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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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May 20, 2021 - 12:00pm

#1341

Oroborous

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ABBA!

LOL, yeah when I was little I used to wonder why I got this funny feeling when ever they were on lol.
Think those outfits could be any shorter?
May 20, 2021 - 11:55am

#1342

Oroborous

Joined:
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Buenos Dias Rockeros!

SIXTUS: digging the new sign! Tee it up Bra! FOOOUUUUUURRRRRR! Do they yell that in disc golf?

ESTPRO: yaaaassssss, it seems to be the tapes. Like your synopsis! And it is about the mystery, though it bums me out that such a great show (s) dosent come from a better source : (
FALL 73 Baby!..., now if we could just get: 9/11, and (pick one 12,15 or 17, hey, don’t wanna be greedy!), 10/25, 10/30, and of course 12/18! So Jim and KF, how’s that tunnel coming?

JIM: 17 meters? Which note/string are you referring too E, A, D, or G, as the length will vary accordingly!
What c/c? 😉...the only problem is all the scaffolding. She’s used to all the audio cartons etc, but she’s getting a little wiggly about the scaffolding?

CARLO: dude you crack me up. Think most of us have been there one way or another, Ha! This isn’t the first time you’ve shared a similar fun story with us (fun now, perhaps not then lol) When the going gets weird....
Thanks for sharing!

AJS: Dominator MX 10?....weren’t those what Hasek got into? Heard it didn’t go so well and now he’s selling em outta the trunk of his car?

MR SMITH: harsh is actually a term used frequently in audio lingo. Killer Dead indeed!
Thanks for the cool Mickey link and as always the awesome scans!

PF/TM: yeah, inquiring, drug ravaged, senile, dirty old men wanna know!

DARK-STAR: glad your not hearing “it”; as it would damper your appreciation of such an otherwise stellar release!
Attack, Sustain, and Decay are fundamentals of ALL sounds. Attack you get, sustain is sorta how long the main body of the sound is, and decay is the “trail off”. These can all been different types or times/lengths...many pro audio devices can manipulate these. Garcia’s Mutron Envelope Filter is one example. Good Compressors will have these controls.
So there good very well be some of that, but I think unfortunately, overall it’s just not a very good source...
And yes that is the problem with 2 track tapes, so the mix it what it is, but hey, even a bad Dead tape is usually better then some DIY tinny, noisy, crowd cassette of 80s Hair band LOL. Or as my cousin Eecktar would say “a little bit o sumthin is better than all of nothing!” Really it kinda amazes me how much really good stuff there is considering all the ways that a tape can end up unlistenable!
I actually like the mix for the most part, cept Kieth being too low on occasion and the whole Bob thing?

DREADING: 6/24/73 Big RR Blues. I don’t hear a problem, though when the ride cymbal comes in from 2:13 until 3:08 (right speaker if your wired correct) it is prevalent and at first I thought perhaps he was using a sizzle ride ( the kind with the rivets? Loosely attached to give it a more sizzle sound than a normal ride cymbal), but I think it’s just the way it’s EQd/miced...I can see on certain gear it could sound too prominent...
May 20, 2021 - 11:46am

#1343

proudfoot

Joined:
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Aliced wins

I love my wife dearly, but....oh my goodness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFk6-Mn-8yg
May 20, 2021 - 11:31am

#1344

AliceD

Joined:
September 4, 2007

Two Hot Women Sigers

Maybe ABBA? Those two were sweeties.
May 20, 2021 - 9:47am

#1345

That Mike

Joined:
November 1, 2014

Dish Proudfoot

You piqued my curiosity! I’m thinking maybe Heart, maybe the Bangles…? Inquiring minds wanna know !
May 20, 2021 - 8:30am

#1346

Dark-Star

Joined:
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Oroborous / Uncle Sam

Hi Oroborius, I meant that maybe Jeff Norman used something in the mastering of the tape to restrain any "sharp attacks" that existed on the master (good term BTW, I never heard it used before but I understood what you meant immediately). My understanding is when they recorded these things the night of the show, they were constantly making adjustments to the mix and levels throughout the show, so it's possible the master was a bit hot on places, and Norman tried to compensate? This could account for what you're describing in that one quote that I posted of yours from the other day. I forget exactly what you said but it just made me think that maybe this was the potential cause. Just a guess. I really don't hear what you're talking about, but I keep trying. I do hear some loud symbols now and then like somebody mentioned but nothing that is nearly as noticeable as the bass that was added to the Berkeley show. I don't hear anything abnormal except for the usual stuff and some occasional loud symbols.

