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    Hey OB, not off to a good start here in MN, but actually not that surprised. Go Bills!

    There is an interesting article in Relix with Dave L. that was posted last week I believe. Check it out.
    Dave claims there is no list and they don't generally release shows or box sets based on anniversaries. This year's box was just a coincidence. So, what does that mean for 2024? Not sure. Would love to see that October 74 Winterland box released. Who wouldn't?
    I thought the 74 Winterland shows were recorded by Bill Wolf as part of the Movie production agreement with United Artists. I believe everything is there and based on the material from the 2005 soundtrack, and bonus material, it is fantastic.

    Madison Square Garden 87. Those are some good shows Jim. Might have to join you on 9/18 as I have that 30 Trips show handy.

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    Huge and another damn near perfect show with 3 Other Ones! The crowd seems more engaged and yelling a bit more than some of the more polite audiences. And interestingly they didn't understand that the show wasn't over at set break. Read attendee Bob Welle's review in DeadbaseX and his cool viewpoint of having been cruising around EU and just luckily caught this one, wondering who are these new people on stage.
    After all these good ones in a row it's hard to see the almost Barton Hall fervor over this one though. I'm having a tough time doing a top 5 of the first 11 shows they are all so good but this one is certainly in there. Onward indeedy! Didn't expect anyone to join in my insanity to do them all so good on ya' Oro. Had to do it once in a lifetime, lol.
    Cheers

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    I was talking about a mini box of Feb '74 before they released 2/24 (and now 2/23), but I like the way you think.

    I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that there were problems with the recordings of much of the October 74 run. I know Owsley was very vocal that they had excessive bleeding from mic to mic, etc.

    As for something to listen to today.. not that I am strictly a Today in GD History person but 9/18/70, 9/18/74 and 9/18/87 were all excellent shows. 9/16/87 was surprisingly good for the period also.

    That's all I have for now.

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    Ok, back to Europe

    Hit 5/7, 5/10, and 5/11 this WE. Of course I’ve forgotten the finer points and things I wanted to say, but I’ve not wanted to be overly analytical, or get distracted with notes, and instead, just get right, relax, and try to enjoy them. (Which has not been hard ; )
    5/7 is just too much! It’s not always the most precise or perfect of the tour, but that’s because it’s a freight train on steroids!
    I’ve always preferred full steam ahead Dead even when that leads to more worts, not that this one has many, perhaps just a few more noticeable than some of the more reserved, precise (hey, they were trying to make an album) shows.
    Actually, I think the album factor is one reason this tour is so good. They’re in a place where they’re ontop of their game and can let it rip, but keeping it just enough under raps to keep the consistency high for recording purposes.
    Win win, but 5/7 seems more about the live gig, the large miserable crowd that seems to really appreciate the effort etc, more than playing it straight for the tape machine?
    Choo Choo, all aboard! what a beast! Garcia starts out in 5th gear and doesn’t let up for almost 4 hours!
    Dark Star AND an Other One! Full on grease fest with six beauties, including a nice LL that fits the format better than going on too long, and a nice unusual Segway into GDTRFB. Clearly they were enjoying themselves in spite of the conditions? They joke about blowing the big ones, but not this time bubba!
    I’ve had this one so have heard it several times, but it was a real treat to sit outside in a warm but not super hot day and just groove on this one!
    Yesterday I hit 5/10 for the first time and unfortunately didn’t get quite the best listen, at least to the later parts.
    But I did enjoy it, even if it was perhaps a little more laid back than 5/7 etc. Hey they all can’t be rocket ships lol.
    The word that kept coming to me was Smooth…this show seemed smooth. They’re gelling as a unit so well by now, and the consistency is so good. Sure there’s a miscue or clam every once in awhile, (I dare you to find a show that there isn’t ; ) but the overall tightness, energy, musicianship is truly better or on par with any tour they ever did!
    Of course there’s the sweet He’s Gone they finally got right, and why it’s the one! Another Sing me as they’ve worked that one in the repertoire nicely. And if I remember correctly, this had another of those unusual Other Ones, kinda jazzy perhaps and similar to 4/16? Unfortunately this one’s a blur for various reasons including hitting 5/11 afterwards. I’ll definitely want to rehit this, 5/3, and the Wembleys after the tour…but for now I want to go in order…
    Ok, 5/11, this one for whatever reason has always been perhaps my favorite?
    Not saying it’s the best show of the tour, just for whatever reasons perhaps my favorite?
    Certainly the set list is part of it: Nice Playing if not huge opener, plenty o grease, including a cool and final Caution, with final WHO Do You Love tease, Nice Truckin ender to mix it up, and a very cool, perhaps unusual Dark Star!
    Maybe it’s just because I think this might have been the first ala cart show I bought when I hand to the head realized what I was missing not having these Dark Stars? (Now realizing same about the cool spacey TOO’s)
    Other One can get real repetitive but these ones are often very diverse and different! The weirder the better I say!
    Whatever the reasons, this show, even after taking the tour plunge, still resonates very strong for me? Hey, I even think the cover art might be my fav? Ok, maybe I’ll hit it again streaming while working, before moving onto 5/13 and 5/16, both I’ve never heard yet, so hoping I’ll get to spend some extra time with em during the week…
    ONWARD! Ok, who stole my Heineken Dark?

