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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Crazy man crazy...............

    Morning, rockers!!

    For anybody interested in such things, a "new & improved" copy of May 31, 1969 just hit general circulation, courtesy of the kind folks at the GEMS network. Definitely worth a listen and thank you very much!!!

    Some people never go crazy, what truly horrible lives they must live.....

    Rock on!

    Doc
    Out of my mind, back in five minutes............

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    Not a very memorable show, I liked the 83 show there a little better. Chill venue though.. we had a good time. I think between the bunch of us we could not put the setlist together after the show. Perhaps this shows our state of mind...

    Merriweather was a few days away and they were much better shows which unfortunately let this one slip from memory into the ravages of time.

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    1984: I’ve made up to Summer tour, which starting on I’m on today, starting with my 40th anniversary of my first time seeing the boys in a foreign country lol.
    Really, in those pre 911 days, for us locals it was more like going to the next county, or state. 6/21/84, complete with THE Band opening, Wavy Gravy, and Kesey was a blast and definitely a good show, but not RJ.
    So my buddy Tree drove us in his lil Bug and we both dropped at the exact international point on the bridge
    (hey if they gave us one of the occasional quick search’s we had nothing in our possession, with plenty of good black hash etc at the show, and we’d be back on the road before things started getting weird)
    so a few hours later, by the time we got there things were definitely getting interesting! I always mix this one up with 87 as our mo etc was very similar.
    But for those who don’t know, the venue was within Canadas Wonderland amusement park. So having to enter in the middle of FAMILIES!!!, ya know, normal people and children! And, all while being in the middle of what seemed like we were in the middle of the real life Flintstones as everything seemed like some kind of Disney land plastic stone prehistoric village lol. I distinctly recall LMAO after getting in and over the fear, thinking, I’m in a Flintstones episode lol. Hey, the fear was real man ; )
    I’m Onto 6/23 as I type, betting Jim was there? Started out kinda ruff but creeping into it, it’s picking up nicely.
    Won’t rehash all of 84 as I’ve previously posted, except just to say similar better overall than expected, with plenty of good ones in April, and the Rocks, especially 6/13, perhaps one of the years best?
    Ok, going native again, sorry for the intrusion, hopefully somebody gets something outta it lol.
    ONWARD! And back to your regularly scheduled POTD!

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    So half way through the year, which I’ve been focusing on shows I haven’t heard from,
    Primary: 84 and 94, and
    Secondary: 69, 79, and 89

    So 69 I’m up to November (all the SBs, not many AUDs), 79 I’ve hit all but 1 or 2?, and 89 I’ve only December left, but I need to revisit August in sequence.
    Summer 94 has been a very pleasant surprise! I’m finding the dreaded later years aren’t so bad removed from set and setting situations etc of seeing shows then, as well as being able to finally get better aquatinted with the newer material, which doesn’t bother me near as much, though that chorus on Long Way Home will probably always be annoying lol. Also, three decades has allowed me to catch up with the “industrial” sound lol.
    Though I wouldn’t say anything really was RJ, the consistency etc was much better than I expected. I should mention, I’ve done summer tour complete and just a few miscellaneous, including finally hitting the very fine Boxilla show on 10/1. From what I’ve heard so far I think Dave went to the right house for this one, though the Palace shows, some of Deer Creek, say first or second night of Shoreline, really every stop had at least one show, with most at least decent/good. Only recall third night of Shoreline was sub par with Jer having some vocal flubs. Perhaps the best I heard was from 6/17/94 even though it was an Aud. Think Bluecrow suggested this back aways?
    Awesome rave spaces throughout!
    So if your not a feared and have an open mind, I think there’s some enjoyable shows. They make a great palate cleanse, especially when/if gettin burned out on certain songs etc! And, though the occasional mellowness would of turned me off BITD, now in my sixties, gulp, I find these a nice alternative similar in that sense to 76.

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    Private Spacley checking in from the wild lands of weird!
    Baltimore 73, fo sure, yet another awesome 73 sequence, and a second set Candyman too! Always dig HCS!
    One could most def argue for a spring box, but I still think the first six shows of the year are the hidden jewel…summer, meh, has big hype shows, but imho the music isn’t as good as the rest of the year, good but…and the fall/winter, sigh…Top Shelf where mama hides the cookies! Or RJ

    I’ve hit 6/5/80 also on my quest, or fools errand? Lol. I definitely dug it, but perhaps a half step behind the previous from the land of Vikings and Deadvikes !

