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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Heres my newest million $ idea

    A Pink Floyd tribute band that plays punk versions of PF's catalog:

    Punk Floyd

    I call trademark dibs

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    Yessss

  • billy the kiddd
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    The greatest Dead run......

    of all time, 2/27 & 28 /69 & 3/1 & 2 /69 started 54 years ago tommorrow. The Dark Star that all other Dark Stars are measured against.

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    2 26 77

    50 years ago
    2 26 73

  • Vguy72
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    Ok. So Umphries McGee takeaways....

    ....extremely talented and tight AF. Awesome flow within the incredible segues. They stopped playing anything maybe three times the entire show. Jake Cinninger on guitar is Bad. Ass.
    Band very good at giving signals to each other while playing and looked like they were having a great time.
    Light show on point.
    Fans are very nice. Dude next to me said it's his 147th show. He looked maybe 30. Name was Josh. Originally from Oklahoma but now lives in Denver lol.
    I knew a few songs, but could tell when they busted out a treasure by the audience reactions which I can appreciate.
    They are playing Phoenix tonight. If I didn't have to work Monday, I would've went. So there's that.
    Best $64.95 I've spent in awhile.
    The poster sucked though. Hey! Can't win em all!

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    that old saying

    slide into home all used up, no offspring here so it all goes to my niece and nephews, what I don't sell or trade for essentials. If I make it to 80 these old box sets and Dave's might just turn out to be what I've heard call a "music lovers 401K) :)

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    I'm Taking It With Me

    Line my coffin with them, "it's crazy cold way down there".
    In jest of course. I'll likely be cremated. But I did see the throw it out idea happen at my parents' home when that day came. And I was one of the tossers as the sister who got the house is a hoarder. Surprising how little brown furniture went for at the sale. That was nice stuff BITD. But since there were three of us it sort of went by committee and had to be a unanimous toss or donation.
    What few thoughts I have had toward that end is selling it off in chunks as I know my wife doesn't want any of it. Maybe like the desert island question. Which ones will you save 'til the end? Today I'd say the Dick's Picks stay and selected boxes. I've let her know the values so that scenario Dennis mentions won't happen. There's a lot of money sitting there that I'm sure she'll need. And no eBay if I can help it. Is there a thread on here for selling to the faithful? I'll keep you guys informed, LOL.
    Dave's 15 on deck today from the POTDWD thread.
    Cheers

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    Leaving the shit to the kids...

    I always point out to my son the stuff not to give away or throw out,,,, who knows!?

    I have many a friend that does auto collecting. They have the same stories. Two minutes after their dead, the wife/family is throwing everything out and selling off all the cars ASAP. My one buddy talks about boxes of "parts" bought at auctions and flea markets, maybe a dash from a 52 Caddy, maybe a set of valve covers for a 62 Deville, but all this stuff is in boxes and labeled. Into the dumpster!!

    Enjoy it while you're here!

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    We have a winner!

    "I'm a desert rat, not an eskimo." The award goes to Vguy, who seems to be racking up these awards with regularity.

    However, I have a question for topchinacat: what is this "moderation" you speak of?

    And yes to billythekid: a complete Feb '70 FE release, followed by WotF with the Watkins Glen soundcheck, followed by a summer '73 boxed extravaganza.

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    It certainly hasn’t been a typical February in Coachella Valley. But being a transplant from Omaha, a little Cold Rain and Snow is quite nice, all in moderation of course. The new hockey team here in the desert almost feels right on days like today. Salton Sea is a great story... wish I could have seen it in its heyday... and hopefully it will get the attention it needs. Anyway, all this weather ought to produce a super bloom in Anza Borrego this year! ....... tcc

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Never saw Traffic but did see Steve Winwood at Tower theatre in Phila. He spent most of the show behind the keyboards but stepped out to play guitar on Dear Mr Fantasy and blew the house down. Just excellent.

I don't post much and have never done a last 5 so I'll break the seal.

Marcus King - Carolina Confessions
Gary Clark Jr - Black and Blu
Dixie Dregs - Dregs of the Earth
Zappa - Joe's Garage
GD 11-14-73
7-1-78 ( i forgot how good this show is)
Daves 43 and 44

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Saw them at last day of Woodstock 94 along with ABB, Santana, and Jimmy Cliff among others.
Low Spark, Barelycorn good sheet Mon!
Dug Higher love a lot and was glad to see him back in the limelight again, when was that…the eighties?

