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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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September 10, 2021 - 3:39pm

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bluecrow

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4/9/87 UIC

yeah - it was a fun show :)

looking forward to 11/30/79 - only familiar with its crazy twin brother

a fun bit of in person banter was at the Jerry and John Kahn show at the Auditorium 7/1/82. Deep in the 2nd set and all sorts of folks are are yelling "Ripple, play Ripple" Then someone yells "Play what you want!" Jerry replies Thank You. And then he plays Ripple.
September 10, 2021 - 9:11am

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DeadVikes

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87 and Today's Pick

87 is always welcome at my house. 4/9/87 must have been a fun show to be at Bluecrow. The version I listened to was decent, but needed a little work.

On to 11/30/79 today, per Proudfoot's recommendation.

Enjoy it.

I love the banter you hear on some of these shows. Especially with people yelling out requests all night long. That must have drove them crazy at times. I think it was Dick's 31, where Bob said quite yelling out songs we already played idiot.
September 9, 2021 - 7:29am

#3243

Dennis

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Blue Crow - 1987-04-09 - UIC Pavilion - Chicago, IL

Thanks for the heads-up on this show. I agree this Charlie Miller was better than the copy I had in stock. My copy has now been replaced.

Thanks
September 9, 2021 - 6:32am

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bluecrow

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4/7/87

4/7 - Nice pick, I enjoyed it, totally new to me, set list and everything. Ultramatrix was good, maybe a little heavy on the crowd at times. Band sounded in fine form. I thought Jerry was engaged and sharp. Song selection and placement seemed unusual at times. Stagger Lee always seems like a rarity. West LA, Bucket > Don't Ease closing the first set?! Really liked the Box of Rain to open Set II. To have that followed by Miracle > Bertha - once again would never have seen that coming. And did anyone catch Jerry teasing a bit of Slipknot at the beginning of space?? Just a couple of lines but unmistakable - to me at least :) Strong closing sequence to the show. Sounded like The Wheel was going to drop in before Gimme Some Lovin.

4/9 - don't have a source to straight up recommend. Since I last really looked there is a new Ultramatrix remaster by Charlie Miller that I think replaces the "mediocre"board I referenced. The relatively recent FOB shnid 148683 hessberg/miller/clugston seemed like a solid audience. I'll have to do some more sampling today.

Follow up: listening to Set I of 4/9 Miller Ultramatrix and that source does the trick. As Jim said - Healy liked a little SBD with his audience mics.

Yeah '87 was a tasty vintage. Enjoy the day everyone. Onward!!
September 9, 2021 - 6:24am

#3245

wilfredtjones

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4/9 UIC

Nice call from '87. I was always familiar with 4-11, a couple nights later FM broadcast. BTW, 4-7 was one of the one's that helped get me on the bus. Also, 5-10-87 Laguna Seca is fun. There's a lot to like in '87 with a rejuvenated Garcia and pre-midi 80's spaces, which I like.

Thanks and have a Grateful Day everyone! :-)
September 8, 2021 - 9:35pm

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DeadVikes

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April 87

I thought 4/7/87 was a good show. Recording and performance were good. Nothing mind blowing but I love hearing Box of Rain to open the second set and a Morning Dew in the mix. Quinn the Eskimo to close.

Fun shows in 87 and yes for sure got the feeling things were turning. I felt it in Alpine in June. Great memories. I can still hear that Feel like a Stranger and Tons of Steel.

Let's do the 4/9/87 next. Sounds great to me Bluecrow.

Pretty sweet you were able to see Dead & Co Jim. Sounds like a fun time. I know I would go if they came anywhere near us out here.

We probably should take a look at that 11/30/79 show per Proudfoot's recommendation. You don't have to twist my arm for a 79 show. Maybe Friday?
September 8, 2021 - 10:47am

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JimInMD

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Show

The show was good, but I think not as bright as the NE shows before. A fun opening to the First Set, and the highlights of the second were a solid Althea and a nice second set Viola sandwich that meandered quite a bit going in and out of a funky psychedelic/blues approach to that crazy old jug band blues tune. The judge decreed it....

It was more crowded than I had hoped.. we got what was likely one of more discrete spots on the lawn under an old oak tree in the back, top part of the lawn. There was a stiff breeze all night coming down on us, so we mostly had what I would call almost fresh air.. still... being fully vaccinated and taking precautions there were risks. This was a redo show from last year so we all bought these tix pre pandemic.

