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    Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
     
    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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    Okay, I've done the unthinkable...

    I listened to parts of the latest seaside chat. Dave should be in espionage or something, because he never reveals anything! Chats about the setlist on 46 etc. But, he did say that the bonus disc is pulled from 9-3-72 and 9-19-72, which we knew -- but because both shows have "issues," they're delivering some of what was "salvageable." Recall that the bonus disc must be all original material for tax and royalty purposes, so review the jams on those nights...

    Dave also said (am I being compensated for hazardous duty??) that No. 47 is "in the can" and they've started work on No. 48. As usual, all he said on this year's box set is "great things" are happening. Give us a ton of Summer '73 please, along with the Watkins Glen soundcheck with the reissue of WotF...

    Okay, took one for the team. Ya gotta love Dave, but as he never reveals anything, the seaside chats have become "extremely optional," if you catch my drift. On the other hand, the OSF is ready to spill on its next release when the last Dead & Co. tour begins. (I gotta believe that Billy K has banked a few odd millions over the past few years (he owes Bobby big time for a late-life job!) and wants to spend it while he's able to enjoy it.)

    Ciao!

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    Gorge Disc 5....

    ....is where it's at.

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    I meant to tell you that I was kindly “gifted” a copy of Gorge ‘98 by the group (NAME REDACTED), and it’s first rate! I ordered the two albums you suggested, as well by (NAME REDACTED), so they will be in my rotation in the coming days. Thanks for the good word, and congrats on the VGK - the Jets are a pretty pesky group, so well done. Hopefully, we see you guys in the Final.

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    No mention of the artist John Vogyl. Amazing artist and have a few of his posters. Check him out.

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    Billy and the Strings....

    ....I'm going to see him May 24th. #4 for me. You'll have a good time AJS.
    Go Knights Go!!
    My Avs lovin cousin has been awfully quiet lately. Steve!!! You ok?

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    I think at age 76, Bill K has certainly earned the right to gear down a bit, maybe play music more pleasing to him now, and stepping away from D & Co. One of the most enduring rhythm sections in “rock” has always been anchored by Bill, so he has earned his legacy. Happy sailing Bill!

    As for Billy Strings, a great choice. Talk about a guy who was a prodigy as a kid (like Chris Thile, Derek Trucks), and has amazing chops. Should be a decent show, Jack. Speaking of Chris Thile, I was planning to see Nickel Creek on their summer tour for a dose of bluegrass, but moving has put a pause on shows for a bit.

    Paging the AVs. Paging AVs. Where are you AVs?

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    Rhino releasing a Mingus collection. I may only get the cd version. Waiting for word on this years big dead box,,,,, oh and tubes.

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    Congrats on your boys being the first to move on. Well done.

    You are correct about the Devils. They looked like they were going to be swept, and now they are in command. Nice.

    I just grabbed some tickets to go see Billy of the Strings on his next tour. Thanks to all of you who recommended seeing him.

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    Hi everybody, long time, no see, good topics here, as always. I don't watch hockey, or follow hockey, but if you all want to talk about hockey, or anything for that matter, it's ok with me.
    Billy, we all know why you are really leaving Dead and co. it must be really hard for him to play those classic dead tunes so sloooooow. I also hear that Bobby has turned into a real task master, telling everyone how and what to play, and if you have seen any of those Wolf bros shows, you know how slow he likes to play dead songs now. Acoustic dark star? really?
    No talk at all about the bonus disc? any one got any idea what's on the bonus disc? just curious as it's only one disc so if they are going to bastardize the other two shows, I hope they release the jams. Sure don't want a bonus disc full of first set songs.
    a track list would be cool.

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    The first time I saw Dr Feelgood was when they supported Hawkwind live, I think at the tail end of 1974. They were so different from the freak ambience of the times that they seemed almost futuristic. The same with The Sex Pistols in 1976. I still enjoy looking at the odd video clip of those two bands - but overall, neither pub or (British) punk rock has lasted well with me. I like rock n' roll and blues from all decades - the great music of the1950's still sounds spectacular - but the music that has lasted least well with me is the Brit punk/pub rock of the mid-late 70's.

