HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 (17CD SET)

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer

Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000
Exclusively At Dead.net

"There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners

8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.

HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).

During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”

The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”

Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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June 8, 2023 - 11:57am

#611

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Or Not

More or less decided to leave the analog system alone.
Likely go to a separate 5.1 A/V receiver dedicated to some new old speakers.
There is great stuff available for next to nothing as folks upgrade their systems.
Have some very reliable vendor/techs I trust too.
Esta todo bien.
Cheers and thanks again
June 8, 2023 - 11:14am

#612

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

1stshow

Let me know what gear your trying to integrate and I can look it up and make suggestions if you like?
June 8, 2023 - 10:55am

#613

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Oro

That discussion helped me figure some things out too.
Vaguely thinking about having the TV sound through the big system.
You are The Man on this subject. Don't need an electrician.
Cheers and thanks!
June 8, 2023 - 10:48am

#614

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Daverock’s rig

Hey amigo,
Sorry for being so tardy, been busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
I did look up your amp and it’s an integrated analog only unit. The “integrated”means it’s has both the pre amp section, and the power amp section all in one box. From looking at the back of the unit from a photo of one for sale, it appears it’s analog only. Sorry I just haven’t had time to look up specs etc.
I’m wondering now what make and model tv you have? I’m guessing they were trying to back feed the audio from the tv to your integrated amp. Depending on years and models etc, that could be via an analog out of the tv, or optical, which is a digital connection. Like most things, to maximize profits, analog connections are often going away…

Since your amp is all analog, it does not have a a digital section or DAC (digital to analog converter) so i would think it would have to be the former: your amp cannot connect directly to a digital source, unless it has its own DAC, which is what your CD player is doing. This is why they commented on age of the unit, not because it’s no longer usable!

The tech probably just had to adjust some audio settings in the TV in order to output analog audio back to your amp.
I’m not sure why they didn’t just follow suite with your cable box and Blu-ray player and run analog out of those units and into your amp like your CD player? Perhaps sync/delay issues? Sometimes the audio and video can get slightly out of sync when utilizing different paths depending on electronics?
The switching would be an extra step but the sound would probably be better, (as long as no sync issues) though perhaps your cable or Sat box doesn’t have any analog outs. It’s unfortunately becoming more common to only have an HDMI video output?
A increasingly more common approach to a basic TV set up is to run your sources into the tv via HDMI, and back feed audio via ARC (audio return channel via HDMI) but that requires a tv and receiver or integrated amp that supports it. This is mostly for cost and convenience so you only have to switch TV inputs and have all the video audio on one input channel of your amp. But I could walk you through wiring your video source audio direct to your amp if your interested, and depending on what kind of outputs your sources have: HDMI only or with something else i.e., optical, coax, or analog etc.
To find out, just look at the back of your Cable or Sat box and your Blu-ray player: outputs should be labeled, but if not, you can tell by looking. RCA analog connections are what’s on the back of your integrated amp. If you see some that look like these your all set. If besides HDMI there is only optical or coax, your out of luck (digital coax is usually an orange color, at least in the states? Analog RCA are usually Red for right, and white for left). Many will only have HDMI.

The good news is I don’t see any reason why you need to upgrade your amp if you like it and don’t want to!
Perhaps the next best upgrade you could make if you kept the amp, would be to get an asynchronous DAC.
That way you could utilize all your digital connections on your various digital sources, routing them into the DAC for conversion, with just one analog out of the DAC to your amp. You’d leave the amp on the same input (except turntable which being analog already would still go to directly the amps phono stage (though you could upgrade to a separate one of those also). You would do the switching of sources on the DAC instead of the amp.
But you don’t have to do this, it would just be a nice upgrade as the DAC chip sets in most things are cheap garbage, especially TVs!! Your CD players DAC is probably at least decent?
Right now, it sounds like your video sources are being converted in your tv, no bueno!
The DACs they use in TVs and computers, and most lower cost electronics cost less than a dollar, a good separate DAC can range from a hundred dollars up to a hundred grand, so obviously something made to do a specific job should be an improvement over doing it the cheapest way possible…
Another option if you do think about replacing the amp is to get a new integrated amp with digital inputs, though they might not do HDMI. Some now are utilizing the ARC technology I mentioned above. A good integrated should have a decent DAC so you could use whatever digital output your tv has to back feed from tv to the DAC, or run separate audio from the source to the DAC, and video to the tv, leaving the cheap tv electronics out of the audio chain.

