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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

David Lemieux
October 2020

Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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January 25, 2021 - 10:54am

#111

hendrixfreak

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DeadVikes

Tried to PM you, but the message thingy doesn't recognize your tag.

Steve Hoffman Music forums. Plug in Dave's Picks 2021. See page 39 of discussion.

I thought it rude to mention another forum here. But DL was playing Reckoning on some platform and a commenter suggested it sounded like DL had acoustic '80 in mind for a box. It appears as if DL assented. I think the info is solid, just a matter of whether DL was being honest and blowing the surprise factor or whether he was being coy and keeping us guessing.

If we make it to spring, I guess we'll know.
January 25, 2021 - 10:48am

#112

hendrixfreak

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DeadVikes

Check PM
January 25, 2021 - 10:36am

#113

Sixtus_

Joined:
November 8, 2014

Fever Pitch

All this Box Talk.
Many thoughts brewing.

As I sonically embraced 10/14/89 the other night, I was like, Man, they need to release this whole run. We already have Nightfall of Diamonds, but the others surrounding that show are really really good, too. I keep going back to the orphan Scarlet Begonias in this second set, it's a good one at almost 13 minutes and indicative of the corners they were turning. I may also assume the entire run is on 24-track, eh? Similar to Nightfall. Here's 10/14 for that Scarlet:

https://archive.org/details/gd1989-10-14.147664.UltraMatrix.sbd.cm.mill…

Rock on. And Bring on the BOX(es). Not to be greedy....but, yeah Boxes.
Sixtus
January 25, 2021 - 10:09am

#114

fourwindsblow

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10/31/80 RCMH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEmJlxYAxps

If it is RCMH here is an example of how the box will sound.
This sounds nothing like the dvd release.
January 25, 2021 - 9:22am

#115

DeadVikes

Joined:
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Box Set/Hendrixfreak

Hendrixfreak, what was the other forum you were looking at with Dave L. talking about the 2021 box set? That would interesting to check out.
January 25, 2021 - 9:08am

#116

billy the kid

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Box talk

Box set talk, one of my favorite subjects. A December 1980 box would be cool, I went to all those shows. I heard someone on here talking about an April 1969 Avalon Box set, now that would be right up my alley. I like those April Avalon shows better then the Ark shows from April. But what the heck, they could release them both as an Avalon/Ark box set, and everybody would be stoked. Of course there is always the complete Oct 1974 Winterland audio and video box set, that would sell out in minutes . I'm sure it will be cool whatever it is that they release.
January 25, 2021 - 8:49am

#117

pkb

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April 22, 2020

RCMH Box

Dave has mentioned a few times on Twitter that the tapes of much of the Warfield and RCMH run were erased (recorded over, actually) in the early 1980s. Unless there is an update, it seems unlikely they can do a box.
January 25, 2021 - 8:16am

#118

hendrixfreak

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On the other hand...

There's some blather on 'another forum' that DL teased that the box might be acoustic '80, as in the leftovers from Warfield/Radio City/New Orleans shows.

Of course, I read that immediately following my latest '72 rant.

At least I was right about being consistently wrong................
January 25, 2021 - 8:08am

#119

fourwindsblow

Joined:
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2020 second box/2021 box

It could have been Oakland December '80? Looks like they were all recorded MSR.

I think I would rather have this box.
January 25, 2021 - 7:41am

#120

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Okay, hold it right there!

IceCreamed, you unilaterally decide to delay MY '72 box to next year, while Vguy is talkin' 2025???

Hold on just one doggone minute, pleeeez! Let's look at the "facts" through the lens of my personal hallucinations.

