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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Mr. Ones
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    Genesis, Gabriel, Brand X & Mushrooms??

    Wow, another good thread. I love all these bands/artists, and enjoyed them live.
    Saw Genesis 7 times, but only started in 1980.
    Saw Peter Gabriel 6 times, beginning in ‘82, and every tour after that until early ‘90’s.
    Only saw Brand X once, no Phil, but he played a couple of Brand X tunes on his first 2 solo tours.
    I would recommend Masques & Product as top notch Brand X albums, although about 9 years ago, Charisma put out a fantastic 4 disc set of their first 6 albums and a few BBC tracks. Top notch!!
    I always preferred mushrooms to LSD, although I had access to good quality LSD a couple of times, that was sweet. I could eat mushrooms and really enjoy live music(Rush!!). I could also shroom and go out socially. Quite enjoyable.

    Top 5 Genesis albums(IMHO):

    Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
    Selling England By The Pound
    Live-the 1st one
    Duke
    Wind & Wuthering

    It’s gonna be a music filled weekend!!
    The Best kind.

  • Vguy72
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    On a side note....

    ....my son passed his driving test today.
    Now go pick me up some Chinese take out slave!
    Second time was the charm.
    Took me two times too.
    Guess it a Genesis night. Funny how this site will steer my auditory compass.
    Btw. I have good taste.
    Umphreys McGee is good.

  • Oroborous
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    Fungus among us

    Brand X! Good sheet Mon!

    Since y’all brought it up.
    Gotta friend who serendipitously obtained some veggies a few moths ago but hasn’t enjoyed yet.
    Anyone know how long they last/are good for? I think she said they’ve been in her cool garage?

    I always liked them better than vitamin A, was quite the ahem researcher BITD. Been many decades since, but after that How to Change Your Mind book/Doc, thinking my neural pathways could use a little micro rerouting lol. 😁

  • 1stshow70878
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    Excellent review! I cannot believe I didn't know that "Philip Collins" (with lots of hair in photo) was in Brand X. You're so right about his drumming then. The band is tight. Absolutely love the two I have from my fusion days, Moroccan Roll and Unorthodox Behaviour. Need to spin those again as I've been on a fusion sidetrack lately. Any other recommendations for them?
    Cheers
    And DR the adult fairy tale is a good description of their style and Gentle Giant, even Tull at times.

  • daverock
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    Genesis Live

    I only saw Genesis once, in early 1973 at the Free Trade Hall in Manchester. It was about the 4th concert I went to, and I can still remember it quite clearly. A very dramatic opening with "Watcher of the Skies" and great versions of "Suppers Ready", "The Musical Box" and "The Return of The Giant Hogweed". "The Knife" was the encore. It felt like quite a surreal evening - a sort of adult fairy tale feel to it. Part of this show was released on the "Genesis Live" album that came out later in the year. A long forgotten band called String Driven Thing were the support band, who were also pretty good.

  • alvarhanso
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    Re: Genesis

    Funny how that deadnet serendipity strikes again, as just last night I was thinking of something to watch, and went for music documentary search on Amazon, up popped Peter Gabriel Secret World Live, a couple of concerts from back to back nights in Italy in November 1993. Love Gabriel, and like Genesis, mainly the Gabriel era, though I like some of the Phil Collins-era as well. Not big on Collins solo, or Hackett, or Rutherford, for that matter. Love Collins's underrated jazz fusion-funk band Brand X. That is some incredible stuff, and the tightest and best drumming I've ever heard from Collins. But I put Peter Gabriel up there with the genius musicians, and that concert film exemplified it. I had seen another of his concert films from another tour, and he really puts on a spectacle. I wish I could have caught him, or that he does another tour. He has innovative stages, uses the stage in innovative ways that was way ahead of its time. The first one I saw he had a very small circular stage with the audience surrounding, and no visible amps, all musicians playing wirelessly, and he rode a bike while singing at one point, plenty of choreographed dancing that would make the Temptations proud, and a killer band headlined by Tony Levin on basses and Chapman Stick.