Saw Dave Mason in a brewpub late eighties. Knew of him but didn’t know him so that was a nice mind melter.
Had forgotten about that until y’all jogged my memory. Fun night, me and four hot chicks!

Bluesbreakers, there’s another blast from the past I haven’t listened to in forever…
Clapton is a great guitarist but seems the more I learn about him, the more he seems like a douche?

Floyd: one of my first albums I bought in the mid seventies was DSOTM. Didn’t have Animals until recently so don’t “know” it, but like it. Never was a huge fan of the Wall. Like some of the cuts and I’m sure it was cool to see it live but thought it was too “pop”, local radio station played it too much etc. Thought it was lame they didn’t do more shows. As a kid HTF was I gonna go to NY or LA?
Early stuff is cool, just don’t know it so well as it seems a bit esoteric to me, but that’s probably because I haven’t put the time in?
Don’t know the newer stuff well either, though do like some of the more spacey and instrumental stuff, like that last album is good drifting and dreaming music.
Welcome to the Machine and Shine on You Crazy Diamond has always been the shit for moi.

It must now officially be hockey season as VGUY is representing again!

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Hi All! So I definitely have not logged as many concert hours as most of of you. Part of that is that along with getting on the bus at the 11th hour, I was also late bloomer when it came to seeing live shows in general. Yet in 1994 I saw Pink Floyd and Traffic who opened for Grateful Dead's summer tour. For Traffic they were opening at my first ever Dead show, so I will admit I didn't focus on them much and don't recall too much. I vaguely remember them jamming on Dr. Mr Fantasy. Several years later I had a now long lost buddy who was very much into Traffic as his #1 band. That really turned my attention to their music and I have managed to pick up all of their live releases (there are not that many). There is an unofficial release from a Santa Monica show in 1972 on CD and DVD. The whole show is on YouTube and if you haven't seen it is worth checking out. Traffic was short lived but they were a very talented band.

A quick note on Pink Floyd - it was nice to seem then even if it was sans Roger Waters. I have also seen Roger Waters solo act.

Anyway, I will always look back to 1994 very fondly as I got to see my first Dead show but these other 2 bands as well. Not too shabby for what it was back then.

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Found a stash of factory recorded tapes and I have no clue where they came from. Maybe somebody gave them away after tapes died. Started with a Yardbirds compilation, then on to Celtic Cross - Richard Searles which couldn't be more suited to today's holiday. (A journey into the heart of the Gaels) But I need some help with two of these others, maybe our Continental and UK posters can tell me what I have here.
1) BAP - can't even read it, looks German (vun driune noh drusse)?
2) Silly Wizard - A Glint of Silver
And the rest I can figure out but why do I have Sergio Mendez, The Pointer Sisters, Men At Work, and a radio recording of W.C. Fields - The Day I Drank a Glass of Water?
Some of the rest of the stash is my oldest teenage tapes that I played in the '68 Bug on an under-the-dash mounted deck with one of those slide out brackets 'cause you know they want that crappy deck so you better take it inside at night. But the SCORE is about a dozen of the finest jazz recordings I have from the likes of Stanley Clark, Return To Forever, Mahavishnu Orch., Freddie Hubbard, Eric Weber, Gary Burton, John Abercrombie, Jack DeJohnette, and two I don't even remember recording: Luis Gasca with Carlos Santana, Joe Henderson, Lenny White, Stanley Clarke, and others. And Clive Stevens with J. Abercrombie, Ralph Towner, Steve Kahn, and Billy Cobham. Wow! A who's who of jazz mostly from the ECM record label. So all of those would have to be from pre-1979 when I had a roomy with a lot of jazz. Looks like I'll be busy for a while. Another benefit of having senior memory loss. (like where did I put all those tapes I used to have)
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Chuck - you don't have to be an expert guitar player to recognise expertise in others. In fact, sometimes, if you play yourself it can get in the way. I once knew a man who played guitar, who didn't like Muddy Waters because some of his songs only had one chord in them

I have just been watching the "Nothing But The Blues" film of Eric Clapton playing in 1995. A tour de force of electric blues - my favourite post 1960's music by him. Incredible - if you saw him play around this time you are a lucky man.

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That BAP album came out in ‘83 and is apparently one of the best selling “German”
rock albums ever. Who knew??
Silly Wizard was a Scottish “folk” band that played ‘70’s’-mid ‘80’s.
Looks like you found a neat stash!!

