Dave's Picks Vol. 49: Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA (4/27/85 & 4/28/85)

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Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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March 13, 2024 - 9:16am

#351

proudfoot

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what a greedy organization

disgusting
March 13, 2024 - 2:04am

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daverock

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It's all been done before

Crow - well, if you put it like that ! What you say is true, but I was going back in time to when I first saw Robin Trower. At that time, my mid teens, I had little or no historical perspective on the bands I was seeing. Jimi Hendrix was a historical figure - as distant as the second world war, even though he had only died a few years ago. I probably heard "Bridge of Sighs" before "Electric Ladyland".
Rock critics, on the other hand, 5- 10 years older than me, remembered the 1960's first hand. To them, a lot of what I liked was derivative - but to me it was like a bolt out of the blue.
March 12, 2024 - 7:58pm

#353

Vguy72

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Yoshimi....

....I put on (vinyl. I know!) just before reading that.
Kewl. And Klassic.
Ego Tripping At The Gates Of Hell.
Boom.
The Lips deliver awesome packages. Big fan.
Vinyl love update....
It's hard to follow my personal mantra of two records a month.
They sound so much better.
Twenty-year old me is saying, "No shit Sherlock. Remember?"
March 12, 2024 - 4:35pm

#354

Crow Told Me

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Roomful of Mirrors

Generally speaking, it's unfair to compare any guitarist to Jimi. But if you're a guy who uses the same Strat, Marshall amp, Univibe pedal set up Hendrix used, and you're pretty unapologetically copying his guitar sound, well, people are going to make that comparison.

Still, I loved Bridge of Sighs, derivative though it may be. I also really dug a record he did with Jack Bruce called BLT that really sounded like Cream.

Last five, just on the odd chance I don't get Hey Now'd:

Aaron Copland/BSO: Appalachian Spring
Maceo Parker: Mo Roots
Dumpstaphunk: Where Do We Go From Here
GOGD: Two from the Vault
Flaming Lips: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

So what if I am a robot? What's it to ya, maaaaaan?
March 12, 2024 - 12:01pm

#355

Obeah

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ty 1STSHOW70878 and DAVEROCK

Thanks to the both of you (heck, thanks to HF too for that fun post, below)

And yeah, that's just not fair: "not as good as Hendrix." If that's the mark then almost no one will come up to scratch.
March 12, 2024 - 11:26am

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daverock

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Random

Obeah - it's often quite random who we get into, and who we don't. Especially when we are young. Robin Trower toured quite frequently in the mid 70's, when I started going to gigs. I remember the music press were quite sniffy about him - not a s good as Hendrix was the cry. If we didn't see anyone on that basis, there wouldn't have been much left.
March 12, 2024 - 11:10am

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hendrixfreak

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the Buffalo Rose (after it fell down)

1st show, the Buffalo Rose is a pretty good venue. Rectangular with the stage facing the long floor, they have a modestly sized section in front of the stage for the stand-up close crowd (GA), which precludes room to dance. About 6-7 rows deep of four tables across on the main floor for which they charge a premium ($600-700 for four-top, vs. $75 (+ fees) for GA. Upstairs a horseshoe shaped balcony wraps around opposite the stage and the prime seats on the rail are more expensive. However, behind those balcony seats at the back upstairs wall are bar stools where we took up a position and could see and hear the band quite well. Big open room bar at that end and several bars downstairs. The places holds ~650 and that's a comfortable density. But tics are a bit more expensive as it is small, at least for a well-known touring band. In the past, with local acts, I felt the PA volume was way too high, but either they figured it out or Los Lobos had control. Good fun people go to see that band and I thoroughly enjoyed. We ate at El Dorado beforehand; recommended.

HF
March 12, 2024 - 7:24am

#358

1stshow70878

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Just Another Band From East LA

HF - What was that venue like? We saw the Buffalo Rose as we were walking around Golden last month. Was recommended by the hotel staff as the place to hear live music in town. I didn't delve into Los Lobos until I'd heard their Bertha on the Deadicated release.
Obeah, check out the Los Lobos release of the same name as my post subject line for a good feel for them. Start with disc 2, it rocks. The 1st disc starts out with traditional music.
Cheers
March 12, 2024 - 7:00am

#359

Obeah

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yarr

thanks Alvarhanso for pointing me in some helpful directios re: RRE.

And Daverock yes if I'm honest I don't know Robin Trower from anything but PH. He seems to be quite prolific. I'd guess one factor is my age - when he was doing that Night of the Guitars tour I was a few months from being a teenager. Another factor might be Trower's absence from American "classic rock" radio - I don't recall any of the material from his solo stuff breaking through.

Ofc this board often serves to show me that my musical depth isnt always as deep as I might believe. HF talking about Los Lobos, for example... I had no idea that those folks rewarded their fans with such live experiences.
March 12, 2024 - 4:35am

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daverock

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Curious

That Robin Trower seems primarily known on here for playing with Procul Harum. Although I have "Shine On Brightly" on cd, I have never really listened to it that much. Seems I have some catching up to do. He played some very powerful music in the mid 70's, which is what I associate him with.

