Grateful Dead

Crazy stuff at the Met Center. Maybe that is why they didn't come back to that venue until the late 1980s.

1980 you say Jim?? I am in of course. Hard to know what they will do next year and of course when it will be released. If it is a fall release, it will be something like 18 months between box set releases. Too long for this guy. One thing is for sure, they keep us guessing.

Like Oroborous said, we have those great years that are lost in space! So true. 80,81 and I will add 79 to that list as well. I think there is some great shows in that year.

Yes and I would love the 74 Winterland Box Conekid, that would be a break the website release.

The piece of film that I have is the very beginning of OMSN. What I thought looked like a crew member doing a repair on stage is actually a camera man.

It’s been a while since I’ve watched the movie. Makes me really want the entire run to be released in a Box with audio and video.

Thanks Oro.. this seems to indicate the series is more balanced than a lot of people seem to acknowledge.

As for box, call me crazy, but I am speculating 72 or 80. My logic on 1980 is pure speculation. If they had some hidden reels (and there's a part of me that thinks they must), the certainly would not tell us. Perhaps when they were seeing what if anything was releasable.. while rummaging around the found a couple shows to be released as spin-offs giving us 10/8 and 10/9. Which gives them time to go through the good stuff and plan out a box set a couple years later. 1972, do we need a reason? Thinking the Fox Theatre St. Louis or the rest of the BCT's (if they have them). 69 will always be a wild card. Ark Ark.

10/23/73 - Fight -
So there's some good comments on Archive.org in regards to this, but the following eyewitness review seems to shed the most light:

Reviewer: duckpond74 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 30, 2010
Subject: a little history here . . .
What really sucked was that this show was advertised as "The Grateful Dead Performing 3 Sets". Casey Jones was the first song of Set 3. The fight was ugly - several security dudes beating on one guy who was dancing in the aisle right in front of the stage, even Bill K. jumped off the stage to help break things up and security started pounding on Bill, that's what Phil is so upset about. The melee ended soon after. By then, Jerry and Phil were both sitting on the stage floor - everyone seeming quite upset by this sudden change of weird energy and bad vibe. The band had several discussions - you could see that they were at serious odds about whether they should continue with the plan and do a third set. After all, the first two sets were well played, creative and joyful. When they finally tried to play Saturday Night, you could tell their hearts and minds were no longer into continuing this night. Too bad for all of us. Those security punks must have left their 'Minnesota Nice' at the door or when they donned their uniforms.

So Billy K jumped down into the melee, following in the footsteps of Marty Balin circa 1969. It sounds like Billy faired a little better and it was Security Guards instead of Pool Cue wielding Hell's Angels.

Fascinating. It makes you wonder what could have been during Set 3. I was under the assumption it was an encore, but shit.. that coulda been a Dark Star or something amazing.

Wang Dang Soundcheck started circulating online in mid 2008 when Charlie Miller posted his Transfer of SBD > Master Reel > Dat. Outside of an Official Release, it doesn't get any better than that.

Speaking of Official Releases (nice segue huh? I like transitions)... Man this 5/26/72 is sooooo goood.
Set 1 is essentially a Full Show.
And then... you get some of the greatest music they ever played.
Pigpen's organ fills during Europe '72 are the cherry on top, he's got the tastiest licks imho.
I've always liked his sense of when to lay back and when to add color.
Really enjoying this Truckin' boy howdy, I see what those folks in Turlock were excited about.
Good Stuff!

Woah, don’t think I’ve ever heard anything like that at a dead show before. At first I though someone must of chucked a bottle or something. Can’t believe I’ve never read about this before?
WANG DANG: weird, not listed in either a Deadbase 10 or 50? Neither is OMSM? Sounds like a job for inspector Good Old....I’m wondering since they obviously don’t really know it if it was an off the cuff reaction to the fighting, I mean it is the perfect song for it lol.
Great show though, just your typical fall 73, yawn, NOT! Hadn’t heard this one before. Probably cause no DS? Do Love those Trucking/Nobody sequences though. Man what a great tour! Still haven’t gotten to 10/19, just haven’t had time for real sit down in the big boy chair, and that show requires nothing less!
Been enjoying the picks this week although only on iPad at job site. Tis why I’ve had to delay my fall 89 excursion...did listen to the three Philly shows a bunch on the pad, but didn’t get time for them on the big system until last night. After 10/23/73, and most of 10/18/89 on the pad at work, did 10/18&19/89 last night under proper conditions and yeah, still think Philly was a great run. More on that later. Have to make the best of probably the last nice day this year as it’s supposed to snow and drop from high sixties today to lows near zero by Monday, Booooo!
One thing I don’t like here, going from extremes with no acclimation time, it’s a horrible shock to the system!
So out to the garage it is. Perfect for 5/26/72 and then perhaps 10/20/89, with proper replay upstairs tonight.
More to come...
Onward!

The waiting.....

Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
(First #) = Year:
(2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
(3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
(4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

80: 1 / 29 / #8
69: 2 / 27 / #10
81: 1 / 17 / #20
72: 3 / 13 / #24
71: 3 / 11 / #26
83: 1 / 10 / #27
76: 3 / 9 / #28
70: 2 / 7 / #30
79: 1 / 6 / #31
73: 4 / 5 / #32
77: 5 / 4 / #33
74: 5 / 3 / #34
84: 1 / 2 / #35
87: 1/ 1 / #36
78: 4/ -/ #37

I figured we were getting a 78 soon, that and or a 72...of course 69, 80, and 81 are like lost in space...
My initial reaction was disappointment, but as always I’m sure I’m going to love it and be damn grateful to have it!

EDIT: so what do y’all think for next box....I’d say 78 since there’s those ABCD Beatty’s and he’s obviously rooting around in that zone except for how poorly the 78 box sold? I’d say it’s fair odds...

Agree dvikes. Keithfan used the term Kill Zone (69 through 74) though I would use 70-74, 77.

Interesting pick. Digesting it a bit, they have gotten a bit formulaic, the first two from the kill zone, the third the head scratcher and the fourth, pot luck. It's good to mix things up, I would never want to be called predictable.

I guess this whole conversation belongs on the other thread, but oh bother.. it's already written here.

Since I got in 5/26 already, I guess I have the rest of the day to catch up on what I missed.

Good vibes, good people and most importantly good shows on this thread. Haven't seen Bolo for a while, we can only assume geopolitical chaos is on the rise. Be good all..

Yes, I had early April 78 from the returned reels for a 2021 release. Didn't pick a specific show, however. Also thought we would see the Kezar 73 show. Who knows, maybe #38??
Someone pointed out that this show would not fit on 3 CDs, so not sure. I think 72 is also due this year, not sure when.

5/26 is a winner.
19 Songs in Set 1 = Holy Shit!
Just finished the PITB, love me some '72 Playin'

DV - Didn't you call '78?
I thought it was you.
Yeah, digging into the old ABCD stash.

I wanna visit the Vault Cage, it's officially on my bucket list.
I heard there's a picture of Dick at the entrance.
Latvala! That is.. not the other Dick ;)