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Well at least it's German rock! LOL
Celtic Cross was great mellow acoustic.
Wrong country for today but I'll try the Scottish one next.
Cheers

DR and Chuck, saw Clapton in '85, '87, '88, and (no stub) somewhere in the 1990-95 era (PHX) when he had a buzz cut and he and the whole band were in white t-shirts and workwear right down to the yellow Timberland style boots. Not his usual dapper attire. He once said if he weren't a musician he would have wanted to be a fashion designer. Always well dressed. Eric - " Some of these guys show up in track suits. I mean what's it all about?" talking about his respect for some of the blues greats who wore nice suits as most professional performers did BITD. I would have to say he was better every time I saw him. He has said he regrets not doing more with Steve Winwood and bailing out on Blind Faith. So maybe not what some think Oro. We've all made choices and he certainly has helped some folks with his treatment center for addiction which most of his earnings from the Crossroads Festivals have supported.

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Daverock I remember seeing Clapton right after Jerry Passed away in 1995 in New York and it was an Amazing show. Clapton was my First concert in 1968 Cream in Philadelphia. The next year Blind Faith also in Philly, I saw Traffic in New Your in 1971 or 72 and them the Amazing Clapton/Winwood show around 2008?? also in New York. And somone said that he seemed like a Douche, He does have some strange beliefs but I try not to let people's personal life affect me enjoying their talent of playing music

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Low Spark and John Barleycorn were key pieces of vinyl back in the day (nowadays I listen to the CDs but still have the vinyl), but back then right along with those lps for myselfandfriends was a, now long gone, "greatest hits" called Heavy Traffic, bought it as a cut out, that had cool tripped out cover art of shiny reflective flying saucers flying and slicing through a bunch of saguaro cacti. Released in '75 (and still have that one also, very dogeared - Side 1: Dear Mr Fantasy/40 Thousand Headman/Smiling Phases/Shanghai Noodle Factory/Paper Sun. Side 2: Feelin' Alright/Heaven is in Your Mind/Medicated Goo/Coloured Rain/Empty Pages.) Another cool and somewhat obscure piece of Winwood discography from that time was Go (group was led by Stomu Yamashta). Never lucked into Traffic as an opener, haven't seen Steve, but did catch Spencer Davis as a special guest at The Forum (edit -12/10/89 not 12/11). I'm A Man set closer was killer.

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Bluecrow with another forgotten gem in my LPs. (double LP)
GO with Winwood, Al Di Meola, Stomu Yamashta, and others.
The Japanese music scene is cool. Is it our poster Frank Parry who lives there now?
GO is up on the turntable next. (when she who must be obeyed goes shopping)
Thanks everyone and cheers!

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Pink Floyd-When they came out I bought Obscured by clouds, Meddle, Ummagumma, then Atom Heart Mother, a real heavy one, then DSOTM, played that over and over, Wish you were here was the last album I really liked. I did like the guitar work on Comfortably Numb.

Saw them first at the Cow Palace in '75, they first played new songs from WYWH, we guessed wrongly at the names. Second set was entire DSOTM, with the Echoes encore, awesome show!

I was impressed with their sound system. I thought they ranked up with the Dead in quality of sound that night in the big barn with it's atrocious acoustics. In my mind the Dead and Pink were the two bands that put their money in a quality sound system at the time.

I recorded that show on a little stereo sony cassette one mic system I had borrowed from my friend, and was so impressed with the results I decided to buy a recorder myself for future shows- the beginning of my stealth concert recording days.

Saw them at the Oakland Coliseum in '77 when they were flying giant pig balloons over the crowd, another great show.

Back in the days of standing in line for tickets, toward the end of those days before a lottery for tickets ruined the ability of hard core fans to do the time in line the night before tickets went on sale, we did that very thing, taking turns over night, and scored six seats in the sixth row center at the Oakland Stadium for the No Roger Pink. Great show, taped that too.

Only time I saw Traffic was at Winterland in 1978. Winwood was so impressive jumping back and forth between keys and guitar and singing so well- great voice. His band was at Outside Lands Festival in GG Park one year, saw him there. Saw him two years ago at the Fox Theater in Oakland, he still had it. For those of you interested in diving deeper in to Traffic, those "original album' repacks offer five of their original albums in a small box for a very reasonable price.

Last Five

GOGD 10 /11, 12/ 1983 MSG These are my favorite shows in the new box- very well recorded and strong shows. I've decided to go back to the other four shows for a second listen.

