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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

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  • alvarhanso
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    To say I just finished a nice little documentary from PBS called Tuxedo Park about a rich science enthusiast who helped develop radar that won WWII, and was looking for something new, and lo and behold, Amazon has added Festival Express, and just before I hit play, in the suggestions beneath that was Grateful Dawg. For those that know neither of these, Festival Express documents the raucous train festival musical carnival of the Dead, Janis Joplin, The Band, Buddy Guy, and others as they traverse Canada emptying liquor stores, literally, along the way. Haven't seen it since it came out 15 years ago. Grateful Dawg is a documentary about Jerry's relationships with David Grisman and bluegrass. Haven't seen that in years, either. If you've got Prime, you can watch them free. The Tuxedo Park thing you may need a PBS add on subscription, but you get a ton of PBS documentaries with it... continue on wayward sons and daughters...

  • JimInMD
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    Great Thread

    Love the box ideas...

  • Sixtus_
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    re: Yes to Quattro '73

    I, for one, will bow to our Early '73 Overlords any day of the week.
    Doc's delicious 'First Four of Seventy Three' ring true.
    What a tasty celebratory quad-fecta.
    If ever there was a delight....Powers-that-Be, kindly take notice.

    Sixtus

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    Nice catch on Warfield being ABCD, hendrixfreak

    I have a little spreadhseet where I'm tracking taper info and ABCD stuff, and I think I missed that. (Indeed, apparently last updated it with Giants Stadium Box and missed the Warfield release, and last opened it exactly a year ago oddly enough.) And I would assume those are 2 track Bettys, not the 16 track masters that she also taped, which would be the ones that got erased or taped over, because enough tidbits got out over the years about what was in there that you would think 16 track recordings of that many shows would have stood out, and wouldn't think even Betty would have gear at home to run those in her spare time, and they wouldn't want tapes for a live album being auctioned off. But, the Port Chester tapes were in there, so I guess best not to assume for fear of becoming an ass. If they do indeed have some returned 16 tracks from that run and are planning a box from it, I would rather they spend the time Plangent Processing them, while releasing both of Doc's suggestions: Fall '72 in Tejas plus those early Feb '73 shows to demonstrate the remarkable change 3 months made. It would be an even starker contrast than PacNW '73-'74. Plus, it would be some amazing shows.

    Finally starting to listen to DaP 36 (still haven't gotten my order, but this one I bought on ebay), and I like the Matrix. The crowd does get a little annoying, but it's realistic, and SBDs have spoilt me. The best part of the matrix is Phil being audible, and you can feel him, too. Still in 1st set, but already better than same place on DaP 35.

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    Fall 80 reels

    Dave did comment on them during one of the Shakedown Streams. Some were recorded over, but not all of them.

    No idea if the list of returned reels is accurate, but it only lists acoustic as being on reels. There were cassettes returned too.
    If those cassettes could be matrixed to sound like 11-30-80 that could work as a supplement to what exists on the remaining reels.

    http://jgmf.blogspot.com/2020/09/the-new-alphabet-abcd-gd.html

  • hendrixfreak
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    Last thought for the day, I swear....

    This isolation has given me motor-mouth!

    Not to suggest that an acoustic '80 box is likely, but I did check and these shows were recorded by Betty and the RSD two-show release from Oct. 9 & 10 was 'courtesy of ABCD Enterprises, which means they were among the returned Betty Boards. SO... that kinda ups the ante, no?

    Okay, I'll stop.

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    '80 acoustic reels

    Yes, I too have read that some reels from the '80 acoustic shows were recorded over. But somewhere in the discussion it became apparent that there's still plenty of material there. The sheer number of shows means that leftovers could be generous. In light of that, or in spite of that, DL did put out those two full acoustic shows, what, two years ago, for RSD. Wonder if that led him to take inventory and he liked what he saw. On the other hand, I should think he'd have to have enough material for at least four one-hour discs to call it a box. And one would hope his standards would demand a few songs that haven't appeared yet on any release. So, 15 Warfield shows, 2 in NO, and 8 at RCMH. That's 25 shows. At least four acoustic shows' worth has been released: Reckoning and the RSD release. If half the shows were 'wiped,' that leaves ~12, of which ~4 have been released. So it's possible to do a box, if I'm anywhere near correct. (A phrase I'll have to remember to use in the future...)

    If not, '68, '69 or .................. '72 will still get my money!

    P.S. Hey Doc, genuinely glad to see you here and posting about '71. And '73. Thanks for everything, for real.

