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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

    David Lemieux
    October 2020

    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • JimInMD
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    I Subscribed, I expect I will for the foreseeable future

    Not blind loyalty, I really like the music. Even the 'lesser' shows get occasional, usually pleasant relistens, there's usually a nugget or thee of truth in there somewhere. My advice, pony up for the early bird pricing and let the chips fall where they may. Easy breezy.

    We all should feel free to express our opinions, all views are welcome. It would make for a more enjoyable read if we can find a way to get our point across without slashing and burning the entire forest. It stinks in here.., or as my French teacher Mrs. Feldman used to say, "c'est odeur affreuse"

    Their business model is their business, our choice is to buy or not.. I don't think there is much we can write in these forums that will influence their short or long term decision making. Sales and purchase behavior are what they pay attention to. In almost all cases the music is already out there for free, ready to be enjoyed without much effort at all so you rarely have to buy physical product to listen and enjoy. I fully support their efforts to clean up, preserve and restore the now mostly ancient recordings and make them as good as they can be. These mastered recordings are part of an important historical record. The Band and Rhino have a responsibility to clean them up and preserve them to the best extent they can. This likely means the next ten releases will not be the next ten you want released, more like the ten that best fit this purpose.., in the end it will even out and those ten shows will get released. If that takes a cento out of my pocket each year, I'd call that a bargain.

    Where were we again..
    We are really due for a '69, fall '72 or a fall/summer '73. These are prime candidates for the second release slot of the year and offer bonus disc potential. In another month or so we will get news on #38. My guess is it's going to be a smoker.

  • daverock
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    Snafu

    I would hope no one would send you hate mail for expressing an opinion. Your truth isn't my truth, but that's no cause for concern.

  • snafu
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    What's a circle jerk antifa?

    Well for those that need an explanation.... while antifa is certainly not a joke in my usage that's what I used it as. Circle jerk, yea I can see why the couple of dozen it refers would claim ignorance. As far as being harsh, not nice etc. Huh? The circle I was referring to were the same people who abuse and accuse the people who give us so much pleasure of heinous corrupt actions including the following making money, designing a business plan that allows us to enjoy so much etc.
    Dreading I'm sorry if you took any flak for stating the econ 101 basics. But me well someone needs to speak the truth clearly. Now you haters can start the obscene pms

  • Gratefulhan
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    Happy Life Day!

    For those that may know its Life Day today...
    I am going to go for the Jammy Trinity of 11/17/71, 11/17/72, and 11/17/73. I may cap it off with both of the 11/17/78 affairs. Finally 11/17 happens in 1985, so I may add that to the mix as I do have that 85 affliction. It may take me a few days to get through it all but its worth it.

    Also has anyone listened to the 30 Day of Dead selection for today? Its got a bommin' Shakedown.

  • Oxford 88
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    Nice to see the era- wars…

    Nice to see the era- wars have calmed... Onto the business model! Love you all, miss the banter... It's all about the music, right?

  • Maine Dave
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    Once upon a time...

    Once upon a time I went to a concert. I don't remember the band but they were really good. I bought a ticket and --check this crazy shit out -- I didn't even know what songs they were going to play ahead of time. Trippy, right? So then I went to the venue and they turned down the lights and the band came out and they had their instruments and everything and the crowd started yelling and then it was like, wait, wait, what song are they playing? We don't even know yet! And then they played a song and then when they finished that one they started playing another one and they didn't even announce what all the others were going to be even then. They just started playing it. You'd probably recognize which song I mean, it's the one with the guitar solo.

    So anyway... the whole concert was like that, it was like, here's another song now. And they didn't announce a single one beforehand. Try wrapping your head around that! My mind was seriously blown. But the thing is... it was kind of fun, you know? I mean, I liked the band, pretty much, so even if every single song wasn't their best one, there was still a pretty good chance that I would dig it, or a part of it at least.

    That was the only concert I went to that was all crazy and backwards like that. All the others were normal -- you know, like when I went to buy the ticket, they provided a set list, in order, of all the songs they would play, before I handed over the money. So, I knew exactly what I would be getting, which is obviously way better and way more fun, because it sucks all the spontaneity and surprise out of the experience of hearing music, which is after all the whole point. So I'm glad that most of the time, I had all my musical experiences curated for me beforehand, because it meant that I never had to listen to something unexpected. 'Cause man, I hate that.

    Hey, has anyone heard Green Lung? Great pagan-metal stoner rockers from the UK. Cheesy as hell and super fun.

  • hendrixfreak
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    Whining wins, readers lose...