    On the Dead front, 5/7/77 vinyl from RSD shipped yesterday - you surely don't think I queue up for these things - and Gong Live In Lyon 1972 arrived yesterday. That one is a wild, anarchic ride - acid rock with the "rock" bit taken out. If you like hockey you will love this. Maybe.

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Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
 
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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Finally got around to reading the liner notes to DaP 46, wanting to see what was up with the 'negative review' that people have mentioned. I kind of like that it's in there, even though the guy makes an ass of himself, complaining that the Dead didn't play the "boogie music" he expected. It's always good to be reminded that a lot of stuff that's now considered classic and beyond criticism was not well received or even remotely understood by audiences and critics at the time it was made.

Want a good laugh? Go back and read the scathing reviews of concerts Beethoven gave during his lifetime. There are similarly clueless reviews of Stravinsky, Coltrane, the Beatles, you name it. In every case, people came to the concert expecting something familiar, and instead heard something they had never heard before, and weren't ready for. But nobody remembers those critics anymore (what was this guy's name? Steve Bozobo? wonder what happened to him?) and the music lives on.

Anybody manage to grab a copy of the DiP 1 vinyl that was on sale for about two minutes this morning from Real Gone? It evidently sold out in about an hour, and I missed out. Normally, I wouldn't have been that interested, because (as some might recall) I try to stick to my "no double dipping" rule and don't buy vinyl if I already have a perfectly good sounding CD of the music. But in this case, the vinyl supposedly restores some material that was edited out of the CD issue. So I'm really kind of bummed I missed it. Hope some of yall grabbed and can tell us what the restored material is like.

Last five, because why not?

Little Feat: Transmission Impossible
Zappa: Make a Jazz Noise Here
Coltrane: Meditations
Sun Ra: Cosmic Sounds for Mental Therapy
Funkadelic: Uncle Jam Wants You

If you like country with a boogie beat, he's the man to meet,

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Help! I got a defective disc in my Dave's Picks and can't get ahold of anyone to exchange my CD2 for a new one!
Any suggestions appreciated!

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Paradoxically, I have often been more attracted to things ( and people, for the matter) who are generally disregarded. One of the first Dead reviews I ever read, in music weekly the N.M.E. by Nick Kent, circa 1974, was basically a hatchet job devaluing what he thought of as their golden period, and dismissing their more recent output as evidence of burn out. Inadvertently perhaps, he made them sound fascinating. The names of the albums, "acid rock"...I thought I wouldn't mind trying some of that. It's a truism that when people are making judgements about something - or someone - they are actually talking about themselves to a large extent.

On the other hand, reviews that are unremittingly positive turn me off a bit. It feels that someone is trying to sell me something rather than indicate honestly what the thing in question is really like. It was what put me off listening to Dave's seaside talks a bit. Someone who is indiscriminately positive can seem a bit insincere to me.

So, in the spirit of the above, I am sorry to say I really enjoyed the first cd of Dave's 46. I like the way they inserted an extended version of "Bird Song" early in the first set during Fall 72. With one man down, they were clearly drifting away from the blues, and this set may lack the rock n' roll energy of Europe 72 - but it's moving into the smooth country jazz stylings to come. A great aperitif for the 73 box. Good "Tennessee Jed".

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Please send me a PM with the details and I will ask the Doc to get on the case. Thanks and sorry for the trouble.
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Do you have a question?

Reminds me of the road signs in rural MO that were like the Burma Shave series.
You'd go for miles seeing these small signs on fenceposts that only had a big question mark on them. Then finally the big one advertising Mystery Cave.
Cheers

Only got through the bonus disc so far. Too much yard work!

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Another amazing GD72 show

The articles that are in the packaging...unbelievable.

Music critics are musician wannabees. They have no talent so they rip on actual musicians.

God bless the Grateful Dead.

