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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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August 11, 2022 - 1:49pm

#1911

1stshow70878

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JM

on Jerry's style.
A cerebral description.
Whatever he's doing I'm OK
as long as I focus on all those notes.
I won't get lost.

Cheers
August 11, 2022 - 11:54am

#1912

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Aug. 1, 1982

I think Big Brownie had talked about this one a while back.
I'm finding so much early 80's I didn't know I liked.
It's all about the energy not so much the era.
Cheers
Thanks BC!
And Dennis thanks as well. JM is well spoken.
August 11, 2022 - 9:24am

#1913

bluecrow

Joined:
September 21, 2015

Thank you Dennis

Thanks for sharing that piece from Mayer. Really good.

Going with 2/21/71 from Workingman's 50th. Love the Rick Turner Peanut sound.

1st Show - glad to hear the Kitty Kat is still trucking on
August 11, 2022 - 8:22am

#1914

Dennis

Joined:
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Came across the desk

Out there in the internet world

A quote from John Mayer on Jerry's playing from a guitar players perspective ...
Part of the genius of Jerry Garcia, was all guitar players have little segments we work with, little riffs, and licks. We work in these building blocks: at the bottom are scales, then working up to riffs, then licks, then inverted licks if you are the best around.
Jerry's building blocks were molecules of playing. Not licks. The smallest pieces that could be put together. Everything you are hearing is original, off the top of his head, and represents his spiritual place he was in on that day. John Mayer on Jerry Garcia
This is the forward John wrote for Jay Blakesberg's book "Secret Space of Dreams"
"I’m a good enough guitar player to know a great guitarist when I hear one, but I had to become an even better one to begin to understand the depth and complexity of Jerry Garcia’s playing.
I’ve always said that musicians play like they are, and in the case of Garcia, his performances serve as a detailed map of a man, his intentions, his desires, and his impressions of the world around him. And going by that map, Garcia was a lovely, mighty soul. I never met him, and will never understand the loss of those who did, but the vast archive of his music amounts to the makings of a starry night sky that turns listeners into explorers.
Several years ago I set out not just to learn Garcia’s approach to the guitar and the songs he played, but to learn what about it has allowed millions of people who don’t play the guitar to key into it for hours on end. Soloing has been known since its inception as a kind of self-indulgent expression. Why, then, could so many listeners, myself included, listen to him do it endlessly without fatigue?
To best understand what makes Garcia’s guitar playing so unique, it helps to start with what it sidesteps: though it drew from blues and R&B, his guitar approach left a few traditional elements out of the equation, he didn’t play from that well-worn feral, sexual place that traditional blues music traded in, nor did he really touch the sinister aspects that were born into the idiom. Garcia didn’t sing about wanting to rock a young woman all night long, and any of his deals with the devil existed metaphorically as mere setbacks. (What’s 20 bucks, anyway?) These changes affect the fundamental color palette of the storytelling. I’m not sure the sun ever rises in Chicago blues music, but in the musical storytelling of Garcia and the Grateful Dead, it shines so bright it hurts.
On a more technical note, he played most often in a major blues scale, which added to this mix of innocence, and even joy. Minor blues notes lend themselves to the exquisiteness of pain, while major blues scales kind of explore the relief from it. Garcia played to relieve people of pain. That melodic innocence must have something to do with bringing so many people to their “happy place.” He wasn’t pulling notes from an anguished place within, he was catching them with a butterfly net as they went flitting by overhead. On a tactile level, he held the guitar with grace. It wasn’t a weapon, it was a vehicle. He took it easy. He may have played fast, but he was thinking slow. And that makes us listen with a smile.
I put Jerry Garcia on the same level as Miles Davis and Bill Evans because of the intention in his performing; once you’ve learned all the notes, and the chords, and the bends and the runs, you come to the final frontier of playing which is the why of it all, and that’s where the power was and still is in his playing. He played from a real place, a place that faced out to the world, not for his own reception or gratification. He played for the joy of interacting with the band and with the music he loved. If you listen close enough to a musician, you can tell what they’re looking to get out of each and every note they make. Garcia, to me, was looking to bring music to life out of the tacit, sacred duty to use his gift. Even after learning these things, they offer very little help in sounding anything like the man. That’s because he didn’t play anything stock or repetitive. There are no “signature Jerry Garcia solo riffs” as exist with so many revered guitarists. To “sound like Jerry,” you have to make people feel like he did, and well—good luck with that.
The real magic—the kind that will make the Grateful Dead music live forever—that’s in the way we carry it on in our hearts and minds. I don’t listen to Garcia and the band play—I watch it. I believe we all do, and that what we see is a blend of the music, the year in which it was played, the season and location of the show so as to understand the state of mind the band was in that night, that week, that presidency. We see it differently from one another the way we do our own dreams, but we all agree that our dreams contain these songs, and this band, those places and names. And that’s how the Grateful Dead managed to freeze time. We discuss our favorite years in present tense; we say we just heard the best version of something last night as if that was the moment it first took place. Your favorite year of their music "wasn’t", it "is." And in that way, inside that beautiful dreamscape the band created, the Grateful Dead is still up there, still playing. And Jerry is right there in front of them, and time is held in place by those who refuse to let it fade, and even as we sleep, as long as one of us is listening, the band is still playing.
We lose the ones we love, we pine for those who have left, and we lament the changes of modern times. But the makers of this music dug a tunnel, and it runs beneath time and space, and we, the ones who love it like family, crawl through to visit 1974, and 1969, and 1987 and 1990. If we were alive at the time the show took place, we see ourselves as the people we were in the lives we had, and if we weren’t born yet, we get to wistfully dream what it must have been like.
We only get a few minutes on earth, and Jerry Garcia gave all his minutes so that we could forever visit his life and times through his playing, and let it unravel into a new kind of now." --- John Mayer on Jerry Garcia and The Grateful Dead
August 11, 2022 - 8:15am

