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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #5621
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    What are we listening to??

    I am not sure. Something off the beaten path perhaps..

    Somebody was blasting Staying Alive from a raft on the river Friday (decent, loud portable waterproof speakers are seemingly everywhere these days). Something as far away from that horror movie of a song as one can possibly get. I spent the last 30 years trying to get as musically far away from that sound as humanly possible. Yet.. once a year or so someone decides it's ok to play? argh.. :D

    Primal? Something with It's a Man's Man's World? 91 with Bruce or do we concede to disco GD style and pick something with a rippin' Shakedown?

    I actually don't care so long as it's not disco. Any show's anyone has been itching to hear?

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    Modified Wolf

    I think Jerry got the Modified Wolf back in Fall '77 so it's probably the inlayed Wolf you're hearing :)

    10/11/77 is killer, I might keep playing it. As I only gave it a cursory glance yesterday. Tempo on LIG is crazy time, they're hard charging.

    Also for any geeked out collectors like.. all of you.
    Dave L posted some uncirculated SBD portions of 4/29/77 on Taper's Section this AM.

    At least 2 tracks haven't circulated before from what I can tell.
    4/29/77 is a hot show and DL seems to be a fan.
    He's been playing bits and pieces on the Taper's Section for years now and I've been trying to gobble them up as soon as I find them and have done.
    3 Tracks are also on Digital Download Series Volume 1.

    I think that'll be getting a play today.

    What you all gonna listen too?

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    Relistened to 10/11/77

    I forget.. is Jerry playing the Travis Bean or the Wolf on these shows? I think the return of Wolf but I forget.

    Listened on two different systems. I am sonically dyslexic tonight.. I cannot determine if sounds too thin or just right and I need to wake up the family to truly enjoy it. My headphone listen did not help..

    I also think this release would benefit from a remaster, but it could be my ears and my equipment.

    I also stand behind my early to mid 80's comment. He is a man possessed at times.

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    10-11-77 Let It Grow

    yes, a favorite version - as you say "absolutely cooking" - a highlight from that release. Got me thinking that I didn't recall any from spring tour and sure enough they took a break from song from early Oct. '76 until Fall Tour '77. hadn't picked up on that gap before.

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    Let It Grow

    A great song.. I'm a big fan from all era's. I do like the intensity in Jerry's playing on some of the later versions. Mid 80's and 89/90 come to mind. I also like how the midi can work with that song when they tweak it just right.

    Anyway.. agree, great tune with or without the WRS intro.

    Edit, I would add if you judge the song simply on Jerry's playing this one's similar to Jack Straw. Up to a point, the more it got played the more ferocious and incendiary the guitar. In one of my early shows, forget which one it was the Let It Grow that I left me slack jawed and scratching my head when the dust settled after the first set. And about six months later I got either the same tape or one from the same tour and I just couldn't get enough of it for the next 8 to 12 months.

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    For me it's probably a toss up between the DP 33 Franklin's Tower and the Go To Nassau version, which was my first. Yeah, they're all good, but Jerry is particularly loud and animated on these two performances. Good suggestion on Day at the Green.

    Speaking of Help / Slip / Franklin's, today is the anniversary of the last one they played in the 70's (Road Trips '77). I think this one went out with more of a fizzle than a bang, at least as far as Slipknot! was concerned (there's not too far to go in 4 minutes - possibly an all time short after '75) . I think the Franklin's Tower is decent, and actually has a great jam /solo toward the end, but there were a lot of steamrollers prior to 10/11, so it had those to live up to by comparison. They didn't play the triad much at all compared to Scarlet Fire (almost double) or Estimated-Eyes (I didn't count this pairing but I'm pretty sure it received a lot more play). This is odd to me, but they did a lot of odd things with their song rotations. But there you have it - this is the day. I was lucky enough to catch them play Help /Slip / Franklin's for the last time with Jerry up in Albany, June 22, 1995. Funny thing about that show is I had no idea Jerry was in poor health and I though it was great. The video doesn't confirm this, but it just goes to show you how much different it is being there.

    Speaking of 10/11/77 - the Let it Grow absolutely cooks - top 3 post-hiatus versions for me. Go figure.

