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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #3271
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    Anyone have a pick for today?

    I am thinking about some post 78 Egypt shows.

  • #3272
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    Hope I didn't accidentally offend Rockthing.. if so, def not on purpose. I enjoy your posts.

  • #3273
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    You got a crisis back there?…

    You got a crisis back there? Well keep it back there. We got nothing but heat and NO WATER!

  • #3274
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    Wow. It's been so long, I…

    Wow. It's been so long, I had to go back 9 pages just to see what I'd been rambling about last time.

    I see the thread has covered a LOT of ground since then. It's all stuff I'm pretty sure I would not be able to comment on immediately.

    > icecrmcnkd

    The Vanetta video is just astounding. I haven't watched it in, probably, a few years, but my memory is of nothing but good. Sublime performance under extreme circumstances. Really, THIS is the Dead's Woodstock. They are not a festival band. They ARE a festival. The film crew, though, they are heroes. As soon as it starts getting dark this evening. That will be going on the home projector screen. I've been seeing posts about it on various social media for the past couple days, it seems, so I'm primed.

    >

    In general I like those really laid back, and as many have commented, somewhat tentative '76 shows. I've had the 6/19 Passaic FM tape in my ipod most of the month, but have not listened to it all the way through. Vocals really, really dominate the mix early on, but then I catch a song from later in the show and it sounds a little better balanced. I think this show has a Sampson and Delilah with an unusually jammy ending.

    The other stuff in the ipod lately is Live Dead, American Beauty, Skull and Roses, Paris '72, 7/26/72 Portland, Eaton Cornell SBD, Willie Nelson's July 4th pic-nic 7/1/78, Shakedown Street, and the Autumn Records Warlocks demo. Man, I don't know what it is about that Autumn Records demo, but I cannot get enough of it. I love that thing. I can listen to it all day long.

    I've spent a lot of time in my day with a few February~April '71 shows and they are a LOT of fun. I'm not sure I've heard any of that August run. Definitely making a mental note. Computing situation is a bit sketchy atm. Been listening to nothing but bird song (no caps) all day.

    > 1stshow70878

    Thank you for the vinyl advice. I have not used a magnifying glass, but the naked eye does not reveal any scratches at all. I have had success going slo-mo on other records and finding a piece of white crud lodged, as you say. A gentle prod with a finger nail usually releases it. In this case the object may not be white. Thank you.

    One thing I noticed about the JICO generic replacement stylus was that it seemed to pick up a lot of "dust". Perhaps that was actually just PVC being scraped off the surface.... IDK. I may have damaged the stylus trying to remove the debris with the stylus brush. I may have damaged the record in handling. It's impossible to place the blame definitively.

    I use an Audio Technica brush, and usually use the solution, but occasionally do a dry dust. I also have a Swing No. 25 Dusper that I use to lightly dry off the surface if I get too much solution.

    >

    So much for that OG green label Europe '72 I ordred. The Discogs seller just took my hundred dollar bill and vanished in the air. That's the second time in a year I've been ripped off buying Dead merch online. I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. There were definitely lots of shady vendors in the lot in the later years. For the record, PayPal's claim system is pretty much a joke, in case anyone was wondering.

    > Strider 808808

    Yeah, an excerpt of Brown's The Sacred Pipe just happened to be in a book on Native American religion and philosophy edited by Dennis and Barbara Tedlock that I picked up when I was, I dunno, 18 or 19, I guess. Brown's piece about Black Elk's vision quest really struck a chord with me. I think it was something about the pacing to the four corners, always returning to the center. Black Elk looks for messages from various auspicious birds that appear, and just as it seems there is nothing to be found, he is spoken to. I didn't actually get 'round to following up on it until fairly recently. My interests moved more toward east Asian philosophy, and western esoteric tradition, but that vision quest account by J.E. Brown has always stuck with me. I think I can relate the experience of receiving epiphanies just at the point of touching bottom. There must be something of those Campbellian universal truths in it.

