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    marye
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    Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

    Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

    (We're changing some things for 2009)

    BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

    MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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  • Hal R
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    reseeding topic
    On further thought, I think a reseeding topic would be fine. If no one offered to reseed a vine there, a pmail could be sent with a request for a reseed to one of the folks who already got the vine. To those who have been discussing this, thanks for thinking about this stuff and furthering the cause of keeping the vines running smoothly. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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    why I suggest a new topic is because most people, or at least I dont go through vine topics that i have already received and passed on. As a result, I have no idea that a vine which I already received has stalled. How am I supposed to offer to re-seed if i am not aware a vine has stalled? I suppose a pm system might work, but I don't see the harm in a separate topic asking for re-seeds. We can also post in the specific vine topic as well. A central re-seed request topic is something we can all check periodically. If I see a vine that I have, I can offer to re-seed without me continually checking each and every vine topic. We can post our offer to re-seed in the actual vine topic, as well. My opinion is to give it a shot and see if it works. However, if the community is against it, it is no big deal. I just think it will make it easier to re-seed without having to visit every topic. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
  • JackstrawfromC…
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    I like your suggestion Pomo1
    But if we could modify #3 to what Hal is suggesting, we'll be set. Lets keep a re-seeded vine on the original thread to keep all the info in one place. Next - how do we deal with folks who cannot be reached, so they get skipped but then they show back up and want the vine that skipped them? If you have to skip someone, move their name to the bottom of the list, or to the next in line on the list? I suppose this could remain flexible but if you get skipped, you should be able to still get the vine eventually I just don't know if it is fair to have to wait until the end of the list. But that would be the easiest solution. Or the person just has to sign back up again... Then again maybe I'm making too big a deal about it?? Just thought I'd throw that out there since we are on the topic... Have a grate weekend everyone and happy vining! "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
  • Hal R
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    reseeding vines topic - I am not sure if this is best as its own topic or not. After all if you already have a vine, you might not be looking through the reseed topic. I have reseeded several and the way I did it was by getting a pmail with a request for a reseed. It seems to work that way and also by posting on that vine's specific topic, thread. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
  • pomo1
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    Consensus?
    1. FLAC is the preferred format, but ultimately it is up to the seeder. As in the past, people should feel free to request that someone create audio cds from a FLAC vine, and it is up to fellow viners to choose to do so. 2. Re-vining an occassional show is not prohibited, provided there is at least some justification for doing so, such as the show fits within the theme of the new vine or it is a quality upgrade. 3. There will be a separate topic for requests regarding re-seeding a stalled vine. Before re-seeding, all reasonable efforts should be made to get the vine moving. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    I am not against flac. Flac all you want. In fact, I have gotten a few flac vines by accident. I thought they were CD vines. I burned them to a DVD for storage and "future" use. I just don't want to see all vines go flac--that's all.
  • Arkdeadhead
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    Well Said Birdsong!
    I prefer flac because it ultimately puts less strain on my burner, but if my only option is burning a few cds for a show that I want, then so be it. I like flac for the quality, and for the reason I just stated. A 20 cd vine in the end, ends up being 40 cds once i get done uploading them to iTunes and then burning them, but I still love my CDS and until I get a transmitter that broadcasts my iTunes library through my stereo receiver then CDs are what I am stuck with it. Any way to listen to the Dead is better than no way!!
  • UncleJon
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    Its great to be a part of this !