    With all the unmitigated crap-ola on our plates today, some few have to turn this site into a bitch-fest about the subscription model? Seriously? It's been the model for years. Do we have to return to the most basic logic of adulthood? If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you like to take a chance on which shows will be released, then buy it. At ~$7 per disc for well-curated shows -- some hit, some miss -- it's not a big deal either way. Personally, I'm not totally stoked over DaPs 35, 36 and 37, but I'm supporting the vault release program and looking long term for more killer shows from my own sweet spots. But the whining here is the definition of buzz kill.

    Looking forward to GarciaLive 15, Jimi on Maui and a stack of Petty, Prine, Jennings, and Dylan. And the news on DaP 38, whatever it will be.

  • Crow Told Me
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    I remember when the Antifa Babies opened ...

    ... for the Circle Jerks at the Mabuhay. Great show, till the Babies’ singer bit his tongue off, somebody pulled the fire alarm, and all the sprinklers went off and ruined my toilet paper dog collar. But I digress.

    Let me see if I can figure out exactly what the complaint is here.

    After lengthy consideration, some proactive data mining cybermetrics, and a long talk with my cat, I have concluded the problem is that some people feel like Dave should announce ALL of the shows as soon as the “early bird” deal is announced so that could make a more informed decision. That’s not a totally unreasonable thing to ask, but I can think of a couple reasons why maybe the DP folks don’t do it that way.

    Maybe it’s not practical for them to plan that far ahead: auditioning tapes, reviewing sound quality, and everything else that goes into choosing a show for release takes time, and it’s not like they’ve got dozens of people working round the clock on this. Or maybe they just like being able to keep their options open as they listen to buyer feedback: like, say, if they get a lot of people saying they don’t like having so much audience noise in a given release, maybe they would reconsider plans for another one like it? You gotta remember: this is small operation, serving a niche market.

    I mean, they’re not just doing this to be dicks. And it’s not like they’re making a huge fortune off it. I would suspect that the profit from selling roughly 20k CD sets is probably just enough to employ a couple people to keep the series going. You’re enough of a fan to want the whole series sight unseen? You get the best deal. You want only to cherry pick only the shows you want? You pay a little more, but you still get what you want. You’re not interested in any of ‘em? You pay nothing. It all seems fair to me.

  • Colin Gould
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    What's A "Circle Jerk Antifa Baby?"

    UNKLE SAM

    Is it a cousin conceived by an unusual form of artificial insemination?

    What I struggle to understand is how being called an anti-fascist became a term of abuse.

    I like the subscription model and I’m sure it’s good for the company as well since it means that they get a large amount of their money upfront so they know the releases are viable. If they had to wait to see how each disc sold then they would, I’m believe, put out fewer shows.

  • unkle sam
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    what's a "circle jerk antifa baby?"

    wow, those are some harsh comments coming from some here. it's ok, breath, take a step back, breath. On a funny note, did you hear the one about the women in DC last weekend, they were screaming something about antifa and one woman asked another "who is antifa?" the other answered "I don't know, but they sure don't like her." wonka wonka wonka. Some folks just can't turn the page.
    I don't have a problem with the subs, especially the early bird special. Great name, early bird special, the early bird gets the special limited edition one time only never to be seen again only you and 22,000 others will have it disc. Gotta love that. ;)
    There have been a few Dave's I haven't been real fond of, but I still love the Grateful Dead and anything that has Jerry going up and down the frets and Phil thumping and Bobby cheesing and Micky and Billy keeping the beat is just fine with me. Thank you for still releasing these shows, they have kept me sane for a little while longer although lately things seem to be getting a bit weird. I haven't left the house except for groceries and dope for 8 months so I too have gotten weirder. But it's ok, take a step back, breath ...

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

David Lemieux
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Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

It’s difficult to know when pre-orders will be sent out. My unreliable memory tells me that dead.net said they had changed their system and would be sending pre-orders out ahead of the release date and I think a few lucky people got #36 before the release date. Previously, the sets weren’t sent out until the release date itself (29 Jan).
The rate determining step isn’t the dispatch it’s the delivery handling. I got an email telling me that #36 had been sent, but in reality it didn’t move for another 7 days and took a lot longer to get to me. I, at least, was lucky enough to get the delivery. I believe a few people are still waiting. Of course, times are strange at the moment so glitches in the systems must be expected. I’m confident it will be worth the wait.

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Ark! Ark! I've been wishing for that release for a while, much like most here I'm sure. Here's to a miracle!

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I'll call your unreliable memory and

What were we talking about? ah... 1/13 and 1/14/1970, The Grateful Goddamn Dead.. (oops, I got ahead of my skis. I'm a month early for the FE shows, either that or I have a very rotten memory)

Ark Ark.

