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  • #1351
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    is still being hung up, so excuse me if I repeat myself. First, I am glad I posted my initial thoughts because it has provoked a good discussion. Second, I never intended to eliminate all Jerry songs. There are plenty of Jerry songs I want to see, because they are great. On the other hand, there are certain Garcia songs that Jerry's vocals are so vital and essential to the very essence of the song, that I would rather not hear anyone else sing them. Third, I would prefer no one sing these few tunes, not just Bob. (OK if Crosby were to take a stab at Wharf Rat, I admit I would love it.) Fourth, there is no doubt that Bobby has the "right" to sing the songs; I would just prefer that he not. Some people would rather see Bobby sing Wharf Rat instead of not seeing the tune at all. I understand that point of view, but I don't agree with it. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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    I LOVE when Bobby sings, and I was not suggesting that Warren sing all the tunes. I would like everybody to try and as usual someone will emerge. Bobby is an amazing singer with passion running through his veins and vocal cords. Crosby would ROCK on some Jerry tunes. I'm just suggesting that the boyz push it furthur by changing it up. Dude, I even like it when they would go to the crowd for the singing sometimes, not like the way cheesy bands do it, but the way EVERYONE in the house or venue was belting it out! Remember when Phil and Friends would do rounds, that's fun too. ____________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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    But I heard Bobby sing "Mission in the Rain" last fall, and I thought it sounded great. It wasn't Jerry, but it's never going to be Jerry, is it?
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    Lookin' for familiar faces in an empty window pane.
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    Drumhead - Could you imagine DC singing with the Dead! Holy cow I would have thought I died and was sitting in heaven!!! Gratefuljam - You know what I'm talking about! It was one of those magical and mytical nights at RR. This may sound goofy but I could feel Jerry standing on the stage that night in 07 and in 08 - smiling at Bobby who was singing his song. "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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    Here to back you up JackstrawfromCo! I was moved by the Morning Dew at RedRocks too, and all the other Jerry songs he sang soulfully that evening. I hadn't been to a show in probably ten years. I wasn't expecting Jerry tunes at all, more of a rocking Saturday Night Bobby show, so I was surprised, in a pleasant way!
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    right on the $$ again. the Bobby "standing on the moon" at RR? was AWESOME
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    Jackstraw that's a different spin. I've always liked Bobby singing Chincat on TOO. I guess it's that Jerry just had that ability to croon unlike anyone else. But someone has to step up and try. Bobby's always had that one two rock-n-roll punch thing going along with the ability to go off the deep end at any given moment. It's very much different from Jer's approach. I think some songs would work better than others but then again I haven't heard Bobby do some of Jerry's sweetest songs like Dew or Wharf Rat. For that matter I haven't heard Warren do very many of them either. It's not really relevant but David Crosby could pull off a few Jerry tunes
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    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Also, I do not want to eliminate all Jerry songs, only certain ones. In fact, I am looking forward to hearing a bunch of Jerry songs, because so many of them are great. My point was that there are a small number of Garcia songs that are so "Jerry" because of the vocals that they should be off limits, and that I will be disappointed to hear Bobby sing them. It's not like the band doesn't have a huge number of other songs to choose from. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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    There is no one who should sing Jerry songs other than Bobby. And you can't just eliminate all Jerry songs give me a break. I agree that Bobby needs help with the singing duties but to say that he shouldn't sing Jerry songs but have Warren do it instead??? The tour will turn into a Gov't mule rendition of Grateful Dead songs - no thanks! In my opinion only Bobby is qualified to sing Jerry songs. He sang Morning Dew last summer and it brought tears to my eyes something that hasn't happened since I was standing there listening to Jerry sing it. Two summers ago he sang Standing on the Moon and again it brought tears to my eyes. You are right there will never be another Jerry but the next best thing is Bob Weir not Warren Haynes. "Half of my life I spent doing time for some other f@$kers crime, the other half found me stumbling around drunk on burgundy wine"
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The band says Happy New Year with an announcement of almost twenty shows in April and May.  More details to come!