Similar, and most convenient would be a new AVR or Audio Video receiver. These usually have HDMI and analog inputs so you can run all your video sources into it with one HDMI video out to your Telly. You could run your CD digital or analog to it depending on the AVRs capabilities and preferences. You would have to make sure it has the correct phono stage for your turntable, or get a separate phono stage. AVRs, unless super high end, are usually not going to have as good components/electronics as a good integrated amp, or perhaps even a good DAC with your existing amp? Their designed for switching, convenience, a Jack of all trades but master of none if you will.
Also, their more for surround sound etc, and I believe you have 2 channel so it would probably be money better spent on gear tailored more for your needs…but it’s a viable option…

LOL, Yes, I wish I did live down the street, after I tweeked your system, we could go have a pint and play verbal tennis about our favorite bands etc. AND, I have a pre-pro that’d I could sell ya cheap that would probably solve your issues, Dooaahh!

Still not quite sure what they ment about your amp effecting your CDs/player? It makes no sense?
I have seen units that might have some brief latency between the audio and display, but that has nothing to do with what it’s connected to. I’m not sure of any audio gear that depends on everything in the chain “talking” to each other, only HDMI. Though not common there theoretically could be an all HDMI audio chain, but even then I’m not sure there’d be the same “handshake” issues that occur with HDMI video?

Ok, sorry, that’s too much at once I suspect?
Get me more intel and I’ll follow up with you.
- what make/model TV do you have!
- list all your video sources?
- what kind of outputs does your Cable or Sat box, or other video sources have? (Please see above for instructions)
- what is more important to you, maximizing audio, or convenience and ease of operations?

I hope to have at least a little time this WE so if you can get back to me I might be able to figure more out.

Sorry to rest for going on, hey, once a geek…
besides, y’all can perhaps learn something from my tutorials that will help you maximize your GOGD audio nirvana!
Hey, Who wouldn’t want to experience the most of all the plangent aural ecstasy lovingly provided by the likes of Norman and Glasser ; )
June 8, 2023 - 8:54am

#615

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Disc degradation

So far all of the CDs I've purchased since the 1980s still work fine. I rip all mine and keep them stored. Some discs I bring to play in the car, but never the limited edition ones.
June 6, 2023 - 5:08am

#616

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

set up

Hey Oro-sorry it's taken me a while to respond to your post. This is where I show my ignorance - more than usual. I don't actually know what kind of cables I've got. When I bought my cd player, a guy from the shop came to set it up for me, and he brought these cables with him.
This cd player, it was 2019 when I got it, is a Rega Saturn - R. The amplifier, which I got about 1997 has "Isobel 50 W solid state integrated amplifier" printed on the top.
I bought the speakers in 1997 too. I can't remember what make they are!
My record player is a pro ject, and I got that about 2018.

So, a very random approach. Both the cd player and the records sound great to me though. The last Dead I played was from the PNW box - 5/17/74. A really sparkling sound-especially that of Jerry and Keith.

I got the idea that my amplifier might not be a bit antiquated when I bought an Oled telly and blu ray player last year. For some reason, I couldn't get the sound to come out of my speakers, despite the fact that it was wired up to do so. Three people came out from the shop - and the last one managed to get it to work. I don't know what he did, but he said that because the amp was made in a way that they no longer make 'em, it couldn't pick up the signal from the tv/blu ray. He tinkered about with it ( getting a it technical here) and hey presto! Sound!

The other thing is, when I listen to a cd - say track 3, the display panel still shows track 2 until a few seconds after track3 has started playing. This engineer who sorted it out told me that the delay was due to the amp being as old and different as it is, and that it took time to pick up the signal from the cd player. I really don't know whether what he said was correct or not.

It's a pity you don't live down the road, really, so you could pop in and have a look. What do you mean "thank God for small mercies"!
June 4, 2023 - 7:39am

#617

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

GD Discs

I always rip them to my server immediately out of the package, then put them back and on the shelf.
I used to also make a CD back up copy, but I’ve not been lately.
As far as I can recall, I’ve only had problems with the music only Boxilla.
I had a Hellava time ripping some of those discs. I think I eventually got them all, but some took hours to rip.
Considering what that box cost, it was a stressful unpleasant experience.

