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  • #6651
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    You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)

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    So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
    Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
    So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
    So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
    Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
    The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
    Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
    As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
    So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
    Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
    That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
    So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

    EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!

  • #6653
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    Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

    I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

    To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

    One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

    Peace

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    Bode Miller...

    First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
    Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

    SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
    Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
    While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
    Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
    6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

    So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
    FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....

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    If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t

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    Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

    Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

    I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

    Tell us more.

    And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

    I agree, it always sounds great to me.

    Enjoy party people!

  • #6657
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    We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
    BS CORP
    WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.

  • #6658
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    Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
    Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
    hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
    So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
    Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
    Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
    Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
    But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
    Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
    Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
    I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
    So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
    Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
    Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
    Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!

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    JimInMD
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    but there are black clouds building on the horizon here. Looks like a thunderous day on the river is in store for me. Got my waterproof device loaded with 6/27/85, thanks to the gentle steering of the GOGD.

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    Ran into a rainstorm, indeed!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

I was looking over the weekend at jerry's brokedown palace, and I was looking at Mar's Hotel stuff. Just reviewing pictures again. Noticed someone had posted a "Mars Hotel" float with skeleton in top hat on top.

Never seen that before, assuming it has to be from a NYE show but can't find it in deadbase. It is tagged with gd.nye....

Any ideas?

Also has pick of the band at the mars hotel, looks like in a library watching tv. Dated 1974-06-27

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 06/18/2024 - 19:37

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They are playing the crap out of 1976 on the GD Channel on Satellite Radio the last two weeks.

I get the feeling they are stalking us.

I do think of all the unreleased box set quality stuff that remains unreleased, there is comparatively more '71, '73 and '76 than most other years (an honorable mention to '89). '69 is an obvious omission but I am not sure all the shows sound quite as good and are necessarily box set slam dunks. The other years with 'grate' recording quality have been pretty heavily mined.

I'm sure I glossed over some pockets of goodness, would love to hear others thoughts. If you listen to the last seventy six box, the recordings are really, really good. We know there are more there, unless our crack team of diggers has successfully tunneled under the vault, broken through the concrete and loaded the unreleased master tapes in the back of my truck.. in which case they all will get released this year starting with the Banana Box Set, 66 through January 1970, the complete recordings.

Still working through Baltimore '73, this year takes me three or four days to give it a good listen. I bet 1973 shows on average are longer than any other year.

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The reason I'm bolo24 and not some other number. Best I ever saw.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 06/19/2024 - 06:43

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Great to see you again. Had wondered where are you.

I have been so far away from news I didn't even know about Mr. Mays passing. Wish I could have seen him.

Cheers

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 06/19/2024 - 14:18

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Hola Bolo,

Good to see you again. Hope they haven't been working you too hard wherever it is you have been hiding out.

mmm... running your post through my All New A.I. Enabled Box Set and Dave's Picks Decrypter, Chat GD

If I simply plug Bolo24 into the system, this is what I get:

B = 2nd letter in the alphabet
O = 12th letter in the alphabet
L = 15th letter in the alphabet
O = 12th letter in the alphabet
24 = 24

2 + 12+15+12+24 = 65

65 -> 6/5 = June 5th

So we are getting a mini box set of shows played on June 5th

Shows on June 5th are:

06/05/69- Fillmore West - San Francisco, CA
06/05/70- Fillmore West - San Francisco, CA
06/05/80- Compton Terrace Amphitheater - Tempe, AZ

In the spirit of this prediction, I suggest 6/5/80 be the next pick of the day.

Thanks Bolo

edit: Still working on Baltimore 73 the sister show to the Spectrum 73 Dave's Pick. Made it through the first set.

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You're flying a little too close to the sun. Some things of a cryptic nature are best left alone.

Please pardon my absence as I've been involved in some pretty heavy backroom negotiations for the upcoming election. No, not that one - the election on June 28.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 06/20/2024 - 20:21

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Baltimore! What a show Jim.
Really good recording. First set is sort of the standard for March 73. The El Paso, China Rider stood out to me with Jerry's guitar work and then the Playing to close the first set. Really good.
Second set is a monster. The He's Gone Truckin, WRS prelude which had a great Jerry Jam, into Eyes is so good. Very relaxing. Oh and finish it up with a Morning Dew and OMSN.
Loved it. Good call Jim.

This show should be released at some point you would think.

Any news on this year's Box Set Bolo?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 06/20/2024 - 21:37

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Spring 73 has to be on their radar. If they can fit it on three discs all the better. I always liked Philly and Baltimore about the same so one would think it's on the release radar.

