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What's Inside:
•144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
•A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
• Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
•8 complete shows on 23 discs
      •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

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July 20, 2014 - 11:20pm

#1011

SimonT

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A complaint

Dear Rhino / DaveI write to complain about [Box Set/Dave's Picks/packing material/audio quality/Fox news/male pattern baldness]. I have been on the bus since [1967/1977/1987/1997/I'm a troll/what's the bus?]. This latest release is [too expensive/too cheap/has fake tickets/is a dud show/not what i demand/wasn't recorded by Michelle Obama]. IMHO, [Jerry/Phil/Bob] are [out of tune/in tune/too loud/too soft/wearing shorts]and I have a tape from a gig I can't remember that sounds much better. You guys are [oddly trying to make a profit/a business/releasing dozens of Dead shows/satisfying a never ended buying public/aliens from planet Lady Gaga] and should be [consulting me first/hand delivering this for free/letting me run Rhino]. Why don't you release [the soundcheck from 11/5/72/the really crap show from 1993 that I went to/Jerry in the shower] instead of whatever you've released. I only have [50/75/100/150] Grateful Dead CDs that you have prepared and released and I am [not happy/so grateful/a complainer about everything/bald/friggin' over the moon at the 4-5 shows I get each year from you]. Yours etc
July 20, 2014 - 10:09pm

#1012

FennarioXRDS

Joined:
May 4, 2014

Band Input On Releases

This is a few years old but interesting: Interviewer: In talking about the new Dave's Picks live release series, Grateful Dead archivist David Lemieux recently told Rolling Stone that he informs everyone in the band what the next live release will be. He sends them advance copies, but he's not sure any of the band members actually ever put them on. When a new live Grateful Dead release comes out, do you listen to it? Bill Kreutzmann: I do. And the one that comes to mind right away is the new Europe '72 [The Complete Recordings] release. I went back and listened and on a couple of the CDs in that set – there's one that has "The Other One" into some kind of jam back into "The Other One" – the music is just fantastic. It blows my mind to this moment. I like that music, the looser music like "Bird Song" or "The Other One," because they're really heavily jam-oriented. The Garcia songs are always my favorite, but the jam parts are really my favorite. Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bill-kreutzmann-jerry-garcia-was… Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook
July 20, 2014 - 9:29pm

#1013

PatagonianFox

Joined:
October 25, 2011

danc

i hate to break it to you, but you're the one with the negative tone. people hold different opinions. get used to it. for some reason i keep buying the stuff, but i personally don't need any more grateful dead. especially, if its from a period thats been done to death, so i feel for those who choose to spend their hard earned money on the annual subscription, hoping for something new, only to be disappointed time and time again. even if the grateful dead is the best band there ever was (a ridiculous concept), its still the same old shit. i'll never understand how anyone who is cash-strapped can shell out money for these albums when there is so much free stuff available, not to mention all the other great music thats just waiting to be discovered.
July 20, 2014 - 9:18pm

#1014

jrf68@hotmail.com

Joined:
August 6, 2013

Oh Boy!!

Just got home from 3 days of being ignored by every trout imaginable in NW Wyo.Sneaky bastards.....Happy with the '72 comin" our way. Thanks.....:) P.S.-While on the road today we picked up 2 folks from the recent Rainbow gathering in Utah and gave 'em a lift. Felt some old days coming back as we barreled down the highway.Fun memories.Then & now...... :)
July 20, 2014 - 8:51pm

#1015

Syracuse78

Joined:
July 15, 2010

Man, there are some angry Dead Heads out here...

1) The new Garcia release is awesome! I have listened to it in its entirety 3 times already. FWIW, I listened to the first '90 Box once. I think that is partly due to the fact that Garcia releases are pretty sporadic, whereas the Dead have probably released 500+ hours of music. 2) Claims of an instant sell out of the new '90 Box have proven false. Perhaps 1990 doesn't have the unbelievable, unquenchable fan base that some people are led to believe. It's not really my cup of tea, so I just won't buy it. But I don't begrudge TPTB from releasing it, and other fans from scooping it up and enjoying it. Like many things in this world, I will just not buy it without being angry about its existence. 3) There are a heck of a lot of GD releases, so if you don't particularly care for what is released, perhaps just don't buy it. There will be more coming soon and perhaps you will like them better. 4) There is so much live GD available on line, that if you really want to hear a particular year, just find it and listen to it! It's not that hard! C'mon, you can do it! Do you really need the Official Stamp of Approval of your first show being released officially? 5) There are certain characters on here who you just have to ignore. We all know who they are, as they pop up every now and then just to antagonize everyone else. Like an obnoxious 8 year old kid, the best way to shut them up is to ignore them. 6) Given how much nice quality music has been released by our Grateful Dead, you should either feel pretty darn lucky that you get the chance to buy all this stuff if you want it, or pass if it doesn't interest you. Having that choice is a good thing! Do you complain every time you pass an ugly shirt in a store? No (hopefully). You just choose not to buy it and you continue on with your life. That is all.
July 20, 2014 - 7:46pm