    Derek, I really enjoyed your diatribe - it was quite constructive - and from the last couple of days I'm glad to see we still have a pulse out here...Y'all rock! I am a big fan of FLAC over WAV. FLAC are ridicuilously easy to manipulate with Traders's Little Helper and you can even play them back with foobar 2000 which you can get here: www.foobar2000.org Anyone who needs help using FLAC format I'm willing to work with you - PM me. As for vine duplication, it is getting harder to avoid, and in cases where only a WAV version previously circulated, FLAC would be an upgrade. Not to say that there aren't plenty of other ways to download these. And FLAC definitely takes up less space. Cosmic, what size hardhat do you wear? I am always game to reseed anything I've touched. Lonestar, thanks for doing some sleuthing - I'll reseed the 1st Anniversary Vine. I think a reasonable vine turnaround is 3-4 days with the ocassional week here and there. I'm certainly guilty of being slow now and then or failing to remember to post. But, I will never fail to answer a PM nor will I be offended if I am called on a slow turnaround - we all have the same goal - spread the music. Peace brothers and sisters! "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
  • Birdsong1969NJ
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    Flac you! Or Compression vs. MP3/Wav
    My thought process during these Vineyard "meetings of the minds" with a lot of different opinions is; I try to put myself in that makeshift Sausalito office with unmatching squeaky chairs in a band meeting, and think - "What would Jerry say"? In my imagination of course it would go something like this: (He lights a Camel)" Listen Man, who gives a shit? If Joe-Blow (no pun intended) has a machine from the fucking "Enterprise" that will compress musical notes into macromolecules so be it. Let him flac away. If Joe-Snow (pun intended) has the original boom box from the Fat Albert show that just plays plain old CD's, well he should be able to listen to the same stuff as Blow. I don't care about the music once it leaves our stacks, but they do, so it should be made available to all." I share Jerry's opinion. Some of the community is not Flac compatible. They should not be told what they can and what they cannot get off this forum. On the other hand people that are compression friendly have the choice to sign up for a vine that is not compressed. Something Iknowurider said struck me. She said " I have a good many shows that leave a lot to be desired concerning sound quality, but over the years I guess I've felt/heard them so much that I don't even notice. UNTIL I get the primo stuff, whoo hoo!!!" I can relate. The primo stuff is UN-REAL. It is the quality I dreamed of when I had my quite large collection of scratchy fucked up cassettes. I listened to a choice few (Freedom Hall 74' I would rewind Eyes of the World over and over and over, Barton Hall 77', and Starlight Amphitheatre 85') until they were so stretched out Jerry sounded like a frog on helium or they had some form of liquid spilled and spent too many hours on a 120 degree dashboard that they would just seize up and I would be pulling spools of tape out of my Alpine! Point is, then IT DID NOT MATTER! I have never been one to like light cigarettes (quit two years ago!), light beer, or any kind of stepped on watered down shit! When I heard my first couple of compressed soundboards of shows that I had listened too a million times I WAS HOOKED! I am not a "techy" but I am figuring out how to make Flac work for me because I love the quality. That's my choice. Exploratory Data does not want to spend the time and neither does his machine. That's his choice. This community should make a pact to provide the music for anyone who has the capability to so in any modern (no LP's, 45's, 8-Tracks or cassettes please!) format. I think the reality is, it will always be up to the seeder to decide how she, or he is going to vine the show. If she or he decides to seed just a compressed version in my experience there will always be some cool person that will convert them and add the MP3's to the vine if there is a request. (These opinions of "what would Jerry say" are purely from my warped Lysergic infused brain and are not meant to make anyone think I am a totally psycho dude who thinks he's Jerry). "Say you'll come back when you can Whenever your airplane happens to land Maybe I'll be back here too It all depends on what's with you."
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    I perfer audio Wav or MP3 files. I don't have time for flac files, and it takes 1 hour to unflac/unpak 1 show on my computer. I don't have an ipod, itunes or iphone or any other "i" device. So, before the pro-Flac vigilantes take over, let me say, keep the audio CDs a coming--especially for 3 or less shows in a vine.
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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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to make it easier on Marye, so she doesn't have to search through all the postings here, we are not signing up for vines until they have their own forum topics
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maybe we should include a little reminder in the proposed vine about not signing up until vine has its own topic, at least until the new system is more settled. Just a little suggestion-- I don't want to piss off any of the seeders--I love you all!!! "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Grateful Dead 9/2/83 Boise Pavilion - Boise State University – Boise, ID SBD “Citizens of Boise submit or be conquered.” - Phil Disc 1 Set 1 1. Wang Dang Doodle [6:20] > 2. Jack Straw [5:23] ; 3. They Love Each Other [7:38] ; 4. Mama Tried [2:43] > 5. Big River [6:00] ; 6. Brown Eyed Women [5:28] ; 7. New Minglewood Blues [7:39] ; 8. Big Railroad Blues [7:12] ; 9. Looks Like Rain [10:26] > 10. Deal [9:27] Disc 2 Set 2 1. Help On The Way [3:00] > 2. Slipknot! [8:10] > 3. Franklin's Tower [14:06] 4. Estimated Prophet [13:02] > 5. Eyes Of The World [12:23] > Jam (1) [3:11] > Disc 3 1. Jam (2) -> 2. Drums > 3. Space [10:06] > 4. Throwing Stones [7:54] > 5. Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad[7:54] > 6. Black Peter [8:17] > 7. Sugar Magnolia [8:36] Encore 8. Baby Blue [7:02]