So how about 6/5/80 next? I had never listened to it before and it's got a surprise or two. Plus it's mere mention got me in trouble with Bolo (again). Clearly there's something hidden in the music that the Mullah's do not want us to enjoy.

Edit: Looks like there's only a soundboard for the second set. Surprise arrangement for the China Rider opener. There is a special place for shows where both sets do not exist, I have to think there's release potential for some or most of these.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 06/21/2024 - 05:48

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6/5/80 it is. Will get this one going later today. Thanks for keeping it going Jim.

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Fudge, just got Hey Nowed on a long post…Murphy’s law?

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 06/21/2024 - 15:03

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Private Spacley checking in from the wild lands of weird!
Baltimore 73, fo sure, yet another awesome 73 sequence, and a second set Candyman too! Always dig HCS!
One could most def argue for a spring box, but I still think the first six shows of the year are the hidden jewel…summer, meh, has big hype shows, but imho the music isn’t as good as the rest of the year, good but…and the fall/winter, sigh…Top Shelf where mama hides the cookies! Or RJ

I’ve hit 6/5/80 also on my quest, or fools errand? Lol. I definitely dug it, but perhaps a half step behind the previous from the land of Vikings and Deadvikes !

But, I’m here more to cannonball into the middle of your nice enjoyable flow to report from the wild weird west and Wonderland too.
Apologies for my side show Bob shit show side trips, but hey, maybe there’s some freak out there who’ll get something outta my frontier adventures?

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So half way through the year, which I’ve been focusing on shows I haven’t heard from,
Primary: 84 and 94, and
Secondary: 69, 79, and 89

So 69 I’m up to November (all the SBs, not many AUDs), 79 I’ve hit all but 1 or 2?, and 89 I’ve only December left, but I need to revisit August in sequence.
Summer 94 has been a very pleasant surprise! I’m finding the dreaded later years aren’t so bad removed from set and setting situations etc of seeing shows then, as well as being able to finally get better aquatinted with the newer material, which doesn’t bother me near as much, though that chorus on Long Way Home will probably always be annoying lol. Also, three decades has allowed me to catch up with the “industrial” sound lol.
Though I wouldn’t say anything really was RJ, the consistency etc was much better than I expected. I should mention, I’ve done summer tour complete and just a few miscellaneous, including finally hitting the very fine Boxilla show on 10/1. From what I’ve heard so far I think Dave went to the right house for this one, though the Palace shows, some of Deer Creek, say first or second night of Shoreline, really every stop had at least one show, with most at least decent/good. Only recall third night of Shoreline was sub par with Jer having some vocal flubs. Perhaps the best I heard was from 6/17/94 even though it was an Aud. Think Bluecrow suggested this back aways?
Awesome rave spaces throughout!
So if your not a feared and have an open mind, I think there’s some enjoyable shows. They make a great palate cleanse, especially when/if gettin burned out on certain songs etc! And, though the occasional mellowness would of turned me off BITD, now in my sixties, gulp, I find these a nice alternative similar in that sense to 76.

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1984: I’ve made up to Summer tour, which starting on I’m on today, starting with my 40th anniversary of my first time seeing the boys in a foreign country lol.
Really, in those pre 911 days, for us locals it was more like going to the next county, or state. 6/21/84, complete with THE Band opening, Wavy Gravy, and Kesey was a blast and definitely a good show, but not RJ.
So my buddy Tree drove us in his lil Bug and we both dropped at the exact international point on the bridge
(hey if they gave us one of the occasional quick search’s we had nothing in our possession, with plenty of good black hash etc at the show, and we’d be back on the road before things started getting weird)
so a few hours later, by the time we got there things were definitely getting interesting! I always mix this one up with 87 as our mo etc was very similar.
But for those who don’t know, the venue was within Canadas Wonderland amusement park. So having to enter in the middle of FAMILIES!!!, ya know, normal people and children! And, all while being in the middle of what seemed like we were in the middle of the real life Flintstones as everything seemed like some kind of Disney land plastic stone prehistoric village lol. I distinctly recall LMAO after getting in and over the fear, thinking, I’m in a Flintstones episode lol. Hey, the fear was real man ; )
I’m Onto 6/23 as I type, betting Jim was there? Started out kinda ruff but creeping into it, it’s picking up nicely.
Won’t rehash all of 84 as I’ve previously posted, except just to say similar better overall than expected, with plenty of good ones in April, and the Rocks, especially 6/13, perhaps one of the years best?
Ok, going native again, sorry for the intrusion, hopefully somebody gets something outta it lol.
ONWARD! And back to your regularly scheduled POTD!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/21/2024 - 19:15

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Not a very memorable show, I liked the 83 show there a little better. Chill venue though.. we had a good time. I think between the bunch of us we could not put the setlist together after the show. Perhaps this shows our state of mind...