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it took time before i post my comment and it doesn't matter anyway. here it is...
@Alvarhanso Frankly, it’s a shame to edit 1000 vinyl copies of dicks picks 1 for the 30th anniversary of the Dicks picks serie? Latvala!!!!!!!!!!
@larrygate contact Marye or Warner bros they will solve the problem. It happened to me with the previous dave45 and they did.
@Dave Music is not always love at first ear, it took time for me to like and listen Lucinda Williams or Wilco, but now I am in. I still consider Europe 72 as a peak and nothing does match the recordings of these shows in the whole Dead collection. I agree for if it’s bad it must be good, like more & less, there is no duality.
Dave 46 is a good one; they could have done done better on the vocals on birdsong, but I am really happy with my double dose of 77, and this good show from 72.
I still wander how could they do such incredible recording? On the other hand I can’t explain why the rolling stones did all this craps live records. Except for Get yer yaya, stripped and maybe El Mocambo it ‘s far away from the studio albums like beggars, let it bleed, or Exile.

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....of the Vegas '93 Dead shows!
Hot as balls, but an exciting time nonetheless.
Thunderstorms 🌧 and Rainbows 🌈!

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to hear about these folks complaints at the time...On our way to The Hollywood Bowl show '74 we stopped at a friend's place in Silverlake to pick up some, er ummm, party favors...while I ran into the house to grab 'em my buddy says "Yeah a lot of people say they ain't what they used to be" Now my bud worked at one of the premier record shops in town, Poobah's...So I told him to do me a favor and tell them to stuff it...

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BTO's "Let it roll down the highway" is one the best rock n roll songs EVER.

Blair Thornton's solo is the stuff of dreams.

LOVE IT.

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a favorite place for me from '80 - '82

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....out for delivery.
Speaking of SOCAL record shops, anyone hear of Vinyl Solutions in Huntington Beach? My buddy who I'm still in contact with used to work there in the late 80's early 90's.

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O 46, O 46, wherefore art thou 46? Hath doth thine post office lost thou?

Last 5
Bill Frisell - Where In The World
Phish - A Live One
Dave Douglas - Freak In
Bruce Cockburn - O Sun O Moon
Firesign Theatre - Don't Crush That Dwarf Hand Me The Pliers

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It’s first rate. A real slap to the forehead for not getting into these guys much, much sooner. I have a used copy of a show they did in Niagara Falls on order, I loved Hampton and the Gorge, and I even throw their station on in the car! I can totally see why you have been to see them 50 times, VGuy. Thanks for teaching a man to Phish, VGuy!!

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As per Real Gone Website:

"The remaining copies will go to retail at record stores and online music sellers with a release date of August 4. Retailers should be able to take preorders on or around June 9."

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This is it, the Final Four, starting tonight. The winners of these respective series go on to challenge for Lord Stanley’s Cup. Some of the best skill (and less chippy play) is generally seen in these series.
Carolina beats Florida in 7.
Vegas beats Dallas in 6.
Jack? Oro? Mr Ones?

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Oh my, THATMIKE. I’m going to go with my heart and not my head. Panthers in 7, Golden Knights in 6. Either way, it’ll be fun following the action.

Last 5:
Saint-Saens-Carnival Of The Animals
Dead-Long Strange Trip S/T
Pearl Jam-Give Way
Michael Manring-Unusual Weather
Patti Smith-Gone Again

Bill Frisell Where In The World. Great Choice Mikey!!

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Florida in 7. Hmmm. I like your moxie. I honestly really thought about that, these Panthers are pretty scrappy beating the Bruins. I’m still sticking with Carolina, though, I have great respect for their coach.
I also wanted to take Vegas in 5, but goaltending is the only thing that worries me with the Glittering Knights (sorry VGuy), but they are a powerhouse from the blue line out, and should be all over Dallas.
Two barn burner series!

As for Bill Frisell, Mr Ones, I cannot think of a bad album that man has made. He looks like an accountant, but can shred with the best of them.

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With no hockey for the past couple of days, I haven’t really thought about it. I’ll take Vegas in 6 and Florida in 7. Vegas is much tougher than I expected and Florida seems unusually resilient.

I’m taking those two teams because neither has won a Stanley Cup before. With all of the remaining teams coming from warm weather cities, I would at least like to see a first time Cup winner happen.

I’ve seen Bruce Cockburn a number of times. He is fantastic in concert.

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has a new album out??!! Holy guacamole!!

