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  • PeggyO
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    Well, the Spring Tour 2009 is in the bag and was definitely one for the books! That's for sure. I know a lot of people might think the Dead are dead without certain members, and to be honest, the last couple of tours the Dead have done were great experiences for me, but I always felt like people were "sitting in" to fill some big shoes left behind. Even Warren, in 2004, felt like he was filling in. So I went to the LA Forum show expecting what we got in 04. Oh how wrong I was! That first throat grabbing chord of the show was like the band was saying to everyone in the Forum, "Listen up people! We're not f*#cking around here, we're here to play so let's get down to it!" And then BOOM, right into that unreal VLB groove, with a beat that you just had to move to. I have been doing tours since the late 70's/early 80's and to my ears, this band has never been better. On the one hand, they're tighter, yet they're also looser. I cant explain it, and honestly, that's about the best one can say about the Dead when they're really "on", "well, I cant explain it man, you just have to experience it..." ;) I've been keeping up with the Tour, listening to the shows online as the Tour progressed and the first half was just okay for me. But in LA it felt like something happened that night and everything the boys had been striving for just all fell into place that night. The Forum felt like an old school East Coast indoor arena show, complete with rabid, hardcore heads that were so grateful to be back at the party again. This was not a "best of" tour. This was a "here's who we are now, dig it" tour, and man did I love what I heard on the West Coast leg of this Tour. That night in LA, I realized that Warren and Jeff no longer felt like they were filling in for anyone anymore. The *were* the Dead just as much as Bobby, Phil, Billy or Mickey are. To me, the Dead has always been a band in flux. There have been so many iterations of them I've sort of lost count. So to those who lament a Jerryless Dead, all I can say is, you don't know what you're missing. Sure I miss Jerry and I miss Brent. But the Dead as they are right now? Sound the best I've ever heard them and they're not stale, they're still out there pushing the envelope and really, isn't that what this is all about? So yeah, I no longer get weepy when I hear Brokedown Palace or Ripple or Box of Rain. I just revel in the fact that I get to experience this amazing thing we call The Dead, once again. And I am truly Grateful. One final comment...It felt so great to experience Shakedown once again and the lot scenes in LA and the Gorge were excellent. Like some upthread said, I found my self also saying things, and using expressions that I haven't used in a long time...It felt good to have the tribe back together again, didn't it?!
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    My sentiments exactly. It was a bittersweet night. Very cool to stay up until 3 am+ listening to the whole show, with great interviews and commentary thrown in during the set break. But it was so great to back out there catching 4 shows, eagerly anticipating seeing the setlists of the shows I didn't catch each morning, listening to the downloads etc. I'm going to miss all that. I'm firmly in the camp that thinks the music has changed/evolved in a great way....new sounds, tunes I never thought I'd get to hear live, Rhythm Devils taking it to new heights each night etc etc. Warren and Jeff are as good as it gets in the post Jerry/Brent/Keith/Pigpen era, which is to say they're both amazing musicians who fit right into the fabric of the band and helped to make the magic each night. Jeff is a monster on the keys and Warren managed to channel the ghosts of Jerry/Brent/Pigpen in his paying and singing while keeping it new and fresh and his own as well. Branford's interview during the set break was spot on: they're older, they've each gone on to do new things are are coming at playing together from a new angle, pushing the boundaries and not just treading the worn path. By the time they got to the Gorge, they seem to have all completely melded musically and got the bugs all worked out. We may not see them out on the road two thirds of the year anymore....at least as The Dead, but I gotta think the fun they seemed to be having along with the embrace of the fans will pull them back for another go around or two down the road. And yes, it was really cool to hear Mickey thank the crew and bring them out onstage for some well deserved applause. I've seen them with Jerry from the early 80's onward, seen Phil and his band, Ratdog, the Dead 2003/4 and I can say I had as good a time at these shows and I've had at any. All different, all excellent and all the music of the Grateful Dead which is what it's all about. Thanks guys!