First off, look at 2020 -- DL combined the band's two most iconic LPs' 50th anniversary with '71 shows. Couple points here. The synching of releases to present year is purely a thing with the 50th anniversary projects themselves, not the boxes. That said, DL has hinted that the Wake of the Flood 50th is coming this year, as DL noted they would speed the anniversary process, so the next one, Blues for Allah, will come in 2022, not 2025. But the accompanying shows may or may not synch up, as we saw with last year's two 50th releases. There's a dearth of '70 shows in the Vault, so DL couldn't spare two '70 shows in 2020. Thus, he used two '71 shows because they were already mixed in the can. So bets are off that the 2021 box means '71 or that 2022 means '72. (Besides, we just got two '71 shows last year.)

With 'Wake' coming out with a '73 show attached (watch it be a two-disc Watkins Glen soundcheck, woo-hoo!) and with 73-74 having been covered by the 2018 box, you have to look at what key year hasn't been covered recently. The last '72 show released was 8-25-72 and that was in 2017. (Three and a half years later, I still remember how much I enjoyed the first set...)

I mean, I've never been wrong before. Except on every single box prediction.

All roads lead to '72 this year. You've heard it here constantly since.... gawd, how long have I been prattling on about a '72 box???

John Perry Barlow

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

David Lemieux
October 2020

Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

DH Brewer

10-29-77 is a reasonably good show but I understand where you are coming from. Personally the second set of 10-30-77 does more for me. I love the second set Peggy-O and then the Playing sandwich. I wish Dave used that for filler on the 10-29 release.

Wade, I hope you're being facetious! :)

My listening notes ask if 10/29/77 isn't the "Grate-est show ever?"!!

I'm in on the Dark Star box. I wouldn't even mind if it were JUST scintillating Dark Stars; skip any surrounding material that isn't A+. I just ordered a used copy of Grayfolded; never heard it before . . .

As you likely expected . . .

American Beauty and 2/18/71 never sounded better. When the opening notes of Box of Rain hit, it's like everything in the world is going to be okay . . .

p.s. Going to be okay, like when Lindsay WEIR (there MUST have been a Deadhead writer . . . ) skips out on summer Future Leaders of America camp to take off on Dead tour after her high school counsellor loans her his American Beauty LP. (Freaks and Geeks, anyone?)

p.p.s. Hah! Turns out that Dave mentions that episode of F&G in the liner notes. :)

Dicks picks 26 RGM vinyl

WOW! This is the type of pressing that gets people strung out on vinyl! So crystal clear, this thing is such a beautiful pressing!

Thanks, Deadfeat!

I once-again donated to Archive.org, then ordered some 400i's to listen to the Archived shows through.

*RE/ 2021 Grateful Dead Boxset Ideas

... for next years box i would love an 80’s themed Boxset , kinda more warfield flavored. Combining Acoustic/electric performances from/by the dead
And also let’s throw some Dylan & the Dead collections during next years “to do list.”
I would also love a box covering more 72’ !
To be completely honest, I want more Pigpen! I always desire primal dead above all else! But with our two 71’ concerts included into Two 50th anniversary releases this year , it reminded me how much I love 71’! I’d be a very grateful DeadHead for an 1971 Boxset as well, lol but then 89’ always makes my nose twitch ! Lmao, Wait also are we not also due for an other Boxset Part Too ?! Holy Toledo, BatMan!
, whatever what may lay ahead for us fans, I do myself like everything seems to be in my life.keep an open minded trip! Take care & keep on trucking!🙏❤️💀🌹

Re the RFK

Re the RFK box: it is indeed Brenty, for better or worse. But what I wanted to say about it is that I now own it largely as a result of Dead.net actually functioning like a normal website!

A couple months ago, I was perusing the listing for RFK, and it said it was out of stock but I could give 'em my email and they would message me when they got it back in. So I gave 'em my, and they then they actually did message me! So I ordered it, and about a week later, it actually arrived! Holy Jeebus, I thought, does this mean Dead.net is actually getting its proverbial shit together?