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12th May 74 sbd sachs14th may 74 sbd Murphy 17th may 74 sbd Gustin 19th May 74 Sbd 21st may 74 Sbd Weir Shn/flac files on 2 dvd's full details on another message signups 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Grateful Dead -- University of Nevada -- Reno, NV May 12, 1974 Source: MSR>C>DAT>CDRs>EAC>SHN Disk 1: 1. Promised Land 2. Sugaree 3. Mexicali 4. Tennessee Jed 5. Jack Straw 6. Brown Eyed Women 7. BIODTL 8. China -> 9. Rider Disk 2: 1. El Paso 2. US Blues 3. GSET 4. Must Have Been the Roses 5. Bobby McGee 6. Deal 7. Around And Around 8. Mississippi 1/2 Step Disk 3: 1. Truckin' -> 2. Nobody's Fault Jam -> 3. The Other One -> 4. Mind Left Body Jam -> 5. Row Jimmy 6. Big River 7. Ship Of Fools 8. Sugar Magnolia Notes: Previously Uncirculated :) I have purposely failed to include set designations. DeadBase IX listed Set 2 as starting with China Cat. My ears, however, don't hear BIODTL closing down set 1. The post-song tuning after BIODTL doesn't suggest to me the close of a set (why tune up if you're leaving the stage?). Similarly, the tuning after Around and Around doesn't suggest to me that this is the end of the second set (as listed in DB IX) either . . . \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Grateful Dead 5/14/74 Adams Field House Univ. of Montana Missoula, MT MSR>cassette>DAT>CD-R>TAE>shn Note: There is a splice in China Doll Disc 1 1st Set 1. Bertha 2. Me & My Uncle 3. Loser 4. Black Throated Wind 5. Scarlet Begonias> 6. IMHBTR 7. Jack Straw 8. Tennessee Jed 9. Mexicali Blues 10. Deal 11. Big River 12. Brown Eyed Women Disc 2 1. Playing In The Band 2nd Set 2. US Blues 3. El Paso 4. Row Jimmy Disc 3 1. WRS Prelude> 2. WRS Part 1> 3. Let It Grow> 4. Dark Star> 5. China //Doll 6. Promised Land 7. NFA> 8. GDTRFB Encore 9. OMSN \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Grateful Dead May 17, 1974 Vancouver, BC 6/26/00, updated source: A. Gustin and J. Ashley report this could be the SBD cass master>1 cass> DAT>1 cass gen> DAT version noted on Tiedrich's site (had been marked mSR>DAT>CDR>TAE>SHN) Enjoy! Andy Gustin gustin@leland.stanford.edu disc 1 1. Promised 2. Deal 3. Race is On 4. Ramble On Rose 5. Jack Straw 6. Dire Wolf 7. BIODTL 8. Loose Lucy 9. Big River 10. Roses 11. Mexicali Blues 12. Row Jimmy disc 2 1. Playin -set 2- 2. US Blues 3. Me & My Uncle 4. Ship of Fools 5. Money Money 6. China > Rider 7. Greatest 8. Sugaree disc 3 1. Truckin> 2. Nobody's Fault> 3. Eyes> 4. /China Doll> 5. Sugar Magnolia f: 9-11-73 6. Half Step 7. Playin \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ **Remastered** by thir13en Productions Grateful Dead 1974-05-19 Memorial Coliseum Portland, Oregon Bodhi asked me to do this one, he felt it was a good candidate for a remaster. Not really being much of a fan, I was hesitant to even go down this path. But one, it would be an understatement to say he's been very open and supportive of me sharing my stuff here, and B it would give me chance to give GD an honest chance, which I've never really done. Well...it sounds really nice! lol Even though I've got an incredibly wide scope of musical tastes, these guys (and this style) just doesn't seem to have a place in there. But it certainly doesn't mean I couldn't give it some proper remastering love either. You can decide that for yourselves. If it was just a gift to Bohdi, then that's just fine with me too. Source was decent, but certainly showed some of it's age. I did some tweaks to the spectrum (Waves REQ 4-band), light compression (Waves R-Comp), slight warmth enhancement to the low-end (BBE2 lo-contour) and digitally maximized with the Waves L3 Multimaximizer. Explore or ignore. Peace, M Disc 1 1. //Half-Step 2. Mexicali Blues 3. Big RR Blues 4. BTW 5. Scarlet Begonias 6. BIODTL 7. T Jed 8. Bobby McGee 9. Sugaree 10.Jack Straw 11.IMHBTR 12.El Paso 13.Loose Lucy Disc 2 1. Money MOney 2. China Cat Sunflower 3. I Know You Rider 4. Promised Land 5. Bertha 6. GSET 7. Ship of Fools 8. WRS Prelude 9. Part 1 10.Let It Grow 11.Wharf Rat Disc 3 1. Big River 2. Peggy O 3. Truckin' 4. Jam 5. Mind Left Body Jam 6. NFA 7. GDTRFB 8. OMSN 9. US Blues PRE-13 SOURCE INFO ----------------------------------- Master Soundboard Reel > PCM > DAT> CDR many copies in circulation are missing Tennessee Jed, Me & Bobby McGee, Sugaree, Jack Straw, IMHBTR, El Paso and Ship of Fools. This transcription is complete. EAC'ed / SHN'ed by Scott Clugston 12/24/01 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ GRATEFUL DEAD Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA 5/21/74 SBD (shnid=2597) patched with AUD (shnid=10150) DISC ONE 64:47 set one-a: 01 Me And My Uncle 3:15 02 Brown Eyed Women 5:54 03 Beat It On Down The Line 4:02 04 Deal 5:06 05 Mexicali Blues 4:31 06 It Must've Been The Roses 6:27 07 The Race Is On 3:13 08 Scarlet Begonias 6:36 09 El Paso 5:26 10 Row Jimmy 9:13 11 Money Money 5:01 12 Ship Of Fools 6:02 1/ total time: 56:14 DISC TWO 69:10 set one-end: 01 Weather Report Suite Prelude > 1:08 02 Weather Report Suite Part One > 5:03 03 Let It Grow > 10:50 04 China Doll 5:43 set two-a: 05 Playin' In The Band 46:27 total time: 69:16 DISC THREE 62:43 set two-end: 01 U.S. Blues 6:55 02 Big River 4:53 2/ 03 Stella Blue (aud) 8:23 3/ 04 Around And Around (aud) 5:10 3/ 05 Eyes Of The World > 13:49 4/ 06 Wharf Rat > 9:43 07 Sugar Magnolia 9:47 encore: 08 /Johnny B. Goode 4:02 total time: 61:23 SBD SOurce (shnid=2597) MSR>C>Dats>CD>EAC>SHN>.WAV>Samplitude2496: retracked, normalized (added +1.8 dB) > SHN, CD. Playin' has no Cassette gen, and is patched w/26 sec of AUD at reel flip. AUD Patch source (shnid=10150) AudMC > WAV > SHN Sony ECM18N mics > Sony 152SD deck, recorded by Pat Lee, hand held mics in right balcony Patches SHN > WAV > CE Pro (patching) > sector boundary correction (CE Pro & shntool v1.2.3) > SHN V3 encoding (shntool) by Charles Wier SBEs fixed manually and with shntool, as the crowd is cut between most songs on both the SBD and AUD master. Transitions are smooth, but not continual due to missing crowd. Minor cut at beginning of JBG also cut on AUD and could not be patched. 