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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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October 13, 2020 - 6:17pm

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KeithFan2112

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4/24/78 Back To Normal

My first Dave's Picks. Bought it off EBAY right around the time DAP 11 was released. I read about the 2.5 minute jam in Music Never Stopped on Heady Version; the jam starts at 3:20 and is absolutuely mesmerizing. It's the only reason I bought the CD. I had no intention of buying anymore two tracks, but my need to have the best live version of everything is overwhelming sometimes. And of course I later found out there are no best versions only several best versions. But this one is hot.

The Music Never Stopped jam used to be non-existent, but by October '77 Road Trips you can hear a pretty good one, as well as DP 18. There are some other good ones out there in '78 but, I think this is the MOAB.
October 13, 2020 - 4:52pm

#5602

DeadVikes

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And Big River

And at the beginning of Big River. This is a good show. Really like the It Must Have been the Roses, Passenger. Solid Scarlet Fire, Black Peter, Werewolves of London encore is fun.
October 13, 2020 - 4:29pm

#5603

JimInMD

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Staying Alive Tease

I completely forgot about that. Let's just be thankful they changed their mind.
October 13, 2020 - 4:09pm

#5604

The Good Ole G…

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Stayin' Alive

Nice little Stayin' Alive tease right before MAMU for you Jim.

Or was that part of the plan Slow Dog Noodle?

Either way, pretty funny.
October 13, 2020 - 12:23pm

#5605

Oroborous

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Ketchup

Sorry, been slacking here trying to get some work on my theater finished.
FALL 73: I did finish that last week. Believe I left off with a fine 9/21/73 Rectum show.
From what I can recall lol, 9/24&26/73 were pretty similar, actually, not surprisingly, not a lot of variety on this tour in general. Makes sense considering the focus on the new material and the use of supplementary musicians for this new material.
In fact, the biggest trend I noticed on this mini tour, was that by the end, all “that” was relegated to the last part of the show, with the horn guys only on Eyes, WRS, and Sugar Magnolia. Early on, besides the aforementioned, they were on Truckin’ and occasionally elsewhere, and of course Let Me Sing. It’s a shame that one fell by the wayside but I’m guessing Keith’s shyness and having to be the front man singing was just never going to work?
Anyway, Boo fa falo had a nice Here’s Comes a Sunshine, and I believe the tours only Sing Me Back Home, while the Burg had a nobodies, and of course overall many nice status quo Playin’s on the tour. Really glad I finally went through these, shitty tapes and all, interesting tour and yet another cool adventure by the boys to take it furthur!

I can see why this probably wouldn’t get a full box treatment, but considering the historical elements, the new material, and the fine playing you would think a small 2-3 show release would be appropriate. I agree with the consensus that 9/11/73 is a must. All the above greatness while fresh and obviously fun for them, with a sweet Dark Star too. All that’s missing is a HCS! Next I’d say I concur with brother Bluecrow about 9/17/73 at Syracuse, with perhaps one from either Pittsburg or Buffalo thrown in to document the tour/horn/set list progression. So glad I finally went there, can’t believe it took me so long especially since fall/winter 73 has long been one of my top say five tours. It’s like a nice appetizer for that giant feast that followed!
Ok, speaking of favorite tours, on to FALL 89.

Did 10/11&12/89 2/3 times over the last couple days while I made a mess of my basement lol.
Main thing I can say is it’s tough to follow those Hampton shows! Both 11&12 are good status quo 89 shows (mostly good, a few lesser moments too), but overall enjoyable sets, playing, energy etc, but I kept saying to myself, especially for 9/11 “these are hangover shows”.....You can literally feel the “elephant” and it’s energy have left the room so to speak. But since there has to be a “next” show, in typical GD workmen like fashion, they pick up the load and carry on.
Like a Monday after a big party/reunion weekend!
So far on the tour Jers been pretty strong and consistent, Bob, not so much? Brent was good in Hampton, but not as much here, even my fav Little light is perhaps that? Decent Pockey way and mostly good support work...enjoyed that whole sequence on 10/12 with an always fun second set Cumberland! Bob tries to steal one of Jerry’s versus which lends a palpable lift to the overall vibe such that you feel them all smiling at each other and it makes you smile too. I love these little nuances that shine through the Dead’s music.
So perhaps these aren’t top shelf, If they lived in a different space not related to the shows around them, meaning taken on there own, their enjoyable enough, and of course have some of the nice weirdness that was a highlight throughout most of the tour. The drumz/space/midi sequences where awesome if your into that? But if I was constructing a box for this tour I’d could see not needing to include them....
Next night it’s Bob and Jer on Letterman, and then back to the swamps of Jersey for 10/14, with a nice first set closing Help-Slip-Franks and I believe a solid second set? Have this one on tape, but not too familiar with....
Probably try and give the 14&15 a few spins over the next couple days with a big Friday rave up of the mighty Nightfall of Diamonds 10/16/89 blockbuster! I still think overall this is one of the best single live releases ever, yet it seems to really fall under the radar? I think maybe the sound is the best of the 4 releases so far, but I’m getting ahead of myself.
Ok, caught up....Onward!

