Dave's Picks Volume 36: Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87)

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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November 17, 2020 - 9:58am

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DeadVikes

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Double Post!

Double Post!
November 17, 2020 - 9:47am

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JimInMD

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Two From the Vault

I don't think Don recorded it.. but they were stuck with these multi-track master reels with major leakage between input sources that created timing sync interference between the instruments and vocals. I think there is much mention of this on the liner notes, what he figured out how to do is estimate the timing differences and edit out the interference using technologic wizardry.

Before this, the band considered the by then ancient tapes unusable, to my ears now, they sound magnificent.

I will dig up the liner notes and either create a new post or edit this one hopefully later today. Up to my elbows in alligators right now doing something else far less interesting.....

And Jeff and GFar, completely agree - many thanks.
November 17, 2020 - 9:31am

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JeffSmith

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Dr. Don's obit

Hey Gary, Good points and great perspective. Don Pearson's obituary, published by the Audio Engineering Society, may add some detail about Dr. Don's relationship with the Grateful Dead and the ultra matrix mystery:
https://www.aes.org/aeshc/jaes.obit/JAES_V54_3_PG245.pdf Yup, lots of fascinating and unexpected rabbit holes to explore.
The technicalities of sound engineering are way beyond my pay grade, but it appears to me that Dave's 36 derives from soundboard and audience recordings made by Dan Healy and Don Pearson that were fed/"baked" together on tape in real time in the 'Ultra Box' during the show. In 2020 this limited Jeffrey Norman's options during remastering.
Regardless of how off-base I may be on its source tapes, I love the heightened sense of the crowd that embellishes this release. For me the integral aud gives a cool alternative to the 'clean' soundboard recordings we all love. Not better or worse, just a different way of hearing the music in context – wouldn't mind getting one of these every now and then, especially when 'pure' soundboards don't exist.
November 17, 2020 - 9:09am

#354

Vguy72

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I found something!...

https://www.etsy.com/shop/Afamilywelcome?ref=search_shop_redirect
....figured I'd share, because sharing is caring.
November 17, 2020 - 8:36am

#355

Gary Farseer

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With you Jim

Let's storm the vault as a Valkyrie with flight of the Valkyries blaring.

I did not realize that 2 from the vault was Mr. Peason's work, but I now doubt it one bit. As far as my earlier post, I guess Mr. Pearson may have in deed been on the band's payroll, until 1978 when he started Ultrasound. It would make sense that he and John Meyer would have toured with the early tours. Probably not primal Dead but shortly thereafter. I don't know, but at least it provides another avenue, with unlimited rabbit holes, for us heads to research. I doubt any band has as much underbelly to be discovered as Grateful Dead has.

Hope your copy shows up soon, mine arrived on 10/29. Hope everyone gets theirs soon! This was originally going to be an edit of first post, but then saw your post.

G
November 17, 2020 - 8:34am

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proudfoot

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help me, fellow Deadheads

I am in an un-Dead phase. an "anything but the GD" phase.

I have tried palate cleansing, no GD for a few days.

Nothing.

I will live. but I miss that GD vibe.

It will probably come back eventually. "take a vacation, fall out for a while"

oh, the trials we face in life, eh?
November 17, 2020 - 8:15am

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JimInMD

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Pearson

Let's not forget, he brought us Two From the Vault. He was somewhat of a sound genius.

I probably misused the term Ultra Matrix in a post a couple weeks ago, and I don't have my physical copy of 36 yet so am not reading whatever it is they put there (it's currently in Jupiter and beyond the infinite, hopefully it will make it home soon)..