Hi Uncle Sam, when you say there should be a better balance of all the people playing in the band and that you hope the people who master these ancient tapes do a better job next time, it makes me think you are not aware of the difference between two track and multi track recordings. Dave's Picks are all two track recordings, which means Jeff Norman (the "masterer") only has two tapes to work with. That means multiple instruments and vocals are recorded to each tape, so there is really no way to turn anyone up or down. The reason Weir and Garcia are the two loud ones on 9/8 is because that's the way the band was recorded the night of the show. With only two tapes with which to master this release, the only thing that can be turned up and down is the left or right speaker, but I don't I think any of us would be happy if they were uneven. It's really the person who recorded the show you have to approach with your comment. With multi track recordings every instrument gets its own reel of tape. If the show was recorded on a multi track recorder then the person who masters the tapes for release CAN make some people playing in the band louder than others. But all Dave's Picks and Dick Picks and Road Picks are all two track recordings so we get what we get as far as levels are concerned. If you want a list of multi track shows PM me and I will send.
May 20, 2021 - 7:58am

#1347

proudfoot

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speaking of two

I happened upon an old video from a certain pop band from the 70s

the two singers are sooooooo hot

- a wistful middle-aged man
May 20, 2021 - 7:53am

#1348

proudfoot

Joined:
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wind in the willows played tea for two

Carlo drank both cups, apparently
May 20, 2021 - 7:37am

#1349

Sixtus_

Joined:
November 8, 2014

re: Carlo & Tea

that's some pretty funny $hit man. Sounds about right and I've definitely had similar warps of space and time.

When are we playing some Hilltop Disc Golf???
Course is open, fully vaxxed, it's time!
Shoot me a PM if there is interest.

Sixtus
May 20, 2021 - 7:28am

#1350

JeffSmith

Joined:
June 9, 2014

Thanks Oroborous

Amazing look at all of the sonic ingredients of the 'stew' that is Dave's 38. With my old ears and modest sound system, even I heard the difference between 9/7 and 9/8 on first listen – thought at the time that 9/8 was 'oddly harsh' (my naive terminology). After reading your methodical and excellent analysis, I better understand why. Makes me more aware of all the miracles I take for granted that allow us to listen to 50-year-old Grateful Dead MUSIC as cleanly as is technically possible. I re-read all the chapters of your 'treatise' (without hearing aids this time 🤪), and have an even greater appreciation for the rabbits our archivist and remastering whiz continue to pull out of their hats multiple times each year. And thanks to everybody for all the great posts Uro inspired!

Looks like Dave's 38 is the exception that proves the rule (and even so it's still 4 CDs of killer Dead!). . . Well done Dave, Jeffrey. And especially well done Oroborous.

And speaking of Mickey's recording prowess, checkout his and Zakir's 'Sound Consciousness: Drones for Sonic Bathing': https://www.onecommune.com/sound-consciousness-mickey-hart-zakir-hussai…

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Kaleidoscope

Sadly I never got to see them live. I don't think they ever made it to Europe but I may be wrong. I did get to see the esteemed Mr. Lindley twice, once with the excellent El Rayo-X at The Venue in London and once at a strange gig with four solo guitarists, namely David Lindley, Richard Thompson, Rory Gallagher and Juan Martin. That was at the Dominion Theatre in London in 1984. It was a weird gig that almost worked.

DP38 at the Isle Of Fehmarn

Got my copy #11488 today, bonus disc comes with sticker.

@simonrob
Also saw David Lindley two times in the 90th - Hamburg and Kiel
and taped both shows. Hamburg with Wally Ingram and Kiel with Hani Naser,
the tape from Kiel is excellent audience.
And I still have 2x C90 tapes from the acoustic concert at the Dominian Theatre in
London with Gallagher, Lindley, Martin ant Thompson.
As fas as I remember it's a lousy recording. Got it in a trade years ago.
Stay safe and healthy
JJ

Bonus Disc Sticker

Perhaps it's the alarmist in me.. but I took my sticker out of the sleeve with the bonus disc and put it in the sleeve with the liner notes. The last thing I want to see in ten years is opening up the bonus disc and noticing that some of the glue degraded and seeped onto the CD.

A pretty harmless precaution.. if I'm wrong, no harm no foul.

#3845 Has Arrived In Canada

Ready to play in the coming days.

I only saw David Lindley one time, I think with Jackson Browne maybe, in the mid-70s, but I remember he was one of these guys - like Larry Campbell - who could play anything with a string on it, and play it amazingly well!

Tripping in 1969

Keithfan - in the sleeve notes for Dicks Picks 26, referring to the Chicago show on 4/26/69, Bear writes that " We generally did psychedelics on Saturday." Sounds like a plan!

