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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • Oroborous
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    Ahhh Berry interesting

    Jonathan, ok, now we’re getting good intel, I.e., video good but audio not.
    Check out both the audio settings on the DVD and the player, sounds like something not synced right. Also, try the ole hard boot: (with the volume down, ahem) pull the plug on the player…wait a minute, then plug back in, hey, EVERYTHING has micro processing now! Then turn volume up to check.
    Guessing a disc setting since your other discs are ok…?

  • billy the kiddd
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    2024 1969 Box Set

    10/31/69, 6/27 & 28 69 4/5 & 6/69, 5/30/69, makes for a mighty fine box set. Apparently Dave said they decide what these box sets are going to be 2 or 3 years in advance.

  • Gary Farseer
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    Been chillin

    or shopping for chillum

  • Gary Farseer
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    oops

    what oro and colin said, was away from computer a while.

    Bought 65" samsung 4k television on 2020-02-01, arrived that valentine's day. Covid hit and i am immunocompromised due to appendix rupture. So the tv still sits in its box waiting for a friend to come by and help me with it. Hopefully up and running within the next month. I bought it before i truly understood how the makers of tv always have to get to buy the next thing before the next thing is fully realized. Fortunately I got a steal(y) on it, tv, tax, and shipping was $625. Of course any warranty would be almost gone. So I might have an expensive 60 pound box in my house.

  • Gary Farseer
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    4k

    My understanding, and I haven't spent as much time on it as conekid, daverock, etc.

    4k has more to do with size. Isn't it always. That is when you have a 40" hdtv that is all you need is an hdtv. When you move to 55" - 85" (if there is one), you need 4k. When you move to a 90" or above you need 8k. That is, the larger the screen the more you need tight pixelization (new word?). They have been trying to push for 8k tv's for a couple of years now. But if you have a smaller screen you dont need more definition as it is baked in. There is but scant true 4k content and yet to date I have not seen an 8k production to date, but I am not looking much.

    So 35mm film can transfer to much lager screens. Forty something years ago I was working at a movie theater and they showed Raiders of the Lost Ark in 70mm. The film was shot in 70mm, one of few. The theater was the only 70mm theater in a 500 mile radius. We had tourists come to watch in 70mm, and I mean it ran for like 6 months. Tourist travel was shocking. Definition so good you can see Harrison Ford eat the fly in that scene. I can only imagine how good that movie will look in 4k and 8k.

    Mileage may vary, I aint no expert.

    Edit: forty something years ago

  • jonathan918@GD
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    My GD Movie blu-ray and Giants box blu-ray, both play and sound fantastic!!

    Heres to hoping the Winterland 1974 stuff comes out someday

  • jonathan918@GD
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    Thank you

    Thanks for all the thoughts and info on dvd players. Really appreciate it.

    I was frustrated that all my dvd's played but my veiw from vaults would only produce picture but no sound. And strangely enough, when I hit fast foward it would play the audio at that speed??

    Anyhow, I understand some folks having a preference for something different in a dvd player, all though, admittedly, I don't know what!!!

    I'm lost on it, personally

    I guess my point is, to me, this is apperas to be a tatic to make folks repurchase things. Even though nothing is avalible but youtube, which has some decent audio but I would have liked the dvd's to work that I bought.

    Thanks again, gang

  • alvarhanso
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    4K again

    I figured the original source film might be adaptable to upscaling, but you'd have to find the master print. Somehow Criterion Collection found a much better print of Seven Samurai between their first DVD version and the 3 DVD version about 15 years later. That transfer was very much welcomed. I just wonder how many of the 4K transfers are finding master prints to put the work into. Sort of like Plangent has been used on a couple of Dave's if I'm not mistaken, and they probably needed it, if they went through the extra time and expense. But if they tried Plangent on a 4th generation Reel, it's akin to polishing a turd. I could see there being wildly mixed results. I'm okay with the dvds and BluRays I have of Lawrence of Arabia and other epics. If Terrence Malick movies look decent on my screen, I'm definitely good. Which reminds me, Malick released The Voyage of Time in 2016, and it's never had a physical media release in the US, so I had to order a German copy, and it did not play in my Region Free player, so had a buddy rip it for me. That made me think about getting yet another BluRay player. That cycle, she's vicious!

  • Oroborous
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    4K

    Like vinyl, digital etc, can be good IF done right.
    With 4K that means watching on a extra large screen, sitting closer than might be comfortable, and with all other gear with proper settings etc, AND, (this is the big caveat) with good, properly done source material!!
    8Ks even worse in that regard.
    For most folks and on the majority of TVs, in the “average” household viewing situation, they aren’t going to see a big, if even noticeable difference.
    But like anything else, if done properly on a big system it can be good.