DR: your amp shouldn’t be a problem. Sounds perhaps like a sales pitch?
A good analog amplifier can last decades, and should have nothing to do with discs being troublesome.
Speakers and amplifiers if well built, do not need to be upgraded unless you don’t like how they sound, or obviously if they break.
All an amplifier does is take the final, processed signal if you will, which is always eventually analog, and which is very low level, and amplifies it so it can drive the speakers. It just takes a very low level signal, and makes it loud, that’s all.
Now this is a separate amplifier I’m speaking of, if you have an “all in one”, or receiver, those have a pre amp and often a digital processor, along with an amplifier, all in one box.
If so, they might be talking about the front end or pre amp/processing section, but the amplifier is still just an amp like described above, it’s just lives in the same box.
I’m curious what kind of cable or connection you have with your CD player?
Actually, I’m curious about your whole set up…
June 3, 2023 - 11:50am

#618

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

GD Disc Rot

My older DaPs are physically peeling. For me it's the discs, not the player(s). YMMV

Lesson: Check and Rip your discs immediately. -edit- And....Do NOT store them in a hot car...Slaps Head (thank God I followed my own ripping advice) :-) :-) :-)¯
June 3, 2023 - 11:01am

#619

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

dust of time

Interesting messages about hi fi maintenance. I am a real luddite when it come to technology. One of my friends recently suggested I try switching it off and on at the mains. That's about my level, I'm afraid.

Apart from one cd from a 1976 Daves Picks, all mine have played well. And the ones in boxes.The ones that don't play so well are ones I have had for a while, and they always seem to play on my very cheap portable player if not my hi fi. So it seems that it's the hi fi that is at fault.
The worst experience has been a T.Rex box set. A lot of people complained about these discs on Amazon, but mine played alright. That was last year. This year none of them will play.

My front room can be a bit dusty - I have an open, and unused fireplace not too far from my hi fi. I keep it well dusted and have even taken to putting an old tee shirt on the system to keep the gremlins out. I think for me that could be a problem - that and the age and mismatch of my amplifier with the new stuff. I said earlier it was 20 years old-nearer 27, when I think about it .

Not only this - I now need a new stylus. The last time I got one, the guy from the shop came to my house to attach it. His assistant came first, and he couldn't do it - so the owner of the shop came out and fitted it. Don't know how I am going to get the darn thing in place on my own. It was never a problem in the 70'-80's.
June 3, 2023 - 8:27am

#620

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

It’s the CD’s and the players

My Onkyo 6-disc changer started having drop outs in random spots. I would rewind and play again and the drop out was not there. So I think it was an electronics issue and not dust. Replaced the Onkyo with a Cambridge Audio and the CD’s played fine and even sounded better.

I have CD’s from a variety of bands where the CD’s play fine on both the Onkyo and the Cambridge Audio players, but a good copy cannot be made to a hard drive. Redoing it with the same burner, or doing it on another computer with a different burner, still gives a copy with skips, but the skips are in different locations.
This was the case with Road Trips Fall 77 + bonus disc (which I only got a few years ago). I had to copy the discs 5 times using 3 different computers and burners in order to get a single version on a music player that didn’t have skips.

The only defective CD I ever got from Rhino was CD3 of 6-17-76, which Rhino acknowledged was defective and sent out defective replacements, then again sent out replacements which were fixed.

If you store your CD’s in a hot car you should expect that they will eventually start to degrade. And the slot opening of car CD players can scuff up the disc. When I previously had a car with a CD player I made CD-R copies of my CD’s and stored the CD-R’s in the car.

I put copies of all my GD releases on a music player and don’t continue spinning the CD’s once a good copy is on the music player. The GD releases are then stored in crates, protected from dust and dog drool.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer

Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000
Exclusively At Dead.net

"There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners

8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.

HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).

During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”

The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”

Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

Sold out

Should have made 12,500 copies.
If Rhino cut the number to 10,000 because the previous two Boxes aren’t sold out yet, then they apparently didn’t grasp the importance of these ‘73 shows to Deadheads.

Downloads still for sale. Sounds like some people can download the files and others can’t. Typical Rhino screwup.

10,000 x $186.98 = $1,869,800.
Good haul.
But $2,337,250 for 12,500 copies would have been better.

