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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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October 12, 2022 - 10:06am

#1661

DeadVikes

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10/12/84

Rolling.

Thanks.
October 12, 2022 - 7:33am

#1662

JimInMD

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When I Need to Get Things Done...

and the Coffee is not strong enough.. I reach for Augusta. Great workout music, great on the river.. high energy GD. Yes, it's mid 80's, ragged at times, the recording, although decent for the era, is inconsistent, I think there's a few well-made audience patches throughout.

It's rough around the edges, but listen to Jerry's work throughout the PITB tease, UJB>...>PITB>UJB>Morning Dew.
He's a man on a mission. The effort more than makes up for the shaggy presentation.

I'm in.

DMCVT, your neck of the woods is on my short list.. maybe next year.
October 12, 2022 - 6:21am

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wilfredtjones

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knife's edge

Shoot my vertigo was just triggered. 10-12-84 anniversary listen? Sure, I'll tune in... :-) :-) :-)
October 12, 2022 - 5:16am

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dmcvt

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Ktaadn

Greetings Doc! Much enjoying your 80s suggestions after your deep and comprehensive 1971. Left Maine in 1980 after living there for ten years, moved to Vermont to an area you know from living here as well. That made the 1980 Lewiston show my last direct encounter with our band. Promise the soul is there year round. Have explored and hiked much of it, would suggest that those interested in the soul of Maine read Henry David Thoreau's book Ktaadn. Thoreau found his trancendental approach challenged by the formidable hike he took there in 1846 and the hike has not changed, very rugged and totally amazing to cross the peaks on the Knife Edge trail a few feet wide with a thousand foot drop to either side. The northern terminus of the Appalachian Trail, it's not the Rockies, but about as good as mountains get on the east coast. Or go out to one of the more remote islands, like Monhegan a little off season.
October 12, 2022 - 1:27am

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Forensicdoceleven

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Maine is a joy in the summer.,,,,,,,

Hey rockers!!

Pick Of The Day: Augusta, Maine October 12 1984

This is for Wilfred T Jones. And everybody else, especially those of us who were there……

This was our best, favorite, most fun show of the 80s. Dead center, about 30 feet back, didn’t get crushed, excellent 25, a night to remember!! We had seen some good shows in the Spring 83-Summer 84 period, but frankly, this concert restored our faith in Good Old Grateful Dead.

I’ve said it before, and will say it again, for the rest of our touring careers, after this show we were chasing Augusta. We never got back to that space in time, but it wasn’t for lack of trying………..

Give it a listen, there’s a reason it was on 30 Trips………….

Rock on!

Doc
But the soul of Maine is more apparent in the winter…………….
October 11, 2022 - 7:55am

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Oroborous

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Ha, vocals, vocals, vocals

or Marsha, Marsha, Marsha…
I didn’t think they were that bad?
But, unless he’s got a cold and is having troubles the whole show, it doesn’t really bother me, in fact, often he try’s to make up for it by singing his heart out. Ragged but right!
And yaasssss, the playing is ripping and the energy is almost too high!
If you didn’t know better you might think it a east coast show.
I had never heard the 27, the 28th I’ve had for years.

The 27th does have a fine first set with fun set lists, Agree WTJ the transition from Scarlet to Eyes looks better on paper than in person, but after some many decades I like unusual set lists.
Perhaps not the best of 85, but a fine WE non the less!
Nice to see Doc venture out of his niche, hope he does it some more!

4/11/89: the Shakedown plods a little at first but picks up nicely. Nice little BTL mini set in there.
Overall status quo spring 89, good, but not…quite…there…yet?
I snuck in the first set of 4/9 which I still can’t believe I didn’t go to. So I don’t think I’ve eve4 heard it?

Ok off to the mine, probably will try to finish 10/2/72 that I started last week…
October 10, 2022 - 4:37pm

#1667

JimInMD

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There's always the vocals...

But I still liked the energy and Jerry's guitar work.
October 10, 2022 - 7:52am

#1668

DeadVikes

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WTJ

Nice work WTJ. Yes, Jerry was on and off during this period. You know the story.
October 10, 2022 - 4:51am

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wilfredtjones

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Frost 85

I wanted to give these shows a closer headphone listen especially considering Doc’s rare 80’s (90’s next?) recommendation. It’s going to be mixed around a little bit (like me), but here’s my review for DeadVikes. The new clugston/miller transfers/uploads don't disappoint. Especially in the drumz segments, but also in random spots of songs like Throwing Stones. Once it’s dialed in the main sources are clear and satisfying throughout.

