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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

    David Lemieux
    October 2020

    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • Vguy72
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    Meanwhile....

    ....AC/DC just put out a new record.
    My amp goes to 11.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Steady supply of releases

    Yes dreading.

    Keep ‘em coming Dave and gang.

  • dreading
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    Byrd

    I own a music store business. I don't know if you're interested in the mechanics of business, but trust me when I say this business model is the absolute best way to ensure we, as fans, get a steady supply of 4 Dave's Picks a year, 1 or 2 box sets, and all of the special features like 50th anniversary editions that have incredible multi track concerts attached to them. Having stock of every release laying around for 10 years means they don't have budget for all the goodies I mentioned. It could mean the difference between 4 Dave's Picks a year and maybe only 2. Maybe only a box set every other year. Trust me on this. You have to move product to stay within budget, whether you're a small business or a segment of a large business like Warner. It's the same concept behind retail stores having periods of time where merchandise is available at a lower "Sale" price. They don't do that because they're nice. They do that to move product and stay in budget. Offering the series up as a subscription works for them because it allows them to project sales in the long term. They offer up the bonus disc to ensure they know exactly how big their core"Dead Base" is. The scales of supply and demand have a lot of factors involved, and the limited edition model plus the bonus disc incentive keeps them in business selling Grateful Dead music and us happy listening to it.

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    I don't know...is it a question of inappropriately feeling entitled? I see it as just wanting to know what's for sale so I can make a decision as to whether I want to buy it or not. I just don't get why they can't announce a shows date before its released, so that those as want it can buy it, and this as don't...don't. No other band I like does all this. It feels like I have to join some sort of club to get shows-and I am not by any means a joiner.

    On the vinyl front-Dicks Picks 26 is a mind blower. And I have only just realised that the encore for one of the shows-4/26/69-Viola Lee Blues-is included in The Phil Zone, but is not on Dicks Picks. Its only taken me 18 years..

  • fourwindsblow
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    Subs

    I doubt this will happen with the increased run, but you never know. If they sell a lot of subs they will pull the subs so that they have a few thousand to sell a la cart. Happened a couple years ago subs ended before the end of December.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Just so happens I still have the email announcements

    12-30-19

    We're thrilled to announce that we've just locked in Dave's Picks Vol. 34, the second release in the Dave's Picks series of 2020, and it's a mighty powerful show: the complete performance from June 23, 1974, at Miami's Jai-Alai Fronton.

    1-6-20

    This is it! There are only two days left to become a 2020 Dave's Picks subscriber. Subscriptions will come to end on Wednesday, January 8th at 11:59 PM PST.
    DAVE'S PICKS 2020 SUBSCRIPTION BENEFITS
    Four Limited Edition, Numbered Releases
    Dave's Picks 33: 10/29/77 Dekalb, IL
    Dave's Picks 34: 6/23/74 Miami, FL
    Dave's Picks 35 & 36 To Be Revealed!
    Highly Collectible Bonus Disc - nearly 80 minutes of music from 6/22/74

  • hendrixfreak
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    Thanks gentlemen, and I use that term loosely....

    Right, we're waiting for the subscriptions to close, THEN Dave will talk #38 and make those who failed to sub gnash their teeth. (He said "gnash"...) I'm perennially looking forward to something to look forward to, so if # 38 be epic, let it be known!

    Wilfred T: On the robot front, think about it. At least in fiction and movies, they DO make mistakes, often malevolent ones, and that's when the "fun" begins. Think about the problems the astronaut "Dave" had, once "Hal" didn't like what "Dave" was doing in 2001: A Space Odyssey. (Edit: Wait! "Dave"???)

    On the foot front, my first-ever broken bones, at age 63+, and with two elderly family members seemingly on the cusp of surviving covid, I ain't bitchin', though I've had to switch gears. Lots of reading and delving into the veritable pile of new music CDs on my coffee table.

    Carry on...

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Nothing has changed with ala carte sales

    Except that they go on sale the day that the release is ‘released’ to the subscribers. Thus, an attempt to deflect the criticisms from some subscribers that happens with every release when people who buy ala carte receive their copy before some subscribers receive their copy.

    It doesn’t change demand. A hot show will sell out at the same rate whether the arbitrary day is a ‘pre-sale’ day or a ‘release’ day.

    It’s amazing how many people complain that they have been cheated, scammed, and/or mislead with these releases that they feel they are so rightfully entitled to, and how dare GD/Rhino/Dave do anything other than cater directly to these people.

    Failed or delayed delivery, damaged product, wrong resolution download, etc are legitimate complaints and should be promptly fixed by a competent customer service office (which Rhino apparently no longer has).
    But GD/Rhino does not have to apologize for setting the terms for which they sell their product.

  • daverock
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    No more pre orders

    Another under hand technique to manipulate people. Along with the early bird bribe, the bonus disc and the limited amount of discs available for stand alone orders. Liking so much of the music, its always tempting to go along with it. But its seems more tempting this year to wave two fingers at them, and opt out.

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    https://www.youtube.com…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JukZBGgv8I

    Time to leap into a worthwhile memory...