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    That’s all I ment.
    Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
    I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
    Like most things, no easy answers.
    It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
    As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
    And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

    I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
    Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
    Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
    I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
    Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

    Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
    A well, it’s early still…

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    Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
    It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
    Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

    There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
    Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

    Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.

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    I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
    Cheers
    Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.

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    Y’all are missing the point…

    I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
    I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
    Their not going to do this forever!!!
    For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
    With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
    There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
    My plan,
    25 for primal 67-70
    15 for 71
    20 for 72
    20 for 73 (at least!
    ? 74 might just be mostly scraps
    20? for 76? Maybe
    77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
    20 for 78
    20 for 79 and 80
    20 for 81 & 82
    20 for 83 & 84
    20 for 85 & 86
    20 for 87 & 88
    20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
    90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
    20 for 91 & 92
    20 for 93-95
    These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
    Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
    You could still make them “limited”…
    Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

    Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

    And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
    But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
    Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
    Tic toc…

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    Yes, next year hopefully - vinyl too. Bit of leisure wear to listen to it in. Nice.

    Mini boxes score where you might not want 17 shows or whatever. I wouldn't mind a few shows from Europe 1990, having attended the London ones - but I'm not sure I would want the whole lot !

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    Winterland Oct 74 Box, and we need more releases Dave/Rhino

    Hopefully it’s moving into production soon so that we get it for the 50th anniversary next year.
    With all the video included.

    I’ll take mini-Boxes.
    3-show mini-Boxes, released once every other month, and not during a month where a DaP is released. Thus, the DaP’s and mini-Boxes would give us a release 10 months out of the year. The other 2 months would be RSD and Black Friday RSD.
    Sounds like a grate plan to me.

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RE: Jerry rips on people who are calling for "Dawk Staw"

I usually associate that job with Phil.
<squeaky voice> Saint Stephen. Saint Stephen. Play Saint Stephen, man<end voice>.
He can come off pretty harsh sometimes, but mostly with the house lighting crew, maybe.

Oroborous: Nice summary. I've been having a hard time just getting through the 28th and 29th, but that April '71 project sounds well worth the effort. Hearing the interplay of the guitars so clearly on the 28th board really heightens the excitement of Hard to Handle. So much good stuff happening when Tom Contstanten joins at the end. I finally know how to pronounce his name!

Feels like we've been here before, huh?

51st Anniversary of one the all time greats today.

Had a good time listening to this last year, we'll see how it sounds this year ;)

The DaP V38 bonus disc has been in heavy rotation over here.
Hot stuff!
And Strider's pal Jay wrote some great liner notes, so cool to hear stories of the '73 Dead scene.

Hope all yours find you and raise a toast to the epic Evening with the Grateful Dead that happened 51 years ago today!

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NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo

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NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo
The vinyl version updated with new remastering, plantgent process, and includes Cold Rain and Snow

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We did listen to this a year ago. Another rites of spring concert. Good choice, (bears) choice. 5/2/70 is another of the early bootleg cassette favorites.

and

Led Zeppelin IV

LZ: when I am in the mood for LZ, they sound so.fn.good.

9/8/73: I gotta listen again. I thought the Birdsong was from 9/8. Derp.

9/7: still need to hear the PITB.

Okay Proudfoot, I will get this one rolling first thing tomorrow. Thanks for the pick.

My #38 is stuck with the dreaded label created, no shipping for four days. Anyone else experiencing this?