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Yo! Rockers!!!

    I don't think TPTB like anniversaries, so I think a 71 box is out for this year.

    Y'know, there have been a few 1980 A/E shows leaking out lately, maybe a preview of coming box attractions?

    TPTB probably get tired of me advocating for a Fall 1972 Texas box. How about this:
    February 1973 box:
    2/9
    2/15
    2/17
    2/19

    Just a thought...……………

    Rock on,

    Doc
    He who lives in harmony with himself lives in harmony with the universe

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    Thanks HF, I will do my best to try and hunt that info down. Who knows when they will release their 2021 boxset. It could be in the fall.

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    Fall 1972 would be good, but1969 is the one that would make my pupils dilate. Or 1968.

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

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Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

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10-29-77 is a reasonably good show but I understand where you are coming from. Personally the second set of 10-30-77 does more for me. I love the second set Peggy-O and then the Playing sandwich. I wish Dave used that for filler on the 10-29 release.

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My listening notes ask if 10/29/77 isn't the "Grate-est show ever?"!!

I'm in on the Dark Star box. I wouldn't even mind if it were JUST scintillating Dark Stars; skip any surrounding material that isn't A+. I just ordered a used copy of Grayfolded; never heard it before . . .

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American Beauty and 2/18/71 never sounded better. When the opening notes of Box of Rain hit, it's like everything in the world is going to be okay . . .

p.s. Going to be okay, like when Lindsay WEIR (there MUST have been a Deadhead writer . . . ) skips out on summer Future Leaders of America camp to take off on Dead tour after her high school counsellor loans her his American Beauty LP. (Freaks and Geeks, anyone?)

p.p.s. Hah! Turns out that Dave mentions that episode of F&G in the liner notes. :)

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WOW! This is the type of pressing that gets people strung out on vinyl! So crystal clear, this thing is such a beautiful pressing!

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I once-again donated to Archive.org, then ordered some 400i's to listen to the Archived shows through.

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... for next years box i would love an 80’s themed Boxset , kinda more warfield flavored. Combining Acoustic/electric performances from/by the dead
And also let’s throw some Dylan & the Dead collections during next years “to do list.”
I would also love a box covering more 72’ !
To be completely honest, I want more Pigpen! I always desire primal dead above all else! But with our two 71’ concerts included into Two 50th anniversary releases this year , it reminded me how much I love 71’! I’d be a very grateful DeadHead for an 1971 Boxset as well, lol but then 89’ always makes my nose twitch ! Lmao, Wait also are we not also due for an other Boxset Part Too ?! Holy Toledo, BatMan!
, whatever what may lay ahead for us fans, I do myself like everything seems to be in my life.keep an open minded trip! Take care & keep on trucking!🙏❤️💀🌹

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Re the RFK box: it is indeed Brenty, for better or worse. But what I wanted to say about it is that I now own it largely as a result of Dead.net actually functioning like a normal website!

A couple months ago, I was perusing the listing for RFK, and it said it was out of stock but I could give 'em my email and they would message me when they got it back in. So I gave 'em my, and they then they actually did message me! So I ordered it, and about a week later, it actually arrived! Holy Jeebus, I thought, does this mean Dead.net is actually getting its proverbial shit together?

And, around the same, I received a notice that they were refunding the payment I'd sent some months before for vinyl version of the Warfield acoustic thing. Because it was out of stock, and they didn't know if they would ever get it back, so here's yer money back, it said. Not only that, they gave me a discount code for 10% off my next order to make up for any inconvenience or whatever. Which on the one hand was kind of disappointing, but at the same time, it seemed like progress. They actually CONTACTED ME about a problem, and then DID SOMETHING to make it right! Oh yes they did.

So I'm thinking, "well, maybe after all complaints, they've finally gotten a bit more organized." And I decide I might as well go ahead and order the CD version of the Warfield stuff, and use the discount. Well, it's now been three weeks since I put my money down, and except for the initial "thanks for your order!" autobot email, I haven't heard anything. Not shipping notice, no explanation for the non-shipment, nada.

Some things never change.

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Yesterday AB50, today DaP36! Woo-hoo! I also grabbed that Songs for Groovy Children by Hendrix and Television's Marquee Moon. I had and sold Marquee Moon many moons ago (har.), but thought I would give it another try since so many of you relish it.

Happy Halloween!

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I missed out on RSD because of my kid’s sports. Those funds were donated to the archive. Please make it a point to give. We all use the site.

