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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    4/2/82, Issss ok?
    I’d check out one of those GOGD 92s in this case…

    10/15/88 was kinda how I remember? The first couple start out strong!
    Actually better in that JG seems kinda on, and does some cool expressive stuff. Bob sounds like his voice is getting fucked? When was it he had surgery etc? Overall it’s decent, JG definitely steps it up.
    The recording seemed a bit funky too? Sometimes it was stellar, others kinda distorty wobbly? Flutter?
    Overall agood show but didn’t seem to go furthur for lack of better description?
    I’d call it status quo for the times?
    Kinda my recollection of the times: Besides those Hampton 88 shows it seemed at the time like 87, after the big scare in 86, was about laying back a little, regrouping and getting right as a unit again. This built slowly and continued until the peak in 89 or 90.
    But that’s perhaps an overgeneralization based on nostalgia at the time? To some it was a big change from the insane roller coaster it had been to the relative moderate vibe of the time?
    Perhaps like going from 69 psychedelic to 70 acoustic, good, but a big difference? Energy wise…
    There probably is, like we’re finding elsewhere, at least some better then status quo 88 shows?
    Just gotta poke around…
    It’s funny how much our perceptions and preconceived notions can change after all these years.
    Again, thank goodness for the archive, because sometimes yer memory is fucked lol.

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    No, no, no, amigo, by tolerance I ment like physiological, like when you tripped three shows in a row, by the third night you needed 2, whilst the first night one was enough etc.
    like when I was a pro I could go to my folks and eat dinner on fungus, but today I’d probably be afraid to leave the house. I’m not in practice, and I have no physical tolerance etc.
    Weed especially is easy to build a tolerance, why I think DUI laws are unconstitutional. Not that there shouldn’t be any laws, just the ones they have are fucked, imho…no offense meant to anyone.

    Too funny cause when I typed that I thought “I hope he gets what I’m saying” lol

    Ain’t no time to hate!

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    4/2/82

    How was it? Is it worth a go?
    I will give it a spin.

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    There is no hate in this house.

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    Rollin

    Sorry DV, the situation is the boss, and the situation at the time called for more shows! ; )
    When I get on these show sprees I just go with it. I don’t expect sane people to binge that hard.
    Then I just set em out there and see what takes. So what ever way your pleasure tends amigo!

    GANGSTER: Dennis “don’t try this at home kids” Superfly!
    Hitting big high test tubes for Bfast!
    It is all about tolerance isn’t it?

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    Was able to listen to this whole show yesterday. Good show. I think the 21 Miller was good. Nice TMNS, Sugaree, Queen Jane. Good second set, with that Crazy Fingers, Playing, UJB, good Truckin Smokestack Lightning, nice Stella Blue.
    And you guys were there, must have been fun. Hope they didn't harass you to much at this show PT Barnum.
    Hey OB, did you slip in another 82 on us? I must have missed it.

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    Quick question

    anybody get any word about the 3 from the vault in vinyl release. The three should have been released yesterday and I've seen no words.

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    shattered by the experience.

    First time was at the store one night, co-worker (read kid) says, hey, try? Sure, I say I'm a veteran of the smoke wars, I've burned it all, what the hell. Bathroom, bong and WOW. I stood at the counter just putting price stickers on stock, trying hard to be invisible to customers.

    Well that was then, this is now. Just like Carnegie Hall, it takes practice to master the concentrates :-) About all I smoke now. Great item for work since it has virtually no smell. But now I smoke it like it was just rolled product. Hard to beat a big hit off tall glass first thing in the AM,,,, know what I mean? :-)

    BTW,,,,, Glass 41 came yesterday,,,, looked very nice. (three more of these glassess and I think they'll look better that an axe!

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    Thanks Oro

    That is kind of sad that I feel well enough nowto realize how sick I got.

    GreatStory,saw ur posts over on E72, thought of posting something there but then thought just wait till 42.

    As far as1988,did Miami, Pete, NO. It was a nice little run. More tomorrow.
    Hope all well your way. Jim talked about 10/15 might get some Phish listening instead. Ouch and Ha Ha!
    Sure hope it doesn't disappoint me.

    I love Phish,but still listen primarily to Dead related stuff.

    Need to go back and discuss stereo stuff.

    Am glad you guys are so deadicated.

