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    Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

    As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

    In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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  • Oroborous
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    Philski!

    FYI, playing 3/4&6 with the Q, and 13, 15&16 with others?
    At the Capitol of course.

  • Oroborous
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    Ledded Chefs

    Unfortunately, I think your right about the game….

    I fought the Law. Originally by the Crikets with Sonny Curtis after Buddy Holly died. The Bobby Fuller cover of the song became the first biggest hit of it.
    I only know cause I’ve been looking it up and listening to different versions since it came up here lol.

  • PT Barnum
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    I think that was an original by The Bobby Fuller Four, Jerry was a big fan, check him out, one of those rock mysteries that might never be solved.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Shipping blues

    I would not be surprised if people are stealing DaP’s as they pass through distribution centers.
    Little white boxes that say Grateful Dead on them.
    Box Sets are even easier to identify due to the artwork on the package. But harder to steal due to the size.

  • Oroborous
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    Try again

    Same MO guys last couple years.
    Gets to Denver lickety split via UPS, hands off, but USPS doesn’t scan to receive, probably on purpose, then instead of usually arriving in a few days per tracking, it disappears with no way to track? Fortunately, it’s alway showed up eventually. But why should loyal customers have to be stressed out about this?

    I’d gladly pay extra for full UPS straight to our door…
    EDIT: the Other One said they told her it’s because of contracts, Booooo!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Minds would have been blown

    Dark Star>Echoes>Dark Star.

    Make it 60 minutes long.
    Fun!

  • Colin Gould
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    RIP Damo Suzuki

    An unforgettable vocalist with Can.

  • Oroborous
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    Too many covers?

    As great as they are, You play the same songs 60-100 nights a year for thirty years, your gonna need something fun and different sometimes…
    I know I needed em and I only saw them like 10 times a year!

    EFFIN USPS! I hear ya guys, it’s complete BS. I bet they don’t do the handoff scan on purpose, for many reasons, paramount being that if they loose it, they don’t have to be accountable!

    Due to the limited numbered BS, I bet somewhere, some POS is stealing…

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    Thanks Obeah

    Despite your incredible trials and tribulations I am encouraged.
    Cheers

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    Hello 1stshow, oh man, I had a sinking feeling last week when you were posting about how your delivery of 49 kept being pushed back by one day. Because what you described is exactly what happened to me with my Vol 46. In short, UPS said it was handing the package to USPS, but USPS said they never got it. So the tracking went into a sort of idle/default mode, pushing the delivery date out each evening, and I sat there for a week thinking, "welp, tomorrow..."

    But tomorrow never came. That package never arrived. I even went down to my local post office at UPS' suggestion. Then began lots of back-n-forth with dead dot net reps - I think Monique was one of them, and these folks are SLOW; getting a reply took a week typically. But I waited patiently, expecting they'd finally do right by me, and a few weeks later I finally got them to ship me a replacement package.

    And then *the same thing happened again!* It got to the same UPS depot, in roughly the same time, and it vanished. At that point I concluded that someone was stealing these packages; I don't think it's possible for lightning to strike the same way twice.

    Getting it fixed took a deus ex machina. I tried and tried but customer service just basically abandoned me (edit: or at least, that is what it felt like after 6-7 weeks of this.) Finally I managed to reach the good Mr. Lemieux, who made a call to Rhino. By this point what had begun in May had now reached the 4th of July weekend. But despite the holiday, later that same day I got an email from "Mac" at Warner Brothers. I don't recall his exact title but iirc he was basically head of customer support. He placed a copy into a brown bubble mailer and sent it to me personally. That's how this got resolved. He also refunded me. And someone at dead net comp'd me - I think they said "pick an item of similar value" so I picked a Bear's Choice t-shirt and gave it away as a gift.

    It all worked out but I don't think I've ever had to send that many emails and DMs to get something delivered. I was on the verge of canceling my sub. But then Dave stated that #49 was to be from 1985, and he roped me right back in...

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Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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Dave rock its been released on the Beyond Description box set as bonus material,that it s what my reliable sources tell me.

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I see that came out from Rhino in between Dick's 32 &33 and more interestingly was also put out as individual albums including the bonus cuts in 2006. I wonder how hard those are to find?
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I was figuring they’d go with 3/23/75 as Blues bonus also, but probably not if it’s already released? But who knows? Perhaps gives hope for 6/17/75!
They gave us two disc bonuses before : )
It would make a lot of folks happy, perhaps non more than ole BTK!

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about Mars bonus?
Hope it’s not just cut up tidbits…
Hopefully there’s a killer 74 show with incomplete reals but a discs worth of solid second set sequence of ooey gooey goodness as the Doc would say!

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I was trying to send a PM and kept getting "Hey Now!" I was calling the Grateful Dead just the "Dead" so I took away the word DEAD replaced it with Grateful Dead and it went through ????????

