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    Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
    Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
    Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
    Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
    Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
    Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
    Artwork by Dave Van Patten
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

    “Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

    They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

    Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

    IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

    Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • rizfodadream9
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    Lots of tears

    There’s an awful lot of whining and bad energy in this comment thread. The shipping is the shipping. Everything is out of control expensive now a days. If the 70 bucks is a deal breaker than you have the digital option, or frankly keep it movin.. sheesh

  • That Mike
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    Just my two cents.
    I will admit, the $70 delivery fee is what is best called a “rapport breaker”. I’m a two hour drive from the border by Buffalo myself, yet I’m going to pay $70 delivery fee??? No. Not a chance. It is reckless, and almost disrespectful to the effort put in to earning that money. If I get anything, it will be the single show, but through Amazon, but right now, I am not too keen on giving Rhino another dime.
    I suspect the next Dave’s subscription will have a similar boost in costs - I get a reasonable upswing, with 8-9% inflation, unfathomable fuel prices, etc, but then there is the matter of never letting a good crisis going to waste, and taking advantage of your fan base. If it has a similar “necessary” upswing in pricing, then adios, then me and my amigo Chris Hillman here, are no longer buying from Dead.net/Rhino.
    Oro is right too (sage man of wisdom that he so often is!) - so much of the pandemic etc has been used as an excuse to justify really inefficient delivery times, and abysmal service. It is almost surreal to have your dog’s Vet tell you wait times are slow due to Covid. WTF!?

    In other news, the late great drummer Tony Williams (Miles; McLaughlin) has a reissue coming out that was originally only released in 500 copies, called Play or Die. I’m intrigued by this one. It features Patrick O’Hearn, a New Age artist who previously played with Zappa, and an unknown keyboardist. Garbage or gold? Not sure. He had some real hit or Miss solo material, but was an incredible jazz drummer, starting at age 17 (think about that) with Miles!

  • Dancingbear.dk
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    International shipping

    I seem to remember another (box set?) release many years ago that was announced with a ridiculous shipping charge. That was in the days where Mary E. could intervene on your behalf (or so it seemed), and sure enough, after a slew of protests, the shipping was reduced to a more manageable level. Mary, where are you?

  • Oroborous
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    What Simon Said

    Yeah I’ve been feeling like that increasingly: that fucking greed heads have increasingly used all the excuses to both price gouge AND take forever to do ANYTHING.

  • PT Barnum
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    it's no secret

    greed is destroying this planet. Rorer, oh Rorer indeed.

  • simonrob
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    The secret...

    The secret behind the enormous increase in shipping costs and indeed almost everything recently is pure and simple greed. In these turbulent times it is all too easy to blame anything and everything on bat flu pandemics, Ukrainian wars and any number of other global disruptions but these unfortunate events are widely used as excuses for making a fast buck. That old supply and demand argument is also false and used as an excuse for greed. It doesn't follow that if there is more demand for an object then it has to cost more. The reality is that the more demand there is for an item, the more one is able to charge for it and make more profit from it. Unfortunately greed is an unsavoury aspect of human nature that, with the passage of time, is becoming ever more prevalent and consumers are the victims.
    Rant over. 🤯

  • gratefulgerd
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    I wonder why the (19) CDs in the last years River Box were all Made In Germany, sent to the US and returned to Europe for only $15,99 compared to $70 for 17 CDs this year.
    It tells me, shipping costs can't be based on shipping distance only.
    What's the secret behind the enormous increase in costs?
    Cheers G.

  • Willysin4wd
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    I Dig the Artwork

    Yes on the Artwork, especially the Birdman, the smoking rat and the snakes. It has a Peter Max vibe.
    Ha! Reminds me of my one night in NYC, (so far)… I turned a corner and there was a guy dressed up, acting out and he had feathered wings. Yes! NYC thank you!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Maybe that’s why they are offering digital downloads.

    $70 to Europe is pretty ridiculous. Blame Covid, Putin’s fuel price hike, supply chain issues, etc., etc., ….

    Hopefully that $70 gets international customers a quick delivery.

  • deadegad
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    Did someone mention MSG September 1979?!?!

    Dear Dave,

    Please release a companion mini box matrix of the three night September 79 MSG run. Now that would be just exactly perfect. Brent's first MSG New York City shows: Veni, Vidi, Vici!
    Hear that motorcycle on stage roar!

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Hey August I've been spinning 9/20/82. The very beginning of Shakedown sounds like they're all tuning up and getting the mix, but then it settles in very nicely and the Shakedown has all players well balanced. Hot Shakedown>Mingle one-two. I just listened to the Scarlet>Fire last night and it is excellent also. I'm liking this box more and more.

Anyone still on the fence on this I would jump on this. If you like early 80's Dead, this will not disappoint. I love it. Such great variety and the sound quality to my ears is 5 dancing bears! Just fantastic. Revisited 3/9/81 and this show smokes. The first set Deep Elem Blues, Birdsong! So good. Second set China Rider and the Estimatesd UJB is what this band is all about. So glad they put this one out.
Only complaint, they didn't include the 79 MSG shows.

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Just ordered the vinyl copy of 3/9/81 from Experience Vinyl (125 bucks).

I'm guessing the Dead never released this on vinyl,,,, I don't have a copy in stock.!?

I lost a chunk of emails,,,, this order (in cd's) would have been in that chunk. I would have thought if it was available on vinyl I would have bought when I ordered the cd's.

But I can find NOTHING to show this has ever been released on vinyl.

Am I nuts or did I just spend more of my wife's hard earned money!

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Spinning 9/20/82 today and it's really hitting the spot! So much magic in this MSG box. It's been in reagular rotation since the day I recieved it. I really like how they switch things up with the multi night, muti year run from a particular venue.

Also, if you've been hesitant about getting this because of reading post about sound quality, era, or performance quality, don't listen!!! If you like early 80's Dead, wait no more!

I get not liking an era but it seems a lot of posters (not all) come out in immediate protest of anything post 78.

Anyway, if you like this era, I promise this box won't disappoint! and no, I don't know DL or work for Rhino.

Rock on, gang!

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In the past few weeks I've given the '82 and '83 shows a relisten and with each I had the same thought, "Oh geez, I forgot how much fun this one is! I've got to get on dead net and spread the word......"

But I'm a bit biased with towards post 70s GD. The ritualistic approach they kept with from '79 onward simply works and one I'll never tire of. Although, does fall into the whole, 'for those that understand no explanation is needed; for those that don't, none is possible'. Seems the majority of the people that really dig 80s and 90s Grateful Dead are those that saw them in that period. Makes sense.

Of the four shows, I'd say 10/12/83 stood out the most for me this time around. Because of the Help>Slip>Franklins. Has to be one of the better post '77 versions out there. Certainly one of the longest Slipknots from the 80s and 90s. Which is the part that counts most ; -)

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