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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    I had forgotten this was the show with the vocal dropouts. Two long shows back to back too.. sorry for that.

    I mentioned it merely to compare the China Riders. This one is one of my more liked and a freshie today reminded me why. Also.. the temps and weather here were spectacular.. so we hopped in the truck and went trucking on down to the Dolly Sods Wilderness Area, a remote stretch in (in my opinion) the most spectacular part of West Virginia. The high was 71 degrees, not high humidity, but not low either. Narly a cloud in the sky.. so we hiked up the beautiful canyon of Red Creek several miles.. found a remote spot on the river to ourselves, pretty far off trail.. not another sole to be seen and set up comfy day camp. Spectacular swimming in the middle of Class V rapids, but at very low water.. so fun and not dangerous. Beautiful waterfalls abound.. and we jammed out to the better part of this show, finishing it on the drive home.

    Highlights to me were #1 the weather, #2 mother nature, #3 The Grateful Dead. The China Rider and WRS were apex, but a second set Peggy-O on the hike back.. that mellow swank (and some dank) is, to me at least, very special.

    Good day. Forgot my swimming shorts.. At what age are you too old to skinny dip anyway?

    Edit: #1, Mother Nature, 2 the weather, 3 GD. What was I thinking?

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    9/18/87: ✔️ Nice little show. Start off like a rocket sled fortunately attached to the rails or it might of jumped the tracks. Bobs all fired up. JG balances it out with a nice Sugaree, sweet Candyman, and big Bird song...Groovy Shakedown etc.
    Nice/fun La Bamba surprise complete with Spanish lyrics! Good 87 show, but best of the year???

    6/24/73:✔️ I don’t know what the hell it is but I’ve still not been able to really get with the PNW box. I’m sure it’s because I’ve always been trying to force it into my soul instead of letting it simmer and marinate naturally. When the box first was released things were so nuts I’m surprised I had a chance to even just rip it and background play it. Since then I’ve tried a couple times to catch up with it but things always seem to get distracting and busy and long/short.. I’ve still really haven’t had a chance to get tight with this box, sigh.
    Yesterday continued the trend, as I had it on but got distracted finally coming up with some bookshelf plans for my office/stereo room. The music helped the muse and I think I have a first draft witch is often the hard part, but alas this PNW beauty was dust in my mental wind. Definitely need to hit that DS up at least, and really need to try and do a show a day real sit down of the whole box soon!...but In the mean time I’ll gladly visit 5/19/74 later today!

    FUTURE PICKS: the following are going to be 30 anniversary show this next week or two, and their also part of my first trip to the promised land. Finally, after being on the bus for like 13 years and over 80 shows at that point, we finally made it to the famed promised land and it definitely was real AND spectacular!
    So I’m personally going that direction for these, but thought perhaps all y’all might be in for the ride of some/all these 6 shows as Pic-o-the-day possibilities? Honestly, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard any besides the vault/cd release from 6/16/90, so I’m not really sure I can suggest anything specifically. I member they were all good shows, but only the released one comes to mind because I remember the unusual set list. I do remember thinking that these west coast shows had an energy or vibe that went inward versus powerful east coast shows were the energy flowed outward...sorry, hard to explain the thirty year old clouded ramblings of a blissful tripster, but some things fortunately do stick in what’s left of the ole memory bank. Like the vibe was comparatively quiet, subtle, mellow, relaxed in a way that was very inwardly loud and powerful? Yeah, remember it really hit me that energy vortex thingy...
    So here’s the shows, if anyone is more knowledgeable about specifics or has a suggestion I’m all ears. I’m going to try and tag them all, but just thought these might be perfect for our club here as their good shows but seem to be fairly under the radar...
    CAL EXPO
    - 6/8/90
    - 6/9/90
    - 6/10/90
    SHORELINE
    - 6/15/90
    - 6/16/90
    - 6/17/90
    Ok, thanks, let me know your mind!

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    Jim, cursive

    There’s a font for that.