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Anyone who has ever seen the Dead can testify that one of its shows will add quite a bit of color to the environment here at Stanford. Anyone who has not seen one of these spectacles should have the opportunity to do so. The Grateful Dead are an important part of the Bay Area's cultural history. Those of us who saw them last week can testify that the Dead are alive and well. The Concert Network would be hard-pressed to find an act which would bring Frost Amphitheatre to life as the Dead would. - The Stanford Daily

As you know by now, we'd certainly have voted aye on this motion, so much so, that we've loaded up DAVE'S PICKS 49 with not one, but two complete Grateful Dead shows from the Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA 4/27/85 and 4/28/85. The first shows from '85 in the series, these back-to-back hometown performances couldn't be more different while delivering the same level of passion and precision, five hours of it, in fact.

In 1985, the band were celebrating "20 Years So Far," a feat that found them on these particular nights confident with invention in terms of both setlists and playing. There are old songs renewed, rare covers revived, undeniably nuanced Jerry moments, and a few surprises from Brent Mydland too. While it's impossible to select highlights, we can say with certainty that the overall clarity of these shows is unparalleled, courtesy of Dan Healy's recordings.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 49: FROST AMPHITHEATRE, STANFORD U, PALO ALTO, CA 4/27/85 & 4/28/85 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

NEW...

...daP 50 release less than 2 weeks away
...Knopfler release good to hear
...FEAT release OKAY

I laughed out loud at the…

I laughed out loud at the Lenny Hart comment. That's f***ing funny.

Come on 50!

Molly Tuttle

Not sure where else to put this, but should I check out Molly and her band at a small club that holds under 700? I love me some bluegrass.

4-12

1983

4 12 83

What a night! Ya had to be there!
First row, Phil’s new bass, new PA, lights etc, and my first time tripping at a show!

Rasta5: for sure

Molly is the real deal, you will enjoy. If you can, go early, get down front.

Molly on the Moon

Check out Molly Tuttle doing Standing on the Moon, then check out her version of White Rabbit. Both on Yew No Where Tubes. Should make the decision about whether or not to go see her pretty easy.

She's a Rainbow

Also see Molly's version of this Stones song at Ossipee. Their Satanic Majesties music takes me way back to the late 60s, today drencher, it's been JJ Cale's Naturally.

There's no brainers....

....then there's Molly.
You know what you need to do.
Edit.
VGK playoff spot clinched. Now it's just seeding.

Las Vegas was fantastic

I would have looked you up Vguy, but there is no way my beloved would go for connecting with a person I know only online.

LV: there is only one.

I can vouch for Vguy

He's almost as weird as me. We met up at the Rocks two years ago. I witnessed the man high-fiving every single person in his row en route to burning one with me.

Maybe proudfoot's wife would love to meet us both! Under, er, concert conditions...

Yeeeehhhhiiiiii!!!!!!!!!

Hey now!

You be careful there, HF.

yes, concert conditions only

;)))

We are indeed an odd lot on this odd little place of a website

One more LV thing is the show Awakening at the Wynn

Top notch production with a w t f plotline

Born and raised in Vegas....

....moved to Elko (still Nevada), met my wife and drug her back to the heat.
Seen this city morph into pro sports and expansion up into the hills. Traffic is getting exhausting, but first world problems.
Knopflers new record is A+.
Vinyl arrived today.
Even the wife likes it. Bonus points.
That's twice you've come to Vegas Stoltzfus and didn't give me a heads up.
I'm harmless. Unless....
Yeah. I remember your Gov’t name lol.

12/1/66

Find it on that too b thing

Labeled as the 4th but it is the 1st

A treasure

Take my word for it Vguy

It is much better this way

Simply weird to see the changes there

Our first visit was 1990

Hello

Is there anybody in there

Just n o d if you can hear me

Is there anyone home?

3 18 67

Perfect accompaniment for this mornings walk

49

I put 49 back in again before I put the actual discs away, this was a really solid release. I thoroughly enjoyed this one!
The sound, setlists, playing, four discs! And it's an interesting period I think, not alot of exposure. I hope the next one is as much fun...

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Mas Fina!

Thanks

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More eighty five goodness
Mucho Garcias!

04-14

'72
E72 The Complete Recordings, By far my all time favorite release ever.

where...

...there is SMOKE there is Fire, HIGH anticipation for a summer '85 BOX in 2025,
cause, ya know, conception began this month, and
currently weeding out shows for an 8 show box [6/14 thru 9/15]

it's all a dream we dreamed, one afternoon long ago

85 box

I, Too, thought an 85 box set could be in the cards. The main reason being ( we're so jazzed to release more of this great year) part of #49 liner notes. Maybe i'm reading to much into it, who knows.

Like every year, i'm totaly stoked to hear the news regardless of era!!!

Proudfoot's got the idea

They've got a few choice '67 Grease shows in stock. Let's have 'em!

The focus on this special release (in my head) is Pigpen as leader of the GD, so drop the remaining '66/'67 Grease shows on us. Follow that with the remaining Six-Headed '68 Beast shows, including the latest discoveries.