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    Not sure if this is the appropriate forum to use but I'm sure Marye will let me know. I just went to the GDTS TOO website for the first time in years to see about Ratdog tix and was amazed at what i found. It prompted me to send them the following... Please don't take offense. Just a little constructive criticism. It's been many years since I've visited your site. Back in the day I thought it was the greatest thing ever. The days of calling the hotline every day sometimes multiple times were over, but come on guy's, your site is really quite primitive by today's standards. To my dismay, when I tried to fill out the credit card form I discovered it wasn't interactive. I consider myself a caveman for not having a printer/copier/scanner combo, but times are tough. I don't even know where to find a fax machine. Aren't we supposed to be a paperless society by now? This planet needs all the trees she can produce. The decorative envelopes are still very cool, and should be an option, but how about an online interactive version of the envelope? I'm sure there are thousands of heads out there into web design who would be willing to collaborate and put something together for you. I'm not a designer myself but I'm willing to help wherever I can. Just something to consider. Peace and much thanks for all you do. So this would be a shout out to all of you webmasters out there if they are receptive. I know youre out there, a simple Google search for anything Dead related shows me there's some mad skills out there. I have not recieved a response yet, but when I do I'll post it.
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    Maybe I should of gone for the CDs too!
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. she is doing much better. it was an asthma and panic attack type combo, scary stuff. my CD isnt a download, it was a CD i paid for, at the show, they was recording off the mixing boards, and pressing official show CD's on the spot for $25, with show date, and place, on official The Dead CDs. it is why i dont want the download to replace my CD, my puter dont have good speakers, and i only listen to my CDs in my car, or my headset CD player. i cant reburn 1 on my puter, and it isnt the official CD with the printed faces on them.
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    Chicago was incredible... 20 years since since my love's and mine last show but with one more in tow - our 11 year old son whose favorite song right now is Throwing Stones. All with a different yet better spirit. The magic was back. It does remind me of reading a book where you don't understand the words and you go back later and understand it even more after life experience. I started reading the book long ago and loved it - and It means even more now. The shows brought smiles, healing and joy. Peace Mike P.S. Please Tour again !!!! - You are beautiful together ! Such a long long time to be gone and a short time to be there
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    fillmore, and anyone else having issues
    you too
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    pm me the details. We're working on this one.
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    I feel the same way, could never have said it any better. Great post!
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. I thought all the shows were just awesome. Thanks guys for giving us the magic again. Sure would be nice to hear the Chicago shows and relive some nice memories again.
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The band says Happy New Year with an announcement of almost twenty shows in April and May.  More details to come!

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for 2 people to want to see 5 shows, at 119.00 a ticket (with the added fees) roughly adds up to 1,190.00. thats just the ticket price. the grateful dead has always said we, the dead heads, are the ones who made it happen. we are the reason they came and made musicfor us night after night...that with out us, it could not have been done. well, the way i see it, if the band does not step up and do something, anything, about the way ticket master rapes us on prices, it's going to be us who, sadly makes it not happen. i hope every single last scalper out there gets cancer. good luck everyone, have a great show where ever you may be goin
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I fully agree on that the tix are a bit taxed....BUT FOR YOU TO WISH CANCER ON SOMEONE JUST BE CAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIER LINE OF INCOME IS TRUELY A SAD SAD SAD STATEMENT..May be you never lost any one to this disgustingly terrifing sicness...But is not something anyone desrervs to have to go threw..It appers that you my friend have some issues in your life.. I hope you figer it out and stop these horrable fantasies
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Tickets are very expensive, so what! We can't blame it on the band or anyone else. NO BLAME ON ANYONE!! This is a chill of the chilliest topics room. Just reflect back on all the GREAT & EXCELLENT times the MUSIC gave to US all!!FRIENDS WE ALL ARE!! Phatmoye
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It was getting close to new years 1989, I was so excited my very first paid vacation was comming , so I got my airline ticket from Philly to L.A. with conecting flights to S.F. , GDTS has always been great to me , except this time .. My money order i sent in was .25 cents too much , well guise what , that was enough for GDTS to send it back to me .. .25 cents too much !! they could have just kept the quarter !! I`m not going to stress over 25 cents ..Anyway ,,I made it to S.F. , was shopping at one of the local piers in an art studio I met this guy who`s freinds broke down just west of Denver , this guy had all their ticketts ..being short on cash his freinds would not be making it to Oakland , $375.00 later I had my New Years ticket .. And a smokin show it was too !!