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Submitted by deadheadjac on Tue, 01/27/2009 - 20:31

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for 2 people to want to see 5 shows, at 119.00 a ticket (with the added fees) roughly adds up to 1,190.00. thats just the ticket price. the grateful dead has always said we, the dead heads, are the ones who made it happen. we are the reason they came and made musicfor us night after night...that with out us, it could not have been done. well, the way i see it, if the band does not step up and do something, anything, about the way ticket master rapes us on prices, it's going to be us who, sadly makes it not happen. i hope every single last scalper out there gets cancer. good luck everyone, have a great show where ever you may be goin
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Submitted by rambelinbearis… on Tue, 01/27/2009 - 20:57

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I fully agree on that the tix are a bit taxed....BUT FOR YOU TO WISH CANCER ON SOMEONE JUST BE CAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIER LINE OF INCOME IS TRUELY A SAD SAD SAD STATEMENT..May be you never lost any one to this disgustingly terrifing sicness...But is not something anyone desrervs to have to go threw..It appers that you my friend have some issues in your life.. I hope you figer it out and stop these horrable fantasies
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Submitted by Moye on Tue, 01/27/2009 - 23:19

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Tickets are very expensive, so what! We can't blame it on the band or anyone else. NO BLAME ON ANYONE!! This is a chill of the chilliest topics room. Just reflect back on all the GREAT & EXCELLENT times the MUSIC gave to US all!!FRIENDS WE ALL ARE!! Phatmoye
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Submitted by stuman on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 01:12

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It was getting close to new years 1989, I was so excited my very first paid vacation was comming , so I got my airline ticket from Philly to L.A. with conecting flights to S.F. , GDTS has always been great to me , except this time .. My money order i sent in was .25 cents too much , well guise what , that was enough for GDTS to send it back to me .. .25 cents too much !! they could have just kept the quarter !! I`m not going to stress over 25 cents ..Anyway ,,I made it to S.F. , was shopping at one of the local piers in an art studio I met this guy who`s freinds broke down just west of Denver , this guy had all their ticketts ..being short on cash his freinds would not be making it to Oakland , $375.00 later I had my New Years ticket .. And a smokin show it was too !!
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Submitted by GratefulTwinz on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 02:02

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♪♪Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? Remember how she swore,we would meet again-some sunny day?♪♪(sorry-goin' to see Pink Floyd Experience friday-been playin' Floyd all week.)Anybody seen them?Please give me your review,I've read good stuff about them.--GARCIALATER-G
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Submitted by GratefulTwinz on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 02:20

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Just wondering-where did Jerry's guitars go? are they on display somewhere? I'd love to see those babies up close!
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Submitted by Budleyak on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 02:45

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I believe Grateful Dead Productions (Core Four) and Doug Irwin ended up with them.
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Submitted by Moye on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 02:55

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Arnt some of Jerrys guitars in the rock n roll hall of fame in Cleveland Ohio?Phatmoye
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Submitted by Mr. Pid on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 05:05

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Here's a quick peek! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Submitted by bilee on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 10:38

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Any word on a Summer tour? I'm busy in the spring and it's hard to get away but come July and August I'm ready! Come on...... how about a little middle of the country, Buck Eye,Soldier Field, Alpine Valley, Sandstone, Red Rocks (or what ever bullshit sellout corporate name they now are known by) old school thing......
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Submitted by SoPo Jody on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 11:44

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I've seen that phish isn't letting people onto the lots until 2 hours before the doors open--i am thinking they are trying to stop a shakedown from forming. Hopefully the dead don't do the same. Anyone heard anything? On a side note i also saw that phish is charging 49.50 for all tix--not that i'd pay to see them
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Submitted by theotherone2 on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 12:42

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word is phil wants summer off to be with family. :(
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Submitted by GratefulTwinz on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 13:40

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I agree-I would'nt pay to see Phish either-Ive never gotten the whole Phish thing-I think they try too hard to be weird and that Trey guy bugs me, Not that I think he's a bad musician-He just seems like a stuck-up geek.(JMO)just my opinion-bilee-I heard NO SUMMER TOUR because of RATDOG's summer shows and a GOV'T MULE tour(I know-bummer-but if there was a summer tour I may have to take out a 2nd mortgage just to see a few shows)(LOL)Back to SoPo-yeah I hope the lots open early-that's 1/2 the fun!!!!♪♪♪Nothin's shakin' on Shakedown Street-Just gutta poke around...♪♪♪♪
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Submitted by skskck911 on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 13:51