SShular86

Whoopsie, IceCream got there first.... WMG did limit this one to 10K copies, maybe because they are still sitting on the MSG and River boxes which were 12.5K and 13K iirc. However they will and have already appeared on the secondary market, check there and maybe better, you can buy digital versions, though some folks that have done that are still waiting. Gone are the days when Dead.net made an effort to get the new music into as many hands as possible on or about the same day. Would not surprise me if future editions of Dave's have their production numbers rolled back. Sure wish they would release some of Europe 72 individual shows again.

DMCVT

Yeah I've always preordered and admittedly held off because of previous sets still available. I think I missed it by about an hour.
As for Europe, I've sent emails asking about it. Would love to see a reissue or individual shows.
I'll start hunting or just grab the single show.

Box?

Steve73 said a page back that he might order a second one...may want to reach out to him.

Disgruntled Hi Res digital GD Enthusiast…

Hi Res digital GD Enthusiast chiming in here: for $125 why can't we even get a simple PDF of the freakin' liner notes (along with proper digital artwork)? When I purchased the Pacific NW FLAC/24 download, I emailed a request to customer service and they kindly snail mailed me the hard copy liner notes. That was wonderful and appreciated, but all I need and expect is a simple digital copy. As further insult to injury, every single show has the same generic artwork for 6/10/73 RFK. Yes, I know there are other fans who will upload the proper artwork in due course. A purchase of the premium audio format should come with more than bupkis.

FLAC

So, FLAC pre-orders are going to wait until after the holiday weekend? If the wait is longer than that, please, respond to my customer service email and refund my money.

Thank you

New music

Thankfully I have a 4 day weekend. New Zappa Dead and Jerry. I’m locking the door and not answering. The new Zappa is absolutely mind blowing. The Dead I’ve listened to the 10th so far. Very nice. Jerry probably won’t get here for the weekend. Fun fact about the Jerry show which I went to ( during my 2 year interregnum in Boston 82/83) The CC Coll. is or was a hockey rink horrible acoustics small and mostly metal. It was very hot and humidity approaching 100%. At one point it started raining inside and after a minute I realized where that water came from and made a bee line for the side. Several thousand people’s worth of sweat condensation not a pleasant thought.
If you like Hot Rats/ Chunga’s you need to buy the Zappa already listened straight through twice

If Anyone Needs This Box

I purchased two. I was going to sell the spare on ebay but if someone was going to pull the trigger, shoot me an email at afperrone@liberty.edu and we'll work something out. I won't charge a huge mark up, just what it cost me plus shipping it to you.

WCPAEB

Daverock They are definitely one of the lesser known gems of the 60’s. When volume 2 came out the college student who ran the Jordan Marsh record store/dept. told me I needed it. I never looked back. Love the 3 Reprise issues ( though you can’t play volume 2 around the uninitiated- “In The Arena”) Where’s My Daddy great if not a bit over the edge. Markley full on shall we say unacceptable with what we know about child sexualization and a bit of a rip off by him of the actual musicians. The fifo is a tad juvenile but the sun dazed is a nice release. I still play the core 4 (part 1, volume 2, A Child’s Guide and Where’s) in order twice a month or so

Gary Farseer, FOMO, good advice

I took your advice and didn't order a second box. Like you, I've received several products from this page before getting the email, and some emails never arrived, but I've always received whatever I've ordered. This box threw off my usual level of rationality, however, because I attended the 6/9 show, and this will be the only opportunity to get it in a physical format (plus the other shows and the box's goodies). At about midnight last night, the email finally arrived.

The Mayor is a good head! :)…

The Mayor is a good head! :)

I was going to order another one and waited too long I guess.

New Garcia Live is nice, I like it.

Red and White

blue suede shoes
I'm Unkle Sam/how do you do
Gimme five
still alive
ain't no luck, learned to duck
Wave that flag, wave it wide and high

Thanks!

MayorMarionBarry Sent you an email. We can talk. Appreciated!

WCPAEB

Snafu - that's good to read. Yes, the more you know about Bob Markley the less happy you become. Weird how Ron Morgan, who plays scorching guitar on Volume 2, didn't even warrant having his picture on the cover. Seems like he's invisible, apart from his great playing. I have only played the first two so far, the stereo versions, and they are up there with the best.
Bit of a Zappa connection going on too, with "Help, I'm A Rock" turning up on Part One.