I still think this was culled from the source cassette master which was a mix of soundboard and two stereo audience mics by Dan. Many of the 87 soundboards have a similar sound ..but I could be wrong. It's a decent release which has gotten a couple good listens by now. Which begs the comment.. we need more GD.. when do we get our next show? We need a new release now! (let's get together people and storm the vault, who's with me?) Ark Ark
November 17, 2020 - 8:01am

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Gary Farseer

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DaP 36 and Matrix

Not to beat a Dead horse, but I also did a little more research about this recording and the now famous Don Pearson. I am very happy that I wrote in my last post "Mr. Pearson" as he is/was not just a taper, he is a sound reinforcement giant. Mr. Pearson is the co-founder of Ultrasound, a company he helped start in 1978. Years back we were discussing Dick's Pick #5, Oakland Auditorium/Kaiser, and were discussing the sound system. I am a little fuzzy on this as I cannot find the documentation that at the time was on the tip of my fingers. Anyway, on December 26, 1979, the organization brought out a new P.A. system. My understanding is this was the first Ultrasound P.A. system that the fellas used. It was a marriage made in heaven as it was the Ultrasound backbone of course powered primarily by McIntosh amps with an exhaust system developed (and constantly evolving) by John and Helen Meyer at Meyer Sound. (Now I realize that documentation is on a very old computer that I still have but dont access hardly at all, guess it is time to fire it up, so to say.)

I doubt Mr. Pearson was ever on Grateful Dead's payroll, although maybe??? My reasoning is thus, as Grateful Dead and now D&C were/are the driving force in sound reinforcement for the whole industry, I would imagine that Mr. Pearson saw a lot of shows prior to starting Ultrasound. After starting Ultrasound, he would be working for Ultrasound to physically hear the outcome of his hard work. Since the December 26, 1979 show through today the organization has used the marriage of Meyer Sound and Ultrasound. Meyer being the hardcore engineers in reinforcement and Ultrasound being the developer of the various P.A. systems, meaning Ultra does the many P.A. configurations for various sizes of venues. Ultrasound would be the one looking at the venues and developing the P.A. for the tour involved (and of course, many uncountable bands/tours/venues).

I will try to fire up the old computer to find an article about Meyer/Ultra that was written in a trade magazine, but here is a partial read.

https://meyersound.com/news/fare-thee-well/

And anyway, here is another read on the marriage between these two organizations.

http://www.dozin.com/ultrasound/main.html

Any way, that is enough for this a.m. Although I do have more to write on the two organizations that are direct offshoots of Grateful Dead and how it relates to this release. Hopefully, time will allow me to do this later today.

Smiles to all, and be very careful out there, it is a deadly situation for all.

G
November 17, 2020 - 6:35am

#359

JimInMD

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Re: Ain't it just like the night, to play tricks

I caught the one the month before on the East Coast. What a terrific cover and a terrific song. This one only seemed to get better with age.

She Belongs to Me, another special Dylan cover. This one's acoustic and has Bob and Jerry swapping lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8obCnsw4c

Have a good Tuesday all.
November 17, 2020 - 4:49am

#360

billy the kid

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Bob Dylan Visions of Johanna / acoustic live

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dp3pBB6PUgw. I saw the Dead play this on 4/22/86 at the Berkeley Community Theatre, 2nd song of the night ,1st song was Box of Rain. that was cool.

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

About that....

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n. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed.
It was fun when I typed it. Looking back....
Still.

re: Fun Facts I, II

Other gigs?

37: Where's the video? (Dave's 2021)

PS: See it!

Subscription Video is up

Looks like the Feb pick for 2021 will be 4-15-78 - William and Mary

Betty Board

mmm

4/15/78?

YAHOO!

Excellent, excellent pick, Dave.

This is the reason I had to…

This is the reason I had to stop subscribing, I got a '76 show and an '83 show in the same subscription. Then a 14-disc '76 box-set and an '84 DaP and now this '87 DaP is just too much. You can't POSSIBLY be out of great gigs from '68 or '69 or '70 or '71 or '72 or '73 or '74 or '77 or '78 or '79 or '80 or '82 or '85 or '90, can you? That 08-21-68 / 08-22-68 would have been pretty good...

Affirmation without discipline is the beginning of delusion

FORENSICDOCELEVEN
Amen Brother!

April 78

I love shows from this time period - since we're talking fun facts, one thing i wanted to mention was the Dave's Picks from 4/22/78 (DaP 15 i think) is one of my favorite releases of all time and i play it several times a year. Looking forward to a great 2021 (god knows we need it).