    > JimInMD

    Hey, man. Not everyone has free time to write little mini-essays on discussion boards. :) I was mainly trying to justify why I always take up a whole page with my own discussion.... but also kind of trying to say, that , hey, it's ok to be a little critical where criticism is due. It is subjective opinion, though, and I'm not out to hurt anyone's feelings by slamming someone's favorite show.

    >

    I see people making some Kermit comments RE an '85 pick. There are some nights in this period where Jer has more voice than others, but I agree, he does seem to be trying to pick up the slack with his guitar playing, and often the rest of the band is on a charge, so these were probably super fun shows to attend. A bit before my time, unfortunately. Jerry would sing in a gravelly voice through the end of his career, but there is sometimes a different quality to his vocals from this period that seem more croak than gravel. That said, without opening my music library, I'm pretty sure I have not heard 4-7-85. A week and change later he sounds pretty good. I really enjoy the 4/16 and 4/20 shows that I got turned onto here.

    As others have been saying, though, one of the wonderful things about this thread is that it leads me to shows I might not have normally gone to, and some really hot shows from '85 that came up in the POTD really changed my mind, so I definitely want to thank all of you for that. Just in the last year I also discovered some real gems from '81, '82 that are super duper mellow, unlike the high energy of '85, but have also inspired me to happily fill in some gaps in my listening.

    And, in reply to this quote, "Did you ever just know you're not going to remember the chords?", absolutely. lol ^^;

    > DeadVikes, icecrmcnkd

    Living on the other side of the world, I'm always in favor of download options. As much as a vinyl junkie as I am, if it's a choice of a CD or a download, I can often get two download albums for the price of buying a CD and paying international shipping. Iirc the Dave's Picks are only on CD. I love the archive, and I love AUD tapes, but even /my/ bootleg ears have their limits sometimes.

    Lovin' the Althea recommendations. One of my favorite tunes. I'll be looking for that Go to Nassau show, now.

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    Pole guy

    For those inclined to celebrate the anniversary.

    The 50th anniversary next year falls on a One More Saturday Night. Maybe they’ll hold a MUATM.

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    The Rosemont in IL. Would be interested to hear more about that show Bluecrow. Kind of an interesting tour in late 81 and I think well played. Need to as always explore more of it.
    Dane County in 78, wow! That must have been a great a great show to be at.

    Love those Dave's Picks Bluecrow. Makes me want to check out Dave's Picks #34.

    Stay well out there.

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    DV - that looks like fun and will check it out. did not attend, was at the Rosemont on 12/6. Feb. 78 was only Dane Co show for me. Sure wish I caught more in Madtown because they sure seemed to bring it every time.

    Last few days the Dead I've been spinning has been Dave's 17 Selland and Dave's 32 Spectrum. Into the He's Gone vibe and all the other places that come with it.

    Take care everyone. Onward.

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    I listened to all of 8/23/71 last night. Today I listened to 8/24/71 or what I could locate of it from Dicks Picks 35.
    I realize I’m a dropout from Pick of the Day much of the time. It’s good to see it still rolling.
    August 26, 1971 is a significant date in Grateful Dead history in that it was the last time the original five members played as a quintet.(pre Keith) I was visiting Oregon for my first time so I missed Gaelic Park but quite a few of my friends were in attendance.
    On another note, Charlie Watts passing is major. I was lucky to see The Rolling Stones my only times live, two nights in Mexico City January 1995 , a month before my final Grateful Dead concerts that I made it up to in Salt Lake City , birthplace of Neal Cassady.
    Love So Real / Not Fade Away

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    That is a bummer Conekid. I will have to check out the next night at some point. I was not able to see the band in 91, which was too bad because they had a lot of good shows in 91.
    The sound quality on this one is a solid A in my book. Fun show, nice FOTD, the BTW is good. The Scarlet Fire is a little clunky but still good. Bob really liked to yell during these Estimated Prophets.

    For today, I was thinking 12/4/1981 from the Dane County Coliseum. I am pretty sure I saw a few other bands at this venue at some point I just can't remember who it was...
    Maybe Bluecrow was at this show in 81?

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    Yes, I had mail order tix for a hat trick and was denied.
    Never made plans to go to a show with that person again.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

I completely agree.