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dont know how they could do a summer tour, with this band as is,, looks like ole Warren is busy with the Allmans this summer 40yr. tour and all. plus Govt. Mule,, Bobby and his band will do there thing, maybe with the ABB, if this tour goes well for the Dead Look for a verry late summer( sept> oct. ) run , maybe south west.. Ratdog also has venues booked for fall tour( westbury, halloween) grab a ticket for this tour, I think they are ready for some serious fun again..
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Submitted by streamline on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 14:13

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I stopped going to Grateful Dead concerts in '84 - so the lot scene wasn't all that big of a deal yet. It wasn't until '01 when I went to a Phil Lesh show in Burlington, VT that I got a taste of that experience. It was November, so it was cold outside. Even so, a few hundred folks were milling around in the parking lot near Memorial Auditorium, some of them selling stuff, others buying and even more just hanging out. though In '04, I caught The Dead at SPAC and the lot scene was a very big deal. The thing I thought was kind of sad about it all was that so many of the folks there neither had tickets nor had any real inclination to go to the show. They were just there to party with the folks who were going to the show (or just with other hangers on). I was always used to big crowds outside shows back when I caught the Grateful Dead between '76-'84, even when they played small theaters. The deal was that folks were trying to score tickets, not a buzz and a burrito. I guess it's all cool, but I always figured that the music made the scene, but that the scene wasn't an end unto itself. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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Submitted by Moye on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 14:49

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The parking lot at the penn show was pretty laid back, we arrived about 3 hours before the show, and i think we paid about 10 bux to park in the lot. We just wondered around the lot for a while, got a few veggy burritos, talked to other heads, drank a few beers, smoked alittle, the usuall lot scene. Now, after the show, campus police really didn't make anyone leave till about 3 hours after the show. As far as the security goes it was pretty laid back. Shakedown St. was deffinately going on for a good 3 hours after the show. I hope the philly shows are the same way!Phatmoye As for phish, save ur money, and see the DEAD!!!!!
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Submitted by chicagobob on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 15:45

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To all of those with your positive and enlightening remarks about ticket sales, or should I say non-sales, THANK YOU!!! Class action is in order against Ticket Bastard, anyone know a poster boy/girl we can use as lead plaintiff? I AM STILL WAITING FOR YOU TICKETBASTARD, just for an ALERT THAT Ticket sales will begin for the Chicago show, SOMETIME!!!!! See y'all in the Windy, No thanks to TICKETBASTARD~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^>>>>>>>>
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Submitted by GratefulTwinz on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 16:10

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That was a good post-but do ya'think we needed 3 of them!?!?!?!(LOL)Just messin' w/ya-bro!!Did you get my post about those DEAD books? DARK STAR is a really good read-lots of inside info on ole uncle Jer. Are you goin' to any Worcester shows-I'd like to meet ya and share a doobie(or two)GARCIALATER-G♪
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Submitted by earthman on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 16:30

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greetings, i say phish can stand on their own. they're entirely different form the dead. i have had the pleasure of seeing both many times an well as all the spinoffs and i see no similarity. i would say it is possible to enjoy them all as they're all doing their own thing. i really enjoy hearing the familiar songs played with a twist never knowing what to expect. wonderful world beautiful people earthman I'd save the world but I'm short on cash
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 17:14

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Robbie I totally remember that song. What were some of the others ... I remember a song it was like My Dead Dog Rover or something. Too Funny. :-) "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 17:25

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Hey does anyone know anybody who's going to Ratdog in Jamaica? I think it's tomorrow. Man that would be so chill. Jamaica is so much fun, it would be great hanging with some dreads listening to Bobby on the beach of Jamaica smokin and drinkin Appleton rum. Damn that would be fun! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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Submitted by noonie on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 17:43

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do you remember the video... it pretty much acting out the song..you can't dance with them...or take them to the movies
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Submitted by earthman on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 17:48