1/ patch beginning ~0:13.8 w/ aud; 0:12.6 of silence removed from end 2/ trim silence from end 3/ patch w/ aud; -2 dB to R ch & trim/fade crowd 4/ 10 dB boost to R ch fadein for 1st 5 secs (barely detectable) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Since I am relatively new around here and have extensively sampled the wares, I thought it was time to seed my first vine. I was lucky enough to receive this show as a gift from Oroboros, so THANK YOU Tim!!!! I know that we all discuss peak years and '73 is certainly one of those years, and 5/26 certainly was one of those magical shows. The band is tight and the sound is crisp. This is a Miller remaster--he is the king!! Grateful Dead - May 23, 1973 Kezar Stadium - San Francisco, CA Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> PCM -> Dat Transfer Info: Dat -> CD -> Samplitude Professional v9.02 -> FLAC (4 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net March 20, 2007 Patch Info: Sony Stereo Mic -> Cassette Master (Sony TC-124) supplies: Row Jimmy (3:31 - 4:51) China Cat Sunflower (3:15 - 3:45) The Other One (9:31 - 9:53) Notes: -- All disc changes are seamless -- Patch source recorded by Gene Taback and supplied by David Minches -- Patch source pitch corrected - it's better, but not perfect -- Numerous background noises removed in SBD, but some still remain Set 1 d1t01 - The Promised Land d1t02 - Deal d1t03 - Jack Straw d1t04 - Tennessee Jed d1t05 - The Race Is On d1t06 - Sugaree d1t07 - Mexicali Blues d1t08 - Row Jimmy d1t09 - Looks Like Rain d1t10 - They Love Each Other d2t01 - Playing In The Band Set 2: d2t02 - Tuning d2t03 - Here Comes Sunshine d2t04 - El Paso d2t05 - Loser d2t06 - Beat It On Down The Line d2t07 - You Ain't Woman Enough d2t08 - Box Of Rain d2t09 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t10 - I Know You Rider d2t11 - Big River d3t01 - Bertha d3t02 - Around And Around Set 3: d3t03 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo d3t04 - Me And My Uncle d4t01 - He's Gone -> d4t02 - Truckin' -> d4t03 - The Other One -> d4t04 - Eyes Of The World -> d4t05 - China Doll d4t06 - Sugar Magnolia Encore: d4t07 - Casey Jones First one to PM me your address and you will be the first to get your hands on this one!
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These instructions are at the top of each page in this topic New VINE Process (changes for 2009): 2. Post your vine info here (without signup list) - maybe include a note reminding people not to sign-up until it has its own topic. No early sign-ups - Any sign-ups before the vine has its own home will be ignored
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Note - this will be a small 3 cd audio vine - an official MOTB (Mouth Of The Beast) Release. Please wait until it has a home before signing up. Thanks MotB Release: #0008/16bit Release Date: February 5th 2007 Band: Grateful Dead Date: March 7, 1981 Venue: Cole Field House Location: College Park, Md. Source: Audience FOB Recording Media: Maxell UD-XLII 90 min. Lineage: Nakamichi CM700's > Sony TC-D5M > MAC Transfer: MAC > Nakamichi DR-1 > Grace Design Lunatec V3 > S/pdif > WaveLAB 5.0 > wav Taped by: B. Glassberg Transfer by: A. Egert Mastering by: C. Ladner DISC I - SET I 01 crowd/tuning 02 Alabama Getaway > 03 Greatest Story 04 Dire Wolf 05 Me And My Uncle > 06 Big River 07 Candyman 08 C.C. Rider 09 Jack-A-Roe 10 Passenger DISC II - Set I (cont'd) 01 Bird Song > 02 Looks Like Rain > 03 Deal Set II 04 crowd 05 Aiko Aiko > 06 Lost Sailor > 07 Saint of Circumstance > 08 Jam > 09 Rhythm Devils > DISC III - Set II (cont'd) 01 Jam > 02 Truckin'> 03 Black Peter > 04 Around & Around > 05 Johnny B. Goode Encore: 06 One More Saturday Night Mastering Notes: Tape flip in d2t02 - Deal (03:15-03:22) cross fade patched from Jim Wise FOB-Sennheiser recording, Mastering with Adobe Audition 2.0 (Waves Z-Noise (learn mode on 5 s blank tape patch, threshold 3/reduction 23) & Izotope Patch Source: Lineage: AUD (Senn 421 mics > SonyD5 > MC > CD > ? > EAC > SHN) Taper: J. Wise
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in no particular order .... 1. I spent some time in East Tennessee (Knoxeville) in "twenty aught three" (2003) or so, and found this incredible radio station (which happens to also be available on the web) http://www.wdvx.com/ check it out - they have several feeds, including itunes shoutcast & do alot of great great music - lots of bluegrass, but also "americana" - very eclectic. 2. I've inquired of Marye about the possibility of non-standard live show vines (Tom Waits, Kings of Leon, Seldom Scene, Dan Hicks) - just wondering if there would be any interest in these. I've been looking for some some Seldom Scene - i was fortunate to see them live several times - and i heard Mike Auldridge (dobro) died - and thought how great the music was - and should live on. Of course, it would depend on an OK from Marye. That's about it - I love you guys & really appreciate how you all have taken the initiative here - it's what is needed.
