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    Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
     
    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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    ha ha

    An old, blind Marine wanders into an all-girl biker bar by mistake.
    He finds his way to a bar stool and orders a shot of Jack Daniels.
    After sitting there for a while, he yells to the bartender, 'Hey, you wanna hear a blonde joke?'
    The bar immediately falls absolutely silent.
    In a very deep, husky voice, the woman next to him says,
    'Before you tell that joke I think it is only fair, given that you are blind, that you should know five things:
    1. The bartender is a blonde girl with a baseball bat.
    2. The bouncer is a blonde girl.
    3. I'm a 6-foot tall, 175-pound blonde woman with a black belt in karate.
    4. The woman sitting next to me is blonde and a professional weight lifter.
    5. The lady to your right is blonde and a professional wrestler.
    Now, think about it seriously, do you still wanna tell that blonde joke?' The blind Marine thinks for a second, shakes his head and mutters, 'No...not if I'm gonna have to explain it five times.

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    Passing out....

    ....been there. Years ago. I was probably 19-20. Was partying at a friends apartment and went to use the bathroom after drinking way too much and snorting coke. Pants down. Midway through, I felt that saliva buildup that occurs when projectile vomit is on the horizon. Switched from standing to piss, to kneeling to throw up. Threw up then passed out with my pants still around my ankles. Came to, then realized I couldn't see. Back then I wore contacts, and I apparently had puked so hard that they popped out and into the toilet.
    I stumbled out of the bathroom with my friends laughing.
    "We got a pic of you dude".
    So, apparently there is a pic out there somewhere of me in an embarrassing situation.
    At least they drove me back to my apartment so I could get my back up glasses because I'm blind w/o them.
    Haven't worn contacts in over twenty years.
    Was never a fan of poking my finger in my eye anyways.

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    A raise of the glass to Pete Brown

    Though I knew him not at all

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    Passing out...

    Lame

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    RIP Pete Brown

    Cream lyricist and so much more.

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    LMAO!

    Aaaaa dude, that’s too far lol
    Poor bastard. Noooooww if someone had got a pic… ; )

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    @Oroborous...

    the best example of the "public" admiration has to be at Ventura County Fairgrounds, not sure what year...some guy had passed out even before the show started...his friends left him in a janitor's closet that was situated just as you walked into the men's room....each time I walked into the pisser he was covered more and more with trash...towards the end only a bit of his face was showing through the mound of debris...wish I knew whether or not they collected him on thier way out...what else are friends for???

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    How Sweet it Is…

    Thanks for the heads up on GarciaLive 20. Looks great! Might order that print in fact.

    And of course the long awaited HCS 73 box is coming as well! Listened to the 5/20/72 SB show recently and of course it did not disappoint!

    This week end has been all about late Little Feat so far which always makes me smile.

    And a surprising and loud romp through those first four Aerosmith albums I loved so much as Boston boy in the 70’s.

    Wish Jerry and Brent and all could have cleaned up and maintained to hang with us awhile longer as well, but no judging and am so grateful for all Garcia and co gave us while with us. The wheel keeps turning and all….

    Be well all!

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    Thank you for the information. At least I know that I’m not losing my mind. One of our local clubs has been doing the same thing, although not as drastically.

    1st - it is somewhat gratifying watching these guys struggle. Today seems a bit unfair with the weather conditions, though. If you look at the weather map, there’s a band of rain that seems stuck just over Rochester.

    As I said earlier, we were there on Wednesday. John Rahm, who just birdied 13, hit a viewing tent on that same hole that is 25 yards to the right of the fairway. A few holes later, we saw three consecutive guys hit it into the creek. My favorite story, however, was back in 2003 at the same course. The very first professional golf shot I ever saw in person. Ernie Els was on the tee during the actual tournament and shanked his shot into the woods on the right. MFer he bellowed loudly.