    But, I’m here more to cannonball into the middle of your nice enjoyable flow to report from the wild weird west and Wonderland too.
    Apologies for my side show Bob shit show side trips, but hey, maybe there’s some freak out there who’ll get something outta my frontier adventures?

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    Fudge, just got Hey Nowed on a long post…Murphy’s law?

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    6/5/80 it is. Will get this one going later today. Thanks for keeping it going Jim.

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    Spring 73 has to be on their radar. If they can fit it on three discs all the better. I always liked Philly and Baltimore about the same so one would think it's on the release radar.

    So how about 6/5/80 next? I had never listened to it before and it's got a surprise or two. Plus it's mere mention got me in trouble with Bolo (again). Clearly there's something hidden in the music that the Mullah's do not want us to enjoy.

    Edit: Looks like there's only a soundboard for the second set. Surprise arrangement for the China Rider opener. There is a special place for shows where both sets do not exist, I have to think there's release potential for some or most of these.

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    Baltimore! What a show Jim.
    Really good recording. First set is sort of the standard for March 73. The El Paso, China Rider stood out to me with Jerry's guitar work and then the Playing to close the first set. Really good.
    Second set is a monster. The He's Gone Truckin, WRS prelude which had a great Jerry Jam, into Eyes is so good. Very relaxing. Oh and finish it up with a Morning Dew and OMSN.
    Loved it. Good call Jim.

    This show should be released at some point you would think.

    Any news on this year's Box Set Bolo?

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    Do they have Hockey in Iran?

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New audio equipment is the best.
Saw your post on "listening to" and you stumped me again. I thought has that not funny OCD Canadian comedian from AGT released an album? Oops not Howie, but Harvey Mandel lol. From John Mayall, Canned Heat and auditioned for the Stones. Not bad creds!
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music and clean sound - simple pleasures that bring a whole lot of happiness. and who can't use more of that these days? not an "audiophile" by any means but its increasingly important to honor those pleasures and make the occasional strategic purchase.

Cristo Redentor was Mandel's first solo album. He had played on Charlie Musselwhite's first album and Musselwhite plays harp on one or two tunes. Only came across it a few years ago. CD I've got is a reissue by Raven that also includes a selection of bonus tracks from a large slice of his career. Title track is pure dreamy late night gorgeous summer of youth - hauntingly beautiful. What I didn't know until now is that Musselwhite covered the tune on his first album and it was signature song he played. just listening to it now, with Mandel playing the guitar line. And its gorgeous (of course).

On a snowy Colorado note a brother reminded me today of when us kids (4 of the 5), along with a couple of brothers from another family (that we've totally lost track of), got to meet Billy Kidd at Steamboat ca. 1972. Billy graciously met with us little squirts (plus the Dads) and signed some swag for us - all gone now - lol. Fortunately still have a handful of faded photographs that our Mom had in an album. A real blast from the past. Looking online - Kidd is still there at Steamboat over 50 years later - very cool to see.

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Probably still on K2s, lol.
Those red, white, and blue K2 Fours were the stuff BITD. An incredible racer who defined an era, and a great asset and ambassador for Steamboat.
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An iconic ski for sure. Some interesting photos of retro K2 assemblages/arrays to be seen with an easy search. Not that I skied all that much but I plunked down hard earned money for a pair of long/narrow/stiff Rossis - man, skis back in the day were such a different concept from nowadays and not in a good way for most of us. The Steamboat family history came up because another brother was going to join long time friends to ski there this weekend. That storm(s) put the kabosh on that - one guy arrived early but everybody else near and far got shut down.

Got distracted from Baltimore '77 yesterday so finishing that up this morning.

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Going to start DaP 12 & 25 today, maybe a soundtrack for The Players golf tourny, lol.
Never had any K2s but I loved my Dynastars, almost sister company to Rossi. Tried the 2004-07 K2s, loved the Recon, hated the Crossfire. Best ski in '04 was a Rossi Z-5 for me. Carved like a dream, all you had to do was think about turning and they did. I used to find, tune and try lots of vintage skis in the pre-parabolic era and those K2 fours from 1970-72 were awful. I don't know how we ever got better, lol.
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Hit it over the weekend in the car 1st Show. The Scarlet was always a little funky when I first listened to it, but it has definitely grown on me over the years. I think the Half Steps in 77 and into spring 78 were fabulous. Just rocking versions that you didn't want to end.