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I couldn't get to it yesterday either.. but a bit of insomnia found me awake way before dawn checking it out. Cole Field House, University of Maryland.. this used to be their basketball stadium but was repurposed in 2015 to a multi-purpose sports and academic complex. This is an interesting show in search of a better recording. I've seen a basketball game or two there when I was a kid, the place did a good job of resonating the cheers and screams of the rowdy and sometimes rabid Terrapins (fear the turtle!). It was a loud venue, probably not the best acoustics.. but... might as well just play it loud.

A strong first set with a nice 17 minute bird song and a pretty smoking deal. The second set had an interesting almost ten minute jam out of Saint of Circumstance. A decent little show but perhaps in search of a better recording.

I have a soundboard of this one, or something labeled as a soundboard but it looks like the archive does not have any boards uploaded.. no bother, a couple of the audience tapes out there sound better anyway. The board has lots of ambient crowd noise pumped in and it and it sounds muddy and flat overall, it's not worth seeking.

Anyway.. it's the only time they played at the University of Maryland (at least that I know of), home of the Terrapins. I bet they would have blown the lid off the tin can of a stadium if they played Terrapin Station. ..what might have been...

Thanks for the memories proudfoot.. I haven't listened to this one in years. I like 1981.

(sigh).. 51 years ago today, four dead in Ohio..

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Handy tip for listening to DaP #38's bonus disc: check to make sure that the Dave's Picks sticker isn't electrostatically stuck to the recorded surface *before* inserting it into the CD player. That is all.

Has it come to an end, or is it just intermission?

I’ll throw out an anniversary listen:
5-4-77

I’m spinning an old CD-R of the show, although I’m pretty sure that I have an upgrade on a HD.

It’s got a Disco Dancing and a S/F…

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..people are just captured by spring weather and getting their yards/houses/hobo boxes ready for spring (I think).

5/4 it is.. funny, I was going to suggest 5/13 or one of the shows from the 77 box v1. It's been a long time since I listened to one of those. 5.4 scratches that itch. I did fit in the 81 show this morning a half day late. A nice little show once you adjust to the recording.

I did a little solo boating and biked my way back to my truck after the run... Gives me a good 2 1/2 hours of uninterrupted show time. I never know what is loaded on my water devices.. I just grab one and go. The one today started with some 75, some 1970 (4/15??) followed by the second set from 5/26/72. 5/26 was perfect for the outing.
I never listen to that show anymore primarily because several cuts are on E72.. but it is a sleeping dragon that wakes up and catches fire sometime in the middle of the jam out of Truckin'. What a sequence after that. It doesn't get much play but when it does and I have time to listen.. it's amazing.

I've been following proudfoot lately, he seems to be inspired.. As soon as someone posts bail for GOGD.. he will back and all will be good with the world..

Speaking of Hobo Boxes... with 38 out of the way (well, for those that have theirs).. the next seaside caffeine overdose video should be of the box set reveal. Since the last box was pulled from returned Betty Boards.. my guess is another batch of multi-tracks not sure what year.

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I enjoyed this show. Decent sounding Wise audience recording. That Bird Song is long and interesting. Give me a Lost Sailor-SOC, Truckin, Black Peter and I am really excited. More or just some 81 would be welcome from Dave.

Pick of the day is not over, some of us have still been loving it. I think the arrival of Dave's #38 is definitely taking up some of the time.

5/4/77 you say Conekid? Sounds good, will have to give it a go tomorrow.

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It ain't over. Just gotta poke around.

I agree. The weather's nice and the time is right for dancin' in the streets. Also I, for one, continue to be in a constant state of catch-up with work since April, and cannot afford to allow myself a trip down the rabbit hole every single day. In fact, even as I type this opus, I should at least be changing strings on my guitar. My listening habits generally tend toward listening to one show for several days while taking it all in... and also not always being able to get all the way through a show in one sitting a lot of times. I'm still finding things like, that Stranger from 4/20/84 to be deceptively interesting, and that was from weeks ago! I mean, I finally got 'round to 4/13 yesterday. I'm hopelessly out of sync.

DLing 5/4/77 as I type. It's the Moore source. A quick check of Deal made me think this was gonna sound nice.