Merriweather was a few days away and they were much better shows which unfortunately let this one slip from memory into the ravages of time.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sat, 06/22/2024 - 05:37

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Morning, rockers!!

For anybody interested in such things, a "new & improved" copy of May 31, 1969 just hit general circulation, courtesy of the kind folks at the GEMS network. Definitely worth a listen and thank you very much!!!

Some people never go crazy, what truly horrible lives they must live.....

Rock on!

Doc
Out of my mind, back in five minutes............

Was there,,,, mostly I remember the bridge you had to walk across. My records show we thought Black Peter was the hit of the day. Playing Eyes right now,,, not a bad recording,,,, but a FAST Eyes.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 06/22/2024 - 08:56

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Looks like a cool venue.
Didn’t get the best listen of 84, but Felt like it was a creeper and really liked the space with that 100’ tall bullfrog of Jers, from then out was good. I agree Jim, like 83 better. Always been a favorite since it was one of the best sounding tapes I ever had. Buddy found new awesome tape source, but then just as suddenly lost it, as my buddy knocked up his boss at the worm farms daughter and after the (white wedding) ,no more soup for him as they were ultra religious lol. Still kicking myself for not getting the sources number!
Best it gets better, they hired us to play at the wedding reception.
So clueless freaks we were, we bring all our McIntosh amps, JBL speakers, racks of gear etc (basically same stage gear as the boys at the time) to this little fire hall. Of course we dressed up; I had my best pocket tee shirt, Levi corduroys and desert boots on lol.
So late, and high like usual, we set up and prep and the shrooms are kicking in and we finally get on stage and tune up and 1,2, 3, and turn around and step to the mic and HOW SWEET IT IS TO BE LOVED BY YOU, (figured good wedding opener) and as I finally start to realize the reality of the situation were in as I stare at the mostly old, conservative, suit wearing crowd, now glaring back at us lol, well, it was definitely an interesting evening to say the least lol.
Just glad I didn’t get the fear onstage!
But it gets better. Somehow, music for the trad dances etc was never contemplated by anyone, hey we were hippie musicians not wedding planners lol. So during set break we panicked and somehow somebody got a tape deck that we integrated into the PA and the drummer found an Eagles tape in his car.
So we think, Peaceful Easy feelings a nice song, that’ll work for the new couple to dance to. (Can’t remember what the father daughter dance was).
So eventually things had mellowed a bit as the civilians loosened up a little and we figured out where we actually were and tried to adjust accordingly lol, and so the dances are going well and then eventually the new couple starts swaying to the mellow vibes of Peaceful Easy Felling as the crowd all smiles looks on, and then…ooops, the line “I want to sleep with you in the desert tonight”…Doahhh Right back in the dog house with the old conservative church crowd once again staring daggers at us, like “yeah ya stupid freaks, that’s what got us here in the first place”!

For sure one of the weirdest gigs ever, and the last we ever saw of old Druggels again, poor bastard: no more fun, no more Dead especially or rock and roll at all, prolly still working at the worm farm!
How we used to race around and be in all these crazy situations while tripping amazes me all these years later? Guess practice makes perfect lol.

5/31/69, good sheet, really enjoyed that one, will have to check out the upgrade.
But first I’m onto Toga!
Onward!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 06/22/2024 - 10:12

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There has to be a VHS of that wedding party somewhere, I want to see it.

If it does surface, Oro, this could seriously jeopardize your career in politics.

Truth be known, nobody strives to become a worm farmer. Most just marry into it.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sat, 06/22/2024 - 11:49

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And Jim and DMC, bada-bing!
Very funny stuff you guys.
Keep bringing the good stuff now that the HN police are easing up some.
Cheers

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Submitted by uncle_tripel on Sun, 06/23/2024 - 06:59

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...yeah, 2 hour drive to harrisburg listening to the newly taped FM broadcast of WONDERLAND of CANADA show and ready for a great afternoon in the sun, several friends (3 car loads) would plan to meet, one car "alabama toot-away", one car packed with coolers of cold beer, another car "up in smoke". walking through the city enroute to the bridge to take us into the middle of the river, hey look over there at that guy passed out under the tree, damn he sure does look like our friend Chumpweed...keep walking, he would never miss Garcia by over indulging in the early afternoon. Next day, everyone safely back in town and meeting up at a friend's apartment to rap about the show...hey Chumpweed, what did you think of the show? ah, man I passed out under a tree and missed the whole show.....