Phenomenal guitarist and song writer. Was by chance listening to him now (Slice of Life -Disc 1). Introduced to him back in Spring '89. Finishing up school down in Ohio and a friend gave me a Cockburn mix tape and said "I think you need to have this." Blew me away from the get go. Turned a lot of folks on with it over the next few years. A few days after receiving that tape I was riding the Red Line in Chicago headed north and I looked out the window to see Tonight - Bruce Cockburn on the marquee of the Riviera Theater (block south of the Uptown). Took me 2 stops to get out, catch the next El south and buy a ticket. One of the greatest non-Dead concerts I ever saw. The Big Circumstance tour. A core musician in my world.

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Totally agree on Cockburn.

Those folks from the North are quite good live. Neil Young, Cowboy Junkies and Bruce Cockburn are all in my top 10 of non-Dead concerts.

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....are my jam. I have many jams. They are members of my jam club.
Townes Van Zandt anyone??

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His new disc is pretty good, after the first spin. But his last one - Crowing Ignites - is incredible. Totally instrumental, his acoustic playing chops weaves, and the late great Ron Miles makes a masterful contribution. A must own if you like Cockburn.

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....is that release on vinyl?
Help me.
Edit. The first Eastern Conference Championship game goes to OT. That's bonus hockey in my opinion. And I'm here for it.

I really don't understand why this show was cut up like it was...Disc 2 has the end of the 1st Set...all the music fits on one disc with a slight over burn, if an over burn can't be done then start the 2nd disc with JBG...the 2nd disc has the 1st set ending and then the 1st part of the second set and then the third part of the 2nd set...the 3rd disc is the middle of the 2nd set....if you start the 2nd disc with China/Rider and go to drums, a slight faded drum outrro at the end of the 2nd disc with a faded intro of drums to the end of the show....Having fades in and out of drums doesn't bother me in the least

May 18, 1968 I was at The Shrine Expo Hall in Los Angeles for a killer show of Grateful Dead, Taj Mahal & The Steve Miller Band...the strrobes and visuals were awesome!!!! spoke with a buddy of mine today that I went to the show with...good times, good friends...

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Sheik - are you not so keen on those early 70's live Stones albums then? Two of them are hidden away in box sets - Leeds University 3/13/71 and Brussels 10/17/73 - Brussels Affair as it's commonly known. That 73 one is my favourite live Stones album of them all, but I think you can only here it now via The Goats Head Soup box set. Similarly the Leeds 71 show in the Sticky Fingers box. With that one there are also 4-5 songs from another show on the tour at The Roundhouse. Top stuff!
There's also a dvd from 1972 - "Ladies and Gentlemen - The Rolling Stones" from America 1972. There's a cd of that, but I prefer the film-seeing them in all their pomp and glory.

I still haven't heard that El Mocambo show - but it's on my to do list.

"Bridges To Beunos Aries" is from 1998... so.... but the dvd/blu ray features one of the best versions of "Jumpin' Jack Flash" I have ever heard/seen in my life. It has to be seen really- the Argentinian fans going absolutely crazy. They are like that for the whole show - but that song nearly causes a riot! Watch a clip of it on youtube and feel 10 years younger. Make that 20.

I've noticed that some cds released by Bear Family are well over 80 minutes long. The sound quality doesn't seem to suffer in the slightest - in fact they sound great. Curious, though, that they seem to be the only label that I know of who produce cds extending past the 80 minute mark.

I must say I am well impressed with Dave's 46. I'm not automatically turned on by Fall 1972 - the one in 30 Trips, 9/24/72 has never done much for me - but this one is great. I often find myself focussing on Bob's playing during this period, and this show is no exception. He is quite loud in the mix, and his sound, style, what he plays..really good. With the 3rd cd I tend to forget about who is doing what and just let the whole wash over me and take me where it will.
All sorts of reasons why they aren't selling out - but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the quality of the shows on offer, going off this one.

I wonder what impact the archive has on sales now? The relationship between these shows, and those released may have changed in recent years. Maybe some people feel the have bought enough, and are now quite happy to access shows online for free instead. I don't listen to them myself, but I notice they are reviewed and referenced on here quite often.