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    Wow, to have been at that Yale Bowl 71 show! That Road Trips release has always been a favorite. That show was a coveted rarity back in my tape trading days in the early 80's. I had read in an old "Mikel" flyer that it had one of the very best Dark Stars, but nobody ever had it except as a low quality audience tape. So I was thrilled with its official release. Isn't this the ideal 71-72 transition show? The wild and wooly "Bobby Mcgee" is one of my favorites. Due for a re-listen! (I listened to the Star this morning through headphones, but couldn't hear Pig's organ, but I think he is playing some kind of shaker)

    Thanks for the JGB clip bolo. I first heard "The Maker" by the JGB and just loved the song. I've looked for other versions but so far none can top Jerry's for me. A bunch of JGB songs are like that: Senor, Stop that Train, Dixie, Tangled Up, etc. Lots of great versions by great artists, but Jerry owns those songs in my book.

    Queueing up Portland 74-

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    I was (well tried to be) the same.. but penmanship was never my strong point.

    Still, for the really great tapes I was able to get my grubby paws on, I made a strong attempt to make clean and cool labels. I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse that computers do most of the writing for us now. I don't think they teach cursive anymore.. times have changed.

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    I think 5/19/74 set II was one of my first 10 shows i had on

    cassette... I even remember buying some colorful construction paper tape labels, I can't remember what show but i know it is blue because i still have it!!! Never bought any more, became a purist how i labeled all my tapes... what a moron i was.... bob t

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    Was there. Pigpen did play his Hammond B3. But it was Hard to Handle that had the 98% of the audience who been sitting get up and dance . Kind of like wallflowers at a high school dance who were finally recognized. And moved their bodies. The organ must be low in the mix. Gonna have to listen to that one again.

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    Had a good time listening to 6/24/73 yesterday, such a good show. I am a sucker for A Box of Rain. Dark Star Eyes!

    My baby gives me the finance blues. Jim, let's do it, 5/19/74.

    Be well folks.

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    I might suggest Portland '74 to give some contrast. The Wall.

    If it's a go, key in on the China Rider. A great compare/contrast to yesterday's pick. Oh what a difference a year makes..

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New audio equipment is the best.
Saw your post on "listening to" and you stumped me again. I thought has that not funny OCD Canadian comedian from AGT released an album? Oops not Howie, but Harvey Mandel lol. From John Mayall, Canned Heat and auditioned for the Stones. Not bad creds!
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music and clean sound - simple pleasures that bring a whole lot of happiness. and who can't use more of that these days? not an "audiophile" by any means but its increasingly important to honor those pleasures and make the occasional strategic purchase.

Cristo Redentor was Mandel's first solo album. He had played on Charlie Musselwhite's first album and Musselwhite plays harp on one or two tunes. Only came across it a few years ago. CD I've got is a reissue by Raven that also includes a selection of bonus tracks from a large slice of his career. Title track is pure dreamy late night gorgeous summer of youth - hauntingly beautiful. What I didn't know until now is that Musselwhite covered the tune on his first album and it was signature song he played. just listening to it now, with Mandel playing the guitar line. And its gorgeous (of course).

On a snowy Colorado note a brother reminded me today of when us kids (4 of the 5), along with a couple of brothers from another family (that we've totally lost track of), got to meet Billy Kidd at Steamboat ca. 1972. Billy graciously met with us little squirts (plus the Dads) and signed some swag for us - all gone now - lol. Fortunately still have a handful of faded photographs that our Mom had in an album. A real blast from the past. Looking online - Kidd is still there at Steamboat over 50 years later - very cool to see.

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Probably still on K2s, lol.
Those red, white, and blue K2 Fours were the stuff BITD. An incredible racer who defined an era, and a great asset and ambassador for Steamboat.
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An iconic ski for sure. Some interesting photos of retro K2 assemblages/arrays to be seen with an easy search. Not that I skied all that much but I plunked down hard earned money for a pair of long/narrow/stiff Rossis - man, skis back in the day were such a different concept from nowadays and not in a good way for most of us. The Steamboat family history came up because another brother was going to join long time friends to ski there this weekend. That storm(s) put the kabosh on that - one guy arrived early but everybody else near and far got shut down.

Got distracted from Baltimore '77 yesterday so finishing that up this morning.

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Going to start DaP 12 & 25 today, maybe a soundtrack for The Players golf tourny, lol.
Never had any K2s but I loved my Dynastars, almost sister company to Rossi. Tried the 2004-07 K2s, loved the Recon, hated the Crossfire. Best ski in '04 was a Rossi Z-5 for me. Carved like a dream, all you had to do was think about turning and they did. I used to find, tune and try lots of vintage skis in the pre-parabolic era and those K2 fours from 1970-72 were awful. I don't know how we ever got better, lol.
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Hit it over the weekend in the car 1st Show. The Scarlet was always a little funky when I first listened to it, but it has definitely grown on me over the years. I think the Half Steps in 77 and into spring 78 were fabulous. Just rocking versions that you didn't want to end.