I remember most the opener: toot-away, a fun tmns to end 1st set, eyes, black peter, gdtrfb; and yeah it was a speedy GOGD event, and most unique venue to have seen the band.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Mon, 06/24/2024 - 04:45

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Morning rockers!!!

Can it really be 40 years ago that we stood in the rain at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center and enjoyed a fun Dead show, rain and all?!! Got drenched on the motorcycle ride down from Canada, but we kept our doses dry. Those were the days!!!

Decent soundboards are out there, worth a listen.......

We should not look back unless it is to derive useful lessons from past errors, and for the purpose of profiting by dearly bought experience.....

Rock on,

Doc
One must always maintain one's connection to the past and yet ceaselessly pull away from it.......

So why not.. SPAC 84 virgin listen.

They played the beginning of the City Island show the day before on Today in GD History. I think I have one cursory listen a couple decades ago when I discovered Archive.Org. Jerry's voice is a big haggard on a few songs (thinking Peggy-O for example), which seems to continue on through to SPAC.

SPAC is one of my many GD regrets. I never made it there and could have. I am particularly fond of the 85 show. Now which one of you was dangling from the balcony that night? never mind.. you'll never admit it, but you know who you are.

Got a medium size hornets nest in my attic that needs to go before while summer is young. I think my attic fan is shot too. The exterminator is charging too damned much so I am going to brave this adventure tonight. Wish me luck (balanced with how much could it really hurt anway).

What should I play for the dancing bees 🐝 to give me an edge? A good meltdown space, a rockin' Fire in the attic or Dancing in the Hive?

Edit: Jerry's a little rough or Dire Wolf but recovered nicely by the time the Candayman came around. Similar to the rough start the night before but improving, apparently, as the night progressed.

Edit 2: Finished this while cleaning the house. They did pick up steam as the night progressed. Vocals notwithstanding, a high energy Bertha helped pull things together, the highlight for me being the PITB>China Doll. The Other One was typical for the era but good, a soulful Wharf Rat reigned them back to the finish line with a well paired double encore that would a smile on anyone's face as they walked through gates realizing they have no idea where they left their car (or bike).. but who really cares anyway.

Nice tales from the Road Doc. Creates a little visual and context for the listen.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Mon, 06/24/2024 - 08:03

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Hey hey hey................

As a certain Mr Pen used to say, "Baby I ain't no balcony hanger!"..........

The 1985 SPAC show was the only Dead show I ever attended solo. Beautiful day, rode out on the bike, camped out on the lawn, had some green leafy material, just enjoyed the heck out of the whole experience!

Early the next morning set out for Hershey. Got soaked on the way, but hey, when you're on a bike and you get soaked, you can't get any wetter. My best friend and my brother---both bikers---were supposed to ride down and met me there and we'd ride back together. LOL they chickened out. It rained, but we kept the blow dry. Another enjoyable and noteworthy experience..........

Rode back solo the next day, those were the days!

Rock on!!!

Doc, paperwork day!
Youth has no age.....

Hey Jim, no question, play Airto Moreira and the Gods of Jazz recordings Killer Bees, or Revenge of the Killer Bees. Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Stanley Clarke early fusion, like Weather Report but different, very interesting, under the radar stuff. For treatment, instead of toxic spray, Dr. Bronners peppermint castille in cool water, soak that nest from safe distance with a hose end sprayer on a cold morning . Bees, wasps etc hate peppermint and soap being surfactant, gets under their exoskeletal shells. Once the nest is soaked a time or two, they will abandon.

Doc you were there? I normally don't spend time feeling envious, but this is one of those shows where I sure wish I coulda been there. After all these years it is still a show I'll listen to any day, any time. There's something for everyone: Weir was absolutely on, Healy with his bag of tricks, Phil on mad bombing runs (and that Tom Thumb's!!), drummers on point all night long, Brent so colorful and out in front (and just a demon on the organ), and I run out of superlatives to talk about Garcia's performance this day.