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

David Lemieux
October 2020

Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

It’s difficult to know when pre-orders will be sent out. My unreliable memory tells me that dead.net said they had changed their system and would be sending pre-orders out ahead of the release date and I think a few lucky people got #36 before the release date. Previously, the sets weren’t sent out until the release date itself (29 Jan).
The rate determining step isn’t the dispatch it’s the delivery handling. I got an email telling me that #36 had been sent, but in reality it didn’t move for another 7 days and took a lot longer to get to me. I, at least, was lucky enough to get the delivery. I believe a few people are still waiting. Of course, times are strange at the moment so glitches in the systems must be expected. I’m confident it will be worth the wait.

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Ark! Ark! I've been wishing for that release for a while, much like most here I'm sure. Here's to a miracle!

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I'll call your unreliable memory and

What were we talking about? ah... 1/13 and 1/14/1970, The Grateful Goddamn Dead.. (oops, I got ahead of my skis. I'm a month early for the FE shows, either that or I have a very rotten memory)

Ark Ark.

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I have the greatest memory in the history of humanity. Of course, I can prove this by letting you all know that......the tea cart I used to have is, Could I please have extra cheese on that, I need to know what the GVWR on that vehicle is, how many limbs are there in a box of Devonshire pub malt liquor, excuse me, I was talking here, Tuesday is the name of my nike shoes. I would like to pick up my order at 3:33, check on the hog all purple.

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They used to say that smoking led to memory loss. It wasn't all good news - there were supposed to be negative side effects as well. But I can't remember what they were.

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1) I think it's safe to say that if we don't receive a shipping confirmation by next week same time then it is safe to assume that DaP 37 will come out around the time or after the official release (1/29), which is a bit disappointing but not the end of the world

2) IDK what happened but it seems like every other person here had an issue with DaP 36, myself only receiving it in the latter half of December. However, as Dennis pointed out, paying for a download and not even being able to download it is a travesty in and of itself. Let's hope this year we can at least get a more consistent and smoother rollout of their products, especially with a box set down the line this year

3) Ark box set seems criminally late considering how great some of the recordings on the archive are. I'm also curious as to whether we'll see a Vince era release sometime this year. By this point in the DiP series, we had 3 seperate Vince Era shows (DiP 9, 17 & 27) which are all excellent shows from excellent tours. Same goes for the Road Trips (Vol 2 No 1 & Vol 2 No 4) and Download Series (11). Maybe they seem to think that with the standalone release of 6/17/91 and Ready or Not that they don't need to delve further into this era but some shows are just bananas, my personal highlights being shows such as 12/12/90 (just awesome), 9/22/91 (killer shakedown), 5/5/91 (H>S>F), and 3/17/93 (First Lucy in the Sky). Something from '91 would be really appreciated by me personally.

Anyways, thanks for listening to my TedTalk

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12/16/92

quite a contrast to 3/18/67

working from home has given me the chance to listen to a lot of GD (albeit usually on lower volume...c'est la vie).

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is "sold out." See the Store page.

That's a first, no? And has anyone heard Dave say what number of subs are available versus ala carte?

Not important, just curious, as always.

Lookin' for that fall '72 box preorder sometime in May. When it is warm and many have been vaccinated. Gotta have something to look forward to!

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As Colin Gould said some 70 posts back:

"Every year people come on and ask why the subscription button doesn’t work. This is because they have missed the deadline. If you want to subscribe for the 2021 DaP series then you have until 11:59PM PST Friday 8th January."

I always thought that was something of a self fulfilling prophecy. In fact, I seem to remember eating more crap in my early drinking days than when I smoked-late night curries and all that. Maybe a difference in American and British stoner culture.

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Alcohol gives you the munchies more than weed for sure. Ever checked out that open till 3 am college convenience store after the bars close? If you look closely you can sometimes see drunk college students taking that radioactive nacho cheese sauce intravenously... including the pickled jalapenos.

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After going whole-hog on the Dead for a while before the holidays, I'm taking a little break. I started a "serious" run-through of the entire Spring '90, so will pick that up again when I resume my GD listening. Boy, those shows were well-recorded, and the band was ON. I have also decided to try some streaming, so have trial memberships going in Qobuz and Tidal Hi-Fi. Man, a fledgling Deadhead could sure do worse than to pay $150/year to stream EVERY GD release in CD (or better) quality. :-O

So I'll present a Last Five Listened To, and a Last Five Read

Listened To:
Bach--Violin Sonatas and Partitias; Christian Tetzlaff
Shostakovich String Quartets--Pacifica Quartet
Debussy Solo Piano Works--Jean-Efflam Bavouzet
Joni Mitchell--Archives, Vol. 1: The Early Years
Anthony Braxton--Three Compositions in New Jazz

Last Five Read:
All the Light We Cannot See--Anthony Doerr
Their Eyes Were Watching God--Zora Neale Hurston
The God of Small Things--Arundhati Roy
The Kitchen God's Wife--Amy Tan
American Gods--Neil Gaiman (hmmm . . . don't know why so many "God" books!)