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    Hey, at least ya didn’t decorate him!
    That was our thing for a while: if you passed out in a “public” space you would be decorated…
    You couldn’t touch anybody if they went to bed, only if they passed out say, on the kitchen floor.
    Then, it was our sworn solemn duty to decorate them.
    This could be accomplished by utilizing different methodologies, usually involving placing objects strategically, but inevitably might end up with certain “art” being applied with sharpies.
    The most infamous occasion occurred at my buddy/band mates batch party we throw on his property: outdoor jam sessions, babes, big bonfires, beer barrels and sheet pizzas etc. Well around dawn sometime after decorating the happy couple who passed out in each other’s arms, but foot to jowl, on the couch, thus by law necessitating the said decorating, and after tactfully messing with objects around the house,( things like replacing a wall clock so it’s upside down, moving little things around the house, or reorienting books on a shelf, switching the way the fridge door swings in extreme case), oh, and TPing the trees, after all that at dawn it was down to just ole Howard and myself as Adler had finally succumbed and passed out on a lawn chair outside, so of course we drew inappropriate male genitalia on his forehead just as our buddies Straight laced wealthy Dr. Mother pulls up in her cedes lol. At this point ole Howard and I figured maybe the party was over and we should excuse ourselves. So with a big good mornin howdy do and a proverbial tip o the hat to the Mrs we were outta there like white on rice.
    EPILOGUE: as told by those involved. so the Mrs wakes up our Bud in a less than friendly manor after surveying the vast and comprehensive carnage, especially said Adler and his magnificent face art, who proceeds to send poor Adler and other sleeping dogs on their way. Well Adler ends up hitching back into town, but wonders why no one will pick him up, usually no big deal? Eventually, someone he knows picks him up, chuckles but doesn’t mention the amazing art Adler’s sporting on his face. They decide to go to the bar that opens at 7:00, 8:00 AM? Man it’s been a long time lol, so anyway, in they go at witch time the whole bar gives Adler the appropriate appreciation of his fine art, that he’s STILL unaware of, but after such a rousing greeting, and a need to relieve himself, he finally gets to appreciate the fine art in rest room mirror, with a an “aaaa phuch and a grown so load that the entire bar hears it and is set off again, culminating in a standing ovation as he returns to the bar!
    Me, I’m old so only tell of such things anymore, for good or for Ill. Howard, he’s still an acid gobbling Neal speed cross country driving madman even pushing 70!
    Oh, so when we finally meet up with ole Adler again, and he asks why’d we did that to him as we had been a an Olympic decorating team that night, I told him to listen to Jack Straw ; )

    PS: oh, the ultimate decorating involved the decorating, film or video documentation to be used at the future best appropriate time, then removing all objects without waking the victim or their knowledge. One year we turned a pic into a Christmas card and sent it to the victims mom! Of course the downside was the time we were decorating another buddies wife while he video taped it and she woke up….no bueno!

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Golden era Grateful Dead in the most golden city in the Golden State? Yes, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 46 features the complete unreleased show from the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, 9/9/72. Loosen that tie, this ain't a red carpet rodeo - it's the after party that legends are made of. Consistently excellent from start to finish, this West Coast groove showcases tracks that would soon debut on EUROPE '72, solo material from both Jerry and Bob, a riveting iteration of "China>Rider," a couple of Chuck Berry doozies, a bonkers 35-plus "Other One" that hits all the psychedelic highs, and wraps up with a "Casey Jones"/"Sugar Magnolia"/"One More Saturday Night" finale that'll have you wondering why you wore a tie in the first place. Hooray for Hollywood, indeed.
 
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Owsley Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Oh, and it ships next week so you'll wanna grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 05/26/2023 - 16:07

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Absolutely!!!
Wanted to thank all for kind words a couple of weeks ago in regard to the passing of my mother.

Ole Pops is looking pretty weak. Oh well.

Not sure I'll post part 2, as it is an example one who failed the test...

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/27/2023 - 05:05

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I found a bunch of new copies Now available of Dave’s picks CD sets numbers #36 thru #44 for $25 each! Mint, sealed and individually numbered.
I Also found a Dicks picks # 19 vinyl Boxset . )Mint/sealed & hand numbered for a $100 !
And a copy of the Grateful Dead’s RSD 2023 vinyl Boxset. Mint/sealed! For $100 !
If anyone has any questions or needs more information please feel free to send me a message ! Have a grateful day & holiday weekend everyone! Be safe be kind & don’t forget to “Smile Smile Smile” Rock On! 💀🌹

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 05/27/2023 - 09:59

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Alexandra Palace is 150 years old today. Birthday party is in progress outside the venerable venue.

….but even my dumb ass knows “my” bird isn’t a morning Dove. It actually makes many woo woo sounds in quick almost staccato succession and extended duration often as they take flight. The pitch rises a bit and then falls over the course of the song. I’ve never been able to see any as their usually only active at night, or dusk.
BUT!! via my good bird brained amigos here at DN I now have the Merlin app on device and ready to capture my prey if you will, hopefully this evening…though I’m not sure their fully arrived yet. I briefly heard one recently, but that’s it. Eventually they will fill the night air for their somewhat short visit. Certainly not the best Bird Song ever but pretty sweet (see, got the dead connection in there ; )

Now if the VGN can just tidy things up this evening….