Oh, other catch ups:

BIG THANKS to Bluecrow! Outta nowhere he remembered something I said I was missing months ago and when he found an extra, generously sent it my way! Amazing, thoughtful and a dose of just what the world needs, kindness!

CASEYJ: another big shout out to you too, I don’t care what anybody says your awright!
Oh, and with the holidaze shopping season coming up, he does fine dye work, especially if your looking for custom Chefs themed apparel....
October 13, 2020 - 9:44am

#5606

Gollum

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4/24/78 & Oct 89

No need to twist my arm to spin the great 4/24/78. Meanwhile, I will follow Oroborous footsteps into Oct 89. Now that I've turned on to the Warlocks shows, I feel the doors have been opened for all of Oct 89. I had forgotten that we have 10/16/89 in multitrack glory ("Nightfall of Diamonds"). That's another one I've neglected. I've barely even listened to that one. And then the great grand finale of 10/26 - this should be fun. Gooey psychedelic goodness, indeed. Looking forward to any other tour reports, Oro.
October 13, 2020 - 6:47am

#5607

JimInMD

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Ha..

Completely agree cone kid. But that song seems to never go away, it just rattles around in your head.. sort of like stepping on a big wad of gum, it's annoying and takes way too long for it to go away.

My comments on the Download Series are the same as they were 14 years ago.. I feel they could have done more with the sound. Either that or the masters were not AAA+ Blue Chip. Still good shows and I use them occasionally when I want to go down the path less travelled.
October 13, 2020 - 4:46am

#5608

icecrmcnkd

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Staying Alive, Disco

Far more tolerable than rap/hip hop and twangy country.

Bring on some Disco Dead.
October 12, 2020 - 6:22pm

#5609

DeadVikes

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Must be that Staying Alive Reference

Thanks Jim, a little 69 for a change of pace sounds good. And Dave's Picks #7 for tomorrow sounds great. 4/24/78!
October 12, 2020 - 4:35pm

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JimInMD

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4/24

Works for tomorrow..

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

68 and Loud

I completely agree.

On occasion and if I'm not careful volume gets the best of me. One day I might live to regret this. Thankfully, that day was not today.

A new one for me. Some sound weirdness especially in and around banter, but what the hey.

I don't know what it is, but I have soft spot for The Eleven, Born Cross-Eyed and especially New Potatoe Caboose. Good show with some vintage grease to end the night with me feeling a little dirtier than I did when I woke up.

If there's no pick for tomorrow, I suggest the next in line. It's a partial, starts with a rare Clementine. 1/20/68 Euraka Municipal Auditorium. I think we should set up a go fund me to find all the missing reels, there's a couple missing from this show. It would be something for them to be found.

4/30/88 at the Frost

Hey Jim, I know you have had a lot on you plate this year. Thanks for checking this one out. Yes, the recording is decent, not great. Like a lot of 88 recordings out there. Still think they have some good ones in the Vault.

I liked the show, anytime I see a Hey Pocky Way, I am in. Nice Shakedown to open the second set. Love the triple Encore with China Rider OMSN.

It is good to get out of the comfort zone once in a while Doc.

Carousel Ballroom 68, okay Jim, Ok will have to que it up this morning.

Enjoy the weekend out there.

Edit. Oh and after the carousel ballroom I will be moving on the 12/9/79, Dave's Picks #47. Love this one and I need some 79. If I had the keys, I would be putting out a big 79 Box.

Lewiston, for your consideration

44 years ago today, there when Roy Buchanan along with Levon and His All Stars opened for the Dead. My last in person show, on the bus since their first album, however things had changed so much.... Doc was there, a wild late summer scene, part of my farewell to Maine.