Would have been a fun show to be at. Love the banter.

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After moving along nicely, my 69 project, he’ll all dead, has been grounded.
After 17 years got blindsided by my greedy employer.
Long short pulled my benes so right before I need medical things done they pulled my insurance.
But worst part is how bad its me depressed. Just when things were looking good. “When life looks like easy street…”
So haven’t been able to listen to much and especially no Dead : (

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That's a raw deal Oro. Everything is bottom line nowadays. I had that happen too near the end of my retail career where they made everyone a part-timer so they'd lose benefits even though we were still doing 36-40+ hours a week. Then the SOBs went bankrupt and kept the $1K I had in PDOs and vacation time. Our condolences and maybe someone will pick you up who knows how valuable their workforce is. Spread the word and like me you might just be working for their competitor trying to put them under, lol. "Don't let it bring you down. It's only castles burning.....". Neil Young
Cheers
Edit: Check PM (shortened by the HN police)

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That sucks in so many ways. So sorry to hear this.
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So sorry to hear that man. Very lame.
Hope you can find a new gig with a better outfit.

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sorry to hear about your gig being cancelled, it sucks. It's happening a lot now days, as soon as you get close to retirement age, they boot you and take it all away. This also happened to a friend, 19 years and 1 to go for retirement, terminated on a trumped up charge.

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That stinks Oro. I hope they have to offer you cobra, though you would have to start ponying up, it should be at a better rate than out on the street. Perhaps coverage through your spouse? This stuff does happen more and more now, lucky I guess to make it to retirement age and Medicare before my employer started the funny business, of course they knew they could start cutting hours and benefits. Bastids.

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PT, didn’t you get the “treatment” couple years ago?

Technically, they had a right to make me PT as I’ve only been working about 1100-1300 hours a year.
They didn’t outright fire me probably hoping I’ll make it easy on em and just go away. Could use to work at the higher rate for as long as I can stand it, but man it will be awkward.
But due to Covid, long short I had verbal agreement/arrangement with the owner which has worked amazing for four years.
And part of that was that if anything needed to change with my “hybrid” status, that we’d discuss it, like adults, not just send a cowardly email.
So it’s as much the way it went down that’s really lame, especially since nobody’s answered my reply to discuss this, nothing, crickets,
17 years of consistently doing high quality and the hardest shit jobs nobody else wanted, making them tens of millions, which has made me damn near crippled physically, and this is what you get!
And long short, basically it comes down to them perhaps subsidizing a few thousand “unearned” dollars to keep me healthy and happy!
Guess they’d rather spend it on a revolving door of young folks who have no skills, hard work ethic, or care.
Sa la vie. But thanks again, may not have any many other friends, but here on DN, like in Viola Lee, “I gotta friend some where” ; )

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Walked into the beer store and there was a stack of it.
Woo Hoo!
Must be spring.
Tastes mighty fine.
Bring on summer.

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Ooof Oroborous that really sucks. And I'm with you 100% on what you said about when life looks like easy street. We know it, we tell ourselves that we know it, but yet we can't help slowly being lulled into a false sense of security.

Sorry to hear this OB. Man. I got laid off a few years back after a 20 year run. Covid didn't help things either, but we do the best we can. Of all the things I have not been able to make whole is the kids college fund, an event that is rapidly approaching. The wheel is turning and you can't slow down, right. We'll find a way though - never give up.

I liked the Viola Lee reference, that's the vibe I like.

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...it makes sense that you feel slighted by the owner. wishing you much luck in your search!

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A similar occurrence happened to my eldest son (and his coworker) who were walked off the jobsite (years ago) because they were making the most wage$ of all the laborers at sampson construction, in Lincoln NE. So both were fired without cause. They were not even allowed to retrieve their personal tools!

Radical capitalist extremists are repugnant entities, but are proliferating in modern times, unfortunately. The love and worship of money over all else is a malignant malady/mindset/faith. This belief system is detrimental for all individuals, our society, our culture, and our future.

"One way or another, this darkness got to give."

Good vibes sent your way to help you land in a better spot.

"Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself."

Once or twice a year I think back to Gordon Gekko. Does anyone remember him from the movie Wall Street?