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It's Buffalo Springfield! Listening to that CSNY now and then vine really got me in the mood. Neil Young Stephen Stills Richie Furay Dewey Martin Jim Messina Bruce Palmer Disc one 01 Introduction 0:41 02 Go and Say Goodbye 2:40 03 Mr. Soul 6:27 04 Bluebird 9:18 05 Pay the Price 5:32 06 Nobody's Fool 4:11 07 My Kind of Love 4:21 08 Good Time Boy 3:32 09 For What It's Worth 3:30 10 Rock 'n' Roll Woman 4:13 11 A Child's Claim To Fame 2:36 12 Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing 4:50 13 Uno Mundo 2:32 14 For What It's Worth 3:30 15 Bluebird 12:13 16 Epilogue: On the Way Home 2:14 Tracks 1, 8, 9: Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, Calif. 5/5/68 Tracks 2 - 7: Teen and Twenty Club, Huntingdon Beach, Calif. 8/11,12/67 Tracks 10 - 15: Market Hall, Dallas 4/20/68 Track 16: Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco 12/67 Disc Two 01 Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing (demo) 3:00 02 Do I Have to Come Right Out and Say It (alt) 3:08 03 "Raga 1" (unreleased) 1:29 04 Mr. Soul (alternate take) 2:40 05 My Kind of Love (alt) 2:33 06 For What It's Worth (Smothers Brothers) 2:58 07 Down to the Wire (alt) 2:31 08 Bluebird (extended mix) 9:11 09 Sell Out (demo) 2:36 10 For What It's worth (Monterey Pop 1967) 2:57 11 Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing (Monterey Pop 1967) 3:33 12 Rock 'n' Roll Woman (Monterey Pop 1967) 4:06 13 Bluebird (Monterey Pop 1967) 4:24 14 A Child's Claim to Fame (Monterey Pop 1967) 2:00 15 Merry Go Round (alt mix) 2:07 16 Uno Mundo (alt mix) 2:06 17 49 Reasons (demo) 2:32 18 Roads of Plenty (barn rehearsals 1988) 4:22 19 Stills Boogie (barn rehearsals 1988) 3:29 20 Bluebird (extended mix, alt) 9:30 Honestly these are not the best recordings, but there isn't a lot of live stuff around. Most of the songs have some flaw in them somewhere. They generally start out good and fade out towards the end. It sounds like someone is plugging and unplugging something into the recording equipment. They will still make exellent additions to the vines.
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You never cease to amaze me! Forget the quality issues, this is classic stuff. I feel like breaking the rules and signing up before Mary starts the topic.Thanks! "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Sorry guys, I'm having a few, uh, back issues and moving much too slow. Like my 86-year-old father in fact. But I'll get there shortly. And yeah, re the Buffalo Springfield vine, yow!
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Hi! ...Cole Field House 3/7/81, second post after Kezar Stadium. Hope you're feeling better. Cheers! MarkintheDark ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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You have the forum created, just not the link from here. I was slow on the "refresh". ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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Get better soon Marye, I feel for you, having been dealing with it and a numb knee and leg since mid december. Take care, many people here rely upon your supreme guidance. pk
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well this is my second try at seeding a nice vine , let`s see what happens .. I have cheked the vinedex and official releases ,ect .. and I did`nt see this anyplace ... this is on two cdr`s so converting not needed ...the sound quality is pretty good considering when it was taped ... Please no sign up`s yet ,, Pending Dead.nets Goddess Marye .. Primal GD GEMS - Assorted 1966 Grateful Dead SMRs>DAT>3x>Delta DiO 2496>Soundforge 7.0>WAV>CD Wave Editor>FLAC CD #1 Possibly 2/12/66 - 7"reel 1/2 track at 7.5 IPS: Viola Lee Blues Don't Ease Me In Tastebud "Longshoreman's Hall 1st Night" - 7" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS: Beat It On Down The Line Schoolgirl>You Don't Love Me>Schoolgirl (original reel cuts) Unlabeled Reel: Pigpen Raps Billy, Bobby, and Pigpen> New Orleans (sort of an attempt) Twist and Shout CD #2 "Longshoreman's Hall 3rd Night" - 10" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS: It's A Sin Viola Lee Blues Midnight Hour Beat It On Down The Line Blues Jam (with Jorma and Jack) Note: reel runs out before the end Pauley Ballroom #2 (no date) - 10" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS: You Don't Have To Ask - Phil Talks About The Move To L.A. Viola Lee Blues (some static at start of song) I Know You Rider Midnight Hour (plug pulled) There are also a couple of short digi noises during the blues jam. The dates and locations are as marked on the boxes of master reels. Let's leave it to the Deadhead historians to figure it all out for accuracy. A GEMS production -+-+- www.shnflac.net -+-+- December 2006 ps.. I will begin working on some CSNY from the Lopez`s LBOE vine ..next week ..