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♪♪Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? Remember how she swore,we would meet again-some sunny day?♪♪(sorry-goin' to see Pink Floyd Experience friday-been playin' Floyd all week.)Anybody seen them?Please give me your review,I've read good stuff about them.--GARCIALATER-G
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Just wondering-where did Jerry's guitars go? are they on display somewhere? I'd love to see those babies up close!
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I believe Grateful Dead Productions (Core Four) and Doug Irwin ended up with them.
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Arnt some of Jerrys guitars in the rock n roll hall of fame in Cleveland Ohio?Phatmoye
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Here's a quick peek! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Any word on a Summer tour? I'm busy in the spring and it's hard to get away but come July and August I'm ready! Come on...... how about a little middle of the country, Buck Eye,Soldier Field, Alpine Valley, Sandstone, Red Rocks (or what ever bullshit sellout corporate name they now are known by) old school thing......
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I've seen that phish isn't letting people onto the lots until 2 hours before the doors open--i am thinking they are trying to stop a shakedown from forming. Hopefully the dead don't do the same. Anyone heard anything? On a side note i also saw that phish is charging 49.50 for all tix--not that i'd pay to see them
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word is phil wants summer off to be with family. :(
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I agree-I would'nt pay to see Phish either-Ive never gotten the whole Phish thing-I think they try too hard to be weird and that Trey guy bugs me, Not that I think he's a bad musician-He just seems like a stuck-up geek.(JMO)just my opinion-bilee-I heard NO SUMMER TOUR because of RATDOG's summer shows and a GOV'T MULE tour(I know-bummer-but if there was a summer tour I may have to take out a 2nd mortgage just to see a few shows)(LOL)Back to SoPo-yeah I hope the lots open early-that's 1/2 the fun!!!!♪♪♪Nothin's shakin' on Shakedown Street-Just gutta poke around...♪♪♪♪
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dont know how they could do a summer tour, with this band as is,, looks like ole Warren is busy with the Allmans this summer 40yr. tour and all. plus Govt. Mule,, Bobby and his band will do there thing, maybe with the ABB, if this tour goes well for the Dead Look for a verry late summer( sept> oct. ) run , maybe south west.. Ratdog also has venues booked for fall tour( westbury, halloween) grab a ticket for this tour, I think they are ready for some serious fun again..
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I stopped going to Grateful Dead concerts in '84 - so the lot scene wasn't all that big of a deal yet. It wasn't until '01 when I went to a Phil Lesh show in Burlington, VT that I got a taste of that experience. It was November, so it was cold outside. Even so, a few hundred folks were milling around in the parking lot near Memorial Auditorium, some of them selling stuff, others buying and even more just hanging out. though In '04, I caught The Dead at SPAC and the lot scene was a very big deal. The thing I thought was kind of sad about it all was that so many of the folks there neither had tickets nor had any real inclination to go to the show. They were just there to party with the folks who were going to the show (or just with other hangers on). I was always used to big crowds outside shows back when I caught the Grateful Dead between '76-'84, even when they played small theaters. The deal was that folks were trying to score tickets, not a buzz and a burrito. I guess it's all cool, but I always figured that the music made the scene, but that the scene wasn't an end unto itself. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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The parking lot at the penn show was pretty laid back, we arrived about 3 hours before the show, and i think we paid about 10 bux to park in the lot. We just wondered around the lot for a while, got a few veggy burritos, talked to other heads, drank a few beers, smoked alittle, the usuall lot scene. Now, after the show, campus police really didn't make anyone leave till about 3 hours after the show. As far as the security goes it was pretty laid back. Shakedown St. was deffinately going on for a good 3 hours after the show. I hope the philly shows are the same way!Phatmoye As for phish, save ur money, and see the DEAD!!!!!