....last Five.
Phish - Spartanburg, SC 10.29.94. Latest archival release.
GOGD - Giants Stadium 7.9.89.
Metal Church - Congegration Of Annihilation.
King Gizzard - Quarters!
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic.

Oro, be careful after dark, some people claim birds came from dinosaurs... why they have lizard feet. Since the next guess with the woowoo and time of day would be owls, it's obviously not owls...? If you want to hear some weird sounds, check out calls various juvenile owls make, also found in Merlin.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/27/2023 - 13:46

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are you, who, who, who, who!
Nah, not Owls, we have several of those at times.
One of the golf courses I worked at had some huge nesting owls right near the cart barn. And after hanging out together alone with them on many a summers eve, I could actually get them to talk with me….oh, what did they say you ask? “Drive for show, putt for doe, gotta work on that short game Hoss!”
Perhaps the coolest of our local birds are all the different big raptors we have, though the. huge Turkey Vultures are most impressive.
We’re fortunate to have a wetlands close by that they’ve been fixing up and depending on time of year it’s a veritable treasure trove of our winged friends. I look forward to utilizing the app to learn more about them, cept beware the moors at night…

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/27/2023 - 13:56

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....but we have bats.
Finches. Some doves. Lots of pigeons.
They're petty good at waiting until the last second before being run over.
I have a birdbath out front.
I've always said, if reincarnation is a thing, I wanna be a peregrine falcon.
Zoooom!!!

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Sat, 05/27/2023 - 16:32

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DaveRock... meant to say can you pass the test, are you kind. Natural memory made me add the acid.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Sat, 05/27/2023 - 16:39

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I am on board with your Knights!!!

Seen some damn good hockey, but at times, you can tell with the long season and real grind at the end that there is some real tiredness also. Just my casual observation.

Disney now floating that espn could be streaming only in a few years. I wish I could by a season ticket for the Predators, and maybe the Atlanta Braves as i do not get bally sports regional channels any more. Makes me :(

And Birds, we have owls, doves like crazy, but also Bald Eagles and Red Tail Hawks. With no hunting, their populations are starting to get pretty big.

I never went to the Alexandra Palace - although as it is still standing, there is still time. Apart from the Dead's performances there, it is most known to me for the legendary "14 Hour Technicolour Dream" festival that took place in Spring 1967. Featuring many of the new at the time psychedelic bands, and culminating with Pink Floyd in the early hours of the morning. There is a documentary of all this on dvd - sometimes misleadingly advertised as being of Pink Floyd's set. Which it's not - it's mainly made up of interviews as I remember it. Interesting, though.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 04:13

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Is like a drug to me. Like oxygen, I need it to live. I’m struggling with a spouse who just is not on board with my passion. It’s sad, and quite frustrating.
Anybody else ever have to deal with this??
It feels like someone intentionally trying to snuff out my pilot light.

Anyway, I don’t want to bring anyone down on a beautiful Sunday morning. So, me and the cats are the only ones awake right now so, I’m gonna listen to WHATEVER I WANT TO!!
Wishing everyone peace & peace of mind as we remember the brave souls who allowed us to live free and enjoy the beauty of this blue rock.
First up, the new Paul Simon album. I hear it’s good!! After that, it’s Thelma time, bonus disc first!!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 07:00

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Check out the thread under Families titled:
They Love Each Other, But...
We are not alone.
I'm a music is the best entertainment guy (by far) and she's into movies.
We make it work though. And hangin' with the cats is great.
Cheers

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 09:17

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The Other One is a book junkie, full on needle to the vain…BUT!
Considering how much of a music junkie I am, and I don’t do cans, so overall she’s a good sport, though there are times…ahem
. Issues usually arise from more specific grievances: “it’s too loud” or “oh no, not that phuching Bob Weirdo again” being the most common. I’m fortunate to have different rooms to go listen, but the uninsulated cardboard walls are no match and almost non existent for the wall of sound lol.
But after being happily unmarried for 26 years ya learn to adjust or go bust…
So tips!
Number one, if she’s getting to read, than I can usually get away with whatever, within reason lol.
If both of us are hanging in the living room I try to pick stuff we both like, though she’ll tolerate some dead. She likes Jer for the most part but is sick of Tennessee Jed after all these years. But Bob, well lol, that’s another story. She’s more sick of Me and my Uncle than even I am so that gets skipped a lot, and if I mute parts of PITD, especially the “murderd cat” part, that helps. The key I find is to feel, intuit or know when I can slide a show in, or when to break out the Bill Evens! Sometimes I’ll pop in some crap I know she really likes, that she knows I don’t like, either just after a show if I feel reparations are required, or sometimes just before I’m thinking of blasting off to soften her up.
Otherwise, it’s best to retreat to the stereo room, but keep it on 6 instead of 11…(ugggg, like having a Porsche that you can only drive in a 30 mph zone)
But sometimes….sorry Tutz. Sometimes ya just gotta let er rip. Fortunately she understands that for the safety and overall well being of the planet this occasionally needs to happen.
Perhaps it just comes down to two junkies tolerating as part of the enabling ; )