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Hey now! The following is a summary of vines that have withered away, disappeared, whatever. Not a complete list by any measure. Note that I'm not pointing fingers or calling people names, just trying to identify, locate and get some of them moving again. There are a few viners that are missing along with the vines and who knows what their issues are? You may want to be careful if one of the missing viners (or somebody you aren't sure is currently active) is after you, however, and PM them before mailing a vine to them. Wait a few days for a reply and if you don't receive one then skip to the next person. Several other vines that were lost have been found and are moving again, and many other vines have been reseeded. Thanks to all the reseeders! If you see any errors or have any info please let me know. If there are vines you think should be added (especially ones that are already past me, I don't check on those much), PM me and I'll look into it. And if you want to step up for a reseed, well Jerry bless you! Cheers, MarkintheDark, self-appointed Vine Dick. ****************** Vines that have been recently (or are being) reseeded: 1) 1971 Tour Vine: not a reseed, but this vine has reappeared after a long delay. 2 DVDs, no CDs 2) GD/NRPS '70 Vine: being reseeded by richard, should be moving along in the near future 3) Valentine's Day 1988 Vine: reseeded by stuman and is moving along 4) Bits 'n' Pieces Vine: reseeded by pkpotter and Oroboros and is moving along 5) Progressive Rock Vine: reseeded by MarkintheDark and is moving along 6) Winterland October '74 Vine: in the process of being reseeded by richard 7) Merriweather Post Pavilion 7/1/85 Vine: reseeded by erickat and is moving along 8) Hollywood Palladium '71 Vine: reseeded by Birdsong1969NJ and is moving along 9) Autzen Stadium/Eugene OR Vine: reseeded by pkpotter and is moving along 10) The PERRO Tapes Vine is suspected as being lost in the mail, but the last viner that had it has offered to reseed if the vine doesn't turn up soon. 11) Augusta '84 Vine: reseeded by MarkintheDark. ****************** Missing vines summary (as of 02/03/09) 1) The Jerry Solo Acoustic '82 Vine: appears to be MIA again, last seen joneb sending it to Irie333 on 1/7. PM'd Irie333 a few times, no reply; she is now being contacted through other channels. This vine is apparently popular among the USPS, and only made it through four people since its last reseed before disappearing again. 2) Eurovine #4: MIA since chinacat503's car was broken into last summer, and it's never been reseeded. Another unfortunate loss. *02/04 update: no change. Anybody got the DVD? C'mon, it's just a single DVD, I'll send you the blank and a postage-paid envelope! (there's not enough old'n'Dead around) 3) Gruga Halle 3/28/82 Vine: MIA since 10/1, last seen On The Road Again to That Nice Hippy Guy, PM'd both on 11/22. TNHG says he sent addy a couple of times but has received nothing; OTRA hasn't responded to PMs, and I sent him another 12/6. *02/04 update: still no reply from On The Road Again. Somebody mentioned they could reseed this, but I don't recall who it was. 4) Keith's First Few Months Vine: MIA since 8/25, last seen with von dingle. No reply to PMs to vd. This was a great big vine (several DVDs full) and has never been reseeded. 02/04 update: still missing/not reseeded. 5) Autumn '72 Part 1 - Sept Vine: MIA since 9/12, last seen thomasdbll to toddsnc, PM'd both on 11/22. Todd never received it and thomasdbll hasn't responded to either PMs or emails. 02/04 update: no change, vine is still kaput. 6) St. Louis 8-4-82 Vine: That Nice Hippy Guy, bless his heart, reseeded this vine as well but it may be MIA again. Chasmo posted he received it 12/24, but no further info. PM'd chasmo end of January but haven't heard back; maybe there's still hope for this one. 7) October '72 Vine: MIA since late June '08, Estim8ed to von dingle. Figure it disappeared at von dingle like the KFFM vine. Never was reseeded. *02/04 update: no change. 8) Carrierdome 10-20-84 vine: Last seen TNHG mailed to redgrenadine on 10/14. Heard back from redgrenadine (via email, not PM since red "hasn't been frequenting dead.net much"). He never received the vine. *02/04 update: Vine is still missing, has not been reseeded as yet. There's a bunch of other vines that are inactive, maybe not lost but just reached the end of their lists and have been idle for many months. ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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Your efforts are totally appreciated. It looks like the Boston Tea Party 1969 Vine is also MIA. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Thanks for that hard, tedious work. You are unofficially deputized as the unofficial Lost Vine Detective. That list was so long, I had to do a word search to see if I was listed as a perpetrator. I figured I was not since the posse had not come-a-knockin'.
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...before a vine gets added to the list. I don't send out the nag PMs until I see a vine hasn't moved in at least a couple of weeks, and I send add'l PMs to people who don't reply. That's why my out box has a pile of PMs to Billy S. PM'd emily and W&W about the BTP vine, forgot to add it before I posted the list. Thanks pomo1. Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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I think you should consider running up the GDP flag putting MITD on the payroll! I think he needs a job. "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
