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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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    Think Marye has it right
    What can you do? The amount of freedom that is allowed is important, perhaps more so than the few who are misbehaving. I think Marye strikes a good balance in a difficult situation. Saying that people should only PM one another because of this is an overreaction. Can't stand the heat? Stay out of the chatroom! (Thanks to all kind heads who have tried to lift the vibe there)
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    i believe you're right buddy,......i can only hope i'm not considered part of that group.......though i sure feel like it, sometimes....
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    As far as I remember...
    ... we NEVER used to have these issues (chat room misbehavior, not the software kind) in the chat room. What ever happened? I believe the chat room's demise was the discovery, by a certain group of unpleasant, RUDE people, of our peaceful little place on the inet. So what to do? Well, many of us have decided to stay away, we still PM each other from time to time, but I look at it much the same way as the scene at GD shows after the summer of 1987: There's not a damn thing that can be done to fix it. So I guess if ya don't like it, don't use it.
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    chat room misbehavior, not the software kind
    mod hat on So folks, as you may have noticed I am not inclined to micromanage life in the chat room. There are several reasons for this, but certainly tops on my list would be the fact that, in my experience, it doesn't work. From time to time I get complaints that this person or that is doing something in the chat room that's making someone else unhappy. Or, even better, two people complaining to me about each other. And let's just say that in many cases serious lines have been crossed, and in many cases the heat of the moment was involved, and throwing stones/glass houses/etc. However, let's just say that harassing and abusing one's fellow participants in the chat room, whether by threatening them, serving up hate speech against some group present or absent, showering people with profanity, or otherwise creating a hostile atmosphere, is behavior that puts one on thin ice. Spammers aside, I very, very rarely block people or delete their accounts. I think it's a very extreme step. Nonetheless, making life a misery for other people hereabouts on a sufficiently regular basis to get noticed definitely improves one's odds of being in this select group, to which I would infinitely prefer not to add at all. Thank you and mod hat off. ME
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    Chat Room Nerds Unite.....
    I thought it was all about fun, games, stories & music in the cr.....? Oh, yeh & "whole lotta love"
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    thanks CC critter and CosmicBadger , and you Lamagonzo , and Kristen 10 , you had interesting insights, When GD sang Cassidy , it brought a Krishna Dance, and magik blessings around. The right sounds on whatever could maybe still work wonders ! Maybe , or maybe not anymore ...Time will tell ...
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    man i thought we had got past this
    PPL go in forums and chat. its not one or the other. someones not listening on chat. i have foind alot of love on chat. and i see PPl here slamming PPL on chat for things they have done there selves. maybe could say its easy to judge PPl here without someone standing up to u like on chat. we have all worked there to get a posative vibe going now. not easy but it is what we work 4. can u say that about other chats? we r everywhere and to call us drunks ect... have u been to a greatful dead concert??? lmao! love u all no matter where u post lol PEACE (~);-)
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    to my mind
    it's kind of like ugly parking lot scenes vs. benign ones. CC Joe posted a great tale of Old School Deadheadism a couple years back that's quite resonant with all this. If you cannot lead the bad actors by example, or use white corpuscle effect on them, just walk away and leave them spewing their bad vibes. As noted above, they thrive on your energy.
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    good discussion, folks
    you can't control it. How you deal with it is up to you.
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    After reading some of these posts, I tend to agree with alot that is said, and alot that is implied, and some not so much. One that I'm sure of through being a "chat room nerd" that we are held accountable! Of course there is no "moderator" as there should not be...we as a community should moderate ourselves. Of course we are going to get the slammers, bashers, haters, and non-good lovin people in there, it's the human race. I do know that we as a whole, the good hearted-kind people in this space we call Cyber, have told the offenders flat out to cut it out. After frequenting this place for alot of years, I do know one thing, there is LOVE and KIND people in there....after so long, you can just pick them out. When I say accountability, we have to be able to govern ourselves, and we do...it's a non-contrallable environment, except for the fact that YOU as a person have the power to control your involvement. In fact this reminds me of John Perry Barlow's battles over the interenet he's had since it all began with the EFF.... When you get involved, get involved with your heart and kindness. Negativity, has no place in our community. I love the Grateful Dead....I am not perfect....BUT, I know that my heart is in the right place and that others hear on Dead.net share that heart! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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Submitted by c_c on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 14:36

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thanks badger, the old ears ain't what they used to, and I was pretty sure he said daughter. funny how those translators fuck things up. peace.
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Submitted by Ami on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 16:42

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and a good recommendation to NOT have any liquid of any kind in one's mouth before the dancing badgers start. I spewed all over...too funny and bizarro . Ami
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 17:53