Be prepared Jerry's voice is fried in places on both nights, think 4-7-85 type fried (but not quite). 1/2 step and high notes in China Doll on 4-28 are especially ragged. His voice seems to benefit from the rest during the Set II drums break 4-28 though, he sings sweetly Wharf Rat. Set I from 4-27 is a definite keeper with Tom Thumb's standing out particularly (first one?). The grate trio of Tom Thumb>CR&S>Music Never Stopped is tight. Other standouts from a good set I are the high energy fun Dancin' opener, and the BE Women which Jerry sings with welcome gusto. The Audience is a factor both nights.

The second set from 4-28 is definitely more my style with Playing in the Band woven through the proceedings. They give something interesting a try the night before by trying something novel out of Scarlet, but the transition to eyes is too abrupt. Jerry could have led a slower tempo, but unfortunately chooses not to. I like Scarlet, Eyes and GDTRFB, but this night none rise above pedestrian level. Not much stands out from the rest of set II on 4-27, but I liked the wheel out of space and the Truckin’>Other One combo was good choice. I’m surprised the lyrics maybe completely correct on Day Job of all songs.

So in the end, definitely an enjoyable listen and one of those 2 show runs where I like the 1st set from one night and 2nd from the other. 4-28 E2: She Belongs to Me
Stay Grateful All! :-)
October 9, 2022 - 1:37am

#1670

Forensicdoceleven

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The home should be the treasure chest of living…….

Good day, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Winterland October 9 1972

To be happy at home is the ultimate result of all ambition, the end to which every enterprise and labor tends, and of which every desire prompts the prosecution……

Back on their home court, the Dead in fine form! They sound comfortable and happy…….

Nothing stupendous stands out here, but sometimes the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. The usual suspects, new and old, rock and roll, good old Grateful Dead. Plus about three minutes of good friend Gracie getting down and weird…………..

Good copies circulate, perhaps like Springfield a candidate for official release some day? Until then, enjoy!

Home is the place we love best and grumble the most……

Rock on,

Doc
One never reaches home, but wherever friendly paths intersect the whole world looks like home for a time…….

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

68 and Loud

I completely agree.

On occasion and if I'm not careful volume gets the best of me. One day I might live to regret this. Thankfully, that day was not today.

A new one for me. Some sound weirdness especially in and around banter, but what the hey.

I don't know what it is, but I have soft spot for The Eleven, Born Cross-Eyed and especially New Potatoe Caboose. Good show with some vintage grease to end the night with me feeling a little dirtier than I did when I woke up.

If there's no pick for tomorrow, I suggest the next in line. It's a partial, starts with a rare Clementine. 1/20/68 Euraka Municipal Auditorium. I think we should set up a go fund me to find all the missing reels, there's a couple missing from this show. It would be something for them to be found.

4/30/88 at the Frost

Hey Jim, I know you have had a lot on you plate this year. Thanks for checking this one out. Yes, the recording is decent, not great. Like a lot of 88 recordings out there. Still think they have some good ones in the Vault.

I liked the show, anytime I see a Hey Pocky Way, I am in. Nice Shakedown to open the second set. Love the triple Encore with China Rider OMSN.

It is good to get out of the comfort zone once in a while Doc.

Carousel Ballroom 68, okay Jim, Ok will have to que it up this morning.

Enjoy the weekend out there.

Edit. Oh and after the carousel ballroom I will be moving on the 12/9/79, Dave's Picks #47. Love this one and I need some 79. If I had the keys, I would be putting out a big 79 Box.

Lewiston, for your consideration

44 years ago today, there when Roy Buchanan along with Levon and His All Stars opened for the Dead. My last in person show, on the bus since their first album, however things had changed so much.... Doc was there, a wild late summer scene, part of my farewell to Maine.

All is worthwhile if the soul is not small.....

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-timefavorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solide offical release. It is worthy......

Doc
Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile, I caught hell for.....

All is worthwhile if the soul is not small.....

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-time favorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solid official release. It is worthy......

Doc
Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile, I caught hell for.....

9/6/80

Hey DMCVT,

Love this show and will get it going again this weekend.

And yes, it would make a great releasen.

Pretty sweet you and Doc were there.

9/6/80 Lewiston

I'm in - hopefully sometime this weekend I can transport my mind and spirit into late summer beautiful day/evening Maine. Sounds like a dream show and setting. Very cool that a couple of you guys got to be there. Didn't realize this was the last show before the Warfield run. Long and heartfelt write up on grateful seconds (he was there). Comment at the end from a guy who was 8 at the time and lived a "bike trail" away from the fairgrounds. Listened to part of the show from his clubhouse. Rode his bike over and snuck in. Totally dug the Drums. Made major bank (for a kid) collecting cans and bottles for deposit afterwards (which is exactly what 8 yr old me would have done.) Think I might travel John Deere with the Jim Wise FOB.