#1016

Coconut Phil

Joined:
June 4, 2007

CSN 2014 Tour>Spring 1990/2 >1972

@ Rednow Glad to hear CSN put on a great show. My bros and I are going to two shows next month in SC. I have been listening to the 1974 Tour set that just came out. Really great music, so glad they released it. I hope more will come out in the future. I'm looking forward to Dave's 11 arriving, can't beat a HDCD 1972 show. This years box set will be well received at my place. I'm like many others, glad to get it. I think 2015 is going to be a great year for releases. I do hope we see some shows on Bluray come out. Peace
July 20, 2014 - 7:00pm

#1017

Brewrow

Joined:
November 3, 2013

Hmmm...

Well said Oxford. And also a big thanks to dantian for posting the previous thoughts from DL and others. It's all for the love and admiration of a truly magical group of guys and gal. I really understand the love of a certain "era" of the band and the passion that comes with that, but geesh the hating on and name calling really doesn't seem necessary. It is all subjective to an individuals tastes. I can't stand black licorice, but others LOVE it. Don't berate them for loving it. Also don't think its necessary to berate others if they want something different. Just saying, everyone has their tastes and let's keep the back and forth banter civil. Love the passion that everyone has for a group of musicians that have truly changed my life for the better. But great art does that, right?
July 20, 2014 - 6:55pm

#1018

claney

Joined:
July 20, 2007

@dantian

dantian - nice work finding those interviews, thanks for sharing.
July 20, 2014 - 6:47pm

#1019

Oxford 88

Joined:
April 28, 2012

Thanks Dantian

For digging up the calm and concise thoughts from Dave.... from 2005! This info and the band's philosophy have been pretty darned consistent. They know they have a tremendous financial resource in the vault, yet they are allowing it to be handled by great professionals who are experts in their fields. This board is really starting to read like a transcript of bad sports radio with all the usual suspects getting wound up in all directions over and over again. Let's consider the alternatives to our current bounty of 4 subscription releases, 2 record store releases, 1 major box and at least 1 wide release per year, 52 weeks of live highlight in the Jams and Tapers Sections, 30 days of the Dead every November: CSNY takes 40 years to release tinkered with highlights of their most famous tour-no full shows and brutally overpriced. The Allmans churn out yet another Fillmore set, granted this is everything until they find the sound checks and Duane noodling in his dressing room. Somewhat related-the sound quality of their archive releases has been pretty spotty. Dylan puts out his bootleg series which has had some great live shows, but that is once or twice every five years. The Band's Academy of Music release was an excellent show, but the pricing, pompous packaging and self-congratulatory write-up made me want to hurl. The Who or Stones? Forget I even brought them up. Phish comes the closest in terms of quality, quantity and fair pricing for their shows, but really there is no other band or performer that simmers the stew of profitability, legacy and caring about their fans as well as the Dead. Yes indeed it is about the money. Amazing to think that after all these years, these people who played for us long and hard, have come upon a formula to steadily provide for their families. Right now, this scenario feels like a well curated audio museum; we like some exhibits, others, not so much. The band, Dave and Rhino don't owe us a thing. Vote with your wallets if you want. After five days of house painting, cranking great show after great show, I am pretty damned grateful for what we have. Not sure my neighbors feel the same way. Peace and Happiness!
July 20, 2014 - 6:18pm

#1020

danc

Joined:
September 11, 2007

so many assholes, so little mind....

....a negative bitch grind about a hot Fall '72 show to be released, that's all you need to know about the discussion tone that has resurfaced here. Totally fucked. I likes me some croaking, wheezing 80s Dead as much as the next 50-something. But IT IS second or third class shit, let's agree on that, ok? Keep the apex shit coming Dave, thanks!

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What's Inside:
•144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
•A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
• Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
•8 complete shows on 23 discs
      •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

allllrighty, then.

open yer wallets. gotta listen to NOD.

On order

Got my order in.awesome.

Where's the download-only

Where's the download-only option?