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....they have a section called Internet Arcade that is pretty fun.

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Dave revealed some interesting information on tonights Shakedown Stream regarding the multitrack left from the 1980 Warfiend and Radio City runs. "There is definitely material available from the run, a fair amount.. half or more.. but in the case of complete shows, reel one, four, seven might not be available."

Not sure what that means or if / how it will translate. He also mentioned they have more two track cassette masters available also.

I would have to think at some point they release more of this material, and if they are able to cobble together some of the multitrack, I would expect this to get box set treatment if possible, if it's too segmented perhaps some record store day releases.

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I for one really enjoy the two acoustic sets from the Warfield run released last year. Plus, I have the original/expanded release of the acoustic sets.

There's a lot of love for those runs and so, YES, JimInMD, I think many of us would enjoy a curated output from what's left of the tapes -- more than half is left? Comb it for the rarer songs and best performances, subtract what's been released and let's proceed to rock!

Um, that's AFTER next year's '72 box............. or ANY Pigpen-related releases.

(Ah the joy, but picky, picky, picky!!!)

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Uuumm . . . Let's just say that it doesn't sound like the '87 show from the Giants Box. And you might appreciate the sound on 2/18/71 a tad more than the sound on DaP36. :) Fans of audience tapes will enjoy this release a lot.

High energy, though!

p.s. I'm only commenting on the sound; I haven't listened to enough of either show to comment on the performances.

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Fuck Trump. I have children.

Go ahead, cry about my post for every reason and all, there's a box of Kleenex over there on the end table.

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Apologies for giving you the impression I was remotely interested in US politics here in Blighty.

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If you're gonna do that, I recommend that you give him an enema first.

KeithFan, I still hold that single disc up against any other single disc officially released. To my ears, the only disc that might top it is disc 3 of 4/8/72.

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With what that one guy said
His name rhymes with RedHed
His name rhymes with RedHed

This new Daves is potent
You do need to adjust yourself to the audience factor

But once you have done that, you have pure GD energy

4 15 78 is next
All the golden yummies

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The RSD release last credited ABCD so was hoping and wondering if they could piece together a box of complete shows from these two venues.

I didn't catch the Shakedown Stream but remember Dave mentioning work on the next box was already underway, so right now a Fall 80 box is a potential project.

What a conundrum it must be to have several hundred shows or more at your disposal and only so many release opportunities per year.

Also lots of Summer/Fall and December '89 through Winter '90 multi-tracked shows still in the vault.

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they love each other ,GDradio 11/30/73 thank God for sabbath and the GRATEFUL DEAD, Cheers

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SpaceBrother you are indeed correct. I wondered why I hadn't noticed that. So I looked.

The credits are in, like, 2 point type. I usually take my Sherlock Holmes magnifying glass to it, but I guess I was excited to hear it and spaced that, brother.

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Im digging Daves 36, fans of audience tapes will for sure dig this one! I thought about my last comment and don't want to ruin the element of surprise so im editing it out🤙

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It is a great disc. As much as I love the old William Tell versions of St. Stephen, they really started rocking out at the end of the 71 performances (after one man gathers what another man spills). Weir especially on the Ladies and Gentlemen performance, and now on this 2/18 show.

Disc 3 of 4/8 that's a good call. I've always really gotten into 5/25/72 Disc 3, but I think the Dark Star on 4/8 is certainly better. And now I have Cautions running through my head. They were all pretty Kick-Ass on that last tour for Pigpen, but I'll be listening with fresh ears next time on your recommendation.

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They do come with digital meds though.

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During a classic Grateful Dead Show -in the -Rain, "The He's Gone" was such an uptempo crowdpleaser. We had our boom stand inside a dome tent with one tech-head handling the rec levels and bailing during downpours. You know better but I know him.

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Yeah as soon as i got the email the Dave's picks poster had already sold out, bummer...I would have bought one, oh well saved me a 100$ i guess... off the top of my head im going to say #5, #23 & #34( with the bonus disc) are my top 3 Daves picks so far...#13 & #29 would be a top 5 with the previous 3...

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Well, for the 10th straight year, my subscription is in. I will definitely re-visit at the end of 2021, to see what we got in '21, and what we may look forward to in '22. I have no real complaints over #'s 1-36, and look forward to 38-40(already know what 37 will be).
Three fave Dave's without giving it much thought: #30, #10, #6. But hey, in a nod to MDJim, It just might be the next one I listen to.

Stay healthy all.