    G

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    It’s a conspiracy lol

    Every time I get too busy, all kinds of stuff goes on here, it must be a conspiracy; )

    Shatter, or some super high concentrated stuff?
    This was more sticky/gooey and we just stuck a little on top.
    Well, one of the first times I tried it, I’m sitting on the couch with the other half who is not a partier, has never burned etc. So I felt like oh boy, think I’m gonna have to lay down (mind you I’m sitting on the couch) but didn’t want to freak her out. It’s one thing to be too high, but quite another dealing with a nervous civilian at the same time lol.
    So I had to say something or she’d freak out. Like, “I’m ok, just need a time out” lol.
    Yeah, that stuff was too strong. Definitely a “it’s only a drug, just have to ride it out” moment for sure.
    My grower guy at the time was passing out free grams. He actually snowboarded into this job site (he’s a programmer so only needed lap top in back pack) and started passing out free samples.
    So next day or so after all the folks working there who had by now tried it all saying similar funny stuff. Luckily nobody had been driving.

    10/9/89: it’s funny you mention that one. I was not tripping much in those days and hadn’t at those shows (unfortunately) but I remember coming out of the Hampton spaceship and feeling like I was tripping.
    Maybe contact buzz from sharing Js, but I don’t think so…interesting. Maybe they sprayed us like Shoreline 90?

    10/15/88: I’m behind again but I’ll put it on the list. I was at those shows and seem to recall having a good time but feeling the shows were sorta status quo? I’ll have to check them out! I know when I finally heard Miami years later I was kinda blown away, and the 15th does look good. The 16th might have been I was burnt by then so not feeling it?
    I also was just hanging out in the back…
    Thank god for the archive, I’ll have to check em out!
    Man that was a SCENE there in St Pete’s! It was wild how there was all that empty land down there and they basically let us take over. I fondly recall they put in out door showers with no curtains/covers and how nice it was parting at my buddies van watching all the cute lil DH gals getting neck-ed without any hangups!
    My buddy who was camped right by a shower had drove his Dark Blue van that had a giant turtle spare tire cover on it. Inside he had three large blue tanks of medipure gas! Which led to the ballon driving incident (already told so I won’t repeat)
    I can still see it: lounging in the warm beautiful FLA afternoon sun with plenty of killer Js, cold frosties and balloons just watching the girls frolic in the shower! Ahhh, such memories, Dead dreams to another land!
    ,
    Yeah, that trip was a gas, literally and figuratively. Three dead shows then a week of Golf and beach down in Naples.
    One of those you needed a vacation after your vacation!

    4/12/78: hit that a couple days ago. Definitely a good show, but perhaps slightly off for THAT tour?
    I haven’t checked em all out yet, but still feel like 4/15/78 (DaP 37), both Fox, especially 4/11/78, and perhaps 4/16/78 are tough to beat? Would love to hear others thoughts about this tour.
    Spring 78 has turned out to be a huge pleasant surprise for moi. With all complete Beatty’s in the vault you’d think there might be a box there, though the set lists are really repetitive.

    Also gave 4/2/82 and 6/9/92 the quick and dirty at work treatment.
    4/2/82 was decent, status quo for that tour which is really starting to grow on me!
    And boy 6/9/92 is damn near as good as the previous night, even without the big set list.
    That GOGD sure can pick em! Cool still finding good shows after 91.
    Have a great WE y’all!
    Good to see ya and hear your doing better Gary.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 02/15/2021 - 16:32

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Come on Oroborous, don't delete your post. I did see it. And yes, this is not this day in Grateful Dead History. I never look at that site, so I don't follow what they post each day. Some shows are worth a listen, but variety is welcome for sure.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 02/16/2021 - 08:35

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Ice & Snow kicked me off the internet for a day.
It was tough, let me tell ya.
Not sure how we grew up without this stuff ;)

Or, good thing we didn't have this when I was a kid or I never would've gone outside.

While I was in the wilderness without the internet, there was another Nudie suit sighting.
3/18/73 NRPS show
I'm listening to it now, the NRPS were wearing their Nudie Suits, and Keith, Donna, Bobby & Jerry all join the boys on the stage. They're talking to somebody from the bands and he says "we couldn't get Garcia to wear his though". So not sure if Keith Donna & Bobby have theirs on or not, they'd wear them the next night for the final time.

Pretty neat.