    Secret World featured two circular stages, again sans amps, but now with a long, narrow pier connecting them. They did a song called Across the River with Shankar on double-bodied electric violin by himself, and Gabriel and his bandmates on the other side of the river, and in a little ambient jam, Gabriel was playing rain stick while he and the band took a conveyor belt across the "river" and joined Shankar, and segued smoothly into Shaking the Tree, a great song he co-wrote with Youssou N'Dour, who sang memorably on In Your Eyes. He opened the show with a telephone booth prop and duet with Paula Cole that really set the stage for the theatricality and brilliant music to come. Whatever he charges for a concert would be worth it. Even being the same show each night. Conversely, Genesis was here in Boston for 2 nights in December 2021, playing their last ever US shows, had no interest. But I can listen and enjoy their music.

    And I wasn't on mushrooms, but I can imagine that would be a good use of about 2 hours of that time.

  • Vguy72
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    Genesis....

    ....my knowledge is limited.
    Grew up on Duke, Abacab and Invisible Touch. I do know that.
    Oh. And that Leave It video on MTV.
    What can I say? Gen X here checking in.
    My wife doesn't like Dark Star, TOO, Fluffhead or You Enjoy Myself.
    She likes Sugaree, Ramble-On Rose, Cavern and Divided Sky though.
    Give and take.

  • That Mike
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    I was just going to post about this. I don’t think I recall Genesis ever get mentioned on these boards, ever. I personally never saw them, but I did see Gabriel one time - fantastic showman, and Steve Hackett is a terrific guitarist. The band really bit after these two guys left, but this release looks really promising.

    Dennis?

  • 1stshow70878
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    Rhino coming out with Genesis - BBC Broadcasts, 1970-1998. Lots of shows from places that Daverock and our other brothers from over the pond mention. Any feedback? Anyone see them in that long career? Available in a 50+ tracks 5-CD version and a 24 tracks 3-vinyl version. Always liked their prog-rock almost folksy style. Closest thing I currently have is a Mike & The Mechanics record. Love Paul Carrack on vocals on that one. (Has the song In The Living Years which I can personally relate to.) My wife cannot suffer Phil Collins though, not sure why. She can't countenance Jimmy Buffett either.
    Cheers
    Some of the featured shows: 1975 Wembley Empire Pool, 1980 Lyceum, 1978 and 1992 Knebworth, 1987 Wembley

  • Vguy72
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    I did not indulge last night....

    ....my mind wasn't set for it.
    Tonight however.
    When it comes to psychedelics, ones frame of mind prior to ingesting is rule #1. And mine wasn't lined up at the time.
    The conservations on this board for the past couple of days has been awesome btw.
    Shipping notice received.

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Chill with lambasting the sound quality of Dave's 45. If you only listen to the first two tracks (Promised Land & They Love Each Other), as Dave himself explains on the Seaside Chat, you're listening to Bob Menke's audience recording. There's no soundboard of those two tracks and Bob kindly provided his tape. Some have said that the Smith/Miller/Clugston aud (140589) on the Archive is a little better than the Menke. In any case, once you get past those two, you're hearing "recently" recovered Betty Boards from the stash of soundboards returned by ABCD Enterprises. The changeover to soundboard actually happens before the end of They Love Each Other. Check out Dave's Seaside Chat for more.

The two shows on Dave's 45's 4 CDs are great sounding once they reach cruising altitude.

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I get where you're coming from. My main complaint on sound on many DiPs and DaPs is the drums are too loud. I used to blame Mickey for being involved in the remastering, lol. But to have two shows for the price of one totally outweighs the defects, and frankly that's what the tone controls are for on our stereos. And I also applaud Dave for being brave enough to get us the two shows with an aud. patch at the beginning. Patches are something they don't do very often and only when it's worth it. Especially, these two shows are so worth it. Don't give up on it.
Cheers

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I remember getting this on cassette in the late 80s and loved both shows even if there was "some" missing. I have listened to this release several times and I love it. My question is: how is this still available? I've noticed the last few Dave's releases have been selling at a slower pace than just a few years ago. Just wondering, maybe the uptick to 25,000 units was a bit much? Anyway, have a safe happy holiday.

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