On occasion and if I'm not careful volume gets the best of me. One day I might live to regret this. Thankfully, that day was not today.

A new one for me. Some sound weirdness especially in and around banter, but what the hey.

I don't know what it is, but I have soft spot for The Eleven, Born Cross-Eyed and especially New Potatoe Caboose. Good show with some vintage grease to end the night with me feeling a little dirtier than I did when I woke up.

If there's no pick for tomorrow, I suggest the next in line. It's a partial, starts with a rare Clementine. 1/20/68 Euraka Municipal Auditorium. I think we should set up a go fund me to find all the missing reels, there's a couple missing from this show. It would be something for them to be found.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 09/06/2024 - 06:15

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Hey Jim, I know you have had a lot on you plate this year. Thanks for checking this one out. Yes, the recording is decent, not great. Like a lot of 88 recordings out there. Still think they have some good ones in the Vault.

I liked the show, anytime I see a Hey Pocky Way, I am in. Nice Shakedown to open the second set. Love the triple Encore with China Rider OMSN.

It is good to get out of the comfort zone once in a while Doc.

Carousel Ballroom 68, okay Jim, Ok will have to que it up this morning.

Enjoy the weekend out there.

Edit. Oh and after the carousel ballroom I will be moving on the 12/9/79, Dave's Picks #47. Love this one and I need some 79. If I had the keys, I would be putting out a big 79 Box.

44 years ago today, there when Roy Buchanan along with Levon and His All Stars opened for the Dead. My last in person show, on the bus since their first album, however things had changed so much.... Doc was there, a wild late summer scene, part of my farewell to Maine.

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-timefavorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solide offical release. It is worthy......

Doc
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Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-time favorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solid official release. It is worthy......

Doc
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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 09/07/2024 - 05:42

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I'm in - hopefully sometime this weekend I can transport my mind and spirit into late summer beautiful day/evening Maine. Sounds like a dream show and setting. Very cool that a couple of you guys got to be there. Didn't realize this was the last show before the Warfield run. Long and heartfelt write up on grateful seconds (he was there). Comment at the end from a guy who was 8 at the time and lived a "bike trail" away from the fairgrounds. Listened to part of the show from his clubhouse. Rode his bike over and snuck in. Totally dug the Drums. Made major bank (for a kid) collecting cans and bottles for deposit afterwards (which is exactly what 8 yr old me would have done.) Think I might travel John Deere with the Jim Wise FOB.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 09/09/2024 - 21:03

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But back this week. I can do Lewiston again.

As I recall there is not a good soundboard that circulates, right? And the one that does is first set only and it sure does sound like an audience (or ultramatrix on steroids at least).

High energy though.. like Gainesville, there must have been something in the water.

You have to wonder if this was recorded and if so where the hell are the master tapes? I think someone (Parrish??) tossed out the language that some of the master reels were left on the seat and when the truck pulled away they must have flown out the window or something.

I'd love to see more reels (and cassettes) returned.

Anyway, Lewiston Me for me tomorrow.

Edit: Started tonight - why not? Gave up on the "soundboard" and settled on the Jim Wise same as Bluecrow. Good news, Bluecrow.. The John Deere Broke down and was sitting in the yard for the last half of the week. I got it working today. Had to replace the solenoid. Damned electronics are always interfering with time travel. Just imagine if this broke back in time before Jebediah Solenoid created the first working model for riding mowers.. we would have been screwed.. I mean, nothing wrong with being stuck in 1980 but why not go back another 10 to 15 years...

High energy is right. Pretty good audience.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 09/10/2024 - 21:33

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While I was in the neighborhood, I took a quickie with 11/28/80 Lakeland Civic Center - Lakeland, FL (30 Trips).

I figured why not.. most enjoyable, especially To Lay Me Down. Not sure why I like that song so much, but I do.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 09/12/2024 - 08:07

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Ah, yes, more 1980. You don't have to twist my arm. A shorter show for the time period, but still really good. Will get it going after I finish up Dicks #36, which was mentioned on some other threads. Such a great show, but apparently didn't sell well at the time. No idea why.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 09/12/2024 - 17:31

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Random Musing - 1980

My favorite non-multi-track 1980 release has got to be Dave's # 8, 11/30/80 Fox Theater. Love how that Matrix worked out. If anyone remembers the seaside chat, he was spot on.