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DMCVT Check your PM I finally got both to go through

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if the PTB cared a rat's whisker and got rid of that Hey Now tripe

Poor business model

Really poor

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I would be glad to have the rest of the DaP 34 Bonus Disc show as the bonus for Mars 50.
Peace

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The name of Stanley Jordan's new ensemble.
Billed as performing "cosmic variations" in a jazz format on the Grateful Dead library.
Not sure how deep the dive is, but...
...color me intrigued.
Peace

Something of a hidden treasure on "Beyond Description", then. I can't see it advertised as a stand alone release anywhere. In fact, it doesn't seem to be listed in any of the available copies of the afore mentioned box either. Strange how such an important and unusual show should be hidden away like this.

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Blues For Allah from 3-23-75 is included in the bonus disc of the Beyond Description box. Likely never released as a separate.
Cheers
Edit: Thirty two minutes of Blues For Allah and an encore was all they did at that benefit according to Deadbase X.

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While the reissues of the albums on "Beyond description" had extra tracks added, as 1stshow said, there was a separate bonus disc that came with pre-ordered copies of the box. Tracks on it are:
Weather Report Suite (live 10/17/74)
Blues For Allah > Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey > Drums > Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey > Blues For Allah (live 3/23/75)
Showboat (8/12/75 rehearsal)
Shakedown Street (live 8/13/79)
Far From Me (live 8/31/80)
Estimated Prophet (live 10/10/80)

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I got Beyond Description years after release, so didn’t get the bonus disc.
The extra tracks on the studio albums from Golden Road and Beyond Description contain quite a few songs that later were released when the whole, or partial, show came out.
So, Dave, clean up 3-23-75 to today’s audio standards and release it in 2025.

Pulling through a 21 inch snow storm yesterday, central Vermont into Maine was the bullseye, Boston just got rain. Before that, unusually the ground was clear and thawed, ice was out on the pond, crocus in bloom, daffodils budding, very odd for mid March. Several editions of the SNACK concert can be found on the archive including a Charlie, it can be downloaded via ATTICS, a great candidate for a future release. Landmark show during the hiatus. HEY NOW got to go.

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Sunny and completely cloudless here today, so why not a playing of Dave’s 32 from the Spectrum in Philly 3-24-73, with a decent Box of Rain.
While on Philly and the Spectrum, this official Phish release “Spectrum ‘97”, is hands down the best live recording I’ve heard in a while. Kudos to my Phishing Guide VGuy, who got me onto these guys in the first place. Void filled.
I, too, obtained Beyond Description after it was officially released, so no bonus disc for me. I remember at the time reading a lot of press about the (at the time) rare appearance of the Dead on the stage, who had Ned Lagin on keys with them, if memory serves. A show to have seen.

Shakedown? Hey Hendrixfreak, isn’t that “your” Shakedown?

DMCVT: cheese and rice dude, at this time of year, that’s some serious cement!
Careful Bra, that sheet will kill ya! Hopefully you can just let it melt and not have to shovel ; )

Yeah, what Conekid said!

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And that Shakedown is just the beginning. The 2nd set was definitely the highlight with a killer Truckin' > Nobody's Fault Jam > Truckin' that really sealed the deal. As good as it was I think 8-12-79 was better (of course, it was at Red Rocks).
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Edit: BTW Miller's SB sounds way better than my nosebleed seats sound was.

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Hey Oro, its not quite the Rockies but these old green mountains do have a way of collecting real weather. Shovels and a little ryobi snowbroom that works like a charm though multiple passes required when deep. This was pretty light, whats dangerous is being under the metal roof edge when the load on top lets go. And yes, the compacted result is cement. Take the weatherproof blue tooth speaker out there and rock on.

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..with "Beyond Description" looks a bit of a botch up. While it would be nice to have the "Blues For Allah Suite" the other tracks look like a random selection without any connection at all. Apart for the 1975 rehearsal, I suppose

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DR, I tried to post that sentiment as well earlier but got HN'd. Wouldn't let me post the contents of the disc either, but Simon got it to take. The whole release is full of loose threads almost like the other early stuff like So Many Roads. No real continuity but at least you get some hot songs. Doubt if it's in my shopping cart but used it is around $200 for 12 discs + bonus.
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I know snow, but though I’ve seen some dumplings of several feet at a time here, it’s usually so light and fluffy compared to the lake affect snow belt cement I used to shovel and plow back in WNY for half the neighborhood as a yoot. Which is what I feared you received, glads it’s not ; )

1stshow: I pave heard that show and checked out the Shakedown several times when HF and myself were playing verbal ping pong, and it is mos def good sheet!…but I still like 6/30/85 better ; ) lol

BONE US: yeah, I’m afraid that’s the similar approach we’ll get for Mars, though TNJohn might be on to something. Like something Dave would do…

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Yes, 8-13-79 is "my" Shakedown. A little background...