Digging the show, there's a nice FM copy on Archive here if you've not heard it -
https://archive.org/details/nrps1973-03-18.fm.weiner.21538.sbeok.shnf

There's a Willie and the Hand Jive that Garcia plays on.
(Since we've been discussing '86 and the Hand Jive has popped up, figure that was relevant)

The other thing I was learning yesterday without the internet was about the Carousel shows March 29-31, 1968.
Smoking stuff!!
Based on what I'm reading and hearing, I think 3/31/68 is the night Jerry pushed Phil.
You Play Goddammit!
If you want to flip your lid, listen to the Caution from 3/31... GODDAMN!
Some of that was definitely used on Anthem, and it's totally off the rails.
Wonder what the story is on these Reels in the Vault?

Well, there you go.
Who's got a pick?

EDIT - Oh yeah, I started to read up on Nanao but then lost the wi-fi, far out. Strikes me as a peaceful warrior.
Speaking of, you all ever read Peaceful Warrior? I read it when I was a kid, I think Dan Millman was the trapeze artist at the Trips Festival, trippy huh?!?!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 02/16/2021 - 11:03

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...yeah I know, deep subject (cue rim shot!) hey-ooo.
I see there are dates and ideas, but do we have a pick?

If not I’d like to suggest 2 ideas.
1) 5/3/86 from boxilla. Still haven’t got to this one and all this 86 talk makes me want to try some 86. Also. need my device for other stuff...
2) Capitol 71 run: I know Striders been anxiously prepping for the 18th, and yes though I get bored with same old repetitive anniversaries, this is different. This is like the difference between your unpteenth anniversary, (sorry Love!) and your 50th wedding Anniversary! So since we’ve been floundering a bit lately, how bout we start on the 18th and go the whole Capitol Run. If nothing else it’s like wearing a uniform to work; ya don’t have to think about what to ware in the morning! ; )
Or not, just a thought.

GOGD: have a research project if your interested. I can’t seem to find which Spectrum show had Wrestling before the Dead? I’m sure it was at the Spectrum, but I’m not sure if it was 86 or 87? I tried to cross reference with WWF 86 schedule but no luck, then I ran outta time...maybe their was a different “league” or something? I looked at comments on the archive too, but nobody mentions it? I’m not sure I’ll have that kinda time, but knowing you like to ferret these oddities out, thought you might enjoy it? I know we enjoy your adventures in the pursuit of all things Dead!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 02/16/2021 - 11:56

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I'll listen to 5/3/86 and I'll listen to the whole Capitol 71 Run.

It's on.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 02/16/2021 - 12:25

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....I'm listening to 12.15.86. Been diving down that '86 rabbit hole recently.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 02/16/2021 - 13:17

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Wonder how often you hear Heads gettin' stoked on '86?

Set 1 from 5/3 is fun.
Set 2 is beginning.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 02/16/2021 - 13:46

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Enough time has passed

3 31 86 should have been on my list earlier

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 02/16/2021 - 15:34

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Not too shabby!
Fun little first, of course 86 short.., good opener for gray cold morning,.second set is pretty good, might go again just cause...Played so loud JGs voice coils seized up, too funny! So far I don’t think I’ve heard a bad show from Boxilla, sure maybe not all killer, but not a bad one so far...
Yeah, diggin the 86, anyone know of any more goodins send em along so I can write em down,
Thanks! I’d say grab another tomorrow before we go down the Capitol hole, but that’s up to y’all, don’t wanna be greedy! ; )

EDIT: add 3/31and 12/15 to list ✔️

I have fond memories of that song deep into the pre-drums set two dogma.. typically filling the Ship of Fools or Sampson segment just before it gets into deep space. There's a Hampton, a Merriweather and an Augusta that come to mind.

Personal to me, but some really fond memories and I still dig this tune.

(edit, I did not make Augusta, still kicking myself in the ass for that one)

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 02/17/2021 - 06:26

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Sounds good DV!
Just got a real gone copy...I’ve had a copy copy, but just today got my hard copy...so it’s a sign!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Wed, 02/17/2021 - 07:28

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50th anniversary tomorrow. So let me throw my lucky Stetson hat in the ring. Tomorrow’s pick , 2/18/71. Will work on some kind of reminiscent writing.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 02/17/2021 - 08:45

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Loud and proud

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 02/17/2021 - 08:48

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As fate would have it, I listened to that recently.

Excellent choice

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 02/17/2021 - 13:52

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Dave's Picks #23! What a high energy show this is. That He's Gone into The Other One. Wow! At almost 40 minutes, I would have been drained at the end of that version, jazzy and spacey.
Fall 72 and this one delivers the whole show minus the encore I believe.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 02/17/2021 - 17:04

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:)))

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 02/17/2021 - 22:15

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Time for you to go back where you belong.