Anyway.. it was great to see live music again, I just wish there was less risk. My fear is not getting myself sick but accidentally being part of the spread, so I will treat this next week very gingerly and stay away from everyone including those in my family (that are all also vaccinated). It's a good week to do outside wood working projects and long bike rides.... pistol packing lot's of GD of course.
September 8, 2021 - 10:38am

#3248

Oroborous

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87

It is..might take me a few days to sneak it in.
Used to work in empty houses much of the time, so I could play tunes...ironically, with the vid, I hardly get empty houses these days, Dooaahh! Lots of folks moving here more full time to get away, and many have been staying much longer than usual. Murphy’s law!

I hear ya Jim, We’ve got tix for Phil next week, but the way things are turning I’m getting a tad freaked.
Doubt the misses is going to risk it as she’s not really a fan. Thinking I might try to sell our inside seats and try and snag a lawn seat. I’d probably just not go but don’t know how long the ole dog has left and don’t get to see much of these kinda shows in our backyard.
But how was the show? Was it crowded, and how would you describe the demographic etc?

Bluecrow: nice to see ya!
What are your thoughts on those GWF 89 shows?
I believe my cousin said they were great, but I’ve never heard em...or maybe I’m thinking of the ones earlier?
89 being a top fav needs more investigation. Still not too familiar with spring and end of year...
September 8, 2021 - 9:46am

#3249

JimInMD

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mmm

I smell a twofer. Add in the fun 66 show OroB tossed out last week and have a DB Hattrick.

This town ain't got no heart you say? You just gotta poke around.

Saw the boys last night at Blossom. Seemed risky to me, as safe as I tried to be. It was great to see live music for the first time in a couple of years though.. Fingers crossed, hope my levels of prevention worked...

Edit: Knocked out the first set of 4/7. In the same spirit as Dave's Picks 36. Healy liked a little soundboard with his audience mics in Ultra Matrix mixes in '87. You can hear the energy though.. The Jerry's Back tour for the East Coast.
September 8, 2021 - 8:20am

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bluecrow

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4/7/87 or should I say 4/9?

DV - not familiar with that one but I was at the next show of the tour 4/9 at the UIC Pavillion and that second set kicked ass in that straight ahead '87 "we're back!!" sort of way. My first show post jerry coma and a great way to usher in a whole bunch of excellent shows that I saw in '87. From what I remember the Healy matrix is sorta mediocre so maybe go audience. The UIC shows were the only ones from the spring tour that weren't East Coast and I think they fly a little under the radar.

Been distracted with house stuff last little bit. Started in yesterday on Dane Co '73 but didn't get very far.

Had another POTD near miss with that Shoreline May 91show. I caught the 3 Cal Expo shows right before it - only CA shows I saw except 12/89 at GWF in LA. Should have stuck around for Shoreline. Bruce had prior commitment during Cal Expo so i think they turned out to be first Vince-only shows after those first few shows in Fall 90(?) I never got to see Bruce as a member of the band but funny thing was I saw him sit in twice before Brent passed on - at Buckeye Lake 6/88 and Great Western Forum 12/89.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Orange Sunshine

I remember Buffalo '90 we had motel room like right across the street from the stadium I know it was in walking distance. Anyway we went up a day ahead and went to The Anchor Bar for wings and pizza. Then we went to The Falls Canadian side my buddy had family up there. That night we got back to the room we took the bed spread off the beds and went down where they were camping and stayed up all night eating Orange Sunshine and drinking Fosters.

1969-05-23 - Road Trip!

I know it’s a surprise, but the Highlight = Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight

The Infamous Dark Star Suite of ’69!

Dark Star
If I waxed poetic, I’d go on and on about this Dark Star, but mostly I wanna say, it’s got the Vibraslap, and I love the Vibraslap, especially in Dark Star, and therefore I love this Dark Star.

St. Stephen!
Can’t beat a Classic Version like this. You get the Xylophone, Cannon, William Tell Bridge, it’s all there. This is a great St. Stephen of old.

The Eleven
It’s good! Crazy good you ask? Well.. Crazy good might be a bit much, but it’s good I say!