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dancing badgers are in to football and mushrooms...wow Hey Ami it wasn't tequilia was it??? LOL Hey grdaed73 Flock you LOL!!! :) from the lucky duck flock..:)
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Submitted by Hal R on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 18:54

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We got disco ducks, daffy ducks, lucky ducks, sitting ducks and deadhead ducks here and then there is that lame duck in the White House. With that I will duck out of here. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by grdaed73 on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 19:10

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i was confuzed, u r truly THE lucky duck, however be warned there WAS a flock of riders in here awhile back, now about dancing badgers.. close cousin to the dancing bear - primary interests include football, FUNgi hunting and consumption, live music and dayglo freesbies. also sorry about your computer, ami. hopefully you were able to clean up after the badgers
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Submitted by GreenRipple on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 19:30

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There's has to be a Dead song that can be go along with those dancing badgers? I tried to a few, like Sitting On Top of the World and Shakedown, I open the floor ...
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Submitted by Hal R on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 21:57

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So cosmicbadger, since I did live in Wisconsin for years and it is "The Badger State" and I was a badger I thought I should share these for you from you tube. I figure we are related in some way and would share these with you so you could relate to your American badger brothers. Start with 1 Univ of Wisconsin Fight Song 2. On Wisconsin then move on to cheesehead Packer stuff 1. The Cheesehead Song 2. Cheese-Head Packer Fan 3. Cheese Head Baby!!! 4. I'm A Cheesehead Baby, The Pride of Wisconsin 5. Wisconsin Wedge of Allegiance 6. Eddie Blazonczyk and the Cheeseheads After viewing these I gained a deeper understanding of my cultural heritage, my inner self and what made me who I am today. Enjoy. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by TigerLilly on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 23:27

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Hadn´t read Ami's warning and had the same problem with spewing coffee-Brilliant Badgers! Now just imagine them rainbow colored and wearing tye-dies, and then we have Cosmicbadgers! If you guys agree on the most appropriate Dead song for dancing Cosmicbadgers, I will have one of the graphic design guys at work make us a visual. Have the luck of having a comic book illustrator (for an original sketch to be scanned and colored) and gifted graphic designers in house and available. A rousing match between the Cosmicbadgers and Discoducks perhaps?********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Submitted by Hal R on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 23:27

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It is "Wedge of Allegiance" f the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by Hal R on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 23:30

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There are currently 3 users and 55 guests online. Online users Hal R TigerLilly cosmicbadger If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by Hal R on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 23:52

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Just search Bucky Badger and you will get lots of videos, but after this even better search Buckystein --The Half/Badger-Half/man created by Dr. Frankenstein and you will have many visual goodies., I have to make up for both ccj and GRTUD tonight If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by Hal R on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 00:33

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Another YouTube goodie - he bad Honey Badger-The Most Fearless Animal on Earth If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by c_c on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 00:38

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badger, I dare you, NO, I double dare you to take a real video of yourself dancing and singing along to some dead tune with that cute little Beatle accent you got, and then post it up on youtube and then put the vid here. ( -: just an idear. peace
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 01:03

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for the Wisconsin links. It looks a bit scary up there..I am quite glad you moved away!!!
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 01:08

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Being modest (and having a lot to be modest about) I am the one partially obscured by the clump of grass
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Submitted by GRTUD on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 01:08

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Infamous Wisconsin resident, if I remember correctly. I've avoided the state for that reason alone. "Since you've all been such good boys and girls, I would like to take everybody in this entire audience out for milk and cookies. There are buses outside. Everybody follow me."
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Submitted by jesuschrist on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 01:46

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Jesus here … I have a message for all of you from beyond your realm. This is a Message from Jerry, Pigpen, Brent, Keith, and Bill. To all you who have taken this site and made it about personally attacking one another; who have made a point to forget about the music completely, who have disregarded what this web site is all about. You all have disappointed us greatly. Remember it’s about the music and what it means to each and every one of you. Stop the personal attacks against one another. There is a lot going on in this world right now. And not everyone is going to agree with each other on what should be done. The end of days is near. We need to come together and be united. No I’m not from the Chinese government. I have nothing to do with any government. Nothing we say on these forums about the world is going to change anything. Pray to who or what you believe in. At this point unless you are going to the different places or raising money to help fund these causes; all you can do is pray. So QUIT your bickering it’s time to get along and enjoy the music while we still have the freedom to listen to it. And Remember why we are here on this site in the first place!!!!
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 01:56

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I'm not sure Billy K would appreciate being prematurely deceased. I am sure your advice is well intended JC, but the last thing this happy caring funny community needs is a false prophet telling us what and what not to do.
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Submitted by TigerLilly on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 02:02

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that we are not personally attacking each other lately-we are just having fun with dancing badgers, etc. We are just having our troubles with YOU j.c.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Submitted by jesuschrist on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 02:07