Really,
Unless you were there, you’ll never fully grasp this show. (Toga 84)
One of our best GD experiences, right up there with Oxford 88!
In a word: ELECTRIC! The weather, crowd, vibe, cannot KNOW this show without all that.
The Dancin in the Streets is pretty much the theme song for this show.
Started the day before and didn’t stop until the next day.
(I’ll share some more stories separately)
Yeah the vocals are ragged on Dancin, but have been on every show opener on this tour so far. Dire Wolf has a little cocaine gargle but it’s not that bad?
Minglewood is off the fuggin charts! Seriously, (besides Bobs slide solo going on to long and the unfortunate mandatory screaming badger being tortured noise) it’s a monster! And from there things just keeps on growing.
Wonderland was good, but polite, which makes sense considering national radio coverage in two countries along with very pricey tickets (Seva Benefit).
City Isle started out ruff, but creeped to where I felt the Drumz onward was good, but,…, but Toga…Insane!
I’m sure the environment/vibe/energy or what not was so intense the band would have felt it, probably before arrival lol
And they sure seemed to rise to it: going hard for it and having just as much fun as us, well, almost lol. Not only could you feel it, you could see they were way into it!
I think the only critique I can make about this show was, too much energy. They were so jacked up on the vibe (on top of everything else; ) that at times I think over enthusiasm led to not always being just exactly perfect. Hard to describe, they generally played well, just not so perfect, if that makes sense?
I’m onto Blossom currently, the third show we hit that summer, and so far it’s ok, but..kinda laid back after the opening volley of tour ragers.
Oh, yeah, Merriweather I rehashed and they’re similar: start out ragged, but look out, the rocket lifts off and burns baby burns. Again, hot but excess sometimes perhaps leads to occasional less than perfect moments, but good shows if not RJ. Summer tour 84,
Onward!

Can’t imagine those shows on a bike. The rain was what helped make both those shows so fun, but in 85 by the next day we’d had enough, (even before Hershey lol) and we weren’t on bikes! But hey, the adversity usually helped make good shows great!

Edit: added my story to the 6/24/84 show page if anyones interested.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Mon, 06/24/2024 - 16:52

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2/23/93 - Mardi Gras with Ornette Coleman. Our group of friends had a float in the parade (kind of a long story). Our "Acme Krewe" was listed at the bottom of the poster for that show.

As usual, I will categorically deny posting here today.

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Submitted by marye on Tue, 06/25/2024 - 09:38

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Good to see you.
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Submitted by bolo24 on Tue, 06/25/2024 - 11:18

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A bit of synchronicity. I recently re-read Vonnegut's "Sirens Of Titan" and did some googling to see if anyone was still pursuing bringing it to the silver screen. What should pop up but your interview with Garcia in 1987 discussing that very topic!

By the way, I certainly enjoyed meeting you a few years back in San Jose. Hope all is well with you.

"Shall we go, you and I while we can, through the chrono-synclastic infundibulum?"

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Wed, 06/26/2024 - 04:44

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Morning, rockers!!

You can probably imagine what I listened to on my morning commute...........

Can it really be 50 years since we had our minds blown at the Providence Civic Center???!!!

It was my high school graduation present from my brother. He & his best friend took me & my best friend (that was his first show, can you imagine that?!!). Cosmic music, killer sound system, clean 25, sign us up, we're on the bus!! For life!!!

The nice surprise Big River show opener, the way cool, very bouncy, jammy, stand alone Scarlet Begonias, yes The Race Is On, fine Half Step, we Let It Grow, second surprise US Blues to open set two, tremendous China/Rider, great Truckin', fine Other One big jam, a touch of the Spanish theme, and of course the major major surprise, once-in-a-lifetime Eyes Of The World encore. A night to remember, and yes I do!!!

Best show I ever saw. We wouldn't see another of this kind for ten years, but that's a story for October. You know what I mean............

There is not one big cosmic meaning for all, there is only the meaning we each give to our life, an individual meaning, an individual plot, like an individual novel, a book for each person........

Rock on,

Doc
Shine like the day I set cosmic eyes on you, friend, by the light of the sweet squash in my lovely laser broom.....

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 06/26/2024 - 11:29

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Very good recording of a nice late era show. The highlight for me was Space>The Other One with Ornette but all in all the show is balanced, clean and well played.

As for 6/26/74, all I can say is more. More 74. I'm hitting that now as I do a little yardwork on the lazy river road I live on. Cleaning the house is next. It takes a good, jazzy 1974 classic to get through housework without becoming grumplestilkskin. And the house is a little trashed so make it a good, long show and tomorrow will be a brighter day.