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To all of those with your positive and enlightening remarks about ticket sales, or should I say non-sales, THANK YOU!!! Class action is in order against Ticket Bastard, anyone know a poster boy/girl we can use as lead plaintiff? I AM STILL WAITING FOR YOU TICKETBASTARD, just for an ALERT THAT Ticket sales will begin for the Chicago show, SOMETIME!!!!! See y'all in the Windy, No thanks to TICKETBASTARD~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^>>>>>>>>
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That was a good post-but do ya'think we needed 3 of them!?!?!?!(LOL)Just messin' w/ya-bro!!Did you get my post about those DEAD books? DARK STAR is a really good read-lots of inside info on ole uncle Jer. Are you goin' to any Worcester shows-I'd like to meet ya and share a doobie(or two)GARCIALATER-G♪
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greetings, i say phish can stand on their own. they're entirely different form the dead. i have had the pleasure of seeing both many times an well as all the spinoffs and i see no similarity. i would say it is possible to enjoy them all as they're all doing their own thing. i really enjoy hearing the familiar songs played with a twist never knowing what to expect. wonderful world beautiful people earthman I'd save the world but I'm short on cash
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Robbie I totally remember that song. What were some of the others ... I remember a song it was like My Dead Dog Rover or something. Too Funny. :-) "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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Hey does anyone know anybody who's going to Ratdog in Jamaica? I think it's tomorrow. Man that would be so chill. Jamaica is so much fun, it would be great hanging with some dreads listening to Bobby on the beach of Jamaica smokin and drinkin Appleton rum. Damn that would be fun! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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do you remember the video... it pretty much acting out the song..you can't dance with them...or take them to the movies
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Didn't Billy Mummy write that phish head tune? earthman I'd save the world but I'm short on cash
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OH YEAH-Dr.Demento!! He used to be on WBCN in Boston when I was a kid-FUNNY-ASS SHIT!! -Little Known Fact:That AEROSMITH song "Big ten inch"was taken from that show. Apparently Tyler and the boys thought he was funny too! P.S. YEAH-JAMMIN' in JAMAICA would be KICK-ASS!!! Always wished I could have seen DEAD or JERRY in HAWAII,too.Things grow GREEN+SWEET in those tropical climates-Knowutimean,Vern?
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They're coming to take me away. Didn't he play that one also? If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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That video was friggin' hilarious!!! member they used real dead fish heads? Wonder if you can u-tube that video? HAL-yeah that was DD too-the man was a genius! ♪:-)smilesmilesmile:-)♪
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Just tried to utube fishheads-it's there but they wont let you see it because of some copyright bullshit! Damn lawers gotta ruin all the fun! There IS a couple homemade videos to the same song though...That is one funny-ass song!
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but i do enjoy some of their stuff. Thought i would check em out live. got a pre-sale ticket to the indy show. My very first phish show, we'll see how it goes. Hope the scene is similar to the deads, but i feel it aint so. Hopefully im wrong.
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It's all coming back to me ...My Name Is Larry I have a mother her name is mom ... Hello mudda hello fudda My bologna (sung to My Sharona) Hilarious!! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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""deadheadjac I fully agree on that the tix are a bit taxed....BUT FOR YOU TO WISH CANCER ON SOMEONE JUST BE CAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIER LINE OF INCOME IS TRUELY A SAD SAD SAD STATEMENT..May be you never lost any one to this disgustingly terrifing sicness...But is not something anyone desrervs to have to go threw..It appers that you my friend have some issues in your life.. I hope you figer it out and stop these horrable fantasies""" I lost 3 family members to cancer. basicly scalpers ARE cancer, as is ticket master. maybe my post pissed you off because you are a scalper? if your "line of income" is generated by ripping people off then yeah, i got a problem with it. whats really sad here is, you my friend seem to be defending scalpers.
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have been listening to the new years run , heavy the last week,, two djinn from the 30th is so strong.. might be Bobbys best tune since,, well since whatever,,Iwould love to see the dead take a poke at this one ..as for phish,, its an old debate,,but I cant see the connection with the dead, they are a "jam band " for sure whatever that is.. but the GD were unique as were/are the heads.. peace,, spring is commin...
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A foot & half of snow & ice in Ohio is what I woke up to today. Can't wait for spring! Guess ill just put on Days Between and wait it out.Phatmoye
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grew into our shoes,,, great late day dead,, snow/ ice rain,, here in eastern long island.. more like cold rain and snow.. get in the mood and let the good times roll
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I have to ask who in the hell is writing Phil PR shit....I mean come on...did anybody else see this nosense about nobody come to the show without a ticket and don't try to sell anything and what not. Hey...I'm not going to do either one but I'm an old school dead head and I say Damn the torpedoes and anybody is welcome to do what they want....do not cow tow to the fucking man .....come on Phil....don't let a pussy write for you! Rock on...everyone! PS..Phil if you really did write that then I'm sorry, I love you but shut the fuck up and just play good music.....leave the outside to us.....we can handle it.