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I have the greatest memory in the history of humanity. Of course, I can prove this by letting you all know that......the tea cart I used to have is, Could I please have extra cheese on that, I need to know what the GVWR on that vehicle is, how many limbs are there in a box of Devonshire pub malt liquor, excuse me, I was talking here, Tuesday is the name of my nike shoes. I would like to pick up my order at 3:33, check on the hog all purple.

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They used to say that smoking led to memory loss. It wasn't all good news - there were supposed to be negative side effects as well. But I can't remember what they were.

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1) I think it's safe to say that if we don't receive a shipping confirmation by next week same time then it is safe to assume that DaP 37 will come out around the time or after the official release (1/29), which is a bit disappointing but not the end of the world

2) IDK what happened but it seems like every other person here had an issue with DaP 36, myself only receiving it in the latter half of December. However, as Dennis pointed out, paying for a download and not even being able to download it is a travesty in and of itself. Let's hope this year we can at least get a more consistent and smoother rollout of their products, especially with a box set down the line this year

3) Ark box set seems criminally late considering how great some of the recordings on the archive are. I'm also curious as to whether we'll see a Vince era release sometime this year. By this point in the DiP series, we had 3 seperate Vince Era shows (DiP 9, 17 & 27) which are all excellent shows from excellent tours. Same goes for the Road Trips (Vol 2 No 1 & Vol 2 No 4) and Download Series (11). Maybe they seem to think that with the standalone release of 6/17/91 and Ready or Not that they don't need to delve further into this era but some shows are just bananas, my personal highlights being shows such as 12/12/90 (just awesome), 9/22/91 (killer shakedown), 5/5/91 (H>S>F), and 3/17/93 (First Lucy in the Sky). Something from '91 would be really appreciated by me personally.

Anyways, thanks for listening to my TedTalk

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12/16/92

quite a contrast to 3/18/67

working from home has given me the chance to listen to a lot of GD (albeit usually on lower volume...c'est la vie).

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is "sold out." See the Store page.

That's a first, no? And has anyone heard Dave say what number of subs are available versus ala carte?

Not important, just curious, as always.

Lookin' for that fall '72 box preorder sometime in May. When it is warm and many have been vaccinated. Gotta have something to look forward to!

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As Colin Gould said some 70 posts back:

"Every year people come on and ask why the subscription button doesn’t work. This is because they have missed the deadline. If you want to subscribe for the 2021 DaP series then you have until 11:59PM PST Friday 8th January."

I always thought that was something of a self fulfilling prophecy. In fact, I seem to remember eating more crap in my early drinking days than when I smoked-late night curries and all that. Maybe a difference in American and British stoner culture.

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Alcohol gives you the munchies more than weed for sure. Ever checked out that open till 3 am college convenience store after the bars close? If you look closely you can sometimes see drunk college students taking that radioactive nacho cheese sauce intravenously... including the pickled jalapenos.

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After going whole-hog on the Dead for a while before the holidays, I'm taking a little break. I started a "serious" run-through of the entire Spring '90, so will pick that up again when I resume my GD listening. Boy, those shows were well-recorded, and the band was ON. I have also decided to try some streaming, so have trial memberships going in Qobuz and Tidal Hi-Fi. Man, a fledgling Deadhead could sure do worse than to pay $150/year to stream EVERY GD release in CD (or better) quality. :-O

So I'll present a Last Five Listened To, and a Last Five Read

Listened To:
Bach--Violin Sonatas and Partitias; Christian Tetzlaff
Shostakovich String Quartets--Pacifica Quartet
Debussy Solo Piano Works--Jean-Efflam Bavouzet
Joni Mitchell--Archives, Vol. 1: The Early Years
Anthony Braxton--Three Compositions in New Jazz

Last Five Read:
All the Light We Cannot See--Anthony Doerr
Their Eyes Were Watching God--Zora Neale Hurston
The God of Small Things--Arundhati Roy
The Kitchen God's Wife--Amy Tan
American Gods--Neil Gaiman (hmmm . . . don't know why so many "God" books!)

Currently working on Anti-Intellectualism in American Life by Richard Hofstadter (written in 1963!) and Thomas Pynchon's novel V. I think that latter book was recommended by someone here. I may abandon it if I don't start "getting it" soon.

Be well, do good work, and keep in touch . . .

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RIP as another one of my heroes leaves us. Vanilla Fudge, Cactus and Beck, Bogart and Appice. Met him once when he was with Cactus, very cool guy and had a wicked sense of humor.