Turn On Your Lovelight
Sir Ron McKernan aka Pigpen with his blues and soul. I’ve come to feel that Pigpen is a tragic figure, and the band would forever change with his passing, but here he is young and alive and that’s how I like to remember him.
Cause she’s got Box-backed nitties… what’s he say?!?!? (Let’s leave that for the scholars)
Calm down Bobby.. it’s no time for screaming like that!

Alright, well.. that was fun.
I guess I should put on the next show and follow my bliss.
5/24/69 you’re up next…

Note:
When they rehearsed and played St. Stephen with regularity, like in 1969, it was such an amazing song.. alas Jerry would remark that he felt that the song was a cop and due to that and less time spent rehearsing, St. Stephen would leave the garden.

If you watch the Grateful Dead Movie with the director’s commentary, Susan Crutcher tells a pretty fascinating story about how, she wanted to include St. Stephen in the section with the photo montage and Jerry was like, we don’t even play that song anymore, and Susan said yeah but it’s sooo good. And while listening to the song repeatedly during the editing process, Jerry’s interest got peaked and that led to the band resurrecting the song in 1976. The story holds water as they were editing the movie in ’76 when St. Stephen came back. Not to mention Susan strikes me as a cool person who would have no reason to embellish a story like that. I found that to be pretty cool and wanted to share.

I love St. Stephen of old!

FOURWINDSBLOW: How much of that there Orange Sunshine did you eat? That's the question...

GOGD-OSS

Enough! That's all I'm saying.

There were just the three of us out of ten that went to the camping site, we were the crazed of the group. The next morning when we went back to the motel room waking everyone up with a hearty breakfast of Orange Sunshine.

Good Show! CSN and The Dead! We went in early and sat right up in front of Jerry.

RE: OSS

FWB - That sounds like Good Times!

You seen that Doc on Orange Sunshine? Pretty fascinating.

That and Heads by Jesse Jarnow.

So much info. Such a Taboo subject... You gotta love it!

Oh Yeah

I just remembered that right before set 2 the band on the stage and the camera rolling a camera guy center stage got me giving the thumbs up as he panned the crowed I know he saw me cause he smiled. Hope it makes it on the official video.

7/16/90

Check out Bucket> Half Step if ya wanted to listen to more that would be okay.

https://archive.org/details/gd1990-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16/…

I have a cool story about taking mexican quaaludes at a show....

....I'll fill you in later.
I have a pick to throw into the ring. It's not official, and I'm sure most have you have heard it, although maybe not in a long time (like me). 10.16.81 Club Melk Weg. Amsterdam. Bobby's birthday. One acoustic set. One electric. Borrowed instruments. High AF on hashish. Lovelight bustout after nine years. It's a really fun show. My two sense.
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-16.sbd.miller.110351.flac16/gd81-…

Taboo Subject, Let the Good Times Roll

Not sure why this would be a taboo subject here.. the band certainly didn't try to hide it. Besides.. most of this is folklore by now, happening between 55 and 25 years ago. It could be just because I am old and in the way.. but you don't see or hear of it that much these days.

I enjoy reading peoples stories, most of which (probably all that are told on these threads) by far predate any statute of limitation. Like it or leave it, this is American and World History. Let the good times roll (deja que los buenos tiempos pasen, deixe os bons tempos rolarem, laissez le bon temps rouler).

Edit: Speaking of LSD, I finished discs 1 and 2, 3 later. Still one of my favorite 69 releases behind FW and Fillmore Auditorium. I agree with the Good Ole GD.. disc one probably delivers the goods and is the highlight, but my favorite is disc 2 simply because He Was a Friend of Mine > The Eleven speaks to me... As for disc three, I have never met a Morning Dew or an Alligator I did not like. Even the squatty little yeller one with no tail.

vguy 10/16/81 Melk Weg

There was a video of both shows on Youtube, a few years ago, don't know if it is still out there!!

Back to Pow Wow....

....i never met an Alligator i didn't like, and i really like this one. Love the Feedback as well. Great show!!

Mmmmm.....Melk Weg

https://youtu.be/WvvYChZTXMw

https://youtu.be/b4p1zBuqYDk

5-23/24/69 Pow Wow RT 4.1(?)

I actually was awarded this for a prize back in 2010 for the inaugural version of 30 Days of Dead. It was on the 5th day and the song was Playing in the Band from 5/20/73 UCSB. As I recall it was a totally random guess! Funny the things we remember (and what we forget!)