Just got my box only to find…

Just got my box only to find that Disc 1 from each show not playing on my player. All other discs play just fine. Disc 1 jut spins around tracking then comes up with No Disc error. Only happens on Disc 1. Haven't gotten through all the shows yet but already Disc 4 on the May 13 show has major skipping for Track 6 Sugar Magnolia starting at ~3:10-3:26 and then intermittently skips throughout the rest of the show. Disc surface is clean and no signs of damage so I think some serious issues on the disc pressing/transfer. Major disappointment. Hope I can get replacements.

Got em!

Wow! Here Comes Sunshine arrived Thursday, JGB arrived Friday, as well as a CD re-issue of early Sons of Champlin LP's. Blues Fest today thru Tuesday, and I may check out D&C at Boulder. Wow!

More Dead Head TV

This week at DreamsWeDreamed dot com:

"In Concert Against Aids" Press Conference
Dan Healy Part 2 of 3
Poster Artist Legal Fund Benefit Concert
Deadhead Profiles
The Dead News

I thought I was the only one…

I thought I was the only one whose FLAC pre-order hasn't materialized into downloads in my account. What a drag :(

The bluecrow has landed

hi ho hi ho its off to Folsom Field we go

Bluecrow....

....have a real good time!!

BC

Git Some!
Have a good show Bro!

Anyone know if it’s started?
I’m sure they’ll start late be but being a Dino I often miss the start.
Meaning, at 6:54 MT I still don’t have a feed from nugs?
Prolly just early, seem to recall they always started late there?

EDIT: sheeoot, operator error, already on Truckin, Doooahh. Idiot!
Dbledit: double doah lol, picture hand to forehead, able to scrol back…good set though!
Good energy, couple scorches, good sheet Mon!

problem

Well it looks like I fell in not-able-to-download camp :(.

Funniest part of all is that I gave in and only ordered the 6/10 show originally, then decided I want all the shows. The RFK show has said I could download it since the day of the announcement, and even when waiting till the correct time got an error every time I clicked it. And now I can't download either of them.

FLAC

A canned email arrived a few hours ago with instructions if my order is not delivered. Worthless because it does not mention how to deal with not getting access to pre-ordered downloads.

The June RFK show is free to download legally on Prime. The rest of the shows are "out there" too.

I feel conned.

Still lookin'

I guess I'm still looking if anyone has an extra coming. Damn!

Re/ some sad news my fellow Grateful Dead fans

… some very sad news which I wish I didn’t have to post, but my dear old friend and fellow ,artist, Stanley mouse, has suffered a stroke last week which has made him loss the ability to use his hands to create any more art work at this time. Doctors have made a statement that It’s going to take a long time with intense medical therapy. We are all praying for a positive recovery from this unfortunate illness tragedy. I ask all our brothers and sisters here on the forum on Dead.net to Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers and positive vibes for a speedy healthy recovery for our dear brother Stanley mouse. Stanley mouse is the infamous artist responsible for many of Grateful Dead’s “Art Of The Grateful” since the beginning of the band’s career and through out their entire career to date. Thank you everyone.
Have a grateful holiday weekend my brothers and sisters wishing all a rock’n time! Peace be with you. Be safe be kind and don’t forget to you “Smile Smile Smile!” Keep on truck’n folks!
🙏❤️💀🌹

Hooray for Stanley Mouse

Heres to his good health

Double rainbow🌈 at Folsum!@

....bad ass.
Did everyone survive June without gay people shoving their agenda "down your throat's?"
Yeah. You did.
Congratulations. You aren't assholes!

Holy Mother of Goodness

that blew a few feathers back into place

absolutely killer show

multiple double rainbows. beautiful evening. exactly perfect. near full moon tracking big and bright over far end of the stadium

Yeah BC

That must of been something!
Really good show, cept maybe that transition back into SSDD lol, Bob…
I know it was very enjoyable in the theatre on the couch, sure it was even better in person!
Looked packed? Think highlights for me were that Smokestack and Mayer on the whole Mr Fantasy/Hey Jude deal.
Good Sheet!

Flacs

My preorder shows as In Progress. Do we have any idea when digital downloads will be available? The JGB show was available immediately, I don’t really understand why Dead.Net has so much trouble with these. I don’t really want any more CDs, they take up too much space.