    Edit: note, similar fuckery happens sometimes with High Res Music: they just copy lower resolution source to Hi res file, not cool Kyle, not cool!
    Always check the lineage/source when purchasing anything “upconverted” or legacy source material that’s rehashed on a higher resolution format!

    This is also one reason why many early CDs sound like crap and gave digital a bad name. They didn’t use the original higher res source masters, that and conversion (Analog to digital etc). Fortunately, digital, especially conversion and DACs have come a long way and if done right can be amazing!

  • Colin Gould
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    4K resolution

    Looking online 35mm film has an equivalent resolution of around 5.6k. So more than 4k. So 35mm and 70mm films, properly transferred, should look better on 4k screens and players than on standard Bluray. A problem with some ‘70’s programs/shows is that they were recorded direct to video tape which has inherently poor resolution. This is why programmes like ‘Mork and Mindy’ or ‘Soap’ look terrible on big screens. I have no first hand experience of this because I don’t have a 4k player or television but when my current kit dies I will certainly get them, unless 8k becomes more than a niche product.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Thx Icecrmcnkd, that WAS an LP, not a CD. I nabbed a sealed copy.

Maybe I need to get a turntable now.... I can see the domino effect cascading and becoming a vinyl slut.

Oh well, HF

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In case you haven't heard, Real Gone is going to issue a vinyl version of Dicks 12. Which is a killer diller, some of jammiest jams ever. It's a run of only 3000, goes on sale Thursday. You've been warned.

Also, I've been trying (trying and trying) to post something to say how grateful I am to everyone who helped sort out my problem with the defective disc. Thanks Doc, Mary, and everybody else!

And also to thank everyone who sent kind words and good karma after I posted about my mom's dementia the other day. There's some very nice humans around here.

Hope this doesn't get Hey Now'd. To the best of my recollection, I am not now nor have I ever been a robot.

....this slut already spent his allotted record $ this month. Thanks Crow, I guess.
Then again, my birthday is next week.
So I have an excuse teacher.
Just listened to 12 a couple of weeks ago. Stays in semi-regular rotation, as it should be in all of our homes.
BTW, this is what I bought at the record store Sunday after seeing my mom. King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard - Flying Microtonal Banana. Phish - Fuego. My Morning Jacket - Z.
I got a little high last night and was totally absorbed in that Gizzard record. Good stuff.
Careful HF. It's a helluva drug my man.
Edit. Good excuse to get 12 Joey. It's for sale on Real Gone. CD that is if you're not the slutty type.
Edit again because hey nows aren't effecting me yet. My father passed from Alzheimers Crow. It's a rough road that one. Peace.

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Vguy.. sorry to hear about your dad.. think you said he was from Denmark.. my dad died from Alzheimers 8 years ago - maybe it is in the genes here in the North E.U. ? BW to you and familie.. Danehead..

....my step-dad got alzheimers. Married mom when I was five. My real dad was Danish and died in a car accident when I was one. However, good memory danehead. Impressive.
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I had was working with old folks with Alzheimers and other dementia types

Nasty thing, Alzheimers

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... and at all three of the Greek 83 shows ... some of the best times ever. As I sit here today, I STILL recall the Friday Let It Grow ... I was only a year into the Dead and this particular live rendition was just so over the top ... it kept building and building. IMO, it holds up after all these years .... tcc

Thank you Vguy, yeah cd for me or sometimes digital, no vinyl; I need that like a hole in the head. Man, these reissues are expensive, either way I'm looking for one. There are a few Dicks I never got, mostly the compilation types...

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JOEYMC check your pm's....................

My personal hobbies are reading, listening to music, and silence.

Rock on,

Doc
Music comes from an icicle as it melts, to live again as spring water.....

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Problem is, Vguy, I'm already a CD slut, a concert slut, and a just plain slut.

That's the upside....

Cheers, HF in Slutland (should be a board game...)

P.S. Anyone here heading to Joe Russo's Almost Dead at the Rocks, June 1?

P.P.S. My dad went out two years ago with dementia. Anyone suffering from it or being a caregiver has my complete support and best wishes. Truly.

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Really hoping to get this one, trying to be ready precisely at zero hour. Missed DiP 1 by that much. I think 11 minutes, and they were gone like Keyser Soze. But as much as I love that Here Comes Sunshine, I love the China Cat from 6/26/74 more. And my favorite Eyes. Phil's solo is as good as either of Jerry's solos in it that night, and as an encore, it was super tight. Then Phil suddenly at the mic with a hearty, "Good night folks, see ya on Friday!" And that Friday is just a monster. Well the Weather Report Suite - Jams - US Blues, is the real monster. Dark Star hints, Mind Left Body Jam morphs into a proto-Music Never Stopped Jam, and so many peaks and valleys until US Blues meanders out of the ashes. Too bad the most recent DaP vinyl was #2, #34 6/23/74 would have made a killer companion. When that one comes out on vinyl, I will be all over it. Oh, and the etched last side? Wow!