Currently working on Anti-Intellectualism in American Life by Richard Hofstadter (written in 1963!) and Thomas Pynchon's novel V. I think that latter book was recommended by someone here. I may abandon it if I don't start "getting it" soon.

Be well, do good work, and keep in touch . . .

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RIP as another one of my heroes leaves us. Vanilla Fudge, Cactus and Beck, Bogart and Appice. Met him once when he was with Cactus, very cool guy and had a wicked sense of humor.

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so many odd things going on
started in 2020
but daily, weird and terrible and great things are happening
twas ever thus I suppose
but man

if you have an idle 3 hours, I will tell you all about it

GD at the moment: RT 79 disc 2

"do everything that's in you, you feel to be your part"

Injecting anything you don't have to on the basis of medical advice is insane. There were people round here injecting alcohol a while back. I heard of someone suggesting injecting disinfectant last year, too. Crazy.

Reminds me of my old joke about the man injecting curry powder. I went round to help, but by the time I got there it was too late-he had already gone into a korma (coma). Sorry if you've heard it before.

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Boogie With Canned Heat
Green Line-Steve Marcus
Laughing Stock-Talk Talk
Blue World-John Coltrane
Electric Tonic-Medeski, Martin & Wood

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So does anyone have info on whether 4/4, 4/5, and/or 4/6 are in the Vault?

Looks like a wild three nights and only a month after the Live/Dead shows.

I guess we'll know in two weeks if Dave L. will tease anything about this year's goodies when he goes superlative over the upcoming April '78 show. (As you well know) I'm betting on a (6) show box from fall '72, 18 discs, $200.

Where do I get these detailed fantasies? C'mon, bein' a shut-in for 10 months tends to hatch all kinds of ideas.

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Nothing surprises me anymore. Remember a few years ago when kids thought it was cool to eat laundry detergent?

Then came the alcohol enema. Becasue of course, the whole point is not to socialize with friends and loosen up a bit, its to proceed straight to blackout drunk as quickly as possible, and the upshot must be that you already have your pants down.

Its not a big leap to mainlining some mushrooms. I prefer shiitakes myself. After all, who has 45 minutes to wait for the drugs to come on? We are truly in the age of instant gratification.

Daverock, great one! That's V-guy worthy. 🤣

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Another great under the radar player. Saw him at my first Bobby show: Bobby and the Midnights at the infamous Kleinhans Music hall on Election Day 1980....still have newspaper clipping with headline “Weir Wins by a landslide”..
Besides his personal talents, Jeff Beck has always had a knack for finding awesome Bass Players!

As far as weird drug fetishes,I’ll stick with Ibogaine ; )

EDIT: Slow Dog, once again you’ve made me laugh and smile! Thanks!

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Okeefe centre
8 4 67
8 5 67

Only a few GD tracks, but they are niiiiice

The discs I have also have Jefferson Airplane

After psychedelijizzin' with the GD, JA sounds lame. Just saying.

Addendum at 9
JA i do like bless its pointed little head
And most of JA takes off
and Baxters

Jorma and Jack were kkeeyy to their sound

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I believe the two partial shows were the first segments I pulled down from archive.org when I first stumbled upon it. I forget the reason, I think someone was hyping this.. perhaps Gans, I forget. The subject matter I remember.. the growth during this period and their ability to improvise. How different these shows were compared to their last.. and how rewarding the risks they were taking musically turned out to be.

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Talking of hot 67...the above's concert at The Roundhouse was on television over Christmas, and I got round to watching it last night. I was at this show, and loved it to pieces, but I wasn't sure how well it would translate to a recording. I needn't have worried. It opens with an incredible sonic punch-Interstellar Overdrive-Astronomy Domine-Lucifer Sam. The kind of mad clatter that Pink Floyd jettisoned as the 70s wore on, all powered along by Nick Mason's high energy drumming. It sounds amazing. Looks as though its available on blu ray/dvd/cd, too.

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Jorma turned 80 less than a month ago. These guys are true monsters. Saw them back in the '70s and ;pretty much every opportunity for the next 45 years. No idea how many shows, probably in the dozens. Lifers. Them and me (in a small way). Jack would actually leave the ground at times during their sets. When they got into their hard core electric jams, they still had the goods. True masters at acoustic and electric blues and rock idioms.

I had tickets for my other two favorite working bands -- Los Lobos and Tedeschi and Trucks -- but, well, you know.

Okay, lost my focus on the future for a moment, thinking back to nearly one year ago when Jack and Jorma rocked the Boulder Theater. Now looking forward again, won't mention "2020" ......

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Completely agree.. these guys are the real deal.

I forget the first time I saw Hot Tuna, but it was not in the '70's.. these guys are the real deal and every time I have seen them has been more than worth the effort. Add in NRPS and you have a nearly perfect trifecta of great bands you must see perform live.

Especially Jorma, they guy can pick.

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guested on 11 20 70

I am not a big fan of guests with the GD, but 11 20 70 is an exception

Check out Fat Angel on Blessitspointedlittlehead

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