Crowd noise was not as big an issue in 1980 as they could play in some pretty intimate venues. Also, as the age of the cassette master replaced the lovely Ms. Cantor Jackson, a lot of those early soundboards are a bit sterile sounding without the crystalline highs and the booming lows. Blending those early 80's soundboards with one of those near perfect audience masters works. When they aged out of the smaller, cooler venues (thinking after Jerry's coma and In The Dark) audience tapes had to compete with hundreds of the guy next to you screaming "JERRY!!" at 95 decibels, this was no longer possible.

That SBD/Dr. Bob matrix is almost exactly perfect (or as good we are going to get for the time).

On the opposite side of the same coin, I think some of the Ultra Matrix's have a bit too much of the guy yelling JERRY! then I sometimes want to hear. Thinking a lot of 87 suffers from this, and by then the audience tapes were no better.

Anyway, if Mr. Norman can pull of similar wizardry I wish they would do more like DaP#8.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Tue, 09/24/2024 - 04:20

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Mornin', rockers!!!

Pick of the day? September 24, 1972. Because..............Dark Star!

Minor rain storm headed my way................

The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils......

Rock on!

Doc
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 09/29/2024 - 13:45

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It's an early audience, but contains one of the few Seven's that were recorded.

09/29/69 Cafe au Go-Go - New York City, NY

It's no betty board, but an interesting inflection point in GD history, so maybe worthy of our time. Primal GD on the heels of WMD Americana GD.

Despite the recording quality, it's pretty good for a 1969 audience. Worth the trip for the Seven alone. Plus, it's pretty short. Something different, something quick, and well, it's really something.

So why not mix it up with a shortie from the fall of 1969.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 09/30/2024 - 07:20

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Will mix this in as I listen to the new box today. Thanks Jim.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 10/04/2024 - 19:03

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Been a while, just wanted to say hello. Watching the Dark Star from 10/18/74, cool to see video of Ned on stage, as well as see Jerry interact with the head nod. Enjoyed the April 78 release. With the 50th anniversary of the Winterland shows a few weeks away, doesn't look like anything is happening. Be good everyone. Bob t

Hey Bob T, how have you been man? Hope all is well.
Yes, love that bonus footage from the GDM soundtrack. Might be one of my favorite UJB.
I have been traveling for work this week so still haven't made a dent in the new box, but loving it so.far.
Good thing there is no rush at this point.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 10/14/2024 - 12:43

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Hope everyone is enjoying the new box set. Really enjoying it so far over here.

If anyone is interested in a pick, it has been a while, how about 5/16/81, Barton Hall from the 30 Trips box?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 10/14/2024 - 16:19

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Started playing it last night and finished it tonight.

Good call DV.
And I’m having a Bell’s Octoberfest too. They’re gone from the store but I have 5 more cans in the fridge.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 10/14/2024 - 21:40

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Nice Conekid, must be esp.

Enjoyed the show again, nice Shakedown Bertha, Sailor Saint. Show ends with that audience patch.

Enjoy the last few Octoberfests. Still have a couple six packs to get through. Would buy a few more but the self life of this beer is only 3 months and it goes bad fast.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sat, 10/19/2024 - 03:33

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Good morning fellow rockers!!!

October 19, 1971

The second great seismic shift of 1971. The Yang to the Yin of February 18. Similar, yet different. Old, yet new. A vision of the new era. Change can be for good if you combine audacity with safety………

An old friend missing, a new guy who seems to fit in right away. Six new songs. The return of the complete CE/TOO/CE suite. The unusual occurrence of back-to-back Garcia songs twice in the first set. The first of the Fall 1971 FM broadcasts. One of only two 1971 shows that featured both Black Peter and Brokedown Palace. There ain’t no grease, but there’s plenty of Bakersfield left, as well as big jams.

Not without its rough edges, yet somehow it hangs together oh so well. Absolutely historic and worthy of a serious listen……

Rock on!!
Doc
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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sun, 10/20/2024 - 01:28

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Morning, rockers!!