Re: Pow Wow

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Pow Wow Wow

Had a good time listening to 5/23 & 24/69 today.

The opening Lovelight almost seems to be a prankster response to the rookie mc telling people to be seated... never trust a prankster.

All the banter is fun. The difference between the closing Lovelight & opening Lovelight was interesting as well.
The opening Lovelight seemed to be much more exploratory with different themes being introduced, especially around 14:30, Jerry gets into a cool groove. The Drums > St. Stephen transition was a trip too.

Good stuff all around.

Milkweg is cool, I like Milkweg

11/17/73 Dap 5 is calling me too, I can feel it's pull.

WILFREDTJONES - 30 Days, look forward to it every year, and that's a good prize! Thanks Dead.net for being cool.

JIMINMD - I agree! That subject should not be taboo. May the human exploration into the cosmos and beyond continue!

Alright you all, keep on rockin' looking forward to the next pick here and in my mailbox.. shipping noticed received!

Be Well

Tomorrow's Pick

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Jimbo, good to see you over here. Time for a pick. Send us one.

Still no shipping notice here.

Pick

Oh,.. the pressure. I am not good at this. But since we are on the best sounding of the road trips. I would humbly suggest either the WOS road trips (6/18/74) or the 5/15/70 Road Trips.

If I had my way.. I would pick Louisville 74 in honor of the eminent release (Road Trips Vol 2 No 4). One other ask.. on or about the first received date of the next Dave's Picks. Would it be possible / make sense to hold this show open for a week so both the folks that get it first have time to comment and the folks that get a day (or six) later have time to participate? Seems reasonable to me. So a week and day of 1974?

Pick

We could do 'From Egypt With Love?' Mix it up a little.

Real great Stella Blue even with the audience patch.

Pick TOO

I want to pick a show Vguy saw. It was his second and it cooks!

Jim's Pick

Good choice, let's do The RT.2.3. Shows from 6/16 and 6/18 74.

I like your idea for Dave's #34.

FourWinds, let's hit up The From Egypt with Love RT tomorrow. 10/21 and 10/22 78. I have not listened to this one in a while.

Thanks guys.

Deadvikes Egypt with love tomorrow

How funny i was grilling last night and I listened to half of the first CD!! Now i have a reason to listen to the rest.. bob t

orange sunshine

there was orange sunshine in the 90's? I only remember it back in the 60's and early 70's and it was the bomb, 4 way hits, which meant you only needed to take a quarter of a hit and they were kinda small, so it was quite easy to take a bit too much. :o fun times indeed. Did some yellow sunshine back then too, it was suppose to be 8 way, never did more than a crumb of that stuff, talk about mind blown. They don't make it like that anymore.
Mexican quaaludes, mandrax I think they were called, not the same as 714's but still lots of fun, they had an antihistamine in the mix to help keep you awake the first 30 mins or so, then it was all fun and stumbling and falling and laughing and feeling invincible, sure wish they hadn't outlawed that drug, one on my favorites. Ever try ludes and acid together? wow, what an experience that was, add some black nepalese hash on top and you are now in heaven. Back in those days, it was ok to have a trove of drugs, like Hunter Thompson said in fear and loathing:
"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." and push it we did.

O S

If it wasn't O S it was very good and very clean. After our first dabble we stayed up all night looking for the girl that had it bought a bunch and ate it all day. Don't want to put misinfo out there but, thats what she called it, we had a good time.

6.18.74 sounds most excellent (Wyld Stallyns guitar riff)....

....cueing it up now on the Archive (i don't own the physical copy). Avatar updated. Four winds says he wants top pick a show i saw? I recently listed my attended shows if you want to look. Just don't choose 5.19.95. Yuck. Vocal drop outs during the Freedom Hall Promised opener. Good ole Wall Of Sound.

Vguy

Check your PM.

Wall of Sound

Many happy Road Trips over the years. Just finishing 5/23/69 lovelight . Amazing all the changes from live-dead era into Workingman’s era , nothing short of phenomenal creative drive.
There were a few lackluster Dead shows in the 70s ,but I never went to one back then that was less than amazing.
Would like to see a board tape of UCSB May 74 with Great American String Band set official release. Maria was real hot also. 74 was a banner year.
Seminole Powwow kicked ass. Dark Star was super improvisational . The 11 was exciting . Love-Light was also reflective of the youthful vigor of the band at that time.
Miss Indian World ,Cheyenne Kippenberger 2019-2021, is from the Hollywood , Florida Band of Seminole Tribe. Met her in Albuquerque during Gathering of Nations Powwow a year ago. She’s a real good person from one of the strongest of all the tribes in the country.
I still nominate 5/2/70 for this Saturday on its 50th anniversary .