Someday, when they put me in some horrible place, and am not allowed to have anymore possessions, I will have to succumb to some nice cans and the sweetest portable rig I can have smuggled in and hid inside my toilet top, cause music is really the best, and life is pointless without it!
So hang in there Mr Ones, we feel yer pain, we are everywhere!
Ps, sounds like you need some cans!

Hard choices amigos, 100 Db of pure crystal clear multitrack dead versus serene but boring communal existence…
When in doubt, happy wife, happy life usually works ; )

I heard my bird briefly last night but not long enough to grab my Merlin app…the hunt is on…

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 10:53

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But my neighbour doesn't like my guitar playing. She says she doesn't understand it. I'm not sure I do, to be honest.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 11:10

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As long as I fast forward through Bob's slide solos and Estimated screaming(aptly qualified here as histrionics), nobody gets hurt.
Actually I do FF through these, regardless of who is within earshot.
Oh, and no Slayer/Megadeth/RKL/Anthrax/Misfits etc. when she's around.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 12:49

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Tell em that my wifes friend had to deal with her ex husband bringing HOOKERS INTO THEIR HOME.

Hopefully Bob Phuking Weirdo seems pretty tolerable

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Submitted by Exile On Main St. on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 14:12

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Possibly interested in the Dave's Picks CDs. Where did you find them? And did you find a Dave's Picks 1?

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 16:34

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For all the advice and support. It helps more than you know.
The Paul Simon album actually led me to a Micheal Hedges sidetrack. The first song on P. Simon REALLY reminded me of Ragamuffin from Michael Hedges’ 2nd album “Aerial Boundaries”. From there I went straight to my favorite Hedges album, Taproot. This album is not for everyone, but it was the 1st Michael Hedges album to feature multiple instruments on most cuts. Plus, the last song is an ee cummings poem set to music, with a Crosby/Nash backing vocal. Beautiful stuff!!

Tomorrow is another day. Best Memorial Day wishes/memories to all.

You guys (and gals) are always awesome!!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 16:43

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Oro - my 2 bits are on it being a Poorwill. If its active at dusk into night that pretty much limits it to a handful of species - basically owls and nightjars like Poorwill and Nighthawk. Though they're common def not a Nighthawk based on description and consistently hearing an owl species other than a Great Horned seems a stretch. Saying that, there's some lesser known owls that have pretty unusual calls, e.g. Saw-whets, Northern Pygmy, and Flammulated. Many years ago Ex (still a close friend) and I once experienced a beautiful moonlit night in the junipers out in SE Oregon near Malheur with a migrating flock of Saw-whets - pure magic.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 20:55

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....I'm in the same category. Wife is not into music much anymore. She used to be back in the day. But people change I guess.
I haven't.
She calls me her stubborn mule sometimes.
Then smiles and rolls her eyes.
Rock on.
Kingfishers are pretty cool birds.
Fun fact. Michael Hedges toured with Leo Kottke.
Michael Gordon tours with him every now and then currently.
"He likes it! Hey Mikey"!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 05/28/2023 - 21:47

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....by King Gizzard is a really, really good, psychedelic song.
Check it out. It's on Quarters!
Four songs. Each 10:10 long.
It's my newest favorite thing.
Boom.
I need to see these guys.
Looks like they are playing the Hollywood Bown on a Wednesday in June. Shucks. The Hollywood Bowl is top shelf no question.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 05/29/2023 - 03:26

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Hendrix songs: Voodoo Chile Slight Return, Bold as Love, Burning the Midnight Lamp.

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 05/29/2023 - 05:01

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The first one that came to mind was Stone Free, but how about....Gypsy Eyes, House Burning Down and Roomful of Mirrors. Hang on....I've changed my mind already.