Looking forward to the Multi Track spectacular 2/18/71.

Ready for this too.

I primed my interest with 2/21 last night into shoveling this morning. My second listen since the reissue, and this one popped on many levels - I got much more out of this than the first listen. This will mark my second listen of 2/18 since the reissue. These releases are gems.

Enjoy all.. we heard from Doc regarding this show on the Dave's Picks thread.. bet we hear from Strider on this one.

Cease the day folks.. make the best you can out of 2/18/2021.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 02/18/2021 - 07:30

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Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy, big 50th today, I know Striders Stoked ; )
I am too, stoked for some multi-track grooviness! and a great way to kick off the run!
Boo ya, a real Bobbie Dazzler eh!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 02/18/2021 - 07:47

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I wrote a long piece in pencil before sunrise this morning. I’ve decided to post it on the dead.net page , Grateful Dead 2/18/71 as it will last longer than the American Beauty 50th page and maybe even this pick of the day page. Yes , I’m stoked. Where is Doc@11 ?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 02/18/2021 - 08:34

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Hola Strider.. looking for your 2/18 recap.. Where did you post it? I looked on the 2/18 page and there is a short paragraph starting with someone attempting to rob you outside the show, "give me your money..." A little scary, but hilarious at the same time.

I enjoy the personal GD stories, especially ones that go this far back.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 02/18/2021 - 08:34

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In fact.. looking forward to the write-up so much I had to post it twice.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 02/18/2021 - 08:44

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Ditto Jim!

I'm looking forward to Strider's 2/18/71 Liner Notes to enjoy with these tunes.
I think he's working on them :)
This Dark Star is good to listen to.

Speaking of Dark Stars, Rob Eaton is having a hard year so far.
Charlie Miller mentioned he's dealing with the Covid now.
Send positive Vibes Rob's way.
Here's some info and hoping to help spread the word of his GoFundMe if it hasn't already made the rounds -
https://www.gratefulweb.com/articles/dark-star-orchestras-rob-eaton-lau…

Everybody that listens to this music has a lot to thank Rob for and there's good people here.
Send out that joy and reflect some back at him.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 02/18/2021 - 09:42

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....I clicked that link, but didn't see anything about Covid. Cool site though. I you scroll down, there some neat GD stuff for sale (I'm looking at you Dancing Bear wine bottle stopper).

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 02/18/2021 - 09:51

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Yeah, way cool site, I need to spend more time digging through it.

Just heard about the Covid news this AM, so wanted to bump the GoFundMe.

F Covid!

You are correct sir.. seems to only be one audience copy that circulates. And it's not great, just ok.

I miss NRPS, RIP John/Buddy. They were endlessly touring before Buddy Cage got sick and were easy to catch.. one of those bands you see time after time and it never got old. David Nelson is still around, but he doesn't seem to make it too far out of CA and HI, and that is back when we used to have live music... And the last time I saw them he seemed a big fragile. They guy is authentic, a living legend in my humble opinion. I was just listening to one of their last studio albums a couple days ago while cooking some dinner. Where I Come From.. a really nice album.

Had a great time with this show today.. did 2/21 yesterday and when 2.18 ended I went right back into the first six or seven songs of 2.21 again. Loved it..

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 02/18/2021 - 21:38

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Fantastic show. Sound quality is A+. That Dark Star, Wharf Rat, Dark Star, Me and My Uncle are worth the price of admission. And yes, I said Me and My Uncle.
Looking forward to 2/21/71 soon.

So much great music to explore, we are a lucky bunch....... Okay back to try the..

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 07:42

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Listened to 2/18/71 starting at sunset. Then I started 2/19/71 just before midnight (hour) . With first verse of Loser when the clock struck 12 o’clock (High) 2/19/21 finished complete show. Still up before the sun this morning. Listening to 2/19 a second go-round this morning “I know she’s in the world somewhere” . “ I can’t wait that long to walk around the world “. Wow, the original five or as David Gans said ,”the quintessential quintet”. Smokestack Lightning “ is so smooth and driven, bad and beautiful.”