Now, fingers crossed I am able to go into a room and no wifi issues strike, and I am able to get this motha tomorrow at 1pm, EST. And good wishes to all those joining me in the online queue.

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Alvar-there speaks my mind. Slut is a shoddy word, no doubt about that, either.

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is on Amazon currently for 134. I dont know if thats good...

Edit: its actually less on ebay.

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Yesterday was Wavy Gravy's 88th birthday, Happy Birthday anniversary to the pied piper of phun.

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Gave up on a couple posts due to Hey Now, hope it's fixed soon, THANKS MaryE for letting us know. Looking forward to Jims report on JRAD, have tickets to their show August 1, Jerry's birthday in Burlington. Alzheimers, ALS, my heart goes out to those whose families affected, have lost friends and family to both. To say it sucks does not begin to express the devastating effects which many of us know too well.

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134 is a little less than what I ended up paying up paying from a record store online. That's not bad. It's worse right when they're released, then things seem to calm down, until they've been sold out a few years, then they jump above 200. Or so it seems. I saw the Talking Heads RSD release has stabilized and I could probably get it now more reasonably than on RSD almost a month ago. So, I'll wait a little more on that one.

Did anybody pick up Nightfall of Diamonds?

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....I got it. Sounds excellent. I will also be in cue for DiP 12 at 10 AM my time.
Dead & Co start their Sphere residency tonight.

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Let's try this. A certain band about to start a major residency at a particular location has added a VIP perk.
"We will be screening an iconic live ____show...runs for 3 hours." Inside scoop, anyone?

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Ordered.

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.....secured. I feel slutty now. Need a shower.
I'm going June 8th. $250. 300 section.

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Refreshed at 2 minutes to 1and able to add to the cart and check out in a minute. Funny enough, my notification emails came in 2 minutes later. Good luck to everyone else, and I look forward to RGM's usual quick turnaround. I love how they drop the announcement when they're ready to sell and ship. That helps because they will have done quality checks when they have product in hand. They delayed release on one of the DiPs a couple years ago due to a bad pressing, if I recall correctly. And I love they get Mr. Norman to mix and master from the original tapes, unlike the Brookvale releases, which were cut from the digital files. Can't wait to hear that China Cat in full vinyl glory.

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Yup, I've ordered it too. Costs an arm and a leg with shipping costs, but it's one of my favourite Dicks Picks - so it's worth it. No one outside this forum I know would think so, but hey ho.

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I may be $170 poorer, and the records might not sound much, if any, better than the CDs I already own, but by god I am going to thoroughly enjoy listening to that China Rider on vinyl. Along with the rest of it.

Last five!

Sly Stone: Stand
TTB: Best of the Beacon
Sonny Rollins: A Night at the Vanguard*
Ty Segall: Three Bells
Aaron Copland: Symphony #3

*All you vinyl sluts out there might like to know that Blue Note's "Tone Poet" reissue of Rollins' Vanguard material offers a substantial improvement in audio quality over previous issues. Well worth investing in, even if you already own this music. Hey, it's only money, right?

Round and round and round and round, don't take much to get me on the ground

I say yeah yeah yeah

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Getting around to the 5-4 material and bonus. Love the jazz dead intro to Comes a Time. Clearly a highlight in this solid release.
As HF stated elsewhere, a nice box would include the Red Rocks/McNichols 1979 shows. Early Brent kills it!
Cheers

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....Go To Nassau.
That Jack Straw is the most metal sounding I've ever heard Jerry. He shreds it I say!

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Ordered this morning at and checked my email shortly after noon and the shipping notice has already been sent out.

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The movie playing in Vegas during the residency will be Dead and Company: Barton Hall 5/8/23. I might just take that in. I've already paid for it.

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Still available.
Guess not as hot a commodity as DP1.

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....but rather be safe than sorry.
Jam -> US Blues will be here Monday.

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Was surprised and going to post that as well. I literally got shut out of DiP 1 minutes after the onsale, so I'm baffled. Looking at discogs page on Dick's vinyls, the only RGM one I'll be missing is 24 3/23/74 Cow Palace Wall of Sound test. I have none of the Brookvales, but only sad about missing 8 5/2/70 and 4 2/13-14/70. They've chosen some really good ones to put out.

11/10/67 mmmmm, ahhhhhhh in my best Homer Simpson drool.

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