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ROCK ON BTROCH!!I totally agree brother!! Phatmoye
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NO DOUBT,I always thought it was cheesy at DEAD SHOWS when you'd get those fliers supposedly from the band-"dont do nitrous""dont come without a ticket"BULLSHIT,man!! As long as you respect other people and their property,I say "come one-come all!!!"Do you honestly think JERRY wanted to tell people how to act and what to do??GET REAL!! There is ALWAYS gonna be some assholes showing up who dont know how to act+some wimpy little note is'nt going to change that(sorry PHIL but its true)So just worry about the music-PHIL.The parking lot is not your concearn(NO disrespect intended)♪♪"Never had such a good time-in my life before-bound to have it one time more!!"♪♪
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Tick-tock-Tick tock,With every second,minute,hour,day+week that passes we get closer to show time!!!! If you could hand Bobby a note with the whole 1st written on it what would it say?Here's ONE of mine:Scarlet>Fire-Bertha-Promised Land-Iko-Iko>Loose Lucy-Cassidy>Deal♪♪(I have many more but I think this one would be BIG FUN!!)-Dance the whole first set!!!:-)☆☆♪♪:-)
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Actually, the disrespect shown by some patrons,gate crashing, blatant public displays of illegal drug use, among other things threatened the ability of the band to continue touring and broke Jerry's heart.
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the best ratdog song is either ashes and glass or lucky enough anyone who is in jamaica right now enjoy yourselves
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If you want to suck down industrial nitrous from gun-toting people who ain't there for the show, that is your business. I think PKP has a good point, but telling people not to come who don't have a ticket is ridiculous. The best shows I ever went to were one's that were free. They had a point for everything they wrote though, the best of which, to me, was;Deadheads, leave no tracks! (That means pick up your own garbage, in case you were wondering) How about this for a quote, R & C: "Took his rings, four bucks and change. Ain't that heaven sent?" Oh, that's right, you respect PROPERTY and p e o p l e . . .
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My excitement about the Spring Tour and a potential four night run in NJ and Philly was quickly tempered by the ticket fiasco. First the absurd pricing left me chilled - taking my son on a four night run just became prohibitive considering I'd be coming from KY. No big deal I thought we'll make the Chicago show. Not to be given the server freeze up when tickets went on sale and when i finally made it through there were no tickets left unless i wanted to buy from Ticket Exchange at three to five time face value. The final blow came this past weekend when Ticketmaster sale started and within 2 minutes I was in, only to be told 2 tickets were not available - of course there were a multitude of tickets available from scalpers - something is really wrong here. Instead of a road trip with my son, I'll be looking for taper copies on-line. It feels like the Band left their fans hanging with this show and are more concerned about reaping financial rewards - more power to them and I am saddened for another generation will not experience the Dead - it marks the passing of another era!
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Thanks for listening to my little rant.....just want to clarify that when I say "do what you want" I of course assume we are talking about peaceful fun....i.e. not gate crashing. I was at Deer Creek in '95 and that was a bogus scene....but I think those were kids and idiots....I doubt that that will happpen on this tour. HAVE FUN...YEAAHHHH! Thank you.
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1 day closer to the philly run!!! Man, I haven't slept in 36 hours, no, im not on drugs, just overly excited about this tour!!! Phatmoye FRIENDS WE ALL ARE
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1st set dreamScarlet Fire Smokestack Brown Eyed Women Cassidy Birdsong Looks Like Rain ChinaCat Rider 2nd set dream St. Stephen Dark Star Cosmic Charlie Playin' He's Gone Drumz Space Wheel Other One Watchtower Dew Enc: Brokedown
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I. Viola Lee Blues>PLayin'>Viola Lee Blues>Cryptical>Other One>Cryptical>Viola Lee Blues>Playin>Viola Lee Blues>Caution>Born Cross-Eyed II. Dark Star>St. Stephen>The Eleven>St. Stephen>NFA>Throwin' Stones>Drumz>Space>Dark Star>Dire Wolf. Dancin. Enc.: Werewolves>Satisfaction, We Bid You Goodnight