GOGD 1/1970 "Live in San Diego 1970) bootleg. Originally an FM broadcast. Not bad sound.

Gene Clark - Gene Clark. Got pretty good reviews, but I was underwhelmed. Will need to listen again.

Crosby-Nash - Another Stoney Evening. I picked this up after it was mentioned on this forum several times. Thanks, guys, really sweet sounds from these two.

Steve Miller Band - Brave New World. Early Steve 'guitar' Miller, my favorite time. Nicky Hopkins plays beautiful keys on 'Kow Kow', and surprisingly Paul McCartney sneaks in to play drums ( under the false name of Paul Ramon for the sake of record restrictions) on one of my favorite rockers, "My Dark Hour".

Fleetwood Mac - Blues Jam in Chicago v2. Another nice opportunity to hear Peter Green and Danny Kerwan sing and play with these blues greats. I need to get v1.

Neil Young and the Stray Gators - Tascaloosa. A live recording made right after the same band was recording "Harvest" in Neil's Barn. "Harvest Time" the fine documentary released in Theaters last year documents the goings on at the Barn.

Music IS the best.

Best to all of you, nitecat.

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3/17/67, Winter land , has a version of the Golden Road gotta release this show, 3/17/68, Carousel Ballroom Ballroom, looks cool, 3/17/70 Buffalo, a definite release. C'mon , Dave lets get that music out there.

couldn't make me change my mind . . . .

1stshow Along with GO, also Raindog by Stomu Yamashta from year before (pre-Winwood)

12/89 Forum shows were good 'uns VGuy! And the Ultramatrixes available are excellent. And by the way, your comment about the Knights vs. Blackhawks a few weeks ago had me tune in that night to 'Hawks radio (WGN) for first time in awhile and I've caught almost every game since and its been a fun run to hear. Took down the Bruins a few nights ago, and last night the Preds.

Not a deep knowledge FloydHead, but a couple of David Gilmour releases that I really really dig post-Floyd are the Live in Concert video from Royal Festival Hall 2002 and Live in Gdansk. Both awesome and beautiful.

AnotherStoneyEvening - (emphatic) yes

And from the Aquarium Drunkard site - his take and select cuts from an obscure Wayne Shorter album - Moto Grosso Feio (he had lynked the title track and Iska). Reallyreallyreally fine wine.

Phil encored with a rollicking Whiskey in the Jar tonight.. quite the nod to St. Patty's day and a reminder that this music is still evolving and taking form.. don't underestimate Phil's contribution, his bands are carrying as bright a torch as any.. and he just turned 83. Holy cow. oh.. and they played one of the better Viola Lee's > GDTRFB just prior to the encore. I have a soft spot in my mind for Viola Lee Blues.. a psychedelic anthem if ever there was one.

..and Proudfoot.. a proud Terrapin here. Doubt if they can topple Alabama, but they kicked the shit out of Perdue a couple weeks ago, so who knows. Beware the turtle.. My only Terrapin regret is that they did not play Terrapin Station the only time they played at my alma mater, Cole Field House 3/7/81. A good show, but the recordings and the acoustics at the venue pretty much sucked ass.. this one will never get released.. The MSG show two days later kicks solid ass.

That's all I have.. happy St. Patricks Day.. the holiday that embraces good luck so play a Terrain Station and you will surely have good luck. Promise.

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as I listen to 3/20/70 VLB. Cool.

A tasty little show with two noticeable irritants

Good Lovin' > Drums > NFA > Drums > Good Lovin' contains virtually NO jamming. Believe it or not.

The other irritant I'll just let go.

Chuck - it goes without saying that seeing Cream in 1968 is the stuff of legend. That 4 cd box of the October/November 1968 shows that came out a few years ago is amazing. I was hoping a similar one would come out from the March 1968 shows, some of which featured on "Wheels Of Fire" and the ancient "Live Volume 1." But there doesn't seem any sign of it yet.

I notice you also saw him in 1995, around the time of "From The Cradle" and the "Nothing But The Blues" shows. Another peak in his career.

I only saw Eric Clapton once - in 2009. It wasn't a great time - around then my father died - we all know what bereavement is like. I was sitting up in the balcony at The Royal Albert Hall a fair way from the stage. It was good, but I wasn't really in the right head space - or seat space come to that - to really enjoy it.