'21 DAP Subscription

got the 2021 DAP announcement from dead net about 20 min. ago and I did it again.
Now I'm looking forward to a better next year (I'm sure music will be great, but that damn covid19 got to get away).
I'm happy the DAP series continues
Stay safe you all
G.

Great song.

https://youtu.be/ekzRpMHx6Ew

Eric Burdon-See See Carlo

One of the best blues/soul singers to come out of England. Recent clip of him on television - from Ready Steady Go! 1966 - sharing a stage with no less than Otis Redding, doing "Shake", is worth a look too.

In fact I have just watched it again on you tube. Hard to believe that popular music used to be THAT good.

Import Fees Alert

I do hope that the correct 1/4th purchase price that I paid for my Daves Picks 2020 subscription will be displayed for customs purposes on my posted Dave's Picks 36, and not the inflated version that has been posted on this site.
I will be none too happy to have to 'fork out' for taxes that I am not liable for.

Jerry Jeff Walker

RIP

Sydney - Import fees.

Naturally there are two prices for each Dave's Picks: 1/4 of the subscription price (less international shipping) and the a la carte price. I have never paid much attention to the stated value on the customs declaration as here, in the Netherlands, I don't get robbed by the customs as the price threshold for duty/tax is high enough that Dave's Picks get through without a problem. I am pretty sure that the shipping system isn't smart enough to know whether you are a subscriber or not. I have a suspicion that the a la carte price is what will be used but I am not certain. If that is the case then it may be an expensive pick for you and maybe for me too, for the first time.

Jerry Jeff

He made some great albums in the early 70's.

DaP #36

My copy is apparently on the way! Can’t wait to follow the long strange trip it will take.

Shipping notice received

And the wait begins.....

Dave

It is hard to believe that music by burden and the animals were and are still that great. I was playing see-see while walking sarge last night and could not help but yell out "See, see see rider"along with burden. I just dont understand why it's not played on the radio at all. Shipping notice received.

GS

Garcia Saunders Volume 15, May 21, 1971. To be released December 2020....finally something with heart and (true) electrical intentions. The vibrations and echoing magic of Garcia, with Crosby and Fierro, resonates through the river of blood that makes us human. And in that river we dance with our soul. Into the LIGHT.

Sweet!

You go Jay!

Trivia

Eric Burdon actually name checked the Dead in one of his songs-"Monterey" -"The Grateful Dead, Blew everybody's mind."

Shipping notice

Received. Tracking says here by Wednesday!

Just noticed that a cool limited Dave's Picks print with all the artwork was available. 100 pieces only. Wish I'd known about that.

Shipping Notice

Spacebrother

My tracking says

“UPS could not locate the shipment details for this tracking number. Details are only available for shipments made within the last 120 days. Please verify your information.”

I’m sure it will appear one day.

Happy Anniversary, Jay! All-chat is now on the sub page, right?

Jay, looks like you joined this chat group four years ago today!

To all--I believe we're taking this conversation to the DaP subscription page, true? See you there!

shipping notice received

:)))

#9968 has landed!

Wow. What a nice surprise. I always seem to get mine around a week late, so this is fantastic.

Landed!

9498. Yes, pleasantly surprised. Hah, was expecting some time before New Years!

No shipping notice for me yet....

....but I have faith. I've gotten shipping notices for dead.net stuff after I've already received the product. For all I know, it might be in my mailbox when i get home tonight.

I Need a Miracle

I'm super bummed I couldn't get a hold of the poster celebrating Volume 36...Help(on the way) I need a miracle!!!

Slow Dog Noodle

No way! Good for you. I haven't even received a shipping notification yet.

Let us know your thoughts?

Super-charged carrier pigeons

That was fast Slow Dog.

Mine says this weekend.
Which is good since last time I checked UPS didn’t have possession of the package.

Dave's 36 Essay & Vol. 38

What a wonderful essay... haven't listened yet but what a sweet reminiscence from Dave's first show. As for 38, apparently it's "a nod to a show that Dick was particularly high on." For whatever that's worth.