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I guess I will go ahead a reseed the jerry solo vine. Im gonna try really hard to keep that one alive for everyone, and also the St. Louis 82 vine again if it needs it. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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So to make up for sending the 93 by request vine to the wrong person here’s another vine. I know it would have been just as easy to burn 3 audio discs for 8/4 but I decided to give the whole flac thing a try. This is my first shot at burning flac discs so let me know if anyone has problems. This will be 5 cds of flac files all together Grateful Dead Beacon Theater New York, NY June 15, 1976 - Tuesday Source: Betty Cantor 7" two track reel w/DBX-1 @ 7 1/2 ips> PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz PCM501ES analog out>DBX-1 decoder> analog in PCM501ES analog out>Dat @ 48 kHz Jace Crouch’s original source WBOTB DAT via trailmix and Tim Deibert Patch Source: (shnid=#10307) Sony TC 153 Sony ECM 99A Mikes > Cassette x 2 > DAT Transfer: Panasonic SV-3700 > Cardas cable S/PDIF > Edirol UA-5 > USB > WaveLab @ [32bit float / 48kHz] Mastering: In WaveLab with Waves L3 Multimaximizer Rate Conversion with r8brain to [16bit/44.1kHz] > CD Wave > TLH > Flac Transfer and mastering by Bill Koucky November 26, 2008, Green Mountain Bros. 1st Set: 1. Promised land 2. Sugaree 3. Cassidy 4. Candyman 5. The Music Never Stopped 6. It Must Have Been The Roses 7. Looks Like Rain 8. Tennessee Jed 9. Let It Grow > 10. Might As Well Time: 84:14 2nd Set: 1. Tuning 2. Saint Stephen > 3. Not Fade Away > 4. Stella Blue 5. Samson & Delilah 6. Friend Of The Devil 7. Dancin’ In The Streets > 8. The Wheel > 9. Sugar Magnolia > 10. Scarlet Begonias > 11. Sunshine Daydream Encore: 12. Johnny B. Goode Time: 94:42 To Burn to 3 discs: Disc 1 s1t01 – s1t08 65:06 Disc 2 s1t09 – s2t06 77:25 Disc 3 s2t07 – s2t12 36:28 Grateful Dead 8/4/1976 Roosevelt Stadium Jersey City, NJ SBD>Cm>Reel>Lucid AD2496>CD>EAC>SHN (Tape Flips Patched w/(FOB) Shure Mics>Cm>Dat>CD) (parts of set 1 patched from video soundtrack) from Charlie Miller via Patrick Clifford with many thanks (my source for the show was bob wagner - cm) Disc 1 (79:25) Set 1: Sugaree (14:42) New Minglewood Blues (10:39) Row Jimmy (12:21) Big River (7:04) Loser (11:10) Looks Like Rain (7:50) They Love Each Other (8:56) The Music Never Stopped (6:39) Disc 2 (73:17) Set 1 continued: Scarlet Begonias (15:26) Set 2: Help On The Way--> (6:34) Slipknot--> (10:49) Franklin's Tower--> (12:16) Dancin' In The Streets--> (14:42) The Wheel--> (5:42) Samson & Delilah (7:45) Disc 3 (61:43) Set 2 continued: It Must Have Been The Roses (8:52) Not Fade Away--> (6:50) Drums--> (3:58) The Other One--> (16:43) Ship Of Fools (8:36) Sugar Magnolia (12:03) Johnny B. Goode (4:36)
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Trevor! A nice Betty Board and Charlie Choice. I'll look to sign up for these when Marye's ready to out these out. Thanks! "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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...you should screw up more often! ;^) (Those two '93 vines starting up together confused several people, and I can think of a few other cases of misaddressed vines just in the last month - and that's without involving confusing screennames) They look to be killer shows, now I'll have to live by the computer all weekend to catch the signup list early. gotta hate that! Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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Great, Im sure that you guys will like them. Ive actually had them ready to go for awhile. Just had to wait until things slowed down a little before I started it. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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I was going to cut back for awhile, but I cannot resist anything from 1976!! Thanks.If I sign up early enough, I will de-flac these for those Viners still living in a flacless world. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Our good friend and fellow viner Hippy signed up for a vine on another site and offered me the opportunity to help him put together a vine of the music here. I received 2 DVDs filled to the brim with killer shows from early '69, one of my favorite eras, and perhaps the greatest. Of course, there are the usual hiccups, cuts, fadouts, etc that must be expected from this era. But this is Grade A primal Dead. Thanks to Hippy for allowing me to help him. I grade most of the shows here as A- SBDs, with the notable exception of 2/14, which I grade as a B SBD. The vine will be 2 DVDs of the following shows in SHN/FLAC format: (Disc 1) 1/17, 1/24, 1/25, 1/26, 2/2, 2/4, 2/5, 2/6 and 2/7; and, (Disc 2) 2/12, 2/14, 2/15, 2/21, 2/22, and 3/15. As always, please stay behind the line until your number is called (in other words, wait to sign up until our friend marye creates a forum for this offering). Enjoy!