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Yep! Dave won't find me slacking this year. As a newish Dead Head I really enjoyed every selection form Dave's Picks 2020 and the ones from 2019 that I got my hands on. I've really never heard anything else like this wonderful music.

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Still waiting on my Dave's Picks Vol. 36. At least I got a reply that they will notify the warehouse to send out another copy. Unfortunately still no second shipping notice with new tracking number, hopefully I'll get that sooner than later. It makes me reluctant to renew for a 2021 subscription when I can't even get my 2020 subscription completed. I've been a loyal fan for a while and never had shipping issues. I get that things happen that are out of people's control some times so I am hoping this is an isolated incident and won't be the norm for the future.

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"The only people in the world who will ever receive this Bonus Disc in any format are YOU, the subscribers!"

And this is supposed to make me feel what exactly? Privileged? Special?

Since nobody will ever get to hear it again I guess you might as well destroy the Masters because why pay to store , archive and worry over them. The concert is done. A few thousand CDs were sold and now it's one more for the shredder.

This remains, as I've said before, a completely ridiculous business model.

Never to be heard again. What a load of senseless crap.

But I do agree with the comment above that in general the Grateful Dead have a fabulous business model, in everything except the Vault. My objection above stands.

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Keep up the excellent business marketing model. Nobody does it better. Barry Barnes said it best. "Everything I know about business I learned from the Grateful Dead"

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Since people are always saying they missed the email can I share todays message that the early bird special price ends today. You’ll still be able to subscribe at the full price for a while or just get in quick and buy only the discs you want during the year.
Stay safe.

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They sell everything and people keep wanting more. How is that bad business?

Never heard from again? I mean come on. You really can't find a friend to burn you a copy? Not good enough with a burned disc?Then it really is about the physical collectable item and not the music. You can get anything from someone somewhere, just gotta poke around.

Seems like this business model is just fine. Did y'all follow those no VHS recording FBI warnings and never tape over missing Maxell tabs to make a tape? I'm not saying open up a vending booth in lot and hawk official releases but damn if you dont have a friend out there, be more polite and people on here will get you the music. I know they've done that for me...shhhhh. If you get confused....reach out for help...and listen to the music play. Plus there are plug-ins that allow downloads from archive streams...I've said too much. Get motivated and inventive people come

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You do work with optics at all? Just curious cause it looks like you've got an interference pattern of some kind there for your avatar. Reminds of optical mineralogy classes!

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Aww poor Byrd. A hissy fit because they don't do it his way. Kindergarten must be tough

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No, although I did work with electron and optical microscopes at one point in my less than illustrious career. The image is of a badge showing the cover of the Steve Hillage album ‘Rainbow Dome Music’. The music was played in a pyramid at the Festival for Mind, Body and Spirit in the late 1970’s. My wife and I had the pleasure of sharing a bench with Mr Hillage when he came into the pyramid while we were there.

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I really don't know what should be wrong about the suscription as a business model. Saw a few complaints on Instagram as well. Do I have to know all the cover stories in advance before subscribing to Rolling Stone? I doubt it. Just curious: Are there any other bands who do it that way, selling a subscription of physical product? I'd definitely sign up for Dylan, Lou Reed and quite a few others ...

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Colin-a fine album, and the event you attended is now considered the stuff of legend. Quite a privilege sitting next to his nibs as well.

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I say good things about the Dead when they do good things and offer my criticisms when I disagree, but unlike some twerps out here who respond with personal insults, I never hero-worshipped anyone in the band and I sure as hell don't blow sunshine up their asses 24/7.

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I'm still waiting for a reply from Customer Service as to why I received an unnumbered copy in my subscription for DP #36. I have always ordered two copies, and one stays sealed. So at least I have one that is numbered, but WTF guys. I thought unnumbered copies were promos and only given out to employees, stores, or replace orders lost in the mail. It almost makes me not want to subscribe for 2021.

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This is a great place for politics. Thanks for being a clown.

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Some people will complain about anything if it isn't exactly the way they want it. We call these people children . (and Byrd)

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Did Dave reveal DaP 38 yet? Doesn't he give away the show w/bonus disc before the subscription window closes?

Or does he announce the 2nd DaP of the year AFTER the subscription window closes?

I can never remember how it goes, year to year. 'Course, whether that's due to 48 years of pot and tripping or the meds I'm on now 'cuz I broke a couple bones in my foot Wednesday night, I can't say for sure.

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Some people accept anything, whether they like it or not, and misunderstand constructive criticism. They also have a tendency to label people they don't understand.

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