I missed him by a hair's breadth in 2019. Before he joined The Yardbirds, he used to busk around London with Dave Brock, who went on to form Hawkwind. In 2019, he joined Hawkwind on stage for one number - and stayed on for a total of 8 songs ! And naturally enough, I was there. The following night.

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Am way behind on posts and catching up will have to wait, but scanning through, loving the music topics, Floyd, Traffic, Clapton, esp his early days were all mandatory music for me back in the day... thought I would note that there is a simple exquisite solo acoustic rendering by Winwood of Can't Find My Way Home on the utu be, sitting by a fireplace.

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Cases of spinal damage from regular use.
Inactivates B-12 then destroys nerve cells in the spine.
Tingling, numbness, can't walk, weakness, balance issues.
Rise of larger cannisters aimed at rec. users and legal.
A Dr. said he is seeing cases every week now.
Said he used to see a cocaine stroke maybe every few years.
Let's be careful out there.

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Like a bagful of vanilla creams from See's

Sounds as though I would be better sticking with glue. Sticking with glue....get it? Alright, please yourselves.

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....they're painting the town brown!
BTW, a new record would be nice. It's been 16 years. C'mon man.
I've done my fair share of nitrous back in the day. Overrated and a waste of $.

I rarely post but do read posts, mostly the DP45 posts, and there are quite a few posts on what would be a preferable release, whether it be the box set, DPs, or special editions like the 50th stuff. What got me thinking is I just got, believe it or not, the the 3-10-81 show from In And Out Of The Garden. I had gotten two 3-9-81 shows in the box I got for Christmas from my wife and just got the replacement a couple of days ago. It took awhile but I got it so no worries there. I loaded it on my phone and listened to it. Not a bad show, not a great show and listening to it without the excitement or adrenaline rush I get whenever I get a new release, it was enjoyable but not really memorable or one I would listen to again soon, as were all the other shows in this box, and one of my judging criteria of the shows is if I want to listen again right away or very soon thereafter, that's a really good show to me. I know there are many factors that go into a release and sales are the bottom line obviously but maybe a simplified thought process is what's needed. A great/very good show or run of shows period. No special frills or big boxes. I have every box set released including Fillmore 69 and who has room for any more box sets. Maybe a return to the simpler boxes like The Fillmore or even another download series. Even the DP releases. I don't know if Dave is the one and only person who decides on what's released or if there is some kind of committee and I know that everyone tastes/likes are different but for the most part I think most Deadheads can agree on what is a really hot show. Not one that has a good story behind it or that is more marketable than others but just a really good show. Maybe even some kind of voting that can be done on dead.net from a list of releasable shows from the vault. The move definitely is going to vinyl. I don't do vinyl and do most of my listening either in my truck or on headphones working around the house or in the yard so it just doesn't work for me. I just have an insatiable appetite for really good shows and personally haven't heard a new one for awhile. Maybe that's why the releases are not selling as well lately. Who knows. I'll keep buying whatever is released but I/ we're due for a plain old hot show release.
Sorry for my rambling!

Peteh - that's a good idea about having a vote on what would make good further releases. Makes more sense than having a few people guess what the punters want on the basis of past sales or whatever. I'm definitely in favour of obscure great shows rather than well known average ones, too.
I have always assumed that there is a committee that picks the Dave's releases, and that he is the spokesman for this committee.

DaP 42 +bonus and DaP 43 seemed pretty hot to me.
I think that DaP 46 +bonus might be pretty good too.

That’s within about a 12-month span.
Seems that the committee has been delivering good pre-hiatus shows on a fairly regular basis, while also delivering post-hiatus shows which many people also want.

If Dave isn’t releasing what you want when you want it, stream it from the archive or get it from the torrents. If it’s not available by those methods then you’ll just have to wait for Dave to release it. It’s not even that hard, Doc often offers up shows, you just have to PM him and ask.

Yesterday I listened to
GD 1971-12-15 149966.sbd.mr.miller (recorded by Ramrod).
That was pretty good, especially the Dark Star. Listened to the Dark Star twice in fact.
I think that when 12-14-71 was released some people complained that Dave didn’t choose 12-15 instead. If/when Dave releases 12-15-71 I can imagine that someone will complain about back-to-back shows with Run Rudolph Run having been released.

Now finishing
GD 1976-07-13 152150.miller

And over the last week or so listened to
GD 1976-07-12 150658.cm.cass.miller (with sound check)
GD 1976-07-18 pre-FM.remaster.miller

The Let It Grows from 7-13 and 7-18 were interesting, seemed different than the ones from June 76 although I haven't done a comparison.