All is worthwhile if the soul is not small.....

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-timefavorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solide offical release. It is worthy......

Doc
Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile, I caught hell for.....

All is worthwhile if the soul is not small.....

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-time favorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solid official release. It is worthy......

Doc
Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile, I caught hell for.....

9/6/80

Hey DMCVT,

Love this show and will get it going again this weekend.

And yes, it would make a great releasen.

Pretty sweet you and Doc were there.

9/6/80 Lewiston

I'm in - hopefully sometime this weekend I can transport my mind and spirit into late summer beautiful day/evening Maine. Sounds like a dream show and setting. Very cool that a couple of you guys got to be there. Didn't realize this was the last show before the Warfield run. Long and heartfelt write up on grateful seconds (he was there). Comment at the end from a guy who was 8 at the time and lived a "bike trail" away from the fairgrounds. Listened to part of the show from his clubhouse. Rode his bike over and snuck in. Totally dug the Drums. Made major bank (for a kid) collecting cans and bottles for deposit afterwards (which is exactly what 8 yr old me would have done.) Think I might travel John Deere with the Jim Wise FOB.

Been Gone

But back this week. I can do Lewiston again.

As I recall there is not a good soundboard that circulates, right? And the one that does is first set only and it sure does sound like an audience (or ultramatrix on steroids at least).

High energy though.. like Gainesville, there must have been something in the water.

You have to wonder if this was recorded and if so where the hell are the master tapes? I think someone (Parrish??) tossed out the language that some of the master reels were left on the seat and when the truck pulled away they must have flown out the window or something.

I'd love to see more reels (and cassettes) returned.

Anyway, Lewiston Me for me tomorrow.

Edit: Started tonight - why not? Gave up on the "soundboard" and settled on the Jim Wise same as Bluecrow. Good news, Bluecrow.. The John Deere Broke down and was sitting in the yard for the last half of the week. I got it working today. Had to replace the solenoid. Damned electronics are always interfering with time travel. Just imagine if this broke back in time before Jebediah Solenoid created the first working model for riding mowers.. we would have been screwed.. I mean, nothing wrong with being stuck in 1980 but why not go back another 10 to 15 years...

High energy is right. Pretty good audience.

Follow-Up

While I was in the neighborhood, I took a quickie with 11/28/80 Lakeland Civic Center - Lakeland, FL (30 Trips).

I figured why not.. most enjoyable, especially To Lay Me Down. Not sure why I like that song so much, but I do.

More 1980

Ah, yes, more 1980. You don't have to twist my arm. A shorter show for the time period, but still really good. Will get it going after I finish up Dicks #36, which was mentioned on some other threads. Such a great show, but apparently didn't sell well at the time. No idea why.

My Favorite Non-Multi-Track 1980 Release

Random Musing - 1980

My favorite non-multi-track 1980 release has got to be Dave's # 8, 11/30/80 Fox Theater. Love how that Matrix worked out. If anyone remembers the seaside chat, he was spot on.

Crowd noise was not as big an issue in 1980 as they could play in some pretty intimate venues. Also, as the age of the cassette master replaced the lovely Ms. Cantor Jackson, a lot of those early soundboards are a bit sterile sounding without the crystalline highs and the booming lows. Blending those early 80's soundboards with one of those near perfect audience masters works. When they aged out of the smaller, cooler venues (thinking after Jerry's coma and In The Dark) audience tapes had to compete with hundreds of the guy next to you screaming "JERRY!!" at 95 decibels, this was no longer possible.

That SBD/Dr. Bob matrix is almost exactly perfect (or as good we are going to get for the time).

On the opposite side of the same coin, I think some of the Ultra Matrix's have a bit too much of the guy yelling JERRY! then I sometimes want to hear. Thinking a lot of 87 suffers from this, and by then the audience tapes were no better.

Anyway, if Mr. Norman can pull of similar wizardry I wish they would do more like DaP#8.

Being that it’s the anniversary

9-16-90 playing now.

Wonder what the Black Friday RSD release will be.

Music comes from a place we don't know...........

Mornin', rockers!!!

Pick of the day? September 24, 1972. Because..............Dark Star!

Minor rain storm headed my way................

The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils......

Rock on!

Doc
Music comes from an icicle as it melts, to live again as spring water......

9/24/72

Oh yes, this is a great show, I am in.
Thanks Doc.

Why Not

It's an early audience, but contains one of the few Seven's that were recorded.