5/4/79 is on deck. Seems like a toss up between Joani Walker ECM-250 and the Glassberg NAK 700s. They both have their merits and deficiencies, and sound completely different, but it's hard to say one is clearly better. I usually don't go for NAK 700 pulls, except for when I do. A/B-ing Mama Tried through Mexicali, I think the edge is going to the Walker source because the kick drums are far better defined... but the catch is that they're almost too much so....tough call... is Bobby playing Lovelight behind Jerry's solo in Mama Tried? Comments on the Archive are saying this was the first show at the Hampton Coliseum. Yeah, the Walker source has much less echo from the hall. It's as close as you're gonna get to a board for this one, I think. Oh, man, Brent sounding sweet on the Candyman harmonies already. Gonna be tough to shut this down until later. Suddenly "on deck" has come up to bat out of order! :P

5/4/72... man, I wish the Europe '72 Complete CD wasn't going for, like, four hundred bucks. The whole box is over a grand. ::shakes head:: Ended up missing the propeller press of Skull and Roses too. Pretty bummed about that, but that's how it goes. Approaching infinite consuming opportunities yet strictly finite resources to do so. I totally get how and why short run limited edition releases are the way to go, though, so can't complain (but sometimes I still do).

Did someone say Led Zeppelin? Don't get me started. IV has the most unusual sonic palette for an album that has sold a gazillion copies. Diggin' on their April 69 stuff at The Fillmore some over the past few weeks. They had a very nasty relationship with Bill Graham, so I normally consider Zeppelin as verboten in Dead circles. They were responsible for really hooking me on music, and introducing me to improvisation, though, so I can't abandon them. Getting into the Dead was in a way an evolution of from Zeppelin for me.

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I think that was the one I was listening to also.. not bad.

New Jerry Band released announced today. '91 MSG.

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after doing the whole April 71 run etc,....well, just needed to free range freak freely for a while;
a few shows from the PNW box, a couple run through of 5/2/70, dis and dat etc.
just got 38 so going to blow my day trying to get down properly and be one with the force....

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5/4/77 Half Step is really hot.

Some great complimentary interaction between Jerry and Keith. Finally got this rolling as I lay me down last night, and didn't make it very far before exhaustion led me into the arms of Morpheus. A bump of the high frequencies might really bring this Jerry Moore pull to life. Everything's there, but just slightly muffled. Stealth recording? Woke up early, so quietly skipped ahead to Brown Eyed Women, and now the funked out, but still mellow 70s, Dancin' in the Street is not really getting me in the mood to double down on some work that's getting away from me, but that's where I'm at.

Estimated to start the second set? Don't mind if I do. I gather there was a period in the 80s when they played this to death, but I wasn't around then, so it remains a favorite for me. Bobby doesn't completely lose it in these late 70s performances, either.

Peeking further ahead at the setlist, wow, they are really playing ALL the epic tunes. Playin' to end the show? WTH?! Looking forward to Comes a Time. That's one of my favorite songs.

Demon Rum! Missed the Harpur College anniversary. That show is like soul food for me. Can't count how many times that Maxell unspooled at home or in the car. In more of an exploratory mode, atm, so stickin' to these 5/4 shows this morning. 5/4/79 gig is great, btw. Passenger with Brent! As the show goes on, the B3 just seems to get louder and louder in the mix. Dan Healy must've been gettin' off on Brent's vibrant performance. I know I was.

TODO:
DL that 3/7/81 now, but I fear we'll be on to something else before I get round to it. Wise source. Check.
Since I didn't get the DaP 38 CD, a lo-fi rendering of 9/8/73 needs to be sorted.

Aren't you supposed to throw away the aluminum foil and eat the little piece of paper inside?

Have I been doing this all wrong.... some things should come with legible instructions.

Love the PITB>Comes a Time>PITB sequence. The whole second set is hot. OroB is taking a palate cleanse, it's up to us to pick some epics..

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Okay Jim, this one is for GOGD.
11/5/79. Also released as part of the Road Trips digital downloads.

Let me know.

Hang loose and feel free to mingle with others.

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For me to pick up the pace. And I’m not talking about the hot sauce. November fifth Nineteen Seventy Nine.

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Full Show Road Trips from 1979, I'm hip.

Although, I can't even look at 11/5 without wanting to hear 11/6.
22 minute Playing In The Band from 1979... That's gonna happen for sure.

That being said.
China > Rider > Cassidy, FOTD to open a show at The Spectrum, that's a big Hot Damn right there.

