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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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    Miss those guys too. When I lived in downtown Sea (Lower QA - Space Needle neighborhood) and people were coming over I'd say "Do you know where the Tower Records is?" Worked every time, place was 2 blocks away. Think its a parking lot now, boooooo

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    So many ticket purchasing adventures, usually ending with not so great tickets. As a native of southern Wisconsin (Milwaukee and then Madison and college in La Crosse), Alpine Valley shows in the late 80s and early to mid 90s were my go-to.

    It was virtually impossible to get pavilion seats at Alpine at Ticketron outlets. Four times (Clapton 1988, Dead 1989, Stones 1989 and Clapton/SRV 1990), I arrived at the Sears on the west side of Madison with the Ticketron and was 2nd in line-- every time right behind an old friend of mine from my Milwaukee youth (man, I miss seeing Johnny U). Sears would open early for us to get to the window before sale time, the woman would input for best tickets right on time and Johnny U and I never got pavilion seats. Always lawn and man, pavilion seats would have been very welcome in 1989 for both the Dead and Stones.

    I did have a couple of good ticket experiences-- as my family was moving from Milwaukee to Madison in 1987, I wanted to hit one show before my move. Went to the Ticketron to see what I could hit and scored 2nd row to the Kinks (Word of Mouth Tour) at the Riverside Theater a couple of night hence. Awesome show, still love the Kinks, amazing band. Then for Clapton's arena shows in spring 1992, I was in college in La Crosse and scored 11th row for Bradley Center and then 29th row for Target Center in Minneapolis. I found that it could be done, just not for Alpine Valley.

    Glad to see so many like-minded Deadheads voicing frustration with the political decision yesterday, for that is what it was-- it wasn't a legal decision at all. We all need to get out the vote and make sure that felon isn't elected. Hope that wakes up some folks who have been on the fence.

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    As a certifiably Cranky Old Dude, very few things annoy me as much as the fact that in order to buy anything these days you have to download somebody's app. And in order to install the app you have to check the box that certifies that you've read and agreed to the user agreement (which of course you didn't read and wouldn't agree to if you did). Which usually means that you're giving Ticketmaster or whatever company you want to buy from access to all the personal info on your phone, which typically includes your browser history, present location, credit cards, DOB and all kinds of other stuff you don't want everybody and their moms to know. And then eventually the company is going to have a data breach and all that info is in the hands people who aren't very nice.

    I've been part of at least three major data breaches in the past 18 months or so, including Ticketmaster. All I can do is set up credit alerts on Experien and hope the thieves are focused on richer people than me.

    And while I'm ranting? Let's take a moment to notice that ***** has already invoked presidential immunity to postpone sentencing in the hush money case. Mind you, the felonious actions involved all took place BEFORE he was elected, and yet somehow he is still allowed to claim presidential immunity.

    OK. I'm done.

    It's incredibly hot in NorCalright now, and I'm heading for the Marin coast for a couple days, blaring the GOGD the whole way. Stay kool my friends.

    One way or another, this darkness got to giiiiiiiive ....

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    Ok Wayne Shorter is pre-ordered on Amazon. I checked on Blue Note site,,,, got for a buck or two cheaper from amazon AND free shipping on release day. Amazon almost always has it here the day of release.

    Also, though not my favorite stuff, I ordered The Warning's latest album per V-Man. Told my son, metal with good vocals :-).

    So a quick money flush this morning!

    Thanks guys!

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    Thanks for the heads up about blue note and wayne shorter.

    Thanks for the comments about less than supreme court,,,, sometimes political comments are needed.
    If I understand correctly, biden can now kill have the court and it's ok if it's "official".

    Time to kill ticketbastard. My buddy tries to buy all his tickets at box offices (when possible)

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    More guv ment sanctioned, legalized stealing.