MMW

For any MMW fans out there, I found a recent conversation with them taking about their music. I thought this was great. Hopefully these guys get on the road in 2021.

https://creativemusic.org/mmw-cms-may-2021-preview/

Psychedelics & Stickers

Thanks Daverock, very interesting.
That's less often than I assumed lol. I'm going to guess then, it was psychedelics on Saturdays and weed the rest of the days. I simply can't imagine they went up there completely unaltered. I've read that Pigpen wasn't into psychedelics, but (I've heard) a little weed after a drink or two (I've heard) makes for a nice all-over buzz, no paranoia. I wonder if that was his bag.....

I put my Bonus sticker right on the fridge. No harm but definitely a foul. Sometimes I just plain behave like a bachelor first and deal with the aftermath as needed.

Kirwin Perfect

Nappy, I'm so jealous you saw Danny Kirwin and Christine Perfect in San Diego. I am so in awe of both of them. Any memories?

"No harm but definitely a foul"

LOL KeithFan - sounds about right!
(with an honorable mention to Jimbo)

Sixtus

Met Her Accidentally.....

From the original May 1977 Box Set, I went with today's anniversary show, St. Paul, MN. I'm up to Sugaree. I always listened to this one and 5/17 the most from this Box Set. The Scarlet / Fire is probably in my top 5 (as is 5/17). Whole show has a lot of cowbell. The SNL cowbell. But I'm sure Mickey has some literally cowbell in here somewhere. Looking forward to the whole Wharf/ Space / UJB / Brokedown Palace.

Speaking of getting on the road....

....Phish announced their summer/fall tour today!
It's a beautiful day.

5/11/77 St. Paul

That Sugaree's a set closer, right? Listen for the pre-breakout (5/19) China Doll notes from Phil before Wharf Rat.

Fridge

Lot's of stickers and magnets on mine. Sometimes it feels like I never quite graduated from college. Which is fine with me.

Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers

Keithfan-but according to Freewheelin' Frank, "Smoking dope and drinking beer is like pissing in the wind."

funny

@daverock
very funny, pissing in the wind, in France we have a similar saying, "pissing in a violin"; meaning is you won't change any event, like the way the wind blows!!!

Morning Rockers

Doc came, preached The April '71, and then disappeared. Poof - just like that he's gone. I suspect we won't hear musical tales of that magnificence again until October.

Sixtus, good to see you're always out there. Speaking of always out there, Icecrmcnkd hasn't been "as" around as usual. I think he's been sucked into the Bonus Disc vortex.

Daverock, I've been pondering the words of Freewheelin' Frank...I guess he means you don't feel the weed after several drinks. So.... (I've heard) the trick is to have only one or two drinks....which means Pigpen probably only smoked at breakfast :D God bless him, he was one of us.

Jim, I'm on the same page. I feel like I've been in suspended animation since college - not always a bad thing; youthful shenanigans make for a lot of household laughter. I was mildly surprised by the ruckus I caused with the fridge sticker. It's bringing home the sorority girls that usually raises the alarm.

Franks Freewheeling Meaning...

I believe what Frank is trying to teach is not to get drunk THEN get stoned as that can lead to bad things.
So make sure you get good and stoned boys and girls before you start drinking! 😀

NOTE: This service add was paid for by doggies against dumb drunks

3617 in Plano

Arrived yesterday, finished the ripping process this morning.

Has Phil's bass EVER had anymore knobs on it??? A couple more knobs and the strings wouldn't have fit!!!

I like the sticker, thought about sticking it on my work locker, but, wasn't sure if set would "lose" value without the sticker!

Always late to lunch....

Got email from Real Gone today about a Bob Willis collection. Sounded great. If you like the Bob, check it out. Didn't know about volume 1 so had to buy 1 and 2. :-),,,, no rest for my wife's money.

Hey now!....

....David Grisman is doing an AMA on the Grateful Dead subreddit on May 21st which is my birthday as well. Thanks Dawg!

Doc will return shortly

there are a couple of May 71 dates

5/29 "Acid Punch"
5/30

I gotta check out 5/29 again....I recall it being good-n-weird...it IS referred to as Acid Punch, after all

thennnnnnn

6/21/71

7/2
7/31

August........................................

and today's "wtf award" goes to....

RnR Hall of Fame

JayZ is not rock n roll
The GoGo's

THE GOGO'S??????????????????????????????????????

But no Motorhead????????

W
T
F

no X, no Joy Division, no Smiths, no Bad Brains, no NEW YORK FUCKING DOLLS, no Husker Du....