Would have been a fun show to be at. Love the banter.

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After moving along nicely, my 69 project, he’ll all dead, has been grounded.
After 17 years got blindsided by my greedy employer.
Long short pulled my benes so right before I need medical things done they pulled my insurance.
But worst part is how bad its me depressed. Just when things were looking good. “When life looks like easy street…”
So haven’t been able to listen to much and especially no Dead : (

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That's a raw deal Oro. Everything is bottom line nowadays. I had that happen too near the end of my retail career where they made everyone a part-timer so they'd lose benefits even though we were still doing 36-40+ hours a week. Then the SOBs went bankrupt and kept the $1K I had in PDOs and vacation time. Our condolences and maybe someone will pick you up who knows how valuable their workforce is. Spread the word and like me you might just be working for their competitor trying to put them under, lol. "Don't let it bring you down. It's only castles burning.....". Neil Young
Cheers
Edit: Check PM (shortened by the HN police)

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That sucks in so many ways. So sorry to hear this.
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So sorry to hear that man. Very lame.
Hope you can find a new gig with a better outfit.

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sorry to hear about your gig being cancelled, it sucks. It's happening a lot now days, as soon as you get close to retirement age, they boot you and take it all away. This also happened to a friend, 19 years and 1 to go for retirement, terminated on a trumped up charge.

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That stinks Oro. I hope they have to offer you cobra, though you would have to start ponying up, it should be at a better rate than out on the street. Perhaps coverage through your spouse? This stuff does happen more and more now, lucky I guess to make it to retirement age and Medicare before my employer started the funny business, of course they knew they could start cutting hours and benefits. Bastids.

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PT, didn’t you get the “treatment” couple years ago?

Technically, they had a right to make me PT as I’ve only been working about 1100-1300 hours a year.
They didn’t outright fire me probably hoping I’ll make it easy on em and just go away. Could use to work at the higher rate for as long as I can stand it, but man it will be awkward.
But due to Covid, long short I had verbal agreement/arrangement with the owner which has worked amazing for four years.
And part of that was that if anything needed to change with my “hybrid” status, that we’d discuss it, like adults, not just send a cowardly email.
So it’s as much the way it went down that’s really lame, especially since nobody’s answered my reply to discuss this, nothing, crickets,
17 years of consistently doing high quality and the hardest shit jobs nobody else wanted, making them tens of millions, which has made me damn near crippled physically, and this is what you get!
And long short, basically it comes down to them perhaps subsidizing a few thousand “unearned” dollars to keep me healthy and happy!
Guess they’d rather spend it on a revolving door of young folks who have no skills, hard work ethic, or care.
Sa la vie. But thanks again, may not have any many other friends, but here on DN, like in Viola Lee, “I gotta friend some where” ; )

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Walked into the beer store and there was a stack of it.
Woo Hoo!
Must be spring.
Tastes mighty fine.
Bring on summer.

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Ooof Oroborous that really sucks. And I'm with you 100% on what you said about when life looks like easy street. We know it, we tell ourselves that we know it, but yet we can't help slowly being lulled into a false sense of security.

Sorry to hear this OB. Man. I got laid off a few years back after a 20 year run. Covid didn't help things either, but we do the best we can. Of all the things I have not been able to make whole is the kids college fund, an event that is rapidly approaching. The wheel is turning and you can't slow down, right. We'll find a way though - never give up.

I liked the Viola Lee reference, that's the vibe I like.

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...it makes sense that you feel slighted by the owner. wishing you much luck in your search!

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A similar occurrence happened to my eldest son (and his coworker) who were walked off the jobsite (years ago) because they were making the most wage$ of all the laborers at sampson construction, in Lincoln NE. So both were fired without cause. They were not even allowed to retrieve their personal tools!

Radical capitalist extremists are repugnant entities, but are proliferating in modern times, unfortunately. The love and worship of money over all else is a malignant malady/mindset/faith. This belief system is detrimental for all individuals, our society, our culture, and our future.

"One way or another, this darkness got to give."

Good vibes sent your way to help you land in a better spot.

"Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself."

Once or twice a year I think back to Gordon Gekko. Does anyone remember him from the movie Wall Street?