    BITD we had to somehow first get to this department store that had ticketbastard.
    AM&As or Hens & Kelly, forget)
    We’d be lined up outside waiting for them to open.
    Of course they’d open late, then we’d have to dash through the store and up the escalator to the office, then wait for those ladies to wake up and get the ancient computers going…by the time they’d be ready, half the seats would be gone and you’d always have to deal with “you want tickets for where?” Especially if in another state…by the time the whole process was finished you’d be lucky to get anything lol.
    Yeah, thank goodness for Good Old GDTS (thanks again to that whole crew for all you did!) !
    Didn’t usually get good seats, but only got shut out once in 17 years!

    Edit: Hey Mike! Agree, similar thoughts about DG/Dead and this sweet new GarciaLive21

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    You cite one of BD's best-ever statements

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    Boycott TM

    I cant think of a single show I'd want to go to anyway, but even if I did want to, I would not because I don't appreciate being ripped off.

    Old Man Jenkins sez...

    "I remember when a Rex benefit was $25 and I thought, well, at least that extra money is for a good cause".

    Pricing plus TM equals me not attending.

    Now where's that box set? I WILL give GD my money for that.

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    Was announced May 31.
    I posted here shortly after that.
    Just now getting around to telling their customers. Check your card accounts frequently.
    Good luck

    Ledded: How was that Stones/ Widespread concert? Anyone else see this tour?

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    Dennis and other jazz collectors in the Dead sphere - Blue Note has a 2 cd/vinyl collection coming of the late great Wayne Shorter in August entitled “Celebration - Volume 1” (a tip off there may be more to come). This is “live” recordings from WS and his crack band from 2014 (a tour I saw), and a better legacy release than the not so great Detroit Jazz Festival release that came out shortly after his passing. The latter is a hard pass IMO.
    While giving GarciaLive 21 a fresh listen, it struck me how complimentary Donna Godchaux was to Jerry’s solo work when she was in his band, as Jerry tended to play a pretty select group of soulful slow numbers that lent itself to her vocal range, semi-Gospel sound. I was not a great fan of her overall work with the Dead, with some exceptions, but the solo Jerry releases in which she (and Keith) were in the band, tend to be an excellent band.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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11 23 79
6 22 83

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Is for those shows from the Ark in 1969 to finally get released. Don't care if it's in a box set, or a DaP, or what, but them shows need to be OUT. Iconic performances, good sound, Come on, Dave! What's the holdup, maaaaan?

I ain't a-scared of no AI. Those guys can't even tell the difference between a crosswalk and a motorbike.

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Illogical for it to be anything else.

Wanna move product? Look how fast 73' sold.

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I would love BTK's 69 box!!!

On a side note, still looking at glass bongs, chillums, and recently where to buy some b l o n d e h a s h.

Wow what I paid $60/ounce for decades ago, now is $369. Guess that makes sense due to mandatory inflation built into the system. But online they have some incredible sales. Wonder how safe to buy? Just not sure...

Thanks Jim, it is good to be posting more. I am like a lot of others, only post on a fraction of what I see. So many around here are deep officianados in music, dead and other, smoke, smoke systems, etc. What a great place to learn and be lead from darkness to light!

Already sold out 3 more shows at Red Rocks. That takes them to around (havent checked) 69 sold out shows in a row. Just amazing. Cant remember actual capacity of RR, but think around 10,000 maniacs. They have held the record for a long time, and just keeping adding sold out shows. Can they ever be caught?

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HDTV resolution is really, for simplicity sake, just a difference in the number of lines making up the picture, or the total number of pixels making up the picture - DVD has 480 lines of resolution, Blu-Ray has 1080 lines, and “4K” has 2160 lines. More lines should make a smoother picture, but at some point your eyes become the limiting factor as at a certain distance you can’t distinguish between 1080 lines and 2160 lines The closer you are to the screen, the more noticeable the difference will be, the bigger the screen the more noticeable the difference will be. Think of pictures in newspapers in newsprint - at a small scale and from a reasonable distance the picture looks smooth, like a photo print, and you can’t distinguish the individual dots that actually make up the picture. But if you get close to the picture, or blow it up to a larger size with the same number of dots making up the picture, the picture starts to look more like a collection of dots and less like a photo. The more dots you have to make up the picture, the larger you can expand the picture, and the closer you can get without your eyes noticing the individual dots, like a pointillist painting.