As the Sex Pistols said, the RnR HoF "is a piss stain"

Dandelions

Sheik Yerbones - also, in France a dandelion is known as pissenlit (translation, piss in bed).

Frank...

In Dutch a woodlouse is known as a pissebed.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

Dave's 38 & Bonus Covers

Well, my copy did even more yo-yo-ing around the country than usual this time. Got it yesterday. Listening now, and well worth the wait!!!. . . Here’re links to my corrected scans of Helen Rebecchi Kennedy’s covers – hope some of you still need ‘em. Thanks to Jack Baller, PKB et al who posted art earlier! If you're interested, mine are probably a little higher res and maybe closer color-wise. Check 'em out. And be sure to pass around as needed.

Dave’s 38 & Bonus Covers: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yx2532a3jyvuh3n/AAAJbH8t4zC5bfmZRWC8xfa8a?dl…

All Dave’s & Bonus Covers: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qx5j9ydoc7bzm8z/AAD8yK_vCv_kQ-oLkLJQVCEla?dl…

Onward

Well done Jeff! Thanks again…

Well done Jeff! Thanks again for doing these beautiful covers!

Present and accounted for Keithfan

I’m always lurking.
But with spring weather I’m outside more too, so less time surfing the internets.

Thanks for the scans Jeff.

Dave, your Box Set announcement is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy past due.
Load us up with some more Plangentized/Normanized ABCD scores.

12958 arrives on Vancouver Island

I'm not really keeping track but delivery less than 2 weeks after the shipping notice arrived, has to be a new record for me. I wonder if having Dave living around Victoria has anything to do with faster delivery to the PNW?

I appreciate and like the Go-Gos....

....but Motorhead has like over 40 years of constant playing under their spiked belts.
Shame!

R'nR HOF?

screw 'em...it should've been The Runaways not the Goo Goo Foo Foo Go Go's...anyways...Dennis are you spying on me? Just got my Bob Wills Tiffany Transcriptions Vol 2 in the mail a few days ago...Ahaaa!!! Nitecat, The Mac were one of my top five faves from the Peter Green days and even up to Bob Welch...they played a lot of LA gigs both as headliners and support...sad about Kirwan though...a few times he was incrediblely on fire...others he was too drunk to play or even give a damn which of course led to his being kicked out of the band...The "Kiln House" LP was a fave and Station Man and Tell Me All The Things You Do were always a gas to hear....some day I'll tell you my Jeremy Spencer story...SimonRob glad to hear you saw Lindley at that gig...His El Rayo-X gigs were always a blast...for one great weekend at Laguna Seca in Monterey it was El Rayo-X, Los Lobos & Grateful Dead...some stuff...

Oh and...

Mucho thanks Jeff for the DaP covers...awesome

Dandelions And Woodlouse

might be also seen in the little town of Pissen in Saxony-Anhalt, Germany

wildlife

Anyone ever seen a woodcock in proximity to a pissenlit? I was fortunate to observe a woodcock strutting across the road near a forested area about a year or so back. It's lucky that it didn't get run over by a passing car. Because there's nothing sadder than a smushed woodcock. Have a Grateful Day all :-)

Nappy, spying? Me?

Maybe just a close eye. You always mention these "older" people, I count on hearing about stuff here. Speaking of the older stuff,,,, we have a new kid at the store, worked with her for the first time last night. She told me Nat King Cole is a relative!!! Uncle? Related somehow. I was blown away, I know no one famous, certainly not related.

Bob Wills. Roly Poly

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mhB-P820HP0 I've always liked Bob Wills,

Jeff - Word of the day

Jeff - Thanks for the covers, your timing was propitious! (It was Word of the Day on an elevator screen!). Seriously, I was burning 38 & bonus yesterday, and could not find a good copy of the Bonus cover. Gracias¡

BTK & Roly Poly

I had a girlfriend whose father called her "Crisco". ....... Fat in the Can. Great dad, huh? :-)

More fun species

Titmouse
Bushtit

Ornothologists are twisted....

Interesting little thing

Heard Seastones from 10 19 74 yesterday

First time ever

:)))

A Bushtit and a Titmouse Walk Into A Bar…

The bartender sees them, and says “Hey! I don’t want any chirping out of you two!!”

Covers

Jeff - interesting looking at all those covers of Dave's Picks., thanks for that. But it surprised me how unfamiliar I was with a lot of them. I have got them all ( fingers crossed about Dave's 38), but I wouldn't have known it from looking at that post. In fact I went up to check I had number 12, and I have - 4/11/77, but I've no idea what it's like. There must be quite a few up there, in the post 1974 era, I have only played the once.