Good call.

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....seems legit.

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Yes, thanks for hooking me up with this one GOGD, I really dig this show.

If anybody needs a copy, you know where to find me.

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Fuuuuugggggggddddddddeeeeeee (only I didn’t say fudge!)
Yeah, always get distracted by it’s 11/6 neighbor, probably my favorite 79 show (that I wasn’t at).
But because of that boisterous neighbor ole 11/5 doesn’t get the love it deserves, so it’s due....
I’ll have to sneak that in while I try to figure out 38? Not saying anything more on that one until furthur listening...

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CCS->IKYR to open the show.
Nice!

And then a Cassidy.
Nice indeed.

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What an opener. ..they usually wait until they are warmed up for jello like that.

Still, to be honest.. I like it later in the set or into the second. It takes some of us a while to warm up too.. and they often play better later in the show (provided they don't overdue it themselves).

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Such a great example of how good 79 could be. 11/6/79, as you said GOGD, is also right up there.

79, 80 and 81, let's get more out!

Good to see the tractor Jim.

Who has a pick for tomorrow?

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Sweet! Believe that has a good Jack Straw....seemed like they always played an angry Jack there...
Was @ but haven’t heard much so I’m stoked to get reacquainted.
Don’t know what’s available, but I’d stay clear of Auds as that place sounded horrible (like most of those dome stadiums)...

11/5/79: haven’t heard that one for long time. I like it, but don’t think quite hangs with the big boys...
Definitely like 11/6 and 12/1 etc better but so what, still a fine 79!

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I’m playing old CD-R’s, although I probably have a newer copy as a torrent.
I can hear all the instruments. I suspect that this show could be polished up and released. Sure, some people would complain about an 80’s release, but this sounds better than some of the other early 80’s shows that have already been released.

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Speaking of May 7th, it was my first show, 1977 it was, in the old Boston Garden, the night before, ahem, *that* show. We'd been at the local Sears in Bangor, Maine, looking for tickets to Santana in Portland, which turned out to be not available yet. But then we noticed that there were tickets for the Dead in Boston. Woo-hoo, we'll take those instead! Came down the night before from Orono, with a gang of friends -- none of them had been to a Dead show either -- stayed overnight at Wells Beach and hit Boston the next day. With no idea what to expect, we were hanging out at the bathrooms/concessions, when a huge roar went up in the crowd, and my friend's girlfriend grabbed my hand and we raced back to our seats, to the opening bars of Bertha (and speaking of Bertha flubs, though we couldn't hear it there, on the tapes there's a pretty good technical glitch in the beginning of Bertha, leading into some audible onstage mirth). Good times. Last time I saw them was there as well, September of '93. A different world altogether...

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..what a night to pick for a first show.

Any interest in picking a show on the E72 tour for a pick of the day sometime this week? We could toss in a Spring 77 for good measure too.

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Wow! Boston Garden 77 to start the ride. That must have been a wild show for your first. Did you make it to any other shows in 77?

Jim, sounds like a good idea, which shows do you want to do?

I think there are two Spring 77 shows that have not been released, those might be worth a listen.

E72-Yes!

Stay well out there.

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Or Feel Real Guilty.

Phil's bass on opening of Scarlet on 5/8/77 is killer. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about this show?

I kid, because I care.

Nice Pick on 9/24/82 ConeKidd! Rockin' The Carrier Dome.
Really good show all the way through, but that Set 2 is Hot for sure!
Brent opener followed by PITB > Crazy Fingers > PITB > Throwing Stones and it don't stop there.
Good times, I enjoyed that.

jefito 5/7/77 first show! Anymore stories / memories from that night?

And yeah folks, I'm telling ya this 5/8/77 show is really underrated ;)

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I will be doing the anniversary listen tonight, possibly from vinyl, although that requires me to get up from the couch about every 20 minutes. Oh well, I’ll just make the most of it and walk over to the fridge each time and grab a beer. Well, maybe not every time, that would be a lot of beer. Not that I can’t handle that much beer, just that I probably can’t handle vinyl without scratching it after that much beer.

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We are on track. Take a couple days and digest Get Shown the Light?

As for E72.. I was thinking Munich and Lille?