Been Gone

But back this week. I can do Lewiston again.

As I recall there is not a good soundboard that circulates, right? And the one that does is first set only and it sure does sound like an audience (or ultramatrix on steroids at least).

High energy though.. like Gainesville, there must have been something in the water.

You have to wonder if this was recorded and if so where the hell are the master tapes? I think someone (Parrish??) tossed out the language that some of the master reels were left on the seat and when the truck pulled away they must have flown out the window or something.

I'd love to see more reels (and cassettes) returned.

Anyway, Lewiston Me for me tomorrow.

Edit: Started tonight - why not? Gave up on the "soundboard" and settled on the Jim Wise same as Bluecrow. Good news, Bluecrow.. The John Deere Broke down and was sitting in the yard for the last half of the week. I got it working today. Had to replace the solenoid. Damned electronics are always interfering with time travel. Just imagine if this broke back in time before Jebediah Solenoid created the first working model for riding mowers.. we would have been screwed.. I mean, nothing wrong with being stuck in 1980 but why not go back another 10 to 15 years...

High energy is right. Pretty good audience.

Follow-Up

While I was in the neighborhood, I took a quickie with 11/28/80 Lakeland Civic Center - Lakeland, FL (30 Trips).

I figured why not.. most enjoyable, especially To Lay Me Down. Not sure why I like that song so much, but I do.

More 1980

Ah, yes, more 1980. You don't have to twist my arm. A shorter show for the time period, but still really good. Will get it going after I finish up Dicks #36, which was mentioned on some other threads. Such a great show, but apparently didn't sell well at the time. No idea why.

My Favorite Non-Multi-Track 1980 Release

Random Musing - 1980

My favorite non-multi-track 1980 release has got to be Dave's # 8, 11/30/80 Fox Theater. Love how that Matrix worked out. If anyone remembers the seaside chat, he was spot on.

Crowd noise was not as big an issue in 1980 as they could play in some pretty intimate venues. Also, as the age of the cassette master replaced the lovely Ms. Cantor Jackson, a lot of those early soundboards are a bit sterile sounding without the crystalline highs and the booming lows. Blending those early 80's soundboards with one of those near perfect audience masters works. When they aged out of the smaller, cooler venues (thinking after Jerry's coma and In The Dark) audience tapes had to compete with hundreds of the guy next to you screaming "JERRY!!" at 95 decibels, this was no longer possible.

That SBD/Dr. Bob matrix is almost exactly perfect (or as good we are going to get for the time).

On the opposite side of the same coin, I think some of the Ultra Matrix's have a bit too much of the guy yelling JERRY! then I sometimes want to hear. Thinking a lot of 87 suffers from this, and by then the audience tapes were no better.

Anyway, if Mr. Norman can pull of similar wizardry I wish they would do more like DaP#8.

Being that it’s the anniversary

9-16-90 playing now.

Wonder what the Black Friday RSD release will be.

Music comes from a place we don't know...........

Mornin', rockers!!!

Pick of the day? September 24, 1972. Because..............Dark Star!

Minor rain storm headed my way................

The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils......

Rock on!

Doc
Music comes from an icicle as it melts, to live again as spring water......

9/24/72

Oh yes, this is a great show, I am in.
Thanks Doc.

Why Not

It's an early audience, but contains one of the few Seven's that were recorded.

09/29/69 Cafe au Go-Go - New York City, NY

It's no betty board, but an interesting inflection point in GD history, so maybe worthy of our time. Primal GD on the heels of WMD Americana GD.

Despite the recording quality, it's pretty good for a 1969 audience. Worth the trip for the Seven alone. Plus, it's pretty short. Something different, something quick, and well, it's really something.

So why not mix it up with a shortie from the fall of 1969.

9/29/69

Will mix this in as I listen to the new box today. Thanks Jim.

Hope everyone had a good summer

Been a while, just wanted to say hello. Watching the Dark Star from 10/18/74, cool to see video of Ned on stage, as well as see Jerry interact with the head nod. Enjoyed the April 78 release. With the 50th anniversary of the Winterland shows a few weeks away, doesn't look like anything is happening. Be good everyone. Bob t

Bob T

Hey Bob T, how have you been man? Hope all is well.
Yes, love that bonus footage from the GDM soundtrack. Might be one of my favorite UJB.
I have been traveling for work this week so still haven't made a dent in the new box, but loving it so.far.
Good thing there is no rush at this point.