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VGuy - Yes, both of Cockburn’s recent releases are on vinyl. Check out Crowing Ignites on U Toob - it really is great instrumental acoustic guitar work.
PS - The Cowboy Junkies have a new release coming June 2.
Also, another band in the same vein as Bruce Cockburn and the Junkies I like are The Skydiggers. Not well known, but a great discography, and they put on a decent show. My personal favourite is Just Over This Mountain.

No crowing of any roosters in Raleigh this morning. Four overtimes!!

No way I could make it to the end of that one. Glad the way it turned out. Too bad that Florida had to win twice.

Brent Burns was spent and didn't cover Tkachuk. You could see his frustration immediately. Having to play two games in one night is going to impact this series. The younger legs will prevail.

Good luck tonight Vguy.

Bruce Cockburn on meeting Garcia and discussing Waiting for a Miracle:

But he said “oh man, beautiful song, I hope I didn’t screw the lyrics up too much.” I said “actually I was going to wait until the second time I met you before I brought that up.”

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....I think that game last night was longer than 6.10.73!!
Game length. 5 hrs 44 min
Show length. Approx 4 hrs 47 min.
I made it....barely.

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Remember 2013 Cup finals 3 OT win Game 1 Blackhawks over Bruins. What a hard fought game. Hawks rallied from2 down in 3rd to send it to OT. I was working out of Gallup and pacing around the motel parking lot between periods. Game 6 had one of the greatest moments in Hawks history as they scored 2 goals in 17 seconds at Boston in last minute and change of 3rd to win game 3-2 and take "Lord Stanley back to the Windy City." I occasionally still listen to the last 2 minutes of the radio call synched with the tv feed on the usetoobs cause its one fun memory.

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I remember those two Blackhawks goals vividly. Still can't believe that finish. The radio talk show I was listening to the next morning replayed the live game audio feed. The entire sequence took about one minute in real time. Unbelievable.

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Indeed Proudfoot, I was so sad to see that news. I wonder how many hours I have spent in my life listening to The Smiths.

In other news, I finally got through to someone at Warner re: my lost Dave's 46 (thanks, Sherry!) and I'm told that "a replacement is being processed" so hopefully I'll get to listen to it before the end of May. Thanks as well to Marye for your efforts on my behalf. The silver lining has been that I've been scratching that 1972 itch by listening to some of the Europe '72 shows that I've basically never heard, most recently Munich. Oh my word! I'm running out of superlatives... but that show was so hot it smoked

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So, now the new vinyl pressing of Dick's Picks Volume 1 is up for pre-order on Experience Vinyl for $199.98! That's twice the price that Real Gone was trolling the first 1000 copies for. Looks like the Ticketbastard mentality is now infecting the LP marketplace. Sheesh.

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Wow, Jim was right about possible pricing.
I'm out. Was on the fence at half of that.
The CD will do just fine.
Cheers

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If you want to hear the material that's missing from Dick's Picks V.1 (incl Phil's solo), there's a recent Matrix by Dusborne/Droncit on the archive that should scratch that itch:
archive dot org/details/gd1973-12-19.126124.mtx.dusborne.droncit.flac16

....Vol 20. 6.18.82 Cape Cod Coliseum. First release with philler. 6.1.81 The Stone in SF.
Btw. My birthday is Sunday. Just pulled the trigger on Knights tix for that day. Is there anything better than live playoff hockey on your birthday? The answer is a resounding NO!!

Mike,

Since all of Canadaland folded in the Stanley Cup tournament, let’s hope Conners can hold onto his lead atop the PGA championship.

Edit: Hats off to Jim Brown. ESPN just announced that he passed away. An All-American in both football and lacrosse at Syracuse, just an hour down the road from the course.

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They keep talking about this local cuisine called a garbage plate.
A western NY thing Oro?
Conners looks good, other Canadians not out of it.
Cheers

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I went to college in Rochester for about an hour, but transferred when I realized it wasn’t going to be any fun. The local claim to fame was Nick Tahou’s garbage plate. When you have chicken wings in Buffalo, Utica greens in Utica, and speedies in Binghamton, something called a garbage plate is at the bottom of the list.

I went to the practice round on Wednesday. The course is beautifully manicured, but seems to have lost a large number of trees since the last time I was there. They’ve also redesigned three holes. Let’s hope Conners can hold on.

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