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    Lao Tsu said..

    When nothing is done, nothing is left undone.

    Suits my personality to a tee!

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    Glad I’m not the only one!

    Jim, sounds like we use similar methodology: I really don’t feel like doing this, but I have too, and I don’t have much time, so let’s mess things up rushing, so now it can take three times as long as going slow and doing it right once, lol
    You should see my Swiss cheesed basement. Had to move my surround wires, thought, meh, 2 three holes with the 6” hole saw, pop em back in and mud em, no problem....cue the Gilligan island song!

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    Ooops.. I forgot

    I forgot we did Day on the Green already. Just rolling with the flow. I am behind anyway.. pesky work and bad cuts for my exterior trim means I have to both do my day job a little and redo some work I did earlier in the week. Redoing always longer than just doing things right in the first place. Argh.. I knew better and in the interest of expediency, I am taking a project that was time consuming enough to begin with and quadrupling the time it will ultimately end up taking.

    But at least I have good music to listen to when I unwind tonight.

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    Not sure I’m familiar with 10/9/82, 10/10 has always been a favorite. A top LL Rain fo sho...

    DP 33, just did this, but it’s new for me so I’ll try in sneak er in...

    HAMPTON 89: still reeling from last night. After doing 10/8 again during the day as I continue to make a big mess of my basement theater room lol. Did 10/9 at night, proper, including a little chocolate for the first time since this darkness. Too nervous too get that loose I guess? Haven’t felt comfortable freaking freely...Man it’s funny how fast your tolerance can go away lol. Same with beer as I didn’t partake of any alcohol for 8 weeks. Had 2 last Friday and felt like five! It’s starting to come back again, like riding a bike lol, but I’m going to try and keep it on low. Shit is just getting too hard on the worn out organs etc. Anyway, got in a real nice warm groove and listened on the big boy system, smooothh indeed!
    Forgot how great these shows are, though I can understand how some folks see em similar to Cornell regarding the hype. Meaning their great shows but if you weren’t there or didn’t know anything about them you might not be quite as enthusiastic? Sorry, not coming out right? But I totally don’t understand how so many are nonplussed by these shows? I do feel that similarly to say 3/27/88 or 10/14/83, the recording doesn’t quite do the show justice...if I hadn’t been there I’m sure I wouldn’t feel that way, but it just seems a little compressed? Doesn't breath enough?
    Though I wasn’t at Jersey, I still think maybe 10/16 is overall at least the best show released so far, if not the best of the tour? That of course is subjective/debatable, but I listened to the 10/16 Dark Star immediately after Hampton and I think it sounds better audio wise at least. Definitely think I like the Hampton Dark Star better, including the 10/26 which I went to following 10/16. The first two are technically better, and Jer flubs the second verse a bit on 10/26, but man that last 10 minutes of weirdness that follows is awesome! So much psychedelic gooey madness on this tour. It amazes me how this tour kinda goes under the radar? Summer 89 and spring 90 get all the love, but I’ll take fall 89 anytime. Summer is obviously great as evidenced by all the releases, and Weir has always spoke highly of it. And Spring 90 needs no props, but it’s almost too clean, too perfect if you will. The pinnacle of the rise, while fall their still reaching for it. Fall 89 has an element of danger, especially with the midi and effects. It’s not so new that their still figuring it out, but it’s still new enough that their going for it, experimenting, and learning to normalize it like any other technology in their arsenal. I think Gollum or someone kinda touched on this. It’s such a good tour, I’m really looking forward to getting to know all the shows.

    GENNY CREAM ALE: too funny! Genessee was the main stream working mans swill, our fathers generation, we wouldn't touch that shit. (We were hardcore PBR fans)and the Cream Ale was worse, everyone in WNY wouldn’t go there for fear of the dreaded GENNY Screamers lol. For decades it was at the stadium, concerts, they had all the big contracts. Kinda like how New Belgium is here now. Now GCA is micro brew at micro brew prices! Supposedly they’ve made some significant changes. In fact my cousin was at the Brew Pub back in Chrotchfester a few years back and they said it was awesome. Great place and many of the beers were excellent. Not sure he tried the Screamers though?
    So DHBrewer, curious how you liked it?

