ark"

Your avatar is awesome

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....🤔 I have nothing.
Wait. Liberace tickled the ivories. Tusks are made of ivory. ELEPHANTS!
i still have nothing....

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May 77 - Number 3 Palladium April 29-May 4!
1st Leg April '78 Curtis Hixon>Huntington,WV 4-16-1978 What about Sporto?

June '85
OR
June '91

Alaska '80? Msg '79 or '81?

P.S. Mike Edwards, Mr, Pid, dstache, OneMan, ComicBodger, Space Face? I beg you call the tune... :-)\\

Stuart Walker? sherbear? marye? monsieur Joe EVERYONE?

Happy Summer and carpe diem...

Love, Jeff

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9/11 at Alexandra Palace is a good one. Very long, very spacy. After 1974 they always seemed in too much of a hurry when they played it. The 1976 ones especially-too fast, too short. And that seemed to set the template for the song for ever after.

Multi-track from October 1969 or April 1971

Could be something from Fillmore West 1970 acoustic electric

Or more from 1989. Philadelphia Spectrum 3 shows

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Hey looking for someone to pick up an extra pin from a couple shows. Anyone going to Bristow , Charlotte , Atlanta or Dallas ? I had plans to go to Bristow , Charlotte and Atlanta but my dog had heart attacks last week. Had to cancel all plans and keep him company

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Hopefully it’s a spectacularly Plangentized offering.

The real worry is Vault safety. Hopefully Warner has a better fire prevention system than Universal Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8517618/universal-music-fir…

High Time to pick up the pace of releases, that way if something does happen in the future hopefully all the good sounding shows will have already been released.

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I probably won't be able to get the box...my wife looks at me strangely

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Wow, that article is sad. Especially Cheech and chong and rodney dangerfield. The Captain and tennille not so much.

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And what about Spinal Tap.....I was really hoping they’d rerelease an audiophile version of Smell the Glove!

CAPTCHA sux. I can handle one screen of "find the bikes, ya damn fool", but 6 screens of buses, crosswalks, and festering sores is too much.

It's not like we are trying to hack into Fort Knox or something

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First Girl of the North Country since 8/27/14 tonight in Stockholm (also first Can't Wait since 2012).

Not my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFCERlqVPo

Sounding good. The Can't Wait is nice too...sounds like Stayin' Alive, haha. Waiting for a late summer / fall US announcement.

Anyone check out the new Rolling Thunder Revue box and Netflix special?

Gonna catch Dead & Company in ATL this weekend. Saw the Stones last Friday, first and only time for me. Worth it! Amazing that Mick had a valve in his heart replaced two months ago, he was all over the stage non-stop like it was the 70s. I got winded putting on the t-shirt I bought at the show.

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Just saw your post, I can check in Atlanta if you still need it. Thoughts to your dog!!! You are prioritizing correctly.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-…

Here's an article I had just read before coming over here, and, sure enough it's already being discussed. I can't believe UMG lost millions of masters and were able to keep it silent for 11 years. The exceedingly long list of artists who were impacted is truly sad. Buddy Holly, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, The Who, Tom Petty, The Carter Family, even a Martin Luther King, Jr speech that was recorded and released. Decca and Chess records. Unbelievable. Who knows what kind of brilliant work lay unreleased and unheard until the conflagration meant they would never be heard.

Also, I remember Dave made a joke on the Hofheinz 11/18/72 release page about not being able to hear Hoyt Axton Explodes without a turntable, though now it may be impossible for them to even think about a re-release as his masters are also thought to have been destroyed. I hope the artists get a massive settlement from UMG, which is worth $33 billion.

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In All in the family season 6 'Archie, the babysitter'. Gloria hires a babysitter and the babysitters boyfriend who comes over to hang out with her, brings over 2 albums. One is Blues for Allah and the other is the rolling stones. You can see both sides of B.F.A album with jerry and the band and the front pretty clearly. The boyfriend says " I brought over the grateful dead and the Rolling stones" and Archie says "yeah I've heard of those grave diggers before". Good episode.

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I was shocked to read this, never heard about it. Very sad indeed.

You can never believe they don't have fire system in these places and take a greater value in the stuff they have.

The BBC tossed out a chunk of Doctor Who's cause they needed the storage?

A wild spec I heard years ago on TCM was that 1/2 the movies made before 1950 are GONE.

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I think the films were watched over by people who don't give a shit. Then you get people like Dave L. And the others who protect their music and concerts with love and respect like they should be treated.

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....first I've heard of this as well. 100,000 masters? Oops indeed. Note to selves. Celluloid does not handle heat very well. That's why I keep mine in Montana. On the Canadian border. As Red Foreman would say, "dumbasses!"
One of my favorite TV dads. Up there with Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

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NOT THE ASIA MASTERS!!!!!

But seriously, it's the greatest prog-gone-pop-rock album ever. Credit where it's due - producer Mike Stone pulled that record out of his ass.

I would have said maaaaybe Duke was better, but they crossed the line with Dukes Travels
- that song is as progressive rock as 1980 could possibly sound.

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Hot Rize~Take It Home
String Cheese 9-3-98 Strawberry Music Fest.,Camp Mather~Yosemite,California
Herbie Hancock~Head Hunters
G.D. 4-14-71 Lewisburg,Pennsylvania
Hot Tuna 71-7-3 Fillmore~San Fran.
:O)

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Listening to the Englishtown half step this morning and towards the end of an absolutely fantastic version was brought to tears during the Rio grande refrain at the thought of that father and daughter picture from earlier this week .
Come on Donald stop being such a bell end and cut these guys some slack , the worlds not just a rich mans playground .

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As much as I have issues with the current administration, people come to this lil' area to escape all that.

May God welcome the father and daughter's souls to heaven. I am sincere in that.

Please let this board be a refuge from the ills of the world (wake up to find out that there's lots of ills in the world).

Grateful for life
Dead for life
Grateful Dead promote life
"the Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb" - Joseph Campbell

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Sorry , never meant to bring politics onto this site - it’s not even something I’m that bothered about anymore - as we say over here “ same shit different colour “ I guess the music caught up with me .

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I think you have to at least put 6/18/74 on the list of top performances in the 73/74 period.

I have to say.. although I do like 73/74 versions the most.. it is one of the few songs where the rearrangement did not ruin it for me. There are some true gems post hiatus. I believe it to be one of the better original songs in their cannon. When I used to hear the opening chords at shows, I perked up a bit and paid attention. It rarely disappointed.

ok. Back to your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

(Edit: Or Eyes>China Doll) :D

she refers to Jerry as "their vocalist and lead guitarist" (vocalist...singular...and listed ahead of guitar)

as I have said before: I don't listen to the GD for the vocals.

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