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Didn't Billy Mummy write that phish head tune? earthman I'd save the world but I'm short on cash
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Submitted by GratefulTwinz on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 17:58

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OH YEAH-Dr.Demento!! He used to be on WBCN in Boston when I was a kid-FUNNY-ASS SHIT!! -Little Known Fact:That AEROSMITH song "Big ten inch"was taken from that show. Apparently Tyler and the boys thought he was funny too! P.S. YEAH-JAMMIN' in JAMAICA would be KICK-ASS!!! Always wished I could have seen DEAD or JERRY in HAWAII,too.Things grow GREEN+SWEET in those tropical climates-Knowutimean,Vern?
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Submitted by Hal R on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 17:58

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They're coming to take me away. Didn't he play that one also? If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by GratefulTwinz on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 18:08

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That video was friggin' hilarious!!! member they used real dead fish heads? Wonder if you can u-tube that video? HAL-yeah that was DD too-the man was a genius! ♪:-)smilesmilesmile:-)♪
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Submitted by GratefulTwinz on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 18:17

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Just tried to utube fishheads-it's there but they wont let you see it because of some copyright bullshit! Damn lawers gotta ruin all the fun! There IS a couple homemade videos to the same song though...That is one funny-ass song!
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Submitted by fleaflicker on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 18:21

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but i do enjoy some of their stuff. Thought i would check em out live. got a pre-sale ticket to the indy show. My very first phish show, we'll see how it goes. Hope the scene is similar to the deads, but i feel it aint so. Hopefully im wrong.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 18:22

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It's all coming back to me ...My Name Is Larry I have a mother her name is mom ... Hello mudda hello fudda My bologna (sung to My Sharona) Hilarious!! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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Submitted by deadheadjac on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 19:48

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""deadheadjac I fully agree on that the tix are a bit taxed....BUT FOR YOU TO WISH CANCER ON SOMEONE JUST BE CAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIER LINE OF INCOME IS TRUELY A SAD SAD SAD STATEMENT..May be you never lost any one to this disgustingly terrifing sicness...But is not something anyone desrervs to have to go threw..It appers that you my friend have some issues in your life.. I hope you figer it out and stop these horrable fantasies""" I lost 3 family members to cancer. basicly scalpers ARE cancer, as is ticket master. maybe my post pissed you off because you are a scalper? if your "line of income" is generated by ripping people off then yeah, i got a problem with it. whats really sad here is, you my friend seem to be defending scalpers.
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Submitted by skskck911 on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 20:42

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have been listening to the new years run , heavy the last week,, two djinn from the 30th is so strong.. might be Bobbys best tune since,, well since whatever,,Iwould love to see the dead take a poke at this one ..as for phish,, its an old debate,,but I cant see the connection with the dead, they are a "jam band " for sure whatever that is.. but the GD were unique as were/are the heads.. peace,, spring is commin...
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Submitted by Moye on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 20:49

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A foot & half of snow & ice in Ohio is what I woke up to today. Can't wait for spring! Guess ill just put on Days Between and wait it out.Phatmoye
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Submitted by skskck911 on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 20:54

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grew into our shoes,,, great late day dead,, snow/ ice rain,, here in eastern long island.. more like cold rain and snow.. get in the mood and let the good times roll
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Submitted by btroch on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 21:29

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I have to ask who in the hell is writing Phil PR shit....I mean come on...did anybody else see this nosense about nobody come to the show without a ticket and don't try to sell anything and what not. Hey...I'm not going to do either one but I'm an old school dead head and I say Damn the torpedoes and anybody is welcome to do what they want....do not cow tow to the fucking man .....come on Phil....don't let a pussy write for you! Rock on...everyone! PS..Phil if you really did write that then I'm sorry, I love you but shut the fuck up and just play good music.....leave the outside to us.....we can handle it.
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Submitted by Moye on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 23:13

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ROCK ON BTROCH!!I totally agree brother!! Phatmoye
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Submitted by GratefulTwinz on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 23:40