Wow! That pre-drumz looks tasty!....

....Eyes -> Shakedown -> St. Stephen -> Cumberland?!
'chefs kiss'

FLAC

We've heard from 1 Flac-er with a fulfilled order. Any others? I feel better knowing I'm not the only one left out in the cold.

I really wanted this music for my long-planned July road trip to CA National Parks... Bummer...

Instead I'm listening to my Garden music. '81&'83 are cool shows, but, man, these outstanding '82 shows carry the release. I was looking forward to hearing the SF show from '73...

Still Waiting For Downloads

Still waiting for my preordered downloads as well. Ticket was opened Friday morning. I’ve gotten the ‘sorry you’re experiencing technical issues’ email and that they are investigating.

The lack of any sort of timely updates is what makes this even more frustrating. If there’s a bigger issue with those users who pre-ordered (which there seems to be), any regular business would want to get out there in front of the issue, explaining the reason for the delay for the affected customers.

Downloads

I got my FLACs. Email me at afperrone@liberty.edu and I will tell you how I got it to work.

FLAC

Mayor Barry,

It is not surprising but it is disappointing that you are attempting to help us while customer service is silent... or at home eating burgers and drinking from the keg for the Fourth.

Will your college filter allow all the emails to enter?

You are going to get a gaggle of emails.

chef's kiss Cumberland

oh yeah it was!

Loved the whole show! Every song felt just about exactly perfect. Big big sound from the beginning. So cool to both hear and feel the music.

Interplay between Mayer and Chimenti is a real trip. Chimenti like a mad genius, with some crazy jazz phrasing - seemed Monk-like at times. Milestones > Days Between out of space was an awesome treat. Whole place to yet another level when the realized it was Scarlet out of Sugar Mags. Going Down the Road was such a fine fine encore.

Had an awesome hike with my sis in the foothills earlier this afternoon. Lots of wildflowers and the first chonky boi porcini of the year, Headed back to Folsom now Night 2. Later friends.

WTF! Is this some kind of…

WTF! Is this some kind of late April Fool's joke?
Here's what I have found going through this box set.

Iowa: disc 1,2,4 won't play, disc 3 plays
After experiencing this I went through all discs loading them up in between putting in control discs in my Denon deck. Control discs all play. But I then find with the remaining shows this.

S.B,CA: disc 1,3 won't play, disc 2 plays, but at track 3, ElPaso, at 15 seconds left glitches and keeps repeating, later at track 8, HCS, jobs completely out midway through and disc never recovers.

Kezar: discs 1,2,3 won't play.

RFK 9th: disc 1,2 won't play, disc 3 plays all the way through.

RFK 10th: entire 4 discs will not play.

I can put any other cd from 100's of CDs in and they all will play, so it's not suddenly the deck.

Who do I contact besides speaking to someone at customer service 10,000 miles away?

Anyone else coming up with similar issues?

Vguy72

Can you please tone down the negative political remarks. They are not welcome here. This site is for Grateful Dead discussion. You are a chronic offender with the political nonsense. Try not to be so angry all the time. There are political sites out there where you can vent to your hearts content.

Polly Tix

Occasional comments pop up from time to time.

It happens.

Even Bob Weir said to vote a certain way on 10 10 82 between Sugar Magnolia and Sunshine Daydream.

It's a shame....

....that being gay is political to begin with.
Never mentioned politics.
I though that topic was behind us in the '90's.
However, I guess I was wrong.

I’m sorry

Not really and I know how I’m not the 1st to say this. I’m now starting my 2nd time around and yep the cd slots have to be the worst idea since …..whenever
Luckily everything is cool. Gotta go to bags unltd get some of the hated jewel cases

WTF Is This Some Kind Of

Adding to your comment abut defective discs this seems to be a major issue with this set.Steve Hoffman Forums is alive with the sound of people whose discs arrived badly scratched,won’t rip or won’t play.Discs not even packed in their holders but floating around loose.Not everyone but plenty.
I’m guessing there is going to be a major disc replacement program needed here.When you get your box sets
1-Physically inspect every disc
2-Check each discs playability
3-If you intend to rip them try as soon as you can
When you have compiled your list of defective discs contact them.This is going to need patience and persistence on both ends to fix.They are either going to have to manufacture more discs or give out lots of refunds.Don’t accept discounts on future purchases.