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so many odd things going on
started in 2020
but daily, weird and terrible and great things are happening
twas ever thus I suppose
but man

if you have an idle 3 hours, I will tell you all about it

GD at the moment: RT 79 disc 2

"do everything that's in you, you feel to be your part"

Injecting anything you don't have to on the basis of medical advice is insane. There were people round here injecting alcohol a while back. I heard of someone suggesting injecting disinfectant last year, too. Crazy.

Reminds me of my old joke about the man injecting curry powder. I went round to help, but by the time I got there it was too late-he had already gone into a korma (coma). Sorry if you've heard it before.

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Boogie With Canned Heat
Green Line-Steve Marcus
Laughing Stock-Talk Talk
Blue World-John Coltrane
Electric Tonic-Medeski, Martin & Wood

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So does anyone have info on whether 4/4, 4/5, and/or 4/6 are in the Vault?

Looks like a wild three nights and only a month after the Live/Dead shows.

I guess we'll know in two weeks if Dave L. will tease anything about this year's goodies when he goes superlative over the upcoming April '78 show. (As you well know) I'm betting on a (6) show box from fall '72, 18 discs, $200.

Where do I get these detailed fantasies? C'mon, bein' a shut-in for 10 months tends to hatch all kinds of ideas.

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Nothing surprises me anymore. Remember a few years ago when kids thought it was cool to eat laundry detergent?

Then came the alcohol enema. Becasue of course, the whole point is not to socialize with friends and loosen up a bit, its to proceed straight to blackout drunk as quickly as possible, and the upshot must be that you already have your pants down.

Its not a big leap to mainlining some mushrooms. I prefer shiitakes myself. After all, who has 45 minutes to wait for the drugs to come on? We are truly in the age of instant gratification.

Daverock, great one! That's V-guy worthy. 🤣

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Another great under the radar player. Saw him at my first Bobby show: Bobby and the Midnights at the infamous Kleinhans Music hall on Election Day 1980....still have newspaper clipping with headline “Weir Wins by a landslide”..
Besides his personal talents, Jeff Beck has always had a knack for finding awesome Bass Players!

As far as weird drug fetishes,I’ll stick with Ibogaine ; )

EDIT: Slow Dog, once again you’ve made me laugh and smile! Thanks!

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Okeefe centre
8 4 67
8 5 67

Only a few GD tracks, but they are niiiiice

The discs I have also have Jefferson Airplane

After psychedelijizzin' with the GD, JA sounds lame. Just saying.

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JA i do like bless its pointed little head
And most of JA takes off
and Baxters

Jorma and Jack were kkeeyy to their sound

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I believe the two partial shows were the first segments I pulled down from archive.org when I first stumbled upon it. I forget the reason, I think someone was hyping this.. perhaps Gans, I forget. The subject matter I remember.. the growth during this period and their ability to improvise. How different these shows were compared to their last.. and how rewarding the risks they were taking musically turned out to be.

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Talking of hot 67...the above's concert at The Roundhouse was on television over Christmas, and I got round to watching it last night. I was at this show, and loved it to pieces, but I wasn't sure how well it would translate to a recording. I needn't have worried. It opens with an incredible sonic punch-Interstellar Overdrive-Astronomy Domine-Lucifer Sam. The kind of mad clatter that Pink Floyd jettisoned as the 70s wore on, all powered along by Nick Mason's high energy drumming. It sounds amazing. Looks as though its available on blu ray/dvd/cd, too.

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Jorma turned 80 less than a month ago. These guys are true monsters. Saw them back in the '70s and ;pretty much every opportunity for the next 45 years. No idea how many shows, probably in the dozens. Lifers. Them and me (in a small way). Jack would actually leave the ground at times during their sets. When they got into their hard core electric jams, they still had the goods. True masters at acoustic and electric blues and rock idioms.

I had tickets for my other two favorite working bands -- Los Lobos and Tedeschi and Trucks -- but, well, you know.

Okay, lost my focus on the future for a moment, thinking back to nearly one year ago when Jack and Jorma rocked the Boulder Theater. Now looking forward again, won't mention "2020" ......

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Completely agree.. these guys are the real deal.

I forget the first time I saw Hot Tuna, but it was not in the '70's.. these guys are the real deal and every time I have seen them has been more than worth the effort. Add in NRPS and you have a nearly perfect trifecta of great bands you must see perform live.

Especially Jorma, they guy can pick.

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guested on 11 20 70

I am not a big fan of guests with the GD, but 11 20 70 is an exception

Check out Fat Angel on Blessitspointedlittlehead

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