#1915

JimInMD

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The Zoo

A nice little show. I explored this one a little before this thread started, probably late 2019. It makes a good companion to the night before in Austin. Apparently hot that day and Jerry was up most of the night celebrating his birthday. Hot jams in China > Rider.
August 11, 2022 - 7:52am

#1916

DeadVikes

Joined:
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8/1/82

Looking at the 8/1/82 show from Oklahoma City for today. The hot summer 82 run.
August 10, 2022 - 1:20pm

#1917

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Yes Jim

One of the joys of old age.
Stuff (or hair) growing out of places it shouldn't.
Or where it hadn't before at least.
Cheers
August 10, 2022 - 12:28pm

#1918

JimInMD

Joined:
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Re:

Wow.

Tell Phoebe to stay away from the Special K. Catnip and a little cannabis are fine but stay away from Keratin and all the other hard stuff. Some cats never learn....
August 10, 2022 - 7:25am

#1919

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Thanks BC & DV & Jim & Oro

Phoebe the 17 y.o. cat has made a comeback as she has done many times.
Just when I think she's used all of her 9 lives she does the energizer bunny.
The vet says her lameness is a growth of keratin and not anything worse.
As long as she is not in pain and loving a hobbled walk in the sunshine we will keep on truckin'.
We've had a series of one dog and six female cats with as many as three at a time.
And when she goes the wife wants two male kittens next time.
That should be fun! We can never wait more than a month between loss and adoption. There are so many out there who need us.
Cheers all!
August 10, 2022 - 7:22am

#1920

bluecrow

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thank you friends

Spirit was such a sweet strong beautiful doggle woggle.

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

RIGHT ON ICRMCNKD!

you know they are now ... "knee deep in the hoopla"

73

Not sure if there is a better year, so many great shows and yes, sound quality on releases have varied over the years. Would be interesting to hear 10/19 with Plagent.
I think the HCS Box sounds better than the PNW box.

Which reminds me, I should listen the Des Moines show tomorrow.

Would love to send some rain your way Jim. We have had more rain here in the last three months than we had in the previous three years.

July should bring us the 2024 Box reveal and for sure Dave's Picks #51. What will it be?

85, 77 and 69? 91?

While we wait

I happened upon a thingie on your toob

GD
England 1970
The Lost Film

Very worth checking out

Re: Proudfoot

I saw that video hanging around there.. like an hour and a half. I've been crazy busy doing useless crap for other people lately.. so I only got about a third of the way through it last night. It must have been uploaded recently.

Needing a pick me up, how about 5/7/89, something someone we all know and love mentioned on the Dave's 50 thread. I don't think I have listened to it.

Sorry about your rain DVikes. If you pee in the river I live on it would probably double the flow. (not that I am recommending peeing in rivers, power to the fishies)

If they made 10/19/73 sound better, I'd buy two just to thank them for their trouble.