Greed is good he proclaimed. That never sat right with me, it seems a hollow, selfish gesture that does not give the complete picture when greed runs awry.

Anyway, that movie came out in 1987. There are three shows I really like from that year - 7/24/87, 7/26/87 and perhaps my favorite 9/18/87. I'm going to hit one of these later in the day to try and balance out the greed of Mr. Gekko and the plight of our friend Senor OB.

A wise man once said Greed is a poison that blinds us to what truly matters. Shove that in your pipe and smoke it Mr. Gekko

As you were.

You folks gonna make me all verklempt.

Ha, my situation had me recalling that prescient quote you speak of Jim.
I recall realizing that most people are unfortunately gonna miss the real point, which is the opposite, sigh.

But I also thought of a good one for you worrying about the kids future. Lol.
To quote the great Judge Smails “the world needs ditch diggers too Danny” lol
Totally just kidding of course, unfortunately I suffer from a pathology that requires me to become more juvenile and comedic the more dire the situation.
But hey, it usually makes people laugh, so what’s wrong with that!

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Yes, that is it. What did I say, four from the vault? That is wrong. Thanks Jim.

Two great shows from the summer Dylan tour in 87. Making up some of the shows that were cancelled in 86 due to Jerry's coma.
I own the DVD and the CD release.
Tons of Steel brings back memories from summer 87. I miss those days.

Just made it back from Nashville last night. Was there for four days for a family wedding. Fun town. Tons of live music on Broadway Street.

Had the Dead on my phone to get me through the flights.

When will that box set be announced this year?

Be well all.

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Great show, I was fortunate to have been there. The Dead played great, seeing Garcia play pedal steel was worth the price of admission.

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You were right up the road from me in Nashville.
My son's Oncologist is in Nashville.
Give me a shout if you ever head this way again.
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A tough weight to carry, sending good wishes to you and your son. We've got a bit of that going on in our family too. We are half in denial and half accepting what's to come.

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yeah, I was also mistreated by employer(s) doesn't matter if you are the best at what you do, if the cost of keeping a talented individual outweighs the benefits of keeping that same person, then, everytime, the powers that be will cut you, and sometimes that cut is deep.
Just the other day I was saying to my better half, "work sucks and I don't want to do it anymore". She said, "quit, the world won't end" so I did but not before telling the twit who was the immediate supervisor just what I thought of her. Lazy, stupid and crazy, that's what they picked over a vet who worked ass off. So, I just went in and quit, felt quite good actually. Now, I am officially retired. Time to veg out, relax and smoke em if you got em.

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Will do TN John.

Roberts Western World was a cool spot.

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Cancer!
Work!
and ESPECIALLY Greedheads!

Good thoughts coming y’all’s way, we are everywhere!

PT, you’ll love this one. So since I’m not fired, just PT, the bastardos try to call me up Friday so I could give them info that would make their life significantly easier lol
I texted next day saying you folks are shameless and “sorry, too busy reassembling my life after the cowardly sucker punch” to worry about helping you
Ok, too much pain and too much sorrow here, (hopefully) won’t be the same tomorrow!
Back to my spring 69 project, should be through February by end today
These short shows are beneficial to major box checking!
ONWARD

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Thanks Jim and Oro!
We've been dealing with this for 10 years now.
Unfortunately, it has become normalized for us.
Daily chemo tablets, and occasional phlebotomies.
We are fortunate compared to some of the other people we see at Ingram Cancer Center.
"Once in a while, you get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right"
Vibes to your family as well Jim.
Peace

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Not as much a suggestion as a question.
Is it King Solomon's Marbles or Stronger Than Dirt?
Did 1 From the Vault today and was chasing blues for Allah stuff.
Cheers
Think I'll just do the DaP 18 bonus disc which does not list the Stronger Than Dirt between Playin' and Cosmic Charlie (or the Samson after) even though Deadbase lists it.
Edit - It's more like a stronger than dirt jam but could just as easily be called part of Playin'. Love this disc!

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Good idea, I think I will join you in the bonus disc from Dave's 18. It has been a long time.

Then, Dave's #30, 1/2/70.

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Yes lol

Luv me sum 7/76 Orpheum shows!
But

I’m rolling through spring 69, getting into ridiculously good April.
Next stop, the Ark!
Onward!