Latvala

...except that Dick was particularly high on almost every show, Dave too come to think of it.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Speaking of high (or hot).. I am trying my hand at fermenting my first hot sauce. Hoping for something similar too Sriracha. I plucked about four bushes of ripe and red serrano's, a healthy amount of cayenne and some Hungarian hot for good measure.. chopped em all up and started the fermentation process. I never wear gloves when I cut up peppers, but I think I overdid it this time. My hands are on fire. I have a gallon of finely chopped pepper puree. My hands are pinkish and just a tad swollen.

A half hour later after washing my hands with soap and water a few times..., if I simply touch my face or arms it immediately burns. Too funny.

There's a dragon with matches that's loose on the town.

Tried my hand at fermenting apples this year too.. I have three gallons that should be ready to drink in about a week. So far so good.

And don't rub your eyes!

Be careful and use gloves when you pee!!! Yeow!
Best of luck – sounds like great autumn fun! Bon appetit! Just curious: What show pairs nicely with a fresh batch of Nuclear Rooster Sauce? Onward.

DLat high on...

I say 10/11/77

10/11/77

It would be sweet to have the OU show in its entirety, but 5/17 of the show already got jigsawed into Road Trips 1.2. And while you're at it Dave, why not go all out and do a 7 show Box from 10/7 - 10/16/77 🤪

Rooster Sauce

BobT steered me towards the '74 Cow Palace Show. The most I listen to it the more I like it. I had forgotten just how hot the China Rider was for example.. well, China Rider on. Like 10/11/77.. I wish it was released as a full show. Glad they grew out of that phase.

Landed

#9974 landed just now. Very excited to rip into this - packaging is extra fat for the double show! Nice work Dave and Co. and looking forward to DaP 2021.

Got a shipping notice

With the new address, so hopefully no worries with this one, which would be ironic given the multitude of issues on the last six orders, I think. Also looking forward to American Beauty's arrival from Mr Bezos. Had 12+ hours of driving over the weekend, and after a failed experiment in listening to a bunch of Jack Straws from the Dave's Picks series and went 15 4/22/78, 26 11/17/71, 11 11/17/72, 9 5/14/74, 25 11/6/77, and started 21 4/2/73 when exhaustion set in. No fault of the Dead's, had been up til at least 1 every night for almost a month packing some stuff after work, and had gone the previous night until 4, then up at 7:45 to get the rest loaded with some good friends from church and my brother. Finished about 1, ate, showered, hit the road and a bad time for an Evolution of Jack Straw Seminar. My wife encouraged me to listen to something lively, so I blasted some Fall 1969 Who SBDs, first Ottawa, then Fillmore East, then Hull, the night after Leeds. That got me through to Delaware, where we bedded down for the night. The next morning we began our journey to the Boston area hoping to arrive no later than 1. All sorts of fun, but innocuous and interesting things happened with separations and the joys and terrors of a caravan with a 26' UHaul driven by your half-crazy brother in the middle. And for that leg of the journey I chose the Allman Brothers Band Fillmore West 1/29-31/71, Fillmore East 3/13/71, then 8/17/71 Boston Commons. We were way late, and stressed, but Duane and Dickey and Berry kept me fairly grounded.

I look forward to this Hartford release (went through there and New Haven along the way, and even fortuitously stumbled upon a sign for Dillon Stadium at the exit I chose for its Wendy's), but the best thing about it to me is the standard it sets that a release can be a four disc show, so 5/26/73 and 6/10/73 could get the treatment. Though, that also means no Plangentizing of those. But I do look forward to a different sound than I usually listen to, but I still haven't finished DaP 35. I didn't find what I did listen to that compelling. DaP 31 I listened to that one time, and listened to Jack a Roe and the Franklin's and Jam a couple other times, but that's about it. DaP 32 didn't move me brightly either. So, it's not just Brent era complaining. This year I loved Jai Alai, but have loved that show for years, and found this to be a huge sonic upgrade, and probably the best sounding Wall of Sound release that is a 2 track source. DaP 33 I loved the Might As Well, Jack Straw, Dire Wolf opening, the Let It Grow was great, but I don't find that on repeat much either. DaP 37 Spring '78 leaves me a bit nonplussed, too. Hoping the announcement for 38 is of a big one. I've already bought the subscription, but I'm hoping for a little more bang for those bucks next year. And if it's a 1972 box, they can take that money quite willingly.