Picks

Hope everyone is enjoying the new box set. Really enjoying it so far over here.

If anyone is interested in a pick, it has been a while, how about 5/16/81, Barton Hall from the 30 Trips box?

5-16-81

Started playing it last night and finished it tonight.

Good call DV.
And I’m having a Bell’s Octoberfest too. They’re gone from the store but I have 5 more cans in the fridge.

Conekid

Nice Conekid, must be esp.

Enjoyed the show again, nice Shakedown Bertha, Sailor Saint. Show ends with that audience patch.

Enjoy the last few Octoberfests. Still have a couple six packs to get through. Would buy a few more but the self life of this beer is only 3 months and it goes bad fast.

Change alone is eternal, perpetual, immortal…..

Good morning fellow rockers!!!

October 19, 1971

The second great seismic shift of 1971. The Yang to the Yin of February 18. Similar, yet different. Old, yet new. A vision of the new era. Change can be for good if you combine audacity with safety………

An old friend missing, a new guy who seems to fit in right away. Six new songs. The return of the complete CE/TOO/CE suite. The unusual occurrence of back-to-back Garcia songs twice in the first set. The first of the Fall 1971 FM broadcasts. One of only two 1971 shows that featured both Black Peter and Brokedown Palace. There ain’t no grease, but there’s plenty of Bakersfield left, as well as big jams.

Not without its rough edges, yet somehow it hangs together oh so well. Absolutely historic and worthy of a serious listen……

Rock on!!
Doc
He who rejects change is the architect of decay, the only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery………

10/19/71

Oh, yes, Doc this is a good show at the University of Minnesota at the Northrup Auditorium. Good idea.

Some may never live, but the crazy never die.....

Morning, rockers!!

This is for AJS. He'll know what I'm talking about...........

October 20, 1984, Carrier Dome. The last show we saw on that tour, maybe not Augusta level but very enjoyable. We had a great time. Maybe it was the liquid 25, courtesy of Deadhead Fred, a little drop'll do ya!!

Or maybe it was the music. Worth a listen!!!

If I had known being insane was so much fun, I'd have gone crazy long ago.....

Rock on,

Doc
No one can drive us crazy unless we give them the keys......

Doc & Angry Jack

10-20-84 - Syracuse

I was there also, think I met doc in the bathroom during drums,,, he was wearing a tie-dye :-)

My records show we rated Jack Straw at end of set one, a plus 2. Also second set opener of Shakedown got a plus 2 rating from our crew. We have the Black Peter that night at a plus 1.

Thing I remember was the air pressure blowing you out of the exit doors,,, deadheads LOVED this,,, kept going back in just to be blown out!

My wife went to Syracuse (both her parents also!)

Carrier Dome

Love the energy of this show. I'm pretty sure I tossed this out for a pick of the day a few years ago. I was not there, but hey.. we make it to the shows we can and hope for magic and a lightning strike or two.

Still, an enjoyable show and how about that Jack Straw. Another one where I wish I was there.

10-20-84 playing now

Just finished set 1.
It’s a Miller, but the file on my music player doesn’t have an ID number.
Vocals are pretty weak in some places. The playing seems to be trying to make up for it.
Shakedown poking around now…..

Edit:
I would have had fun had I been there.
Drums/Space was good.
I’ll listen to it again.

Most jokes state a bitter truth…..

November 7, 1971
Harding Theater, San Francisco, California

Deadicated to bolo24, because I will not follow where the path may lead, but I will go where there is no path, and I will leave a trail……

Great and classic show and a long-time personal favorite. It has pretty much everything you could ask of the Dead in this era. Rockers, Cowboy songs, hot jams, the unusual coupling of Dark Star and The Other One, an unbelievably smoking NFA transition jam (maybe the best ever?), plus even the often-expected equipment difficulties, AND jokes from the audience! The circulating broadcast copies are excellent quality and highly recommended. The band sounds loose, and the crowd sounds juiced. OK yes there’s no Pigpen, but still highly highly recommended, a classic of the first rank!!

Rock on!!
Doc
It is requisite for the relaxation of the mind that we make use, from time to time, of playful deeds and jokes

I guess I missed it....

I didn't see the notice about the next Bear's Journal, John Hammond.

If you missed too, it's available on Amazon and Bear's site.

Pick

Okay, seems like we need a pick.

How about 10/19/72 from the glorious LTTR Box? Love this box.

Good to see this box finally sold out. We need to make sure these all sell out in order to keep the train rolling.

I can do 10/19

Might take me more than a day though, but I'm in.