Cheese and rice John, everyday for ten years!
Not sure how you do it, guess no choice eh?
May the force be with you!

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While you're cruising through the Spring of 69, don't forget to revisit the Ice Palace, it's hot!!! OSF has the reels, release the hounds!!!!

Doc
If architecture is frozen music then music must be liquid architecture.....

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It's Oro's fault from his challenge to Doc's April '71 posts on the Mars thread. Thinkin' DaP 15 Nashville today. But as Oro said, that's just me.
Cheers

Sounds good 1st Show.

I believe this is the show that Bob says at the end of the first set, "That's it, we quit."

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in DaP 15 are making me go to DiP 25, an old favorite, next to see the demarcation between the 4-24-78 show and early May run. Clearly the Nashville is in that picture perfect category and had a great flow of up and down tempos. They were working the room like Nashville cats. Next stop, the swaggering '78 sound.
Cheers

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That April Nashville show is a good one.
I wish they would release the 12/16/78 Nashville show. That was my first show, and would be the last time they played TN until the Pyramid in Memphis on April Fools Day '95.
Good thing I moved to Norfolk, VA in '85, or I might not have been able to see that many shows. Being perched in the middle of the East Coast came in quite handy from a Dead show standpoint.
Peace

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I was at both Pyramid shows.
Had a grate time. Pretty good shows as far as ‘95 goes.
Got my first of two Unbroken Chains.

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I'm in on Nashville. The recording on this one wowed everyone when it was released. I think it was Keithfan that raved about the Wharf Rat (I think?).

Moving to Norfolk, I am guessing you caught a few Hampton shows then. I loved that venue and caught a bunch myself starting with 83.

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Wow, I can't believe I did not get hay chowed. I'd better play Powerball while my luck is holding.

Saw every show at Hampton from '85 to the end.
Mothership, Spectrum, and Cap Center were my 3 favorite venues for shows.
But to clarify, I'm back in TN now. Moved back here 3 years after Garcia passed.
Hope your shoulder is healing up. I'm still doing therapy on my frozen shoulder.
Peace

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I'm a little more than six weeks out, so weak and tender but improving. No frozen shoulder so far, I've been working hard to keep movement and working harder on range of motion since a couple days after surgery. So weak and tender but instead of it getting worse, I am seeing improvement. I have been religious about PT, doing everything that I am supposed to do. No less but also no more.

Gradually things are beginning to move towards normal (which is anything but normal).

Dropped four flights and cracked my spine aka what a drag it is getting old.

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How about that Foolish Heart at the 4/1 Pyramid show?
That intro about blew the roof off the Pyramid!
If you ever get back to Memphis, the Pyramid is now a Bass Pro Shops. LOL

Glad you're improving Jim.
Peace

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I haven’t listened to those shows in a long time and don’t recall the Foolish Heart. But that could be because the transition from Victim to Foolish on 6-27-95 was so good (to me) that that is the Foolish I remember from that year.

Too bad SBD’s from 6-27,28-95 aren’t in circulation (last I checked). I have AUD’s.

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Was thinking of Dave's #5 today. I haven't listened to this show in a couple of years. Hey it's November 73.

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...a GOOD time for NOV '73

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I think we have about 90 to 95% totality where I live but I feel compelled to drive a little closer to totality. The last Solar Eclipse I saw was in the late 70's or early 80's. We were instructed to build these lame ass shadow viewers so we would not go blind. So very disappointing. This year we are not expected to have complete sun so I have to drive a bit to get to partially cloudy. I guess I will go, why not?

So whatever you want to listen to tomorrow go for it, but before you decide, consider something with a melodic and meaningful Dark Star to suite this auspicious occasion. I rarely reach for this one, but I am bringing 2/27/69 and just a little extra something to make it interesting even if the sun don't shine.

I decided to stay away from interstates (they will become parking lots) and try to head West from where I live using mostly back roads as the highways are already packed with eclipse travelers. Due West seems to have the least clouds and closest to full totality. It's morel season here now so there's that also. When I look on a map, this logic takes me right past the Fur Peace Ranch, anyone ever heard of that place? I doubt if they let me in, but that's about where I am heading, if the place is locked I have another suitable place about 20 miles Northeast that should work. I figure I can get there and back in time to catch the game tomorrow night.

Seems like a noble adventure, what could possibly go wrong? 2/27/69, a solar eclipse and just enough jungle juice to make it interesting. Who's with me?