But one thing that is setup is the stereo, so when American Beauty and that wonderful Port Chester Dark Star> Beautiful Jam> Wharf Rat> Dark Star arrive, I shall play it and hopefully enjoy what is forecast to be our first snow up here. And I will give Hartford a listen if it arrives as scheduled, hoping for some Dead rejuvenation in my spirit!

Re: Rooster Sauce

I once was making extremely spicy tacos and cut up jalapenos and habaneros without gloves. I washed my hands 23 times, took a shower, and went to take my contacts out and immediately felt burning on my eye and just slept with them in that night. I later bought a jar of habanero ground up seasoning that required no touching.

But I have never heard of swollen hands like that, yikes! That may be an allergic reaction more than just a spice thing. I'm not sure you want to eat something that did that to the outside of your body,

Oh well

Mine was slated to arrive today, but has been delayed due to the all too well publicized USPS delivery woes. Man, are we hitting the fan?

No worries! We'll just see what other adventures are around the corner. Stay Grateful and have a Grateful Day all! :-)

Hands

The slight swelling and redness is gone. It can't be allergic reaction, or I would be dead by now. It was simply chopping copious amounts of really hot peppers. I mean a lot.

All is good.. I think it's sort of funny. ..like serves me right.

Hot Hands

An unintended side effect is extreme twitching that can result in the dreaded double post.

Fire on the fingers

I too have taken contacts out with spicey fingers. The burn goes away from your eye faster than your mouth. But it still hurts. I wear gloves if I know I will have to take my contacts out later.

Capsaicin is put into creams for arthritis treatment.
Jim, do your hands feel any younger?

What's up with delivery ?

Does this look familiar to anyone?

Date Location Activity
10/27/2020 12:58 P.M. Bridgeport, NJ, United States Package departed UPS Mail Innovations facility enroute to USPS for induction
10/27/2020 9:29 A.M. Bridgeport, NJ, United States Package received for sort by destination UPS Mail Innovations facility
10/24/2020 3:28 A.M. Fontana, CA, United States Package transferred to destination UPS Mail Innovations facility
10/23/2020 9:07 P.M. Fontana, CA, United States Package processed by UPS Mail Innovations origin facility
10/23/2020 7:18 P.M. Fontana, CA, United States Package received for processing by UPS Mail Innovations
10/23/2020 6:25 P.M. Carlsbad, CA, United States Shipment tendered to UPS Mail Innovations
10/20/2020 5:45 P.M. Silver Spring, MD, United States Package transferred to post office

I live in Silver Spring. The DP36 was at my post office 8 days ago but it wasn't delivered. Instead they sent me a notice that I would get it today 10/28 (which I have not) after they took it all the way up to Jersey.

Younger

No. Older. Everything makes me feel older.

If capsaicin (or bee stings) worked.. I'd be 22 again and put up with the pain. Doses might just be more effective.

Wait, WTF is this?

I’m channel surfing and come to ESPN2 which is running “Fire On The Mountain”. Extreme sports footage with background GD music, narrated by Bill Walton, and commentary from Dave.

Warren Miller meets Grateful Dead

Why didn’t they invite me to come skiing with them?

There's a Dragon with Matches

I have seen this.. it's a documentary. I saw it on YouTube or Amazon Prime, forget which. Pretty cool extreme sports flick with a deadhead twist.. crazies. surfing, skiing, kayaking.. It's pretty cool and yes, Bill is in it.

Ha.. just found it on ESPN myself. This is the one I was speaking of. Now.. which version of Fire on the Mountain is it? I know this version.... It's been released. 77? Cornell??

For what it's worth.. its been about 24 hours. The burn/tingle in my hands is just now going away. I felt a little like Homer after the psychedelic chili cookoff.

Edit: I might have conflated this with a couple other sportsumentaries I saw the same night.. I am not sure there is kayaking in it for example.. Not sure Norway skiing is in it either.. what was that other film I saw the same night? It was insane.

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