Two slightly off the beaten track shows. My favorite of late is Bickershaw. VGuy got me to take a deep dive a year or so ago and I found stuff in that show I had never noticed before. My favorite Lovelight of the tour and a great segue into GDTRFB, not to mention the other great stuff that came before. Concertgebouw is another off the radar gem. And then there are the monumental shows.. we can save a couple of those for next year.

Anyway.. spending some down time with classics is fun too.

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Works for me. I went back to 5/7/77 while driving today. Hard not to like this show.

Concertgebouw or Paris sounds like a plan. Monday?

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@DeadVikes -- the next show we caught was 5/28/77, in Hartford, officially released as "To Terrapin". That was fun, too. And that was it for '77, except for catching Garcia at the Orpheum in Boston in December. Had to wait until the following November of '78 and the two Boston Music Hall shows before we saw them again.

@Good Ole Grateful: not too much more to relate. We caravanned in to the Garden with several cars, and were doing well until we hit Chinatown (which was pretty sketchy at the time), and the lead car just stopped dead, a passenger door flew open, and one of our entourage flew out and disappeared. We sat, stunned, trying to figure out what had happened. After seemingly a long time (i.e. 5 minutes or so), he reappeared, got back in and we proceeded to the show. Turned out that he had a bad case of Full Bladder Syndrome and couldn't hold it any more. Kids, sheesh.

Basically we were trying to figure out what was going on during the show, since there was not a lot of live stuff that we'd heard by that point, mostly just Live Dead, Europe '72, and Skull & Roses (and Anthem, though we didn't really realize that it was live stuff then), a bit of bootlegged stuff from '76 and the choice Alligator sequence from 4/29/71; what we were seeing wasn't really like that. The Bertha opener was cool, as it opened Skull & Roses, but then it all turned different. We were trying to figure out names for the Terrapin songs, coming up with "The Soldier and the Sailor" and "California on the Burning Shore". The slow tempo of Friend of the Devil threw us. Peggy-O was cool, and stood out. Sampson, I knew from an old Peter, Paul and Mary record that my dad had. Eyes, we knew, and remember liking The Wheel once we finally figured out what it was. Looking back, Drumz was quite short, which is fine by me (not a Drumz/Space fan). I wrote what I could figure out of the set list on the only piece of paper I could find -- my college meal card -- which torqued the meal staff for the rest of the semester.

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That would be grand. Add in either a spring 89 or 90 + the pre slotted '77 and a random other couple shows and we have a week long party.

Any disagrees get first pick of an alternative. We should make a point of celebrating Spring. So many great shows, so little time....

The Right of Spring, dead style.

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@jefito - thanks so much for the great share!
I'll speak for myself, but for somebody that started seeing shows in '86, that was a super fun read, especially the part about trying to figure out what songs were being played.
Hearing Estimated & Terrapin for the first time, is miles apart from hearing the first I Will Take You Home.
Far Out!

So.. any memories about 5/28/77 experience?

Second show vs first show, scene and what you remember?

Great stuff man and thanks again for sharing!

Alright, Jimbo.. call the show bro!
Looks like 5/10/72 anniversary today.
Could be a good listen.

Dug listening to some May '77 this weekend.
That was a pretty good tour, really surprised people don't talk about it more :)

Keep those good time stories coming!

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5/7/77 and 5/28/77, what a way to start and shows in 78! Great memories I am sure.

5/10/72 is on GOGD, and it is a big show.

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1) Pick out a smallish venue with great acoustics
2) Make sure the venue is outfitted with Meyer Sound's best (and loudest) system
3) Hire Candace Brightman for the evening to provide the proper mood lighting
4) Invite the leaders from all the problematic areas - Russia, China, Iran, U.S.A., North Korea, etc. - mandatory attendance. Chemically-induced attitude adjustment optional
6) Select a passage of Grateful Dead music (not too long, say 30 minutes max) for proper face melting - turned up to 11, of course
7) After the hugs and apologies that will inevitably ensue, sit down in a drum circle, hash out the various issues, and promise to be kind to everyone

There. That oughta do it.

My musical selection would be the NFA>GDTRFB>NFA from 11/17/1971 (Albuquerque - DaP 26). That outro going into the second NFA is pure magic, especially as it's improvisational. I can't think of another musical ensemble that would even attempt such a thing, much less be able to pull it off so seamlessly. No way anyone can have dark thoughts or evil intentions after absorbing those 19 minutes of musical bliss.

Your selection?