Greed is good he proclaimed. That never sat right with me, it seems a hollow, selfish gesture that does not give the complete picture when greed runs awry.

Anyway, that movie came out in 1987. There are three shows I really like from that year - 7/24/87, 7/26/87 and perhaps my favorite 9/18/87. I'm going to hit one of these later in the day to try and balance out the greed of Mr. Gekko and the plight of our friend Senor OB.

A wise man once said Greed is a poison that blinds us to what truly matters. Shove that in your pipe and smoke it Mr. Gekko

As you were.

You folks gonna make me all verklempt.

Ha, my situation had me recalling that prescient quote you speak of Jim.
I recall realizing that most people are unfortunately gonna miss the real point, which is the opposite, sigh.

But I also thought of a good one for you worrying about the kids future. Lol.
To quote the great Judge Smails “the world needs ditch diggers too Danny” lol
Totally just kidding of course, unfortunately I suffer from a pathology that requires me to become more juvenile and comedic the more dire the situation.
But hey, it usually makes people laugh, so what’s wrong with that!

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Yes, that is it. What did I say, four from the vault? That is wrong. Thanks Jim.

Two great shows from the summer Dylan tour in 87. Making up some of the shows that were cancelled in 86 due to Jerry's coma.
I own the DVD and the CD release.
Tons of Steel brings back memories from summer 87. I miss those days.

Just made it back from Nashville last night. Was there for four days for a family wedding. Fun town. Tons of live music on Broadway Street.

Had the Dead on my phone to get me through the flights.

When will that box set be announced this year?

Be well all.

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Great show, I was fortunate to have been there. The Dead played great, seeing Garcia play pedal steel was worth the price of admission.

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You were right up the road from me in Nashville.
My son's Oncologist is in Nashville.
Give me a shout if you ever head this way again.
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A tough weight to carry, sending good wishes to you and your son. We've got a bit of that going on in our family too. We are half in denial and half accepting what's to come.

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yeah, I was also mistreated by employer(s) doesn't matter if you are the best at what you do, if the cost of keeping a talented individual outweighs the benefits of keeping that same person, then, everytime, the powers that be will cut you, and sometimes that cut is deep.
Just the other day I was saying to my better half, "work sucks and I don't want to do it anymore". She said, "quit, the world won't end" so I did but not before telling the twit who was the immediate supervisor just what I thought of her. Lazy, stupid and crazy, that's what they picked over a vet who worked ass off. So, I just went in and quit, felt quite good actually. Now, I am officially retired. Time to veg out, relax and smoke em if you got em.

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Will do TN John.

Roberts Western World was a cool spot.

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Cancer!
Work!
and ESPECIALLY Greedheads!

Good thoughts coming y’all’s way, we are everywhere!

PT, you’ll love this one. So since I’m not fired, just PT, the bastardos try to call me up Friday so I could give them info that would make their life significantly easier lol
I texted next day saying you folks are shameless and “sorry, too busy reassembling my life after the cowardly sucker punch” to worry about helping you
Ok, too much pain and too much sorrow here, (hopefully) won’t be the same tomorrow!
Back to my spring 69 project, should be through February by end today
These short shows are beneficial to major box checking!
ONWARD

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Thanks Jim and Oro!
We've been dealing with this for 10 years now.
Unfortunately, it has become normalized for us.
Daily chemo tablets, and occasional phlebotomies.
We are fortunate compared to some of the other people we see at Ingram Cancer Center.
"Once in a while, you get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right"
Vibes to your family as well Jim.
Peace

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Not as much a suggestion as a question.
Is it King Solomon's Marbles or Stronger Than Dirt?
Did 1 From the Vault today and was chasing blues for Allah stuff.
Cheers
Think I'll just do the DaP 18 bonus disc which does not list the Stronger Than Dirt between Playin' and Cosmic Charlie (or the Samson after) even though Deadbase lists it.
Edit - It's more like a stronger than dirt jam but could just as easily be called part of Playin'. Love this disc!

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Good idea, I think I will join you in the bonus disc from Dave's 18. It has been a long time.

Then, Dave's #30, 1/2/70.

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Yes lol

Luv me sum 7/76 Orpheum shows!
But

I’m rolling through spring 69, getting into ridiculously good April.
Next stop, the Ark!
Onward!

Cheese and rice John, everyday for ten years!
Not sure how you do it, guess no choice eh?
May the force be with you!