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

I completely agree.

On occasion and if I'm not careful volume gets the best of me. One day I might live to regret this. Thankfully, that day was not today.

A new one for me. Some sound weirdness especially in and around banter, but what the hey.

I don't know what it is, but I have soft spot for The Eleven, Born Cross-Eyed and especially New Potatoe Caboose. Good show with some vintage grease to end the night with me feeling a little dirtier than I did when I woke up.

If there's no pick for tomorrow, I suggest the next in line. It's a partial, starts with a rare Clementine. 1/20/68 Euraka Municipal Auditorium. I think we should set up a go fund me to find all the missing reels, there's a couple missing from this show. It would be something for them to be found.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 09/06/2024 - 06:15

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Hey Jim, I know you have had a lot on you plate this year. Thanks for checking this one out. Yes, the recording is decent, not great. Like a lot of 88 recordings out there. Still think they have some good ones in the Vault.

I liked the show, anytime I see a Hey Pocky Way, I am in. Nice Shakedown to open the second set. Love the triple Encore with China Rider OMSN.

It is good to get out of the comfort zone once in a while Doc.

Carousel Ballroom 68, okay Jim, Ok will have to que it up this morning.

Enjoy the weekend out there.

Edit. Oh and after the carousel ballroom I will be moving on the 12/9/79, Dave's Picks #47. Love this one and I need some 79. If I had the keys, I would be putting out a big 79 Box.

44 years ago today, there when Roy Buchanan along with Levon and His All Stars opened for the Dead. My last in person show, on the bus since their first album, however things had changed so much.... Doc was there, a wild late summer scene, part of my farewell to Maine.

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-timefavorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solide offical release. It is worthy......

Doc
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Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-time favorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solid official release. It is worthy......

Doc
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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 09/07/2024 - 05:42

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I'm in - hopefully sometime this weekend I can transport my mind and spirit into late summer beautiful day/evening Maine. Sounds like a dream show and setting. Very cool that a couple of you guys got to be there. Didn't realize this was the last show before the Warfield run. Long and heartfelt write up on grateful seconds (he was there). Comment at the end from a guy who was 8 at the time and lived a "bike trail" away from the fairgrounds. Listened to part of the show from his clubhouse. Rode his bike over and snuck in. Totally dug the Drums. Made major bank (for a kid) collecting cans and bottles for deposit afterwards (which is exactly what 8 yr old me would have done.) Think I might travel John Deere with the Jim Wise FOB.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 09/09/2024 - 21:03

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But back this week. I can do Lewiston again.

As I recall there is not a good soundboard that circulates, right? And the one that does is first set only and it sure does sound like an audience (or ultramatrix on steroids at least).

High energy though.. like Gainesville, there must have been something in the water.

You have to wonder if this was recorded and if so where the hell are the master tapes? I think someone (Parrish??) tossed out the language that some of the master reels were left on the seat and when the truck pulled away they must have flown out the window or something.

I'd love to see more reels (and cassettes) returned.

Anyway, Lewiston Me for me tomorrow.

Edit: Started tonight - why not? Gave up on the "soundboard" and settled on the Jim Wise same as Bluecrow. Good news, Bluecrow.. The John Deere Broke down and was sitting in the yard for the last half of the week. I got it working today. Had to replace the solenoid. Damned electronics are always interfering with time travel. Just imagine if this broke back in time before Jebediah Solenoid created the first working model for riding mowers.. we would have been screwed.. I mean, nothing wrong with being stuck in 1980 but why not go back another 10 to 15 years...

High energy is right. Pretty good audience.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 09/10/2024 - 21:33

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While I was in the neighborhood, I took a quickie with 11/28/80 Lakeland Civic Center - Lakeland, FL (30 Trips).

I figured why not.. most enjoyable, especially To Lay Me Down. Not sure why I like that song so much, but I do.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 09/12/2024 - 08:07

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Ah, yes, more 1980. You don't have to twist my arm. A shorter show for the time period, but still really good. Will get it going after I finish up Dicks #36, which was mentioned on some other threads. Such a great show, but apparently didn't sell well at the time. No idea why.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 09/12/2024 - 17:31

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Random Musing - 1980

My favorite non-multi-track 1980 release has got to be Dave's # 8, 11/30/80 Fox Theater. Love how that Matrix worked out. If anyone remembers the seaside chat, he was spot on.