09/29/69 Cafe au Go-Go - New York City, NY

It's no betty board, but an interesting inflection point in GD history, so maybe worthy of our time. Primal GD on the heels of WMD Americana GD.

Despite the recording quality, it's pretty good for a 1969 audience. Worth the trip for the Seven alone. Plus, it's pretty short. Something different, something quick, and well, it's really something.

So why not mix it up with a shortie from the fall of 1969.

9/29/69

Will mix this in as I listen to the new box today. Thanks Jim.

Hope everyone had a good summer

Been a while, just wanted to say hello. Watching the Dark Star from 10/18/74, cool to see video of Ned on stage, as well as see Jerry interact with the head nod. Enjoyed the April 78 release. With the 50th anniversary of the Winterland shows a few weeks away, doesn't look like anything is happening. Be good everyone. Bob t

Bob T

Hey Bob T, how have you been man? Hope all is well.
Yes, love that bonus footage from the GDM soundtrack. Might be one of my favorite UJB.
I have been traveling for work this week so still haven't made a dent in the new box, but loving it so.far.
Good thing there is no rush at this point.

Picks

Hope everyone is enjoying the new box set. Really enjoying it so far over here.

If anyone is interested in a pick, it has been a while, how about 5/16/81, Barton Hall from the 30 Trips box?

5-16-81

Started playing it last night and finished it tonight.

Good call DV.
And I’m having a Bell’s Octoberfest too. They’re gone from the store but I have 5 more cans in the fridge.

Conekid

Nice Conekid, must be esp.

Enjoyed the show again, nice Shakedown Bertha, Sailor Saint. Show ends with that audience patch.

Enjoy the last few Octoberfests. Still have a couple six packs to get through. Would buy a few more but the self life of this beer is only 3 months and it goes bad fast.

Change alone is eternal, perpetual, immortal…..

Good morning fellow rockers!!!

October 19, 1971

The second great seismic shift of 1971. The Yang to the Yin of February 18. Similar, yet different. Old, yet new. A vision of the new era. Change can be for good if you combine audacity with safety………

An old friend missing, a new guy who seems to fit in right away. Six new songs. The return of the complete CE/TOO/CE suite. The unusual occurrence of back-to-back Garcia songs twice in the first set. The first of the Fall 1971 FM broadcasts. One of only two 1971 shows that featured both Black Peter and Brokedown Palace. There ain’t no grease, but there’s plenty of Bakersfield left, as well as big jams.

Not without its rough edges, yet somehow it hangs together oh so well. Absolutely historic and worthy of a serious listen……

Rock on!!
Doc
He who rejects change is the architect of decay, the only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery………

10/19/71

Oh, yes, Doc this is a good show at the University of Minnesota at the Northrup Auditorium. Good idea.

Some may never live, but the crazy never die.....

Morning, rockers!!

This is for AJS. He'll know what I'm talking about...........

October 20, 1984, Carrier Dome. The last show we saw on that tour, maybe not Augusta level but very enjoyable. We had a great time. Maybe it was the liquid 25, courtesy of Deadhead Fred, a little drop'll do ya!!

Or maybe it was the music. Worth a listen!!!

If I had known being insane was so much fun, I'd have gone crazy long ago.....

Rock on,

Doc
No one can drive us crazy unless we give them the keys......

Doc & Angry Jack

10-20-84 - Syracuse

I was there also, think I met doc in the bathroom during drums,,, he was wearing a tie-dye :-)

My records show we rated Jack Straw at end of set one, a plus 2. Also second set opener of Shakedown got a plus 2 rating from our crew. We have the Black Peter that night at a plus 1.

Thing I remember was the air pressure blowing you out of the exit doors,,, deadheads LOVED this,,, kept going back in just to be blown out!

My wife went to Syracuse (both her parents also!)

Carrier Dome

Love the energy of this show. I'm pretty sure I tossed this out for a pick of the day a few years ago. I was not there, but hey.. we make it to the shows we can and hope for magic and a lightning strike or two.

Still, an enjoyable show and how about that Jack Straw. Another one where I wish I was there.

10-20-84 playing now

Just finished set 1.
It’s a Miller, but the file on my music player doesn’t have an ID number.
Vocals are pretty weak in some places. The playing seems to be trying to make up for it.
Shakedown poking around now…..

Edit:
I would have had fun had I been there.
Drums/Space was good.
I’ll listen to it again.