Vguy

I suggested the 2nd ever show you saw. I thought this show had some unique Jerry playing on it especially for the time period. If we don't get to listen to it I'll understand but, maybe you can give your take on it I thought it was good for the time.

Ps. Fun fact, though I've never counted till today I got 28 of the 39 I saw on video.

You mean Anaheim Stadium?....

....it's View From The Vault 1. Maybe a video of the day with discussion is in order?
6.18.74's Ramble-On Rose was so good, i played it twice!!
pm checked

Meet Up At The Movie

Quarantine style. Sounds good!

Pick has Started = Contact High

Alright, firing up 6/16/74 and already WOW on Sound Quality and playing on China Cat..

My Completist OCD has prevented me from frequent listening of this & from Egypt with Love.
It might be cool to hear them both again in their compilation order... already struggling with the whole notion of rearranged songs.. Deep Breath.. they sound good.

Talking about Orange Sunshine, Mexican Quaaludes, Ludes & Acid, HST gave me a nice Contact Buzz!

Thanks UNKLE SAM & FWB for that.. Keep ‘em coming.

I was still tripping from the Great Pow Wow! Both nights rocked real good. I dug that.

He Was A Friend & Death Don't were real good too hear again, along with all the rest of that psychedelic stuff.

Good times!

Meet Up At The Movies Quarantine Style sounds Awesome!

Shake up the Shakedown Stream.. with a little bonus footage:)

This Eyes sounds real nice..

EDIT: And 5/2/70 Anniversary sounds promising as well!!

The Logistics....

....to have everyone cue up View From The Vault at the same time would be incredibly incredible. Zoom Meeting?!

RE:VGUY72 - Zoom Meeting

Bad Ass!

ZoooooooooooM!....

....I'm considered essential, but I'm off this Saturday and Sunday. jUSt SaYIn'.

6/16

Eyes, Playin. Nice! Nobodys Jam, now were going old school. Love it!

RE: Zoom Vault View

VGUY - Saturday works for me! PST

And 6/16 Eyes > Stronger Than Dirt > Big River is super!

Keith's piano... is he using a pedal or what's going on there?

Video pick?

If nobody has interest in the '87 Anaheim second choice would be in honor of the resident care-taker of the Vault, the man on the inside. With Dave's very first pick 'Truckin' Up To Buffalo' '89.

RE: Video Pick?

FWB - 4/10/20 - Shakedown Stream was "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" but 7/7/89 "Crimson White & Indigo" might have you in the crowd somewhere? Haven't seen that in awhile.

I'm down for View From The Vault V1 or '87 or whatever, just maybe something other than "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" as I just watched that recent. Just sayin'

DL said this week Shakedown Stream would be Closing of Winterland.

Alright, stoked to hear this 6/16/74 PITB for 28 minutes, but gotta wait till later and take care of some business first...

Be Well you All

GOGD

Yeah I forgot they did the '89 show but , The one I was talking about that i could be on film was Buffalo '90. Sorry for any confusion. JFK '89 we were in the bleachers half way back Jerry, Brent side.

I have the opener and the main act on audience video from Buffalo '90.

6/18/74

Had to cue this one up on archive too, (and will tomorrow's "From Egypt" pick.) I really don't know why I slept on these Road Trip releases - I guess I was put off by the cut-up nature. Oh well - LMA is a-ok with me :) Just now on "Roses."

I had to run out for my weekly grocery trip yesterday, and Sirius was playing "To Lay Me Down" from Jai-Alai - sounded very good, though I am not sure if it was the soon to be delivered version or not.

I know that many here already know this, but if not, the Freedom Hall show "Eyes" is the version that Holly Bowling does on solo piano. She apparently transcribed the whole jam. I have never directly compared them note for note, but her version is really great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLdRQ-19dc

EDIT: She actually does her own "version" of the verses, but the jam is transcribed. On "BTW" and it looks like the WoS has settled in and is sounding better - still some vocal drops, but the band sounds incredible!

Peace