Is this the mult-track ?

I hope it sounds better than the first box. If I take the plunge send me copy #1990 or #9000 , I always wondered who gets those ?

Sweet

This is going to be nice. The music will play. I'm happy with this release, I'm sure it will sound awesome. I am surprised that another 1990 was released so soon. Deadheads were talking about the 80's so much that I believed it would be 80's. I'm sure some heads will be disappointed. i'm always glad just to get anything. 24 year old shows will entertaining for sure. I passed on the print, it's nice but just not for me. I bet it sales out in a few weeks at the most, 9000 copies is not really that many. Looking for hints on DP11. Peace

.....need advice

I like the Brandford show.....but I have a copy. As a 70's fan, will I listen to the rest enough to warrant buying this? Need some honest advice from the 80's and 90's guys (or the 70's guys) to help me make up my mind. I'm asking VERY sincerely and NOT trying to start up an ugly war of words! Just want HONEST feedback please. Peace.

Jesus

Yes, Multi-Track

Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John CutlerMixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser

I'm a 60s and 70s guy, but I loved the first box set

If you have the first box, I would say that's all you need. With the exception of 3/29/90, the better shows are on there. If you missed the first one, you might want to look into getting this one. The shows are well-played, but lack the power of the 6 from the first box.

Hey Now everyone......

.....nice to see you. Nice release BTW....Hopefully Spacebro will be pleased, but probably not...

Thrusday's Child Answer

$240 for 3-29-90 and the other shows that aren't as good as the first box? C'mon now...

Darn it!

Before I met a wonderful woman and got married and had a wonderful child I could have afforded this! I had to pass on the first Spring90 box and have to pass on this one too. The only show I knew I loved on the first box was 3/22, but this has two I love: 3/25 and (of course) 3/29! Sob...I desperately hope that in a year or so GDM will issue the Spring90 shows individually like they did with the E72 shows. I will jump on about half of them! Ooooh I want this!

I'm in the same place. Got &

I'm in the same place. Got & love the BM show & really like the 80's & 90's too. This is kinda steep for me at the moment but will see if I can dig up the cash. Always dug Myland & the Drums & Space from this era so most likely........Good luck & good rocking! Ken

shipping costs

a whopping € 41, sigh... I guess a completist's gotta do what a completist's gotta do, even if it means skipping eating out for a month. Anyway, apart from the 3/29 Marsalis set there is enough to savour. It may not be the years Spacebrother wants released, but at least the later years are not ignored. @Thursday's child: I'm basically a pre-hiatus fan, but especially if you missed out on 1990/the first one, you'll need this. Great playing, Brent & Jerry in top shape, some nice rearrangements (Death don't have no mercy, Loose Lucy) and, as far as I'm concerned, nice warm sound. It works whether you play it loudly or just as background music. Now for some October/November 72 or some 67 or some 70?

Comes to $30 per show....

....price is right. I'm probably on board. I too enjoy the Drumz/Space from this era....

Thursday

Just purchase the 3/29 show by itself. Save the remainder of your money or pick up a few road trip shows from the 70s. Easy decision.

branford show

looks like the branford show will be a sep. release (check rollingstone, amazon pre-orders, etc.)

Thank you

My sincere appreciation to TPTB for releasing the Branford show on it's own. The box looks fantastic but with a wife and two busy teenagers I just can't afford the big bucks on a 1990 release. I would LOVE to buy a couple of these shows a la carte, much the way the Europe '72 shows have been offered.Personally, I'd like to see more boxes in the $100 range but that's not meant to be a complaint, just input. There's a ton of great music in this box and cheers to those of you placing your orders; I'm getting a bit of a vicarious thrill knowing how much you will all enjoy it!

SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

....but at $30 a show its quite pricy. i guess we're getting a keith show for dave's picks 11. : (

It's not Spring 1976?

I think on this one the quality of the recordings made this the reason for the box. I would much rather see a lot of other spring tours (such as 76) but the recording quality and vault availability are probably challenges. If you love this era, then congratulations and enjoy! I got the first box (no regrets) but I'd be lying if I said it gets a lot of rotation on my IPOD.

Analog?

We were making DATs and Minidisc not T6 on this tour. Of course I will order and continue to wonder why Barton Hall is held Ransom when things go out at about $270,000 for the remaster and boxing per show. Anyways back to work on West High 6/21.