So many shows, so little time

Gotta revisit 10/19/73

Like Alpine 89, I have never fully understood what is so aMAzing about it.

A road trip with 10/19/73 should do the trick....

Re 5/7/89

There's a lot of subtlety to it

And some unsubtle things, too :)))

For whatever reason, I really enjoyed it yesterday.

If you have...

Fallout from the Phil Zone

Listen to it sometime this month

One more thing

Infrared Roses

Listening to that again for the first time in a while

Fallout from the Phil Zone and Infrared Roses

Love them both, was especially fond of Fallout from the Phil Zone.

73/5/7/89

Just finishing up the Des Moines show from the HCS. I love this box!

Jim, I will get 5/7/89 rolling this afternoon. I believe this was a Rex benefit show.

Hope you all can enjoy some good Dead music this week.

One of my picks of the day

4/1/84

Happy Fourth

Happy Fourth of July weekend out there. Hope you all had a good day and enjoy the weekend. July is my favorite month of the year and the Dead played some great shows in July.

Right

A belated May the Fourth Winds Blow You Safely Home.

Today's pick

So, in my world, today found me smack dab in 9/28/76 aka Dick's Picks #20, pt.2

Started with the Let It Grow>GDTRFB then rolled on with set 2

This is some of the most-heady, well played Grateful Dead i've ever had the pleasure to hear!!

Get some!

4/1/84

The first set was fun, second set tomorrow.

So Dickus Pickus 20. I love the Supplication on that too. Will make a nice start to the weekend.

4/1/84

My first "ah-ha" moment and first "bootleg" I'd ever hear of the GD. Provided by my older brother, this tape, second set only, made me sit back and think "man, this is something else!"

Fine reason to go back and take a spin!! Thanks, Jim

9/28/76...

aka Dick's Picks #20, pt.2, oh yeah, this show and the night before
9/27/76 Rochester
get lots of airplay around these parts, especially while cutting grass with headphones

Uncle Tripel

I've never heard 9/27/76. I'm gonna check it out!

Dicks #20

Always worth another listen.

I guess no #51 announcement this week. Must be coming next week.

Box? Who knows.

9/27/76

Several of my older head friends were there, and said it was probably the best show they were at, (including Rochester 77!)
Don’t peak, it has a cool set list and is a great show if you haven’t checked it out!

Edit: even Doc likes this show ; )

9/28/76 DiP 20 Part Dos

Sweet, fun (partial) listen yesterday - Cold Rain and Snow through Samson. Phil way dialed up in the mix - that Let it Grow opening - whew. The Samson entrance may be the most laid back, in that '76 way, that I've ever heard. May rewind and def will finish that show. 9/27/76 you say?! Onward back in time to the show that was the day before!!

9 27 76

Excellent show, for sure

Currently I am on disc 3 of JGB at Kean College

I also have JGB 8 29 87 in the "eventually" cue

Peak, yes

Peek, no

We're not earthly beings any more... we're cosmic beings.....

Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is lightning that does the work......

On September 27, 1976, the Dead brought the thunder AND the lightning. I should know, I was there. It's a long story, but here's the Reader's Digest version:

It's a long way from Amherst, Massachusetts to Rochester, New York. We completely missed out on the June Music Hall shows, were disappointed by Colt Park, and were hot to see the Dead. Why Rochester? I'm afraid that reasoning is lost to the ravages of time and memory, but off we went. We took our excellent doses too early, and by the time we hit town we were on one of the outer rings of Saturn.

Even though Providence 74 was still somewhat fresh in our faulty memories, Rochester impressed us, especially the very big, bobbing & weaving, waves crashing second set.

How we made it there and back in one piece, only our guradian angel can tell...........

The man who has perceived God looks upon all types of men as dream motion-picture images, made of the relativities of the light of cosmic consciousness and the shadows of delusion......

Rock on,

Doc
Long before the awakening of thought on earth, manifestations of cosmic energy must have been produced which have no parallel today......

76/Pick

Pretty sweet Doc, I would have loved to see them in 76.

How about a pick?

7/31/82, Manor Downs from the 30 Trips Box. I am channeling an 82 show for #51.

Nice Story Doc

Thanks for the visuals.

It happens to best of us.. you try to time everything perfectly and it kicks in way before your ready to follow the yellow brick road in the land of Oz. That cracked me up resulting in a waste of some perfectly good coffee.