And, around the same, I received a notice that they were refunding the payment I'd sent some months before for vinyl version of the Warfield acoustic thing. Because it was out of stock, and they didn't know if they would ever get it back, so here's yer money back, it said. Not only that, they gave me a discount code for 10% off my next order to make up for any inconvenience or whatever. Which on the one hand was kind of disappointing, but at the same time, it seemed like progress. They actually CONTACTED ME about a problem, and then DID SOMETHING to make it right! Oh yes they did.

So I'm thinking, "well, maybe after all complaints, they've finally gotten a bit more organized." And I decide I might as well go ahead and order the CD version of the Warfield stuff, and use the discount. Well, it's now been three weeks since I put my money down, and except for the initial "thanks for your order!" autobot email, I haven't heard anything. Not shipping notice, no explanation for the non-shipment, nada.

Some things never change.

#18826 in Saint Paul, Minnesota!

Yesterday AB50, today DaP36! Woo-hoo! I also grabbed that Songs for Groovy Children by Hendrix and Television's Marquee Moon. I had and sold Marquee Moon many moons ago (har.), but thought I would give it another try since so many of you relish it.

Happy Halloween!

Deadheadbrewer

Lucky guy, let us know what you think.
Mine is scheduled for next Wednesday. I am still on the carrier pigeon plan. ☹️

The Archive

I missed out on RSD because of my kid’s sports. Those funds were donated to the archive. Please make it a point to give. We all use the site.

The Archive....

....they have a section called Internet Arcade that is pretty fun.

Hope for an Fall 1980 Release (RSD or Mini Box??)

Dave revealed some interesting information on tonights Shakedown Stream regarding the multitrack left from the 1980 Warfiend and Radio City runs. "There is definitely material available from the run, a fair amount.. half or more.. but in the case of complete shows, reel one, four, seven might not be available."

Not sure what that means or if / how it will translate. He also mentioned they have more two track cassette masters available also.

I would have to think at some point they release more of this material, and if they are able to cobble together some of the multitrack, I would expect this to get box set treatment if possible, if it's too segmented perhaps some record store day releases.

One of my favorite anniversary shows

Dick's Picks 2, October 31, 1971

Fall 80’s Box

Dave,
Box up all the multi-tracks and video that you have.
Include all the stereo recordings too on separate CD’s.

My credit card is waiting........

Fall '80 sounds interesting

I for one really enjoy the two acoustic sets from the Warfield run released last year. Plus, I have the original/expanded release of the acoustic sets.

There's a lot of love for those runs and so, YES, JimInMD, I think many of us would enjoy a curated output from what's left of the tapes -- more than half is left? Comb it for the rarer songs and best performances, subtract what's been released and let's proceed to rock!

Um, that's AFTER next year's '72 box............. or ANY Pigpen-related releases.

(Ah the joy, but picky, picky, picky!!!)

DaP36 sound

Uuumm . . . Let's just say that it doesn't sound like the '87 show from the Giants Box. And you might appreciate the sound on 2/18/71 a tad more than the sound on DaP36. :) Fans of audience tapes will enjoy this release a lot.

High energy, though!

p.s. I'm only commenting on the sound; I haven't listened to enough of either show to comment on the performances.

Fuck Trump

Fuck Trump. I have children.

Go ahead, cry about my post for every reason and all, there's a box of Kleenex over there on the end table.

LEDDED

Apologies for giving you the impression I was remotely interested in US politics here in Blighty.

LedDed

If you're gonna do that, I recommend that you give him an enema first.

Dicks 2

KeithFan, I still hold that single disc up against any other single disc officially released. To my ears, the only disc that might top it is disc 3 of 4/8/72.

Do you read what I read?

Agreed, agreed
With what that one guy said
His name rhymes with RedHed
His name rhymes with RedHed

This new Daves is potent
You do need to adjust yourself to the audience factor

But once you have done that, you have pure GD energy

4 15 78 is next
All the golden yummies

Warfield & Radio City Music Hall 80

The RSD release last credited ABCD so was hoping and wondering if they could piece together a box of complete shows from these two venues.