The real advantage of the HDTV and now the HDR feature is the incredible color array. Your HDTV can image an immensely greater color range than your old color TV, even if it was a Sony Trinitron, and you can see fantastic color from any distance.

If a new player doesn’t work with your DVD’s you might want to see if there is a firmware update, since as noted, everything has a chip. I got a new CD player in the last couple years and it initially had trouble playing some of the usual suspects (DaP28, cough) and after a simple firmware update the same player has played everything flawlessly. Knock on wood.

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WsP hit 67 last year. So #70 just topped. That is a lot of shows.

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No box in June, I guess..

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As an aside, 30+7 years ago now would have entering parking lot at Ventura's County Fair grounds. Really nice Sunday afternoon show.

This was 2+ hours ago, try again

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Charlie with the firmware reminder.
Yes, often overlooked.
Why?
Because we don’t read the manual.

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At the end of today’s Bulletin:

“Not to mention 6/20/80 in Anchorage”

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So icecrmcnkd mentioned "an Oakland '91 box" (I believe as a nice-to-have, and not a rumored release) and I'm assuming this was a reference to the October run. But in '91 there's also the three-night midweek stand at Oakland in February, as well as the final NYE run. And despite the NYE run being the last such event, I rarely play any of those shows, whereas I do include 2/21/91 in my rotation as well as 2/20 sometimes (which has Olatunji, and a massively long set II. 2/19 ofc is famous for the NSB breakout after 20 years...)

Just wondering if anyone else has thoughts on this. It seems like an eleven-night box from 1991 is too big, and even seven nights is probably too many given that the MSG box set has struggled to sell. As well, if they're really going to do a '91 box, Summer is probably the sweet spot for really consistent, high-intensity shows. Worth pointing out, too, that Bruce Hornsby didn't come out for either February or December. But the thought of wrapping up a year of Oakland in one package seemed interesting... for example, I could also see "best 2 of out of 3 or 4 nights" working, with Halloween as the centerpiece.

Seems unlikely in any case, but I saw a lot of 1991, so it intrigues me strangely...

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That’s what I want.
Don’t know if it’s doable because of guests.

It’s not just MSG, STL Box is still available too.
That’s why a ‘91 Box is needed, helps span the years ‘71, ‘81, ‘91.

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Heard that a while ago on discs from my man Craig

They didn't seem that great

I loaned them to a former coworker and away they went after I abruptly left that gig.

A Full Norman of the run I am certain would bring out the shows' charms

:)))

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54 years ago today the Grateful Dead released Working man's Dead. My favorite Dead album, in fact I think its the greatest record of all time. An absolute masterpiece.

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i know its about the the music, but just got new JGB 2/13/76 and so glad they have an actual art direction that fits the music.

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Set lists

Same after same

Observation not a gripe

"Yeah, the boy can play"

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39 years ago this weekend( along with a lot of other great people who post here on this forum) I was up in Berkeley at the Greek Theatre having an absolute blast with the Good old Grateful Dead. Killer shows, lets get that complete Greek Box Set out there. Stopped at Everett & Jones Bbq on the way home.. Big fun!

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....has been paying attention to the D&C Sphere posters.
All incredibly incredible.
So incredible. They deserve a rare double post lol.

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First off, DaP 50. 5/3 solid, 5/4 bonus material looks great on paper but not my favorite '77 show. Jer sounds a little tired and more interested in playing than singing but rallies for Comes a Time.