As for 51, there are some good sounding boards from 82 and Jerry's voice is mostly in fine shape compared to what was to become. I get the feeling one of these days we are going to get a Bruce show too. With all the back and forth on the Dave's 50 page Halloween 91? Hopefully we will get a good one. I'd really like to see a banana box or something very, ,very old and very very primal. It's been a long time since we got anything earlier than 69. If we get anything discussed, I'd be happy. Gotta admit, when the 77 came I was simply not in the mood for another 77. Still, it's an interesting release and I am sure I will warm up to it once I am fully in the mood. I hope they dial back on repetitive offerings a bit though and reach just beyond their comfort zone. At this point, to me, that's the sweet spot.

I would really like to know exactly what is in the vault and the quality of the tapes. Just a peeksie. After this heat wave we are going to step up efforts on that tunnel under the vault.

I'm going to play something with a Cold Rain and Snow. Replacing an exterior window in this heat has turned me into a giant, surly raison.

Frost 1982.....

would make a great release. My favorite year at the Frost was 1982.

7/31/82

If you haven't listened to this show in a while give it a go. It is a great show. Summer 82 was hot! Have we had an 82 Dave's yet? I don't think so, let's do it Dave!

9-27-76

Just finished 87664.sbd.miller.

Yes, I’ll take a cleaned up official release.

Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud.....

Morning, rockers!!!

Today I say be playing 4/13/71 Scranton, because......well........51!

I know some folks won't be happy with that. I'm not one of them...........

Thanks, Dave!!!

Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?

Rock on!!!!

Doc
To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.....

#51

Think I will wait until this one lands next week. Looking forward to it and then at some point a new box.

7-13-85

Playing now and sounds pretty good.

A Plangentized/Normanized Box of summer ‘85 next year for 2025 would be grate.
There’s enough material for 2 Boxes if it can all be cleaned up. Some shows have that buzzing or distortion that I had previously read somewhere was caused by a loose cable or something in Phil’s system.

Alligator

11-11-67

11/11/67

That show is in the top bracket. Up there with the likes of 3/1/69 and 5/2/70 if you ask me. Or even if you don't.

Daverock

Are you thinking of 11-10-67 from 30 Trips?
Yes, top bracket.
Especially the vinyl release.

11-11-67 is also good, but needs to be cleaned up.

Cnkd

Doh....yes, I am ! I have heard 11/11/67 and thought it was really good - but not for many years.

6/9/73

Who is up for a little 6/9/73?

I have been pounding 6/10 quite a bit, but have only listened to 6/9 once.

The HCS Box is definitely in the top three for me at this point. Love it!

6/9/73

Hell yea, I'll dive down that rabbit hole with you.

They played the PITB from this one on Satellite radio about a week ago and I wondered why I have not hit it since the initial listen.

They played the Stanger opener from 11/30/80 today and I felt like diving into that show for a repeat also.

I'm waiting for Dave's 51 to get my religion also. No offense meant doc but I do find myself reveling in that first Full Norman listen.

Cone Kid - the coffee is strong, enjoying some good Kenyan on ice during the really hot days. Got in my kayak for the first time in more than a year. My broken wing is beginning to mend, but now it's very sore.

Hope all is well with you crazies as the dog days of summer march on.

6-9-73

Started playing it in the car today.
Will take a few commutes to finish.

An awesome Box it is.

Iced coffee

Sounds refreshing Jim.

I’ve been meaning to make some cold brew coffee and see how that tastes.
May roast some beans this weekend.

Someone regifted me some Starbucks French roast beans. He thought they were too strong. I thought that they were under roasted.

6/9/73

Thanks for joining in guys. Hope the shoulder is healing well Jim. Been drinking some Oberon tonight Conekid. Summer is flying by again.

Love these two shows. Not breaking any new ground hear, but my god, 6/9 and 6/10 don't take a back seat to any shows.
The China Rider, He's Gone into Truckin, Playing, fabulous! Yes, might be better than E72. He's Gone had that great Jam at the end that just makes me thankful for this band.

TTB on their way to Minneapolis next weekend. Been talking to my wife about going. Roughly $300 for the two of us to go with floor seats. Would love to know if they are worth that kind of dough.

Beverages

Yes DV, Oberon is plenty in my house.
Wish it was available all year.

Nice cup of dark roast coffee right now though.