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AS you have all said .... Speak your own mind .... and not someone elses ...... Actually my real name is jesus christ-valdercruz .... blame my mother .... and blame yourselves for your ignorance .... be happpy and enjoy the music .....
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Submitted by GRTUD on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 02:14

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technically the correct term. Oh for the love of... never mind, you all know what I was going to say.Selah. Knock this shit off, CCj! ;- )
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Submitted by c_c on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 02:34

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someone just accused me of being this dude whose board name is Jesus in a private message. that really hurts. it ain't me.
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 02:37

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Oh boy my Winterland 73 box set just arrived! Hyperventilating with excitement!
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Submitted by TigerLilly on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 02:49

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to send flamenco dress photos to your e mail adress, Bob, but mail came back as not being able to deliver-send me adress again and you will receive the photos!********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Submitted by jesuschrist on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 03:27

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Not Billy K .............. Bill Graham
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 03:31

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fair enough JC. Did you get a chance to talk to Vince while you were over there?
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Submitted by TigerLilly on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 04:09

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Crazy Badger!********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Submitted by Mr. Pid on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 07:01

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I certainly do believe that people should speak their minds. I also believe that people have the right to ignore anyone they choose. And I certainly never presume to speak for others without their express and demonstrable consent. But that's just how I see it. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Submitted by Hal R on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 07:00

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GRTUD - yeah Wisconsin gave us Joseph McCarthy, but it also had a socialist mayor of Milwaukee even when I was a kid in the early 60's. Also a very strong peace movement. When I was a kid my parents took me to what was like a state historical site there which was like this old schoolhouse and a plaque there said it was where socialism was founded in the U.S. So lots of different energies going on there. The cheeseheads can get scary though. Also has Alpine Valley which was a good spot for Grateful Dead shows. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by GRTUD on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 07:07

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I'm sure Wisconsin is great. I was "doing" HST when I made the remark. I know how much you like HST (as do I) so it was a half asses tip of the hat for you, at McCarthy's expense. Sorry if I came off negative. My uncle is from Wisconsin - major Packers fan - very nice and sweet man. I'd go there but for whatever reason, I haven't yet. "Since you've all been such good boys and girls, I would like to take everybody in this entire audience out for milk and cookies. There are buses outside. Everybody follow me."
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 14:56

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It's just not the same...it's hard to keep up with all the posts...waaaaa chatroom come back to us :) I miss getting kicked out too..hehe
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 15:00

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You were the 1st post and said .....I'm going to say something most substantive. Give me a moment please. Guess what...still waiting for it.........hehe

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Submitted by buddy plant on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 15:11

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I don't think I've ever said something substantive. Heck, I even had to look that word up in the thesaurus... I was bluffing, and it looks like I've been called... LOL
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 15:12

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Thats ok Bud anythimg you say is cool to me:) Peace

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Submitted by buddy plant on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 15:15

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... I say please mr.site administrator, please fix the chat room. How's that Gigi? I'll even go so far as to say 'pretty please with sugar on top'...
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 15:24

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with a cherry :) oh whip cream too!!!! Please!!!

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Submitted by buddy plant on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 15:29

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... a little of that special 'fairy dust' too... wink, wink...
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 15:31

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forget the sprinkles********* wink ;)
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Submitted by Ami on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 19:03

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after looking back on a hectic day in this pseudo-chat room, I have to say I got a night time chuckle. CB is now either the well-endowed, tho modest Badger behind the hedge, unless it's a female badger which would mean she's a badger covering her beaver and with a nod to Hal, in Wisconsin yet! maybe the 'shroom is made of cheese. Gigi, if I had spewed Mescal, where on Earth would the worm end up? Speaking of on Earth, we have an appearance by JC himself and he's predeceasing others. reminds me of the great Monty Python- well, I just buried the cat! was it dead? No, but it didn't look so good, and I knew I'd be busy later in the week, so.... hey JC, tho I'm technically Jewish and we don't really believe in a heaven (or hell for that matter) say hi to my dad. I really miss him and he's a good 4th if you need a body for a pinnocle game. I agree with others, CCJ is too funny to be JC. And I don't know about you, but I don't sense any vibe of anyone really getting on anyone else- or am I just tripping? speaking of tripping, back to the dancing badger. I think CB should make mini-vids for all the various endangered species for heightened awareness. And how does this sound for Dancin' Badger music?: (sung to the tune of wave that Flag) here's the badge hard to image high on 'shrooms danced outta the room up and down all around near the bush what a cute tush danced outta bed whatta cheesehead world's spinnin round badger's searchin for the sound wave that badger wave him wide & high up and down boy in his hole my oh my oh my oh my..... Ami