I’ll throw out shows to vote on, 12-18-73 paired with a new issue of 12-19-73, both Plangentized/Normanized.
Could even put them in a 1973 50th anniversary Box containing shows from Nov/Dec since the 73 shows with ABB will have to come out in a separate ABB-approved Box.

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Hey Icecrmcnkd I get what you're saying. I think my biggest problem is that I have so many shows I don't know what to pick anymore and can't always remember the hot shows( it sucks getting old!) and use the new releases to whet my appetite. The other problem is I don't know what I want, I was never a tape trader and most of what I listen to are releases or bootlegs so I'm not sure of what's out there. There is also an app called Attics that has I believe almost every show and multiple versions like Archive. I should really start digging into that. I think it still would be pretty cool to do at least one voted on DP though.

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That would be cool to vote on one!
It would create a lot of interest even if your choice wasn't picked.
I'm guessing Dave L. does most of the work but has influencers.
Committee sounds a bit formal for this bunch.
I need a 8-30,31-1978 Red Rocks four disc release if I'm going to vote.
Cheers

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Saw Phil last night in Port Chester and as always put on a GRATE show! At 83 How he can stand up for three hours and play with the younger members of his band is Amazing If you have a chance to see him Do so, Father time is watching too Thank you CODY

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Being old school, I find having it in front of me helps to both explore new territory and to document where we’ve been etc. For me, that’s Deadbase 10. I have 50, but I only use that to correct or fill in gaps.
I write In 10 to highlight and document shows: at, released, and listened to, and it’s easy to check out set lists etc, which I find interesting and helpful. From there you can check out possible ideas, then use comments on archive etc, and that sometimes will give the the hell yeah vibe your looking for! Of course Like anything on the internet involving opinions, use caution, but sometimes you’ll find a show with a lot of reviews, and all highly favorable. Not a guarantee that you’ll like it, but a good way to start.
Sometimes you can find gold by picking unreleased shows from an overall hot tour, or if several hot shows from a run or two have been released, then sometimes the one they didn’t go with is good too. I.e., 3/30/88 that we did on POTDWD. Nice show perhaps overlooked by it’s released neighbors. Or 71 Caps…or…
This is why some of us like POTDWD as we try to find good shows that we haven’t heard before, which kinda sounds to me like what your looking for?
Really, it just comes down to putting in the work and actually listening to shows, especially ones not on the radar, and learning what you like.

As far as voting. Nice idea but I think there’d be potential for huge sample bias. No offense to anyone, but I think the active demographic here on dnet is pretty biased in what they like comparatively, which is fine.
Perhaps the lurkers prefer a more comprehensive view, but being lurkers, we don’t know lol.

Perhaps they could do a survey using subscribers since we’re probably the ones most invested in all this. You might suffer sample bias via subscribers who only purchase to resell, but, they are subscribers, and you wouldn’t think they’d encompass a high percentage of the sample, but who knows? I often wonder how many subs are resellers?

Anyhoo, just ment to say I find documentation to be key, good luck!

Fri Yeah
3/15/69
3/24/91
Laughing Bones mid oughts
Jimmy Buffet- Songs You Know By Heart
Lover boy- Classics
The Cure- Greatest Hits
Warren Zevon- Excitable Boy
Peter Gabriel- Us
Pink Floyd- The Endless River

SATURDAY
3/17/67
Pink Floyd- The Endless River
Mickey Hart- Planet Drum
Sun Ra and his Arkestra- Greatest Hits Easy Listening for Intergalactic Travel
Kieth Jarret- Koln Concert
Herbie Hancock- Maiden Voyage
Oscar Peterson Trio- Night Train
Wynton Marsalis- Standard Time Vol 2

Many influenced from recent conversations here!
ONWARD

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Did voices on Joni Mitchell's cover of Twisted from Court and Spark?
The one I thought was called My Analyst Told Me.
Never knew that was them. "Chick is twisted, boop shoobie, man."
All-stars all over that 1974 release.
Robbie Robertson guitar on Raised on Robbery.
"A little money ridin' on the Maple Leafs. Along comes a lady in lacy sleeves."
Cheers

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LOL…what..?..too soon?

Gulp, embarrassed to admit, I have no Joni.
Just was reading about Asylum years reissue and realized I have none.
Ok sports fans, if you could only pick one or two….?