8-12-79 at the Rocks was a really good show. We got pretty lysergic'd that night. The next night at McNichols my girlfriend and I took a whopping dose and they opened with a thunderous Shakedown and proceeded to destroy the joint. I did get tapes and confirmed that the night -- a great show -- wasn't "all in my mind."

But ... I cannot discount the personal bias that comes with that experience and really have no need to put my experience or tapes in competition with other experiences and versions. I will say that I'd love that three-night run to come out, properly restored. We all have those short (or long) lists of desired releases. As we should. I have had all or part of ten shows I attended come out officially, which has that pleasing I-was-there vibe, no doubt.

Greetings to Oro, 1stshow, dcmvt, nappy, dennis, vguy, JimInMD and all. Yeah, we had the concrete snow last week, now it's violent sleet, hail and big rain, and little snow here on the Front Range flats. In a month I'll be paddling down the Colorado River and that means goin' down the road feelin' good...

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....hey now pocky way.
Breaking down the hey nows back to formula.
I busted out the So Many Roads box in since forever it seems.
The Monterey '88 PITB has big balls.
Studio versions of Gentlemen Start Your Engines and Believe It Or Not pumping the adrenaline.
I caught both of those live.
It's all about timing I guess.

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I wouldn't have thought this at one time, but it does seem to me now that any music-or activity for that matter - that we enjoy, after having taken a psychedelic, is largely due to the drug we have taken, not the music or activity we have engaged in.
A lot of music only seems to work if we take the drug that inspired it. although I don't really think The Dead are like that - despite all the reports on here. I don't know if I would rate a lot of the music from the 70's that I still like so much if I hadn't turned on at the time of first being exposed to it.
An example of music I have never liked that is drug based is rave music - and I have always thought that this was because I never took ecstasy or went to a rave.

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Music is used for everything from celebration to bereavement and grief, and everywhere in between!

Also, this hey now stuff. It finnally happened to me and it's annoying as hell! Didn't we have some odd things popping up here, awhile back?? Maybe that's why

Rock on, gang!

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Hmm, had some comments but got hey now'd. Will see if I can paste... nope apparently not. Comments on ancient music and altered states, how long have we been drumming, after sucking out the marrow, people were making bone flutes forty thousand years ago, bows known to have been used ten thousand plus years ago, that's a string bass. Psychogenic plants and fermentation, also eight to ten thousand years known at least. That the problem with prehistory, not much for documentation, petroglyphs, incised clay, cave paintings. But hey, after the hunt, why not settle back in front of the fire with music and enhancements.

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I’ve just seen a terrific animated video on X with the date 3/27/24 for Mars Hotel. No other info either on dead.net or elsewhere, but no doubt it’ll appear soon.

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I seen that too!!

Super excited!!

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I just saw the Mars cartoon on Instagram. Same thing - no narrative, just the date of 3-27-24

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Weird telepathic coincidence?

Was talking the other day and I remembered a quote from bear "if you dont like today's music drop some acid and then give a chance." Paraphrase. Odd to have it come up again.

Can I post?

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I was brushing my teeth with a large jug of bottled water in an albany strip mall parking lot when a cop car drove up and asked my friend and I if we enjoyed the show last night. It was a moment.

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That's a classic concert story that needs more details, lol. Dozin' at the Knick seems appropriate now. Thx JJC.
Cheers

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Reminds me of the Spacemen 3 title ‘Taking drugs to make music to take drugs to’

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1974
"The Dead begin recording Mars Hotel"* ironically it was a Monday-another quirk in the land of DEAD!!

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Boycott the MH release.

Yeah right you might say

But I recommend boycotting

Show the PTB that angering your customers is not good business

I like the spirit, but it might be more pertinent for people to stop subscribing to Dave's Picks and all that clap trap. Besides, I have always rather liked Mars Hotel.

Oddly, I was able to edit and post comment from yesterday that was hey now'd several times... its back about ten or so. Relating to the ancient connection between music and altered states. Capchacha made me go through two screens, the second was for bridges, eerie after todays disaster. As far as this years big box, sure hope Rhino heard all those comments about the issues with the HCS package.

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Rhino will certainly have heard all those comments about the issues with the HCS package. The big question is whether they will do anything to ensure it doesn't happen again.

Of course they are also aware of the "hey now" problem but haven't done anything to fix that.

As long as they keep selling stuff, why would they care?

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Because they love us.
And as Arthur Brown once sang " Love is a spirit that will never die."

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Thanks for the Spaceman comment. A band I had never heard of before. Gave me a nice little rabbit hole this morning with my coffee.

Thanks!

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Beyond Description is an excellent bonus, the series with the best bonus discs was Road Trips. There is a TON of prime release material that got caught up in those releases. RT 4.3 had 12.673 as the bonus material including a 57 minutes Dark Star > Eyes, whoa baby that's good

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Just wanted to wish Dickey Betts and Jaimoe a Happy 55th Anniversary of the founding of the Allman Brothers Band. Always love listening to you guys. Had a great time at all the shows I saw.

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