I didn't catch the Shakedown Stream but remember Dave mentioning work on the next box was already underway, so right now a Fall 80 box is a potential project.

What a conundrum it must be to have several hundred shows or more at your disposal and only so many release opportunities per year.

Also lots of Summer/Fall and December '89 through Winter '90 multi-tracked shows still in the vault.

Great day

they love each other ,GDradio 11/30/73 thank God for sabbath and the GRATEFUL DEAD, Cheers

Never noticed ABCD credit on Warfield

SpaceBrother you are indeed correct. I wondered why I hadn't noticed that. So I looked.

The credits are in, like, 2 point type. I usually take my Sherlock Holmes magnifying glass to it, but I guess I was excited to hear it and spaced that, brother.

Im digging Daves 36, fans of…

Im digging Daves 36, fans of audience tapes will for sure dig this one! I thought about my last comment and don't want to ruin the element of surprise so im editing it out🤙

Lebowski

It is a great disc. As much as I love the old William Tell versions of St. Stephen, they really started rocking out at the end of the 71 performances (after one man gathers what another man spills). Weir especially on the Ladies and Gentlemen performance, and now on this 2/18 show.

Disc 3 of 4/8 that's a good call. I've always really gotten into 5/25/72 Disc 3, but I think the Dark Star on 4/8 is certainly better. And now I have Cautions running through my head. They were all pretty Kick-Ass on that last tour for Pigpen, but I'll be listening with fresh ears next time on your recommendation.

Do the Dave's Picks releases include digital files?

Or just the discs? Thanks.

CD’s

No digital download

CDs

They do come with digital meds though.

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Well, this message makes no sense with the previous spammer email removed.

The He's Gone set 1 opener

During a classic Grateful Dead Show -in the -Rain, "The He's Gone" was such an uptempo crowdpleaser. We had our boom stand inside a dome tent with one tech-head handling the rec levels and bailing during downpours. You know better but I know him.

Daves #1-36

Yeah as soon as i got the email the Dave's picks poster had already sold out, bummer...I would have bought one, oh well saved me a 100$ i guess... off the top of my head im going to say #5, #23 & #34( with the bonus disc) are my top 3 Daves picks so far...#13 & #29 would be a top 5 with the previous 3...

No arm twisting

Well, for the 10th straight year, my subscription is in. I will definitely re-visit at the end of 2021, to see what we got in '21, and what we may look forward to in '22. I have no real complaints over #'s 1-36, and look forward to 38-40(already know what 37 will be).
Three fave Dave's without giving it much thought: #30, #10, #6. But hey, in a nod to MDJim, It just might be the next one I listen to.

Stay healthy all.

Will I buy a subscription?

Yep! Dave won't find me slacking this year. As a newish Dead Head I really enjoyed every selection form Dave's Picks 2020 and the ones from 2019 that I got my hands on. I've really never heard anything else like this wonderful music.

Phil Head

Welcome!
To the golden road of unlimited devotion!
Now light up a smoke and have yourself a ball, cause your mothers down in Memphis and won’t be back until fall!

Where's my Dave's Picks Vol. 36????

Still waiting on my Dave's Picks Vol. 36. At least I got a reply that they will notify the warehouse to send out another copy. Unfortunately still no second shipping notice with new tracking number, hopefully I'll get that sooner than later. It makes me reluctant to renew for a 2021 subscription when I can't even get my 2020 subscription completed. I've been a loyal fan for a while and never had shipping issues. I get that things happen that are out of people's control some times so I am hoping this is an isolated incident and won't be the norm for the future.

Man the Shredders

"The only people in the world who will ever receive this Bonus Disc in any format are YOU, the subscribers!"

And this is supposed to make me feel what exactly? Privileged? Special?