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Submitted by Tom_Tom on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 08:20

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Well I ordered the Dave's Picks Vol.37 the day it came out !...I HAVE NOT Received it, I contracted Dead.net, Only to get a Auto-Reply indicating they would get back to me with in a few days, Needless to say , It was charged to my Credit Card but I never got my CD, Ive had trouble ordering quite a few times in the Past, And now there is NO WAY to call and speak to a Human Being ! Ive been a Dedicated buyer of almost EVERY Dicks / Dave's picks as well as the Road Trips CDs... I do not order the Yearly Subscription for a few reasons , One of them being the cost, I just cant afford it during these troubled times, I prefer to order CDs when they come out Individually,...Now the CD is SOLD OUT...Why is this happening ?..Is it because of the State I live in ? (New Mexico)...I have no other problems when ordering other Items from other Shippers, I am totally Disgusted with the way things are being done at Dead.net and Ive been thinking maybe its time for me just to move on ....(Please excuse my typing, as my computers keyboard is a bit messed up)...THANK YOU ...TOMAS .

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 08:41

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I realize I bought the killer vinyl versions of From the Vault (1,2,&3) . Virgin vinyl. That’s five Vs.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 09:08

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If you ordered a la carte, give it a few more days.

The days of talking to real people are vanishing. Like, 98% gone. "Go to our website" is the only option given. But remember, "your call is important to us". Lol...

"Artificial Intelligence" and all that shit.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 09:22

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Gonna listen to some Grateful Dead today.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 09:53

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I have found a rare dud

9 30 80 through hes gone is "HEY! WHO NEEDS COFFEE?"

Hopefully things will get livelier.

After blissing out to 12 30 79 last evening, this show is quite a contrast.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 10:03

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...2/19/71 and let me tell ya...I got no chance of losing THIS time!

2/18/71: upon future review, I’m with DOC 11, it’s a good show, but perhaps a tad overhyped...
I used to feel this way in the past, then when I received the 50th multi tracks, I flipped out at how good it sounds, and really dug it, like top shelf where mama hides the cookies, but now I’m a bit more conservative?
Yassss it’s a sexy show with those 5 newbies, and it has that little but First set Dark Star, with a pretty damn good Rat for first time as the meat in the sandwich (damn this 2/19 Cumberlands good for typing!) and I forgot about the Saint Steve’s, but it’s a bit organic overall; their not that tight on some things and the guitars where more outta tune then I recall.
Now before ya wish upon me eternal damnation, I’m just giving it the critical thinking treatment. I still love it, I enjoy it, especially the multi-track goodness, but I already understand why they picked 2/19 over this one for the vault release, and I’m only up to hurts me too...
But now I’m really itching to do this whole run because it really is the coolest way to compare the shows and get the possible underlying adjustments and evolution etc..
Ok, nuff talk,...shut up and turn it up!

Edit: 2/19 Bertha: whoa, easy there Billy! Just a tad different then the previous night lol..

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 10:48

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Check out hes gone

Sleeeeeeeeeepyyyyyy....

The next track is awake. My coffee idea worked!

At least for now...time will tell

Coffee courtesy of DarkStarbucks

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 10:48

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Orobouros - yes 2/19 sounds of a higher order to me than 2/18. More people on stage for the 18th, and neither adding a great deal, it has to be said. Maybe the others felt the same way as Ned and Mickey only played that first night. Once they were down to the original 5 the sound of 1971 crystallized.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 10:54

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First set is a melty dream
Second set has the chandelier thing
All those new tunes throughout
And now Saint Stephen without that horrific splice

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 02/19/2021 - 13:18

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Wow..yeah, imho they sound way more together. The previous nights newbies are improved, listen to Phil on Playing both nights, back to back, and compare; there’s more jams; the bacon is greasier, sheeeooot, the Smokestack is worth the price of admission in itself!
That Smokestack was so good I had to listen a second time!
Now, I may know relatively little of 71 specifics, but to me, that Smokestack is THE sound of the Pre KG GD! If someone asked me to play 1 thing as an example of that time I’d have no problem wiping this out! Bobble Dazzler indeed.

The Cryptical suite was, well, pretty sweet ; ) listened to that again too! Also repeats of 1st Bird Song and Deal. Almost hard to believe these are first timers. Easy Wind...fo-git-bout-it! Pass me the napkins! Nice Dark Hollow to provide some variety, and hey, it’s got a Cumberland!
Yeah, 2/18 is a fine show, but this bad boy hangs where mama hides the cookies!
Looking forward to tomorrow 2/20/71 as I’ve not heard that one before...