Regarding the new JGB, anyone else notice the absurd amount of screams (same one or two guys) recorded on Keystone 2/13/76? Absolutely ruins TLEO and badly dings a couple other tracks. I'm all for hearing it like it was and all but I would also be ok with someone cleaning that crap out of the recordings. It's one thing when fans are into it, another when the screamers seem to be purposely and aggressively inserting themselves into the scene in quiet moments.

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Didn't know they had this one, but George Strait last night had 110,905 paying ticketholders at his show at Texas A&M's football stadium, breaking a record for single concert attendance held by the Grateful Dead for Englishtown 9/3/77, which had 107, 019. Don't see anybody ever coming close to breaking the Watkins Glen record.

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Gotcha icecrmcnkd - and good point, I forgot about Gary Duncan being there on Halloween. And Santana on the 27th. Were there others...? Anyway, that would complicate licensing.

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Right on BTK!!! This iconic west coast venue deserves special recognition (IMO) .... A Greek Box is way over due! Selfishly, 82-87 please!!! With special recognition for the Fri 13th Dark Star in 84..... Unquestionably some of the best times of my life .....tcc

I've seen people yell because they're kind of overcome with emotion at what they are hearing or seeing, and I smile.
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This is how I interpret the sounds on New Jerry.

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49 years ago today, I was up in the balcony at Winterland having a fantastic night with the Good old Grateful Dead. It was a memorial concert for Bob Fried the poster artist. The advertisement listed Keith & Donna Band, Kingfish, and Jerry Garcia and friends. Kingfish blew the roof off the joint they were fantastic. Then out came the Dead to be introduced by Bill Graham, the place was electric. They opened with Crazy Fingers , still my favorite version. What an absolute knockckout of a night. Fun times!

After what Jonathan said I decided to check my DVD’s in my new 4K player.
So far DVD’s 1-3 played fine, no issues.
The video quality is far better than on the DVD player I originally had 10+ years ago. So, thumbs up to upconverting.

Decided to spin the 6-17-91 Blu-ray tonight since it’s the anniversary.
Looks good and sounds good.

More video please Dave.

Oh man.. it almost hurts to read some of the gems you got to see.

Glad you were there, glad you remember so much. If I could go back in time I would live vicariously through your eyes and know I have lived a life fulfilled. Holy smokes, some truly special shows. Thanks for sharing.

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I gave it an archive listen this evening

Yummy

Thank you for the reference BTK

You were there? The envy is all mine

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Disc 1 skipped from track 3 onwards. The further it went, the worse it got and at least the last half was totally unlistenable.

Today a replacement disc arrived and it plays through without a single skip. It's great to finally hear it as it's a fine first set.

Big thanks to MaryE and Mac for sorting it out and getting the replacement disc to me.

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Only posting the following comment at this thread as someone earlier here noted a wish to officially put out a certain show with a dash of AI magic to remove 1 particular screamer in the audience. Well, unfortunately that would've also been welcome with the new JGB vol 21 release.

There's 1 guy who makes the same sound over & over again that sounds like a Neanderthal being caught off guard by some animal ramming him in the nuts. It's more off putting in that this gig is super chill. So he bellows time & again at the most unusual quiet times of a beautiful harmony with Donna Jean or Jer's sweet, slow picking.

Putting aside our Neanderthal in the crowd, some may see this slowed down tempo as plodding. I tend to hear it as adding some more sweetness if you know what I mean.

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blech and blech again

Radio version of 6 19 76

between songs some yutz

"AYAYAYAYAYAYAAA!!!"

repeat frequently

And then theres 6 28 85

And 1 21 71

And

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That's great to hear @Simonrob - last year at about this time, those two esteemed personages + Mr. Dave Lemieux himself were rescuing me from the saga of my twice-stolen Dave's 46. Mac finally put a copy into a mailer and shipped it to me himself. Got it just after the 4th of July.

and @Proudfoot I was in the same spot, had to listen to some '91 after all this discussion. I just got done with 8/16/91. But now I need to get out that Giants Stadium box and go back two months farther...

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