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NO DOUBT,I always thought it was cheesy at DEAD SHOWS when you'd get those fliers supposedly from the band-"dont do nitrous""dont come without a ticket"BULLSHIT,man!! As long as you respect other people and their property,I say "come one-come all!!!"Do you honestly think JERRY wanted to tell people how to act and what to do??GET REAL!! There is ALWAYS gonna be some assholes showing up who dont know how to act+some wimpy little note is'nt going to change that(sorry PHIL but its true)So just worry about the music-PHIL.The parking lot is not your concearn(NO disrespect intended)♪♪"Never had such a good time-in my life before-bound to have it one time more!!"♪♪
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Submitted by GratefulTwinz on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 00:39

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Tick-tock-Tick tock,With every second,minute,hour,day+week that passes we get closer to show time!!!! If you could hand Bobby a note with the whole 1st written on it what would it say?Here's ONE of mine:Scarlet>Fire-Bertha-Promised Land-Iko-Iko>Loose Lucy-Cassidy>Deal♪♪(I have many more but I think this one would be BIG FUN!!)-Dance the whole first set!!!:-)☆☆♪♪:-)
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Submitted by pkpotter on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 04:10

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Actually, the disrespect shown by some patrons,gate crashing, blatant public displays of illegal drug use, among other things threatened the ability of the band to continue touring and broke Jerry's heart.
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Submitted by maybeyouknow on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 05:17

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the best ratdog song is either ashes and glass or lucky enough anyone who is in jamaica right now enjoy yourselves
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 06:07

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If you want to suck down industrial nitrous from gun-toting people who ain't there for the show, that is your business. I think PKP has a good point, but telling people not to come who don't have a ticket is ridiculous. The best shows I ever went to were one's that were free. They had a point for everything they wrote though, the best of which, to me, was;Deadheads, leave no tracks! (That means pick up your own garbage, in case you were wondering) How about this for a quote, R & C: "Took his rings, four bucks and change. Ain't that heaven sent?" Oh, that's right, you respect PROPERTY and p e o p l e . . .
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Submitted by Ralph13 on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 06:49

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My excitement about the Spring Tour and a potential four night run in NJ and Philly was quickly tempered by the ticket fiasco. First the absurd pricing left me chilled - taking my son on a four night run just became prohibitive considering I'd be coming from KY. No big deal I thought we'll make the Chicago show. Not to be given the server freeze up when tickets went on sale and when i finally made it through there were no tickets left unless i wanted to buy from Ticket Exchange at three to five time face value. The final blow came this past weekend when Ticketmaster sale started and within 2 minutes I was in, only to be told 2 tickets were not available - of course there were a multitude of tickets available from scalpers - something is really wrong here. Instead of a road trip with my son, I'll be looking for taper copies on-line. It feels like the Band left their fans hanging with this show and are more concerned about reaping financial rewards - more power to them and I am saddened for another generation will not experience the Dead - it marks the passing of another era!
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Submitted by btroch on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 06:53

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Thanks for listening to my little rant.....just want to clarify that when I say "do what you want" I of course assume we are talking about peaceful fun....i.e. not gate crashing. I was at Deer Creek in '95 and that was a bogus scene....but I think those were kids and idiots....I doubt that that will happpen on this tour. HAVE FUN...YEAAHHHH! Thank you.
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Submitted by Moye on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 07:48

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1 day closer to the philly run!!! Man, I haven't slept in 36 hours, no, im not on drugs, just overly excited about this tour!!! Phatmoye FRIENDS WE ALL ARE
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Submitted by Drumhead on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 08:56

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1st set dreamScarlet Fire Smokestack Brown Eyed Women Cassidy Birdsong Looks Like Rain ChinaCat Rider 2nd set dream St. Stephen Dark Star Cosmic Charlie Playin' He's Gone Drumz Space Wheel Other One Watchtower Dew Enc: Brokedown
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I. Viola Lee Blues>PLayin'>Viola Lee Blues>Cryptical>Other One>Cryptical>Viola Lee Blues>Playin>Viola Lee Blues>Caution>Born Cross-Eyed II. Dark Star>St. Stephen>The Eleven>St. Stephen>NFA>Throwin' Stones>Drumz>Space>Dark Star>Dire Wolf. Dancin. Enc.: Werewolves>Satisfaction, We Bid You Goodnight