Crowd noise was not as big an issue in 1980 as they could play in some pretty intimate venues. Also, as the age of the cassette master replaced the lovely Ms. Cantor Jackson, a lot of those early soundboards are a bit sterile sounding without the crystalline highs and the booming lows. Blending those early 80's soundboards with one of those near perfect audience masters works. When they aged out of the smaller, cooler venues (thinking after Jerry's coma and In The Dark) audience tapes had to compete with hundreds of the guy next to you screaming "JERRY!!" at 95 decibels, this was no longer possible.

That SBD/Dr. Bob matrix is almost exactly perfect (or as good we are going to get for the time).

On the opposite side of the same coin, I think some of the Ultra Matrix's have a bit too much of the guy yelling JERRY! then I sometimes want to hear. Thinking a lot of 87 suffers from this, and by then the audience tapes were no better.

Anyway, if Mr. Norman can pull of similar wizardry I wish they would do more like DaP#8.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Tue, 09/24/2024 - 04:20

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Mornin', rockers!!!

Pick of the day? September 24, 1972. Because..............Dark Star!

Minor rain storm headed my way................

The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils......

Rock on!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 09/29/2024 - 13:45

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It's an early audience, but contains one of the few Seven's that were recorded.

09/29/69 Cafe au Go-Go - New York City, NY

It's no betty board, but an interesting inflection point in GD history, so maybe worthy of our time. Primal GD on the heels of WMD Americana GD.

Despite the recording quality, it's pretty good for a 1969 audience. Worth the trip for the Seven alone. Plus, it's pretty short. Something different, something quick, and well, it's really something.

So why not mix it up with a shortie from the fall of 1969.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 09/30/2024 - 07:20

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Will mix this in as I listen to the new box today. Thanks Jim.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 10/04/2024 - 19:03

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Been a while, just wanted to say hello. Watching the Dark Star from 10/18/74, cool to see video of Ned on stage, as well as see Jerry interact with the head nod. Enjoyed the April 78 release. With the 50th anniversary of the Winterland shows a few weeks away, doesn't look like anything is happening. Be good everyone. Bob t

Hey Bob T, how have you been man? Hope all is well.
Yes, love that bonus footage from the GDM soundtrack. Might be one of my favorite UJB.
I have been traveling for work this week so still haven't made a dent in the new box, but loving it so.far.
Good thing there is no rush at this point.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 10/14/2024 - 12:43

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Hope everyone is enjoying the new box set. Really enjoying it so far over here.

If anyone is interested in a pick, it has been a while, how about 5/16/81, Barton Hall from the 30 Trips box?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 10/14/2024 - 16:19

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Started playing it last night and finished it tonight.

Good call DV.
And I’m having a Bell’s Octoberfest too. They’re gone from the store but I have 5 more cans in the fridge.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 10/14/2024 - 21:40

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Nice Conekid, must be esp.

Enjoyed the show again, nice Shakedown Bertha, Sailor Saint. Show ends with that audience patch.

Enjoy the last few Octoberfests. Still have a couple six packs to get through. Would buy a few more but the self life of this beer is only 3 months and it goes bad fast.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sat, 10/19/2024 - 03:33

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Good morning fellow rockers!!!

October 19, 1971

The second great seismic shift of 1971. The Yang to the Yin of February 18. Similar, yet different. Old, yet new. A vision of the new era. Change can be for good if you combine audacity with safety………

An old friend missing, a new guy who seems to fit in right away. Six new songs. The return of the complete CE/TOO/CE suite. The unusual occurrence of back-to-back Garcia songs twice in the first set. The first of the Fall 1971 FM broadcasts. One of only two 1971 shows that featured both Black Peter and Brokedown Palace. There ain’t no grease, but there’s plenty of Bakersfield left, as well as big jams.

Not without its rough edges, yet somehow it hangs together oh so well. Absolutely historic and worthy of a serious listen……

Rock on!!
Doc
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Morning, rockers!!