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While you're cruising through the Spring of 69, don't forget to revisit the Ice Palace, it's hot!!! OSF has the reels, release the hounds!!!!

Doc
If architecture is frozen music then music must be liquid architecture.....

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It's Oro's fault from his challenge to Doc's April '71 posts on the Mars thread. Thinkin' DaP 15 Nashville today. But as Oro said, that's just me.
Cheers

Sounds good 1st Show.

I believe this is the show that Bob says at the end of the first set, "That's it, we quit."

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in DaP 15 are making me go to DiP 25, an old favorite, next to see the demarcation between the 4-24-78 show and early May run. Clearly the Nashville is in that picture perfect category and had a great flow of up and down tempos. They were working the room like Nashville cats. Next stop, the swaggering '78 sound.
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That April Nashville show is a good one.
I wish they would release the 12/16/78 Nashville show. That was my first show, and would be the last time they played TN until the Pyramid in Memphis on April Fools Day '95.
Good thing I moved to Norfolk, VA in '85, or I might not have been able to see that many shows. Being perched in the middle of the East Coast came in quite handy from a Dead show standpoint.
Peace

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I was at both Pyramid shows.
Had a grate time. Pretty good shows as far as ‘95 goes.
Got my first of two Unbroken Chains.

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I'm in on Nashville. The recording on this one wowed everyone when it was released. I think it was Keithfan that raved about the Wharf Rat (I think?).

Moving to Norfolk, I am guessing you caught a few Hampton shows then. I loved that venue and caught a bunch myself starting with 83.

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Wow, I can't believe I did not get hay chowed. I'd better play Powerball while my luck is holding.

Saw every show at Hampton from '85 to the end.
Mothership, Spectrum, and Cap Center were my 3 favorite venues for shows.
But to clarify, I'm back in TN now. Moved back here 3 years after Garcia passed.
Hope your shoulder is healing up. I'm still doing therapy on my frozen shoulder.
Peace

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I'm a little more than six weeks out, so weak and tender but improving. No frozen shoulder so far, I've been working hard to keep movement and working harder on range of motion since a couple days after surgery. So weak and tender but instead of it getting worse, I am seeing improvement. I have been religious about PT, doing everything that I am supposed to do. No less but also no more.

Gradually things are beginning to move towards normal (which is anything but normal).

Dropped four flights and cracked my spine aka what a drag it is getting old.

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How about that Foolish Heart at the 4/1 Pyramid show?
That intro about blew the roof off the Pyramid!
If you ever get back to Memphis, the Pyramid is now a Bass Pro Shops. LOL

Glad you're improving Jim.
Peace

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I haven’t listened to those shows in a long time and don’t recall the Foolish Heart. But that could be because the transition from Victim to Foolish on 6-27-95 was so good (to me) that that is the Foolish I remember from that year.

Too bad SBD’s from 6-27,28-95 aren’t in circulation (last I checked). I have AUD’s.

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Was thinking of Dave's #5 today. I haven't listened to this show in a couple of years. Hey it's November 73.

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...a GOOD time for NOV '73

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I think we have about 90 to 95% totality where I live but I feel compelled to drive a little closer to totality. The last Solar Eclipse I saw was in the late 70's or early 80's. We were instructed to build these lame ass shadow viewers so we would not go blind. So very disappointing. This year we are not expected to have complete sun so I have to drive a bit to get to partially cloudy. I guess I will go, why not?

So whatever you want to listen to tomorrow go for it, but before you decide, consider something with a melodic and meaningful Dark Star to suite this auspicious occasion. I rarely reach for this one, but I am bringing 2/27/69 and just a little extra something to make it interesting even if the sun don't shine.

I decided to stay away from interstates (they will become parking lots) and try to head West from where I live using mostly back roads as the highways are already packed with eclipse travelers. Due West seems to have the least clouds and closest to full totality. It's morel season here now so there's that also. When I look on a map, this logic takes me right past the Fur Peace Ranch, anyone ever heard of that place? I doubt if they let me in, but that's about where I am heading, if the place is locked I have another suitable place about 20 miles Northeast that should work. I figure I can get there and back in time to catch the game tomorrow night.

Seems like a noble adventure, what could possibly go wrong? 2/27/69, a solar eclipse and just enough jungle juice to make it interesting. Who's with me?