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Submitted by Numb on Mon, 05/29/2023 - 05:24

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Franklin D., I dm’d your inbox….Numb

DMCVT, like Beetlejuice lol.
Best three….pffffffffff not sure that’s possible?
EXP, Spanish Castle Magic, 6 was 9, Castles Made of Sand, Third Stone From the Sun, Dolly Dagger, Easy Rider, Hear My Train, Machine Gun, And the Gods Made Love, VooDoo Chile!!, but probably my favorite sequence is Rainy Day Dream Away>>1983>>Moon, Turn the Tides>>Still Raining, Still Dreaming….yeah, can’t do it!

Bet HF would say “all of em” lol

PROUDFOOT: misses says she has to think about that one lol…

BLUECROW et el: haven’t captured our prey yet, but I did spend all morning listening to Bird Songs, sans JG that is ; )
Though I haven’t found anything exact, so far the Boreal Owl comes closest…thanks for the recommendations.

My favourite sequence, and my favourite piece of music by Jimi Hendrix is from Woodstock - Star Spangled Banner- Purple Haze-Woodstock Improvisation-Villanova Junction.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Mon, 05/29/2023 - 18:39

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Your boys are back to their old form. Fast and aggressive. On to Florida.

Congratulations.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 05/29/2023 - 19:32

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a few of the favorites -
Third Stone
Wind Cries Mary
Little Wing
Electric Ladyland - fronttobackwholeenchiladaeverydamnsong
Pali Gap
Hey Baby (New Rising Sun)

edit - how can I forget The Star Spangled Banner

Too young to see Jimi. So some simple pleasure memories are these. I had to work a Memorial Day Weekend in Farmington NM ca. 2014. A little street fair along the river that weekend. One of the bands laid down Third Stone > Tomorrow Never Knows - way very cool. Nearly 39 years ago at the Chicago Blues Festival in Grant Park with some way strong boomers on board (6/7/85). Stevie Ray Vaughn blasting Voodoo Child and Come On (Part 1). Time travel and all that, that night. And Alpine '87 first night - opening chords of Watchtower out of The Wheel- holyshit.

A Boreal Owl? That would be something.

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 05/30/2023 - 04:03

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Rock You!
No, not an inane nod to “Classic Rock” radio, but to the Glittering Knights! Congrats VGuy. Credit due to Las Vegas: that is quite a team for guys have. On to Florida!

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 05/30/2023 - 04:37

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A guy I used to work with, who was 10 years older than me had the opportunity to see the Jimi Hendrix Experience in London in early 1967. He passed it by...reason being he didn't like pop music - just jazz. A bit of a conversation stopper. He looked at me as though to say "And was I wrong?" How to break it to him.
Just goes to show you can be the right age, in the right place, in the right year...and still miss out on the action.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Tue, 05/30/2023 - 06:06

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Jimi Hendrix was supposed to play at the Frost Amphitheatre on July 4th 1970, but the show got cancelled. I was to young to go, but my brother would have gone.

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Submitted by delhead on Tue, 05/30/2023 - 06:22

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A few years ago I went to a high school football state tournament playoff game. A student from one of the schools played the Star Spangled Banner Hendrix style before the game. He did a good enough job that he received a standing ovation. I'm not sure the other high school students even knew what he was doing but me and my friend enjoyed it immensely. Pretty cool for a high school kid.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Tue, 05/30/2023 - 08:30

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So, I have decided to root for the Golden Knights because I have to back my man VGUY!!

Also, I did catch that Leo Kottke/Michael Hedges tour. It was sublime. I saw Mr. Hedges approx. 40 times, mostly in the '80's when he would do a lot of local shows due to his being a student at the Peabody Conservatory of Music.

Speaking of birds, A female duck (not sure which genus) has decided to lay and hatch eggs behind our house in the mulch we put down. I'll Keep Y'all posted on developments.

If it's 3 OF my favorite Hendrix tunes and not MY ABSOLUTE 3 favorites, i can do that:

Are You Experienced
If 6 Was 9
Jam Back At The House-As it appeared on the Woodstock 2 S/T- This is more a childhood memory thing, always LOVED hearing this from the Woodstock 2 Soundtrack!!
That was easy!!

Go Knights!!
Music is the Best!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 05/30/2023 - 08:49

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The only time I heard Michael Hedges live was when he opened for JGB in December 1984 in Seattle.

sheetmon. 38.5 years ago.

I remember Jerry looking...rather unhealthy.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 05/30/2023 - 08:56

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....Stanley Cup finals here we come!!
The bad news. Cheapest tickets are $600!?
No vinyl for me next month.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 05/30/2023 - 11:31

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With an extra $600 I could get that boxed set.
We all have our priorities. To each his own.
Cheers and good luck VGK and Vguy. Will be fun.

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