This is for AJS. He'll know what I'm talking about...........

October 20, 1984, Carrier Dome. The last show we saw on that tour, maybe not Augusta level but very enjoyable. We had a great time. Maybe it was the liquid 25, courtesy of Deadhead Fred, a little drop'll do ya!!

Or maybe it was the music. Worth a listen!!!

If I had known being insane was so much fun, I'd have gone crazy long ago.....

Rock on,

Doc
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10-20-84 - Syracuse

I was there also, think I met doc in the bathroom during drums,,, he was wearing a tie-dye :-)

My records show we rated Jack Straw at end of set one, a plus 2. Also second set opener of Shakedown got a plus 2 rating from our crew. We have the Black Peter that night at a plus 1.

Thing I remember was the air pressure blowing you out of the exit doors,,, deadheads LOVED this,,, kept going back in just to be blown out!

My wife went to Syracuse (both her parents also!)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 10/20/2024 - 21:22

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Love the energy of this show. I'm pretty sure I tossed this out for a pick of the day a few years ago. I was not there, but hey.. we make it to the shows we can and hope for magic and a lightning strike or two.

Still, an enjoyable show and how about that Jack Straw. Another one where I wish I was there.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 10/21/2024 - 18:08

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Just finished set 1.
It’s a Miller, but the file on my music player doesn’t have an ID number.
Vocals are pretty weak in some places. The playing seems to be trying to make up for it.
Shakedown poking around now…..

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I would have had fun had I been there.
Drums/Space was good.
I’ll listen to it again.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 11/07/2024 - 01:26

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November 7, 1971
Harding Theater, San Francisco, California

Deadicated to bolo24, because I will not follow where the path may lead, but I will go where there is no path, and I will leave a trail……

Great and classic show and a long-time personal favorite. It has pretty much everything you could ask of the Dead in this era. Rockers, Cowboy songs, hot jams, the unusual coupling of Dark Star and The Other One, an unbelievably smoking NFA transition jam (maybe the best ever?), plus even the often-expected equipment difficulties, AND jokes from the audience! The circulating broadcast copies are excellent quality and highly recommended. The band sounds loose, and the crowd sounds juiced. OK yes there’s no Pigpen, but still highly highly recommended, a classic of the first rank!!

Rock on!!
Doc
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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 11/07/2024 - 04:22

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I didn't see the notice about the next Bear's Journal, John Hammond.

If you missed too, it's available on Amazon and Bear's site.

Okay, seems like we need a pick.

How about 10/19/72 from the glorious LTTR Box? Love this box.

Good to see this box finally sold out. We need to make sure these all sell out in order to keep the train rolling.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/11/2024 - 19:04

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Might take me more than a day though, but I'm in.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 11/12/2024 - 20:18

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Thanks Jim.
Another fantastic show from the Fox!
There is something about these shows. Might be the Birdsong that adds to the overall enjoyment.
Can you imagine if they played Birdsong in Europe that year?

Taking my time with the new box, so it is fun to jump around, which is so fun with all this incredible music.

Can we add a fifth release in December? Call it For the Faithful Volume 1.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 11/14/2024 - 16:06

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Anniversary today.
It’s a RT Bonus Disc.

Expected that Doc would have pointed that out.
Maybe he did on another page.

Yes, the LTTR Box is glorious.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Fri, 11/15/2024 - 04:45

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Mornin' rockers! And happy Friday!

Fell asleep yesterday so forgot all about TCU. But I did remember it's an underrated show..........

Austin, Texas, November 15, 1971. Brings back fond memories of my tape trading days, when I had an unbelievably good copy of the FM broadcast. Starts high with strong Truckin', throw in a sweet first set Dark Star, a fiery NFA transition jam, and the usual country/western/new material suspects, and there you have it!! Really fine, very enjoyable show that is worthy of its official release status.

Of course, November 15 1972 will also do nicely...............

We're on this planet for the briefest of moments in cosmic terms, and I want to spend that time thinking about what I consider the deepest questions. LIke, what's for lunch?

Rock on!

Doc
On a cosmic scale, our life is insignificant, yet this brief period when we appear in the world is the time in which all meaningful questions arise......