Finished...

Weary of the incompetence and no longer willing to fund Dave's 'catch and release' trophy hunting exploits.

Yikes

Lotta negativity
Hope my discs are good
When I finally get 'em

Night 2 Folsom

Oteil singing High Time and another awesome Set II with a Ripple encore.

No box set yet….

I ordered this in May but my order hasn’t shipped. I can see my order when I search on dead.net but it doesn’t have anything about it being shipped or a tracking number.

Glad you dug it BC!

I sure did! Bob hasn’t Shatnerized too many things so far, and the new guys are killing it, Mickey too.
I’ve heard Mickeys been bringing it all tour. Looked like another gorgeous night!

Disc Woes continued…

The sound and music so far is fabulous, the production sucks! I haven’t had so many issues since my music only Boxilla.
Luckily my Exact Audio Copy SW is good, but it took a pounding on this one!
Almost all the CD #1 and a few others were out of the holders upon arrival, so, many smudged etc.
I’d say half the discs had a at least one song with issues! Fortunately I was able to eventually get them all to rip, but often I had to skip the tracks with read errors, remove the disc, buff out some smudges, nicks, etc, and rip again.
Many of the pesky discs showed no obvious signs of damage…if not for Exact Audio Copy, I’m not sure I would have been able to play them?
Very stressful, very time consuming. I think they may have changed plants again or something. The discs feel cheap, the shwag is kinda cheap, even the book is comparatively, kinda cheap…
The musics awesome, so hopefully all the discs will play ok…
Yep, no bueno!

No box til Friday, but...

Und, this is a big but! I'm a subscriber to nugs.net, so I checked to see, and 6/10/73 is available for streaming there. I wanted to do it properly and start off with Iowa, especially since I'd never heard it or Santa Barabara, but had Kezar as my third Dead tape (5/8/77 and 2/11/70 with Duane Allman, Peter Green, etc), and have listened to both RFKs over the years, but am getting jealous reading all of these reviews remarking on setting a new sonic standard for Dead releases. But a nice long drive tomorrow back to Boston will serve to whet my appetite further by streaming it. Just hope my signal holds up.

Also, I found 6/10 vinyl onsale yesterday for 135 and DiP 1 onsale for 115 (still higher than Real Gone's 100, and quick shipping, this one will arrive in 4 weeks, and will need to sort out shipping then with impending new address not yet finalized, also a worry for DaP 47). No more vinyl for me for a while, but at those prices, and for the quality of music, it's a no brainer. I balked at 175 here for the vinyl with the full box set being just 12 bucks more.

The Box

Having not received a shipping notice, and getting a wee bit nervous, I reached out to Dead net customer service last Friday. Got a response within 24 hours that it had shipped, gave me tracking #, and that it was scheduled for delivery to local PO Saturday. in theory it's there in a locker when I return tomorrow. I know the no shipping notice thing happens somewhat often with DaP but first for me on any order that I can remember and wasn't really seeing people mentioning it with this box.

Set II last night - They Love Each Other > China Cat > I Know You Rider > Fire On The Mountain > Other One (vs 1) > D/B/S > Eleven > US Blues > Morning Dew

I'm always there for Mickey and "D/B/S". "Bike horn" drums last night was a little out there weird, felt like I was having a hard time hearing the bike horns clearly. Didn't feel sound at seat last night had quite the balance and separation of first night. Still pretty good but a little blurred. The bike horn graphics on the screens got sorta freaking cool. Probably the most odd world music reference I've seen from Mickey at a show. but def want to hear a recording of the actual bike horn band that was being shown just to hear what that was about. That sequence of Fire > Other One into drums with the Eleven out of space - wowza yowza.

Before 3rd verse in Fire, Mickey leans out and says something to Oteil and Oteil replies and then Mickey blows him a kiss and next thing you know Mickey steps out from behind the drums up to Oteil's mic and lays down one of his rap verses for Fire - it was way cool. a first for D&C, at least on this tour. got to see him sing back with Further and Other Ones. Also Oteil played a banjo bass for Fire.

And yeah Oro that Fantasy > Hey Jude Coda Set I first night was super sweet. Not even on the radar and Mayer nailed it.

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