THEN we can settle down to the rest of the Vault. If you question this selection, just think about it. Who the hell cares anymore about '66/'67 Grease? Only the dodderheads who gather here...

Dodderheads

Count me in.

66-68

I'm all for a 66-67-68 box, but more for the lightning than the grease.

Yes no

Yes I’m down with primal faster than ole pig with a seventeen year old, but, like they say on the mountain: if yer gonna go, go big! 66-70!

4/15/70

My favorite show in thirty trips. They apparently used patches from 4 different sources to pull the show together.

4/15/70

4 sources? Masterful editing job, can't tell. Now my question on this show is: is there a third drummer on that funky Drums and Soul Sacrificish Jam before The Other One? Also, I believe this is one of the shows with the Miles Davis Quintet that featured Tony Williams and John McLaughlin. My God, what an unbelievable weekend that must have been.

Edited to add: no McLaughlin or Williams, but Chick Corea, Jack DeJohnette, Dave Holland, Airto Moreira, and Steve Grossman on sax. And it was 4 nights, but April 9-12. Alas. Still they were fresh off that buzzing experience confronting another form of experimental music from a master. And that is one of the better shows in that massive box. '67, '69, '74, and '77 are my other favorites. Not big on the '72 or '73 shows.

4.15.70....

....admittingly it's been a while. Brb.

4/25/77

From the big box. I played that one yesterday, and it is indeed excellent. The Scarlett-Fire, and..especially the spiralling jam from Wharf Rat back into Playing are the highlights.

4/15/70 may be next - although I was so impressed with the 77 show I dibbed into 5/5/77 afterwards. Great Sugaree in the second song first set slot.

4/15/70 W i n t e r l a n d

Alvarhanso - as you noted in your edit (which I didn't catch at first) the 4 shows where Miles Davis Quintet opened for the GD are 4/9 - 4/12 at Fillmore West. 4/15 is first show after that run. If anyone is interested in how the MDQ sounded in that run, the second night, 4/10 was released as Black Beauty: Miles Davis at the Fillmore West, first as a double LP in 1973 (import in US) which seemingly treated the set as one long improv (no proper song titles) and then a CD in 1997 that had actual song titles (I bought the CD a few years ago but can't remember if I knew it was one of "those" shows at the time).

more Miles at the Fillmore

Miles Bootleg Series Vol. 3, from the June shows at Fillmore East, also includes three bonus cuts from the April 11 Fillmore West show.

The Dave's 50 is available…

The Dave's 50 is available for pre-order in the store!

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Joey

Nice work Joey.

Now, where is that box?

50

Is available for preorder!!!! The cover art has a New York feel to it.

50 tracklist

Tracklist
CD 1
Palladium, New York City, NY (5/3/77)
1.PROMISED LAND
2.BERTHA
3.ME AND MY UNCLE
4.PEGGY-O
5.JACK STRAW
6.ROW JIMMY
7.LAZY LIGHTNING>
8.SUPPLICATION
9.DEAL
10.GOOD LOVIN'
11.SHIP OF FOOLS
12.THE MUSIC NEVER STOPPED

CD 2
1.MIGHT AS WELL
2.ESTIMATED PROPHET
3.SUGAREE
4.SAMSON AND DELILAH
5.FRIEND OF THE DEVIL

Palladium, New York City, NY (5/4/77)
6.MISSISSIPPI HALF-STEP UPTOWN TOODELOO>
7.BIG RIVER
8.THEY LOVE EACH OTHER
9.IT MUST HAVE BEEN THE ROSES

CD 3
Palladium, New York City, NY (5/3/77)
1.EYES OF THE WORLD>
2.SPACE>
3.WHARF RAT>
4.DRUMS>
5.NOT FADE AWAY>
6.AROUND AND AROUND
7.UNCLE JOHN'S BAND

Palladium, New York City, NY (5/4/77)
8.DANCING IN THE STREET

50

I think they took it down...

Alvar got the tracklist for proof. lol

#50

I saw it Joey.

Another stealth roll out.

Ari Eyes

Anyone catch Ari referencing deadheads and Eyes of the World this evening?

#50

Now you see me, now you don't.
I agree with Philly Deadhead.
That is a very New York looking cover.
Peace

DMCVT

Yeah, I laughed at his use of "wake up" (I was just resting my eyes, I was not asleep) "to find out"....
He's not just leaving it to the late night comedians to point out the absurdity of it all. Sketch artist even caught him, lol.
Cheers

love...

the STEALIE hood badge on the TAXI...
and how about that FOR HIGHER taxi roof sign "TRIPS"
very COOL graphics on daP vol #50

JRAD and Jazz is Dead, summer in Burl

Local thrill seekers have advised me the early bird advance tix go on sale today for JRAD show on Jerry's birthday, and in early June, current Jazz is Dead iteration featuring Steve Kimock helps kick off Burlington Jazz Fest with a show at Nectars... hmmm seem to recall some other band playing at Nectars back in the day....

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