Since nobody will ever get to hear it again I guess you might as well destroy the Masters because why pay to store , archive and worry over them. The concert is done. A few thousand CDs were sold and now it's one more for the shredder.

This remains, as I've said before, a completely ridiculous business model.

Never to be heard again. What a load of senseless crap.

But I do agree with the comment above that in general the Grateful Dead have a fabulous business model, in everything except the Vault. My objection above stands.

Dicks and Dave's picks

Keep up the excellent business marketing model. Nobody does it better. Barry Barnes said it best. "Everything I know about business I learned from the Grateful Dead"

Early Bird offer ends today

Since people are always saying they missed the email can I share todays message that the early bird special price ends today. You’ll still be able to subscribe at the full price for a while or just get in quick and buy only the discs you want during the year.
Stay safe.

Bad business model?

They sell everything and people keep wanting more. How is that bad business?

Never heard from again? I mean come on. You really can't find a friend to burn you a copy? Not good enough with a burned disc?Then it really is about the physical collectable item and not the music. You can get anything from someone somewhere, just gotta poke around.

Seems like this business model is just fine. Did y'all follow those no VHS recording FBI warnings and never tape over missing Maxell tabs to make a tape? I'm not saying open up a vending booth in lot and hawk official releases but damn if you dont have a friend out there, be more polite and people on here will get you the music. I know they've done that for me...shhhhh. If you get confused....reach out for help...and listen to the music play. Plus there are plug-ins that allow downloads from archive streams...I've said too much. Get motivated and inventive people come

Colin Gould

You do work with optics at all? Just curious cause it looks like you've got an interference pattern of some kind there for your avatar. Reminds of optical mineralogy classes!

FU

Aww poor Byrd. A hissy fit because they don't do it his way. Kindergarten must be tough

DIREWULF

No, although I did work with electron and optical microscopes at one point in my less than illustrious career. The image is of a badge showing the cover of the Steve Hillage album ‘Rainbow Dome Music’. The music was played in a pyramid at the Festival for Mind, Body and Spirit in the late 1970’s. My wife and I had the pleasure of sharing a bench with Mr Hillage when he came into the pyramid while we were there.

Subscription

I really don't know what should be wrong about the suscription as a business model. Saw a few complaints on Instagram as well. Do I have to know all the cover stories in advance before subscribing to Rolling Stone? I doubt it. Just curious: Are there any other bands who do it that way, selling a subscription of physical product? I'd definitely sign up for Dylan, Lou Reed and quite a few others ...

Rainbow Dome Musik

Colin-a fine album, and the event you attended is now considered the stuff of legend. Quite a privilege sitting next to his nibs as well.

Here Comes Sunshine

I say good things about the Dead when they do good things and offer my criticisms when I disagree, but unlike some twerps out here who respond with personal insults, I never hero-worshipped anyone in the band and I sure as hell don't blow sunshine up their asses 24/7.

I'm still waiting for a…

I'm still waiting for a reply from Customer Service as to why I received an unnumbered copy in my subscription for DP #36. I have always ordered two copies, and one stays sealed. So at least I have one that is numbered, but WTF guys. I thought unnumbered copies were promos and only given out to employees, stores, or replace orders lost in the mail. It almost makes me not want to subscribe for 2021.

Ledded

This is a great place for politics. Thanks for being a clown.

Subscription

Some people will complain about anything if it isn't exactly the way they want it. We call these people children . (and Byrd)

I might have missed it

Did Dave reveal DaP 38 yet? Doesn't he give away the show w/bonus disc before the subscription window closes?

Or does he announce the 2nd DaP of the year AFTER the subscription window closes?

I can never remember how it goes, year to year. 'Course, whether that's due to 48 years of pot and tripping or the meds I'm on now 'cuz I broke a couple bones in my foot Wednesday night, I can't say for sure.

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Some people accept anything, whether they like it or not, and misunderstand constructive criticism. They also have a tendency to label people they don't understand.

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