This is for AJS. He'll know what I'm talking about...........

October 20, 1984, Carrier Dome. The last show we saw on that tour, maybe not Augusta level but very enjoyable. We had a great time. Maybe it was the liquid 25, courtesy of Deadhead Fred, a little drop'll do ya!!

Or maybe it was the music. Worth a listen!!!

If I had known being insane was so much fun, I'd have gone crazy long ago.....

Rock on,

Doc
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10-20-84 - Syracuse

I was there also, think I met doc in the bathroom during drums,,, he was wearing a tie-dye :-)

My records show we rated Jack Straw at end of set one, a plus 2. Also second set opener of Shakedown got a plus 2 rating from our crew. We have the Black Peter that night at a plus 1.

Thing I remember was the air pressure blowing you out of the exit doors,,, deadheads LOVED this,,, kept going back in just to be blown out!

My wife went to Syracuse (both her parents also!)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 10/20/2024 - 21:22

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Love the energy of this show. I'm pretty sure I tossed this out for a pick of the day a few years ago. I was not there, but hey.. we make it to the shows we can and hope for magic and a lightning strike or two.

Still, an enjoyable show and how about that Jack Straw. Another one where I wish I was there.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 10/21/2024 - 18:08

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Just finished set 1.
It’s a Miller, but the file on my music player doesn’t have an ID number.
Vocals are pretty weak in some places. The playing seems to be trying to make up for it.
Shakedown poking around now…..

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I would have had fun had I been there.
Drums/Space was good.
I’ll listen to it again.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 11/07/2024 - 01:26

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November 7, 1971
Harding Theater, San Francisco, California

Deadicated to bolo24, because I will not follow where the path may lead, but I will go where there is no path, and I will leave a trail……

Great and classic show and a long-time personal favorite. It has pretty much everything you could ask of the Dead in this era. Rockers, Cowboy songs, hot jams, the unusual coupling of Dark Star and The Other One, an unbelievably smoking NFA transition jam (maybe the best ever?), plus even the often-expected equipment difficulties, AND jokes from the audience! The circulating broadcast copies are excellent quality and highly recommended. The band sounds loose, and the crowd sounds juiced. OK yes there’s no Pigpen, but still highly highly recommended, a classic of the first rank!!

Rock on!!
Doc
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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 11/07/2024 - 04:22

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I didn't see the notice about the next Bear's Journal, John Hammond.

If you missed too, it's available on Amazon and Bear's site.

Okay, seems like we need a pick.

How about 10/19/72 from the glorious LTTR Box? Love this box.

Good to see this box finally sold out. We need to make sure these all sell out in order to keep the train rolling.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/11/2024 - 19:04

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Might take me more than a day though, but I'm in.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 11/12/2024 - 20:18

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Thanks Jim.
Another fantastic show from the Fox!
There is something about these shows. Might be the Birdsong that adds to the overall enjoyment.
Can you imagine if they played Birdsong in Europe that year?

Taking my time with the new box, so it is fun to jump around, which is so fun with all this incredible music.

Can we add a fifth release in December? Call it For the Faithful Volume 1.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 11/14/2024 - 16:06

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Anniversary today.
It’s a RT Bonus Disc.

Expected that Doc would have pointed that out.
Maybe he did on another page.

Yes, the LTTR Box is glorious.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Fri, 11/15/2024 - 04:45

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Mornin' rockers! And happy Friday!

Fell asleep yesterday so forgot all about TCU. But I did remember it's an underrated show..........

Austin, Texas, November 15, 1971. Brings back fond memories of my tape trading days, when I had an unbelievably good copy of the FM broadcast. Starts high with strong Truckin', throw in a sweet first set Dark Star, a fiery NFA transition jam, and the usual country/western/new material suspects, and there you have it!! Really fine, very enjoyable show that is worthy of its official release status.

Of course, November 15 1972 will also do nicely...............

We're on this planet for the briefest of moments in cosmic terms, and I want to spend that time thinking about what I consider the deepest questions. LIke, what's for lunch?

Rock on!

Doc
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