@rdevil

Could not agree with you more, well put... also two teenagers, one going into his sophomore year at college... $100.00 would be more manageable... but, nice box nonetheless "Thank You My sincere appreciation to TPTB for releasing the Branford show on it's own. The box looks fantastic but with a wife and two busy teenagers I just can't afford the big bucks on a 1990 release. I would LOVE to buy a couple of these shows a la carte, much the way the Europe '72 shows have been offered. Personally, I'd like to see more boxes in the $100 range but that's not meant to be a complaint, just input."

Any Digital?

Will these be released on digital or CD only? A lot of us don't use CDs.

Just ordered 3/29 solo release

"My sincere appreciation to TPTB for releasing the Branford show on it's own. The box looks fantastic but ... I just can't afford the big bucks... I would LOVE to buy a couple of these shows a la carte, much the way the Europe '72 shows have been offered.Personally, I'd like to see more boxes in the $100 range but that's not meant to be a complaint, just input." Thank you RDevil, that comment was just exactly perfect!

Roland - Re: Shipping

Shipping to the Netherlands is $41.99 (not €41.99). This works out to €30.88 at the current exchange rate. The $239.98 for the box itself is €176.51. Box + shipping together is €207.39.

If I never post again, you'll know my wife killed me!

Wow, $239.98, ok roughly $10 a disc, not bad, $14.95 for shipping? Really? $22.94 for sales tax? $277.87, man. How to come up with the fund to pay the credit card bill now, how much is blood going for these days? Can't wait, love this tour, these are all solid shows with lots of highlights. And Branford, ooh yeah!

Dave's Picks

I have the first two years of Dave's Picks sealed with the bonus discs for anyone who might want to exchange a copy of this for those. PM me if interested.

Got it

Just when I had convinced myself I didn't need anymore GD box sets I go and press buy!! Hefty postage tho' at $41.99!!! Ouch!!

Digital downloads

Click on the RollingStone link and read the article.

Re: Seth Hollander

I'd love to see them go back to more reasonably priced box sets. Not that I don't love these massive sets, but even a music only edition without all the boxes and trinkets (never look at 'em twice!) for us poorer folk would be nice.

This is great!

now for all the people who complain about the Dave's Picks all being from the 70's..."settle down easy" (~);}

Multi-Track

Mixed from the 24-track tapes to full Normanized Glory. Thank You. Thank You.

riggsjr

Don't forget that the customs will also take their cut before it gets to you. Ouch again!!

PatagonianFox.....

....Where the hell have you been? Thought you were Dead. (Head)....

€ / $

@Simonrob: I stand corrected. It did not deter me from ordering it anyway. But at € 26/show plus book (plus the box & ticket stubs that I do not really need), it works out OK I guess.

Shipping price has jumped?

Coworker of mine is ordering the box, shipping price jumped $10 for each delivery option. Weird!

Customs

Already thought of that probably another £34 ($58) OUCH again but what's a guy gonna do. Once you start collecting/listening to these things when do you stop.What if the best show/song I've aver heard is out there and I just haven't actually heard it yet!!!

This made my day

Confirm order Check. My wife's gonna kill me oh well got till September to cool her down.

WAHOO !!

:0)

Great News

Saved me a lot of money. I push "buy" on almost everything here but not 250$ for more 90's shows. Dodged a bullet.

@MLavallee

Blood isn't bringing much these days... you might want to consider selling an organ or two....!

Spring '90 #2

I love all Dead eras, with my favorite probably being the pre-hiatus time along with '77.But I could not pull the trigger on this fast enough! I loved the first '90 box and I am sure I will love this one also. To me, this is the last great tour and I cannot have too much of that. Order soon as it will disappear quickly I suspect. Rock on

Too much

Just what we need: another over-packaged behemoth. Seriously kids, just give us the music at a lower price and we'd still be happy. Does anybody really spend time fondling their "replica ticket stubs and backstage passes" while listening to 'Loser' from 3/24/90? (And I don't want to know if you do ...). I picked up the first one and truth be told, ditched the actual box once the discs found their new home on my shelf. As for the ephemera, it's out there . . . somewhere.

Ditto Rdevil and others

My first thought was, "oh, shit. My wife will kill me, but I have to get 3/29." Then I saw that it's available by itself. Thanks to TPTB for having the vision to put that out by itself.

woohoo!

this is great!

Another 90 Box?!?! How long did the the 1st 90 Box sell out in?

While Spring 1990 is great GD, I think that the GD legacy would be better served by a box set from an altogether different time period. Having said that, I'll still enjoy it. How long did it take the first Spring 90 box to sell out in? $$$ are tight at the moment.

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