Clean 25 and a show like that. Certainly a pivotal moment in time for those involved.

Yeah, that was a time, back at the academic fest, and it was great to meet you too. And in any case, glad to see you back here.
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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 06/27/2024 - 04:59

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Hey rockers! And ICECRMCNKD.....

No, we were not at the 28th. We SHOULD have done the Providence-Boston-Springfield thing, but lol at that stage in our lives we were very green and the idea of going to more than one show on a tour would have been far outside our conceptual framework........

Ten years later, was much different.............

Small opportunities are often the beginning of great enterprises.......

Rock on,

Doc
The universe hands you opportunities for a while, and if you don't take them, the universe says to itself, 'Oh I see, this person doesn't like opportunities' and stops giving them to you.....

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Thu, 06/27/2024 - 11:39

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Pulled this show off the shelf for today and the rewards have been BIG!!

I'm knee deep in this colossal Playing In The Band right now!!

Break it out, if you haven't heard it in awhile

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 06/27/2024 - 12:37

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Interesting show
Especially all those new&1st songs, since I recently did summer tour 94 which illustrates nicely how all those tunes matured. Pretty decent Ist versions, one might even add better than some well known past firsts…
And of course OC, did he sit in any other time?
If so I need to check out! Good Sheet Mon!
Overall decent matrix, perhaps a little heavy on the ambient mics?
And overall decent show for the time. Perhaps a bit of a sleeper until the second set, or is that just the laid back Cali factor, or perhaps because I just finished 84 summer tour lol.
But I really enjoyed from PITD Onward! Good pallet cleanse, now onto 7/21/74, only Aud but not bad, good show so far…checking another box off the not heard list
Onward!

10/19/73:” gold Jerry, gold I tell ya” something about that one, Booyah!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 06/27/2024 - 12:45

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I need to find the time to unravel that Dickus Pickus and combine it with the Charlie Millers and stitch it back together as two complete shows. They included the right Weather Report Suite if you are going to cut one out, but then again, they cut out a Weather Report Suite and left in two Sugar Magnolias. Sometimes I can take chopped up partial shows and sometimes it bugs the crapatcha out of me. Today is the latter as WRS is working for me today.

10/19/73 - doesn't get that much airtime for me these days, but it should. The Dark Star>MLB>Madness>Morning Dew is one for the ages.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 06/28/2024 - 07:44

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Jim, circling back on this show. Listened to the second set. Decent recording. Tempe AZ!

Love the China Riders, Lost Sailor Saint from this time period.

Might have to find another 80 show for today.....

Hope you all have a great weekend. We are still getting pounded with way too much rain here in MN.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/28/2024 - 09:18

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Thanks DVikes, sorry for the rain, we are in a bit of a drought here, go figure.

I had to do a double take while listening to I Know You Rider from that show. Jerry and Bobby switched verses. Glad they went back to the previous arrangement the next night, but a cool novelty version.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/28/2024 - 09:18

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The Dreaded Double Post.

For what it's worth, I listened to a 1980 Fire on the Mountain just before I took out the wasps nest in attic. All is good, not a single sting.

Speaking of Fire on the Mountain, Mount Edgecumbe in Southern Alaska (near Skagway) has been dormant for 800 years but looks like it's becoming active.

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Submitted by Obeah on Fri, 06/28/2024 - 11:12

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Jim I was wondering how that wasp's nest expedition turned out! We used to get them all the time on our back porch. I became expert at spotting them when they were small - softball-sized - and taking them out without using chemicals.

Speaking of (Scarlet->)Fire in 1980, the rendition on Dave's Vol 8 never gets old to these ears.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 06/28/2024 - 17:54

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Started 10-19-73 in the car today, after finishing 6-22-73.
A sonic downgrade for sure compared to PNW Box.

I have to agree with the Cone Kid on this one. The PNW box sounds amazing in comparison. It sounds amazing period. The China>Rider from Vancouver '74, for example, is amazing and the recordings do it justice.

They must be reading these threads on SiriusXM. Last night on my way home they played the DS>MLB>Morning Dew from that show, probably around 8ish PM EST. I have noticed them mirroring our discussions with playlists a day or two later several times in recent weeks.

Of course it could be coincidence but that's not as fun to discuss.

Still that performance is spectacular. And it's not just plangent processing, I believe Jeffrey Norman has gotten better at his job even with shows pulled from cassette masters.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 06/30/2024 - 05:33

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Do you have a pick for us today?

Scientific discovery?
Must be referring to Plangent Process.