Great Idea Oro! I have a Deadbase around the basement somewhere. Should have been doing it years ago!!! Yeah picking shows is just so subjective. I also find my mood, mellow, antsy, stressed, for whatever reason changes my liking of different shows at different times. Thanks for the help!

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I’m up for a new series where Dave lists 5 shows to choose from, 1 each from 5 periods:
65-71
72-75
76-Feb 79
Brent era
Vince era

You can cast a single vote after you have paid for your pre-order and there are no refunds if you don’t like the show that gets the highest votes.

Considering that PNW Box and STL Box didn’t sell out right away, pre-hiatus years may not always get the highest votes.

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I don't like the idea of only allowing subscribers to vote about future releases, if such a thing came to pass. I have been buying live releases by The Dead since 1975 - all the stand alone releases, all the Dicks Picks, all the Road Trips, all the box sets and all the Dave's picks up to around 2020. Then I decided there were some shows from some years I didn't want. I went off the idea of paying for shows before knowing what they were. So I stopped subscribing. This surely shouldn't bar me from having a say about future releases. To say such as me isn't as invested in Dead releases as someone who subscribes is absurd.
Also, obviously, different people like listening to The Dead in different formats. L.P.s and cds are great for me - but I am not interested in downloads. With some it may be the other way round. It should be a good thing that there are these different formats that cater to differing tastes. I don't think it's wise to assume everyone enjoys listening to the band the same way you do.

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...Isn't the brightest bulb, nor is that invisible hand so smart. For instance, 3/1/69, one of the premier primal Dead shows is available on vinyl for just $59.99 a year after its release online and in person at Newbury Comics. They also had 4/7-8/72 vinyl sets for $125-135. Just happened to poke around. Too bad the glut in the marketplace for Dead items didn't happen a few years ago, but now that it's here, there are more reasonable prices to be had on vinyl releases one may have missed.

I agree Daverock. Everyone should be allowed to vote. It should just be an open vote on the dead.net. Even if Dave gave us a choice of say 5 or 10 that are releasable quality I think that would be great.

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A must-listen

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Take a deep breath lol.
I knew you DR were going to say that.
My point is only votes are useless if you can’t control the sample properly.
So if you say everyone at dnet can vote, how will you know that say BTK hasn’t voted 467 times for 1970 etc.
AND, how many people who buy many of the releases, but don’t ever come hang here would not get represented.
That’s all I was trying to suggest: if your going to have releases based on votes, then how do you ensure proper sampling? Sorry I didn’t offer a more comprehensive idea, was only trying to show how it might not work. Certainly didn’t mean to exclude or rile anyone up ffs.

EDIT: Petah, set and setting for sure! That’s why my preference is all the years because “some times you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t” variety is the spice of life etc. So I’m the same way: different eras for different needs, like choosing different albums to listen to by the same band.

UPON FURTHER REVIEW: perhaps they use All the mail addresses?
I believe you have to use an email address to make online purchase?
If so, then send non manipulative, use by addressee only email?
That way anyone who’s purchased anything in (imagine you could adjust variable) say the last five years from deadnet would get a vote. Yes the resellers probably have duplicate addresses but again, would they really skew things that much? You’d think resellers would be down with whatever is going to sell?
It would be nice if we got to have input, I unfortunately don’t see it happening.

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46 years ago tonight I was up in the balcony at Winter land for another fun night with the Good old Grateful Dead. A 3 show run that will probably be released one day.

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Yup. Thanks again for the heads up on that one to whoever made the original post. I purchased it a few weeks ago for a little more than half of what they are asking for 5/8/77. No brainer. It arrived yesterday.

Go Leafs. No, it is not too early.

I cast my one and only vote for 9/19/70 and will continue to do so until it is released.

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9/19/70

My vote/ prediction for 2023 boxset:
El Monte December 1970

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Yes, I would vote for that one too. Voting closed...when can we expect it?

3/1/69 is so good I am thinking of getting it again - seriously. While it's still available. I am also starting to get tempted to buy Dicks Picks 33 on vinyl, even though it is extortionate. But it is two shows - and the first 10/9/76 is my favourite of the year...this is how it starts.

Today is "International Happiness Day" apparently. " Be Mindful. Be Grateful. Be Kind." are the watch words. I'm not sure when "International Day of Being a Complete Bastard" is. Every other day of the year, maybe.

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