Also just put 2 carafes of water and tea bags in the sun for some sun tea later today.
One is 2 bags green tea, 2 bags black tea. The other is 4 bags decaf green tea.
Got to cut back on my caffeine intake come evening, so go with the decaf green.

TTB

Vguy and others would probably say totally worth the money

I am unconvinced even after two shows

However

It's a nice thing to experience with your better half

Make some points in the relationship game

7-27-73

Get on it while the night is still young….

Happy anniversary.
Just imagine young Hendrixfreak attending……

Then...

flash 51 years later
he's at Red Rocks seeing TTB
Nice!
Cheers HF and all

TTB, et al

Saw TTB last year with Los Lobos, this year with Little Feat. Both shows were outstanding. Derek Trucks is a savant. Susan certainly no slouch, either. Worth $150 per ticket? Depends on one's financial situation.

Wife and I had a great time at a Bruce Hornsby show last week. He's still so good, his band always tight and having fun. Earlier saw Gov't Mule, Bonnie Raitt, plus Dead & Co. at the Sphere a couple weeks ago.

I love how well-behaved deadheads can take over a large city like Las Vegas for a few days. Looking at the gawkers who don't "get" the deadheads reminds me of those 1967 bus tours in the Haight pointing out all the filthy, miserable hippies to startled vacationers. Pretty hilarious!

I had a blast in LV. The visuals in the Sphere were mind-blowing, seats vibrating and bouncing during Rhythm Devils, just a great show all around.

Staying at the hotel attached to the Sphere, every time the elevator door opened, I said, "Oh, no. Deadheads!" I waited for the expected frowns before admitting my shared allegiance, eliciting hugs and high-fives. What a privilege to be part of such a kind community!

So grateful to be seeing live shows again after the musical desert during the Covid lockdowns. As Joni said, "Don't it always seem to go, you dont know what you got 'til it's gone."

TTB

Thanks for the info guys. I better step up to the plate and buy the tickets. They are playing at the renovated armory in downtown Minneapolis. Seems like a cool venue.

I'm WoW'd🙏🏼

I'm a shiny new member, never had the privilege to go on tour, discovered the dead way too late in my life unfortunately. Always been on the search for the best song but there's too many as I've learned, watching you guys chat whooping off dates is like me talking RC car parts I getting all technical but it's so impressive and cool and now with those dates I'm going to go hunt them down and see what's so great about them and learn on this never-ending journey nice to meet y'all hope I didn't say too much! 😄

Welcome IcedRider

Welcome, always good to see a new face.

Super excited about this new box. OB? I think you did this tour a while back, so you must be excited?

How about 10/17/72 from the still not sold out LTTR box.
Who is with me?

Howdy Do!

Ice rider, and good ole DV, oh, and Bolo too, and, and, “all my friends, come around….”
It’s like old home daze lol
All that’s missing is Jimmy.
Glad yer back on water, but easy on that busted wing Hoss ; )

I have not “done the tour” YET, DV, but I’ve heard all the included shows except the third one?
Back when, 78 was another “fly over” because I didn’t put the work in, and relied too much on written nonsense. I started out getting weened on lots of 78 boots at the then current time, so that and negative comments had me uninterested, “until…until, until I say, that fateful day”, no not SF in ruins, but until DaP 37!
I’m sure I’ve pontificated enough on glorious DaP 37 (along with 43 and 49), my favs from last few years,(thanks so much D & C= Dave and company lol) but 37 really shown me the light and got me down the spring 78 rabbit hole! And of course being a audio idiot, this tours Betty’s are Magnifico! So, yeah, I’m psyched fo sho!

New blood, awesome!
Better late than never icerider!
Don’t be a feared, we don’t bite..usually lol
Only rule perhaps, don’t be a dick!
Best advice. Don’t read too much on the internet lol
Make up your own damn mind, there is no such thing as right or wrong. Just many flavors as Doc would say. Learn what you like by listening, not reading what others like. Comments make good starting points, the rest is up to you…
I like to read about shows after I’ve checked em out to get my own opinion.
If you get confused, just listen to the music play!

Jump on in, the waters fine!

Edit: DV, I’ve only streamed TTB recently, from the Greek.
Totally enjoyed it. Not going to get weird and go on tour, but I bet they’d be awesome to see live at least once! In fact, I bet their even better live.
WTH, it’s only money, and hey, you get to have a nice night with your Other One!