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A friend & co-worker who quit her job, sold her house, and moved to Alaska - because the time was right & it was what she wanted to do.( I used to tease her by calling her "you lean" (instead of Ei Leen) She left in late January, and should be arriving in Alaska sometime soon, I would think. - but then it's such a little car, with so much stuff... and such a long way to go all by herself - brave woman! Grateful Dead - June 19, 1980 West High Auditorium - Anchorage, AK Set 1: d1t01 - Alabama Getaway -> d1t02 - The Promised Land d1t03 - They Love Each Other -> d1t04 - El Paso d1t05 - Tennessee Jed d1t06 - Cassidy d1t07 - Althea -> d1t08 - Looks Like Rain d1t09 - Far From Me d1t10 - The Music Never Stopped Set 2: d2t01 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t02 - I Know You Rider -> d2t03 - C C Rider d2t04 - Peggy-O d2t05 - Lost Sailor -> d2t06 - Saint Of Circumstance -> d2t07 - Drums -> d2t08 - Space -> d2t09 - Wharf Rat -> d2t10 - I Need A Miracle -> d2t11 - Bertha -> d2t12 - Good Lovin' Encore: d1t11 - U.S. Blues 6/20/80 - Grateful Dead West High Auditorium Anchorage, AK Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Jack Straw -> d1t03 - Franklin's Tower -> d1t04 - Mama Tried -> d1t05 - Mexicali Blues d1t06 - Friend Of The Devil d1t07 - Let It Grow -> d1t08 - Althea d1t09 - Easy To Love You d1t10 - Tuning d2t01 - Lost Sailor -> d2t02 - Saint Of Circumstance -> d2t03 - Deal Set 2: d2t04 - Alabama Getaway -> d2t05 - Greatest Story Ever Told d2t06 - Ship Of Fools d3t01 - Estimated Prophet -> d3t02 - The Other One -> d3t03 - Drums -> d3t04 - Space -> d3t05 - Not Fade Away -> d3t06 - Black Peter -> d3t07 - Around And Around -> d3t08 - Johnny B. Goode Encore: d3t09 - Don't Ease Me In Grateful Dead West High Auditorium Anchorage, AK June 21, 1980 SBD + AUD Matrix Mix (60%-SBD/40%-AUD) Disc 1 01 [14:48] Sugaree > 02 [07:49] Minglewood 03 [07:04] Candyman 04 [03:00] Me And My Uncle > 05 [06:07] Big River 06 [08:03] Loser 07 [03:37] Lazy Lightning > 08 [06:01] Supplication 09 [04:17] Far From Me 10 [07:55] Ramble on Rose 11 [08:38] Feel Like a Stranger TT [77:18] Disc 2 01 [04:36] Big Railroad Blues 02 [07:53] Samson & Delilah 03 [11:41] Terrapin Station > 04 [13:51] Playin' In The Band > 05 [07:51] Drums > 06 [04:13] Space > 07 [09:07] Truckin' > 08 [09:36] Stella Blue > 09 [09:09] Sugar Magnolia Encore 10 [04:38] One More Saturday Night 11 [06:07] Brokedown Palace TT [88:41] **requires a 90 min CDR**
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That is just too cool (figuratively *and* literally speaking, I guess). You go, girl. Wish I had the balls to do something similar (don't think Alaska would be involved, though, I'm sick of ice and snow). Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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These are some of my favorite shows! Those two and 7-8-78 have a permanent residence in my cars passenger seat. (im kind of messy)
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Grateful Dead - June 8, 1974Coliseum Stadium - Oakland, CA Recording Info: Set 1 + Encores: SBD -> Master Reel -> Reel -> Reel -> Wavelab -> FLAC Set 2: SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat -> Wavelab -> FLAC Re-Mastering Info: FLAC -> Adobe Audition v1.5 -> Samplitude Professional v10.2 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) Re-mastered By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net February 4, 2009 Patch Info: Sony ECM250 -> Master Cassette -> FLAC (shnid=94594) supplies: U.S. Blues (complete track) Big River (complete track) Ship Of Fools (complete track) Playing In The Band (17:00 - 17:20) Sugar Magnolia (complete track) Notes: -- All disc changes are seamless -- This is a re-master of shnid=97182 -- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction -- Thanks to Matt Smith, Pat Lee, Jamie Waddell and David Gans for the SBD -- Thanks to Bob Menke for the AUD source -- I cleaned up some flaws and pitch corrected some tracks Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - The Promised Land d1t03 - Brown Eyed Women d1t04 - Me And Bobby McGee d1t05 - Scarlet Begonias d1t06 - Mexicali Blues d1t07 - It Must Have Been The Roses d1t08 - Me And My Uncle d1t09 - Tennessee Jed d1t10 - Greatest Story Ever Told d1t11 - China Cat Sunflower -> d1t12 - I Know You Rider d2t01 - Around And Around Set 2: d2t02 - U.S. Blues d2t03 - Big River d2t04 - Ship Of Fools d2t05 - Playing In The Band -> d2t06 - Wharf Rat -> d2t07 - Playing In The Band d3t01 - Eyes Of The World d3t02 - Sugar Magnolia Encore: d3t03 - Casey Jones -> d3t04 - One More Saturday Night ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Grateful Dead Iowa State Fairgrounds Des Moines, IA 6/16/74 - Sunday Per Andy Lemieux, the source of this is as follows: Set 1: MSR>C>DAT>CD Set 2 & 3: MSC>DAT>CD (except for patch in Wharf Rat which is MSR>?>DAT>CD) DISC ONE [70:06] set one-a: 01 [08:04] Bertha 02 [04:16] Mexicali Blues 03 [08:56] Row Jimmy 04 [05:53] Beat It On Down The Line 05 [09:22] Scarlet Begonias 06 [08:00] Black-Throated Wind 07 [08:39] Sugaree 08 [05:27] El Paso 09 [06:10] It Must Have Been The Roses 10 [05:14] Jack Straw note: splice in Bertha at 4:05; splice in Sugaree at 2:25. DISC TWO [56:49] set one-end: 01 [10:24] China Cat Sunflower > 02 [05:39] I Know You Rider 03 [04:48] Around And Around set two-a: 04 [06:35] U.S. Blues 05 [03:17] The Race Is On 06 [15:24] Eyes Of The World > 07 [05:01] Jam 1 > 08 [05:37] Big River DISC THREE [59:03] set two-end: 01 [29:19] Playing In The Band set three-a: 02 [08:17] Tennessee Jed 03 [03:07] Me And My Uncle 04 [06:00] Deal 05 [06:11] Greatest Story Ever Told 06 [06:05] Ship Of Fools DISC FOUR [46:22] set three-end: 01 [07:11] Truckin' > 02 [05:15] Nobody's Fault But Mine Jam > 03 [04:03] Jam 2 > 04 [04:41] Jam 3 > 05 [09:43] Wharf Rat > 06 [08:14] Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad encore: 07 [07:14] Casey Jones note: splice in Wharf Rat at 2:51 Based on Alan Fink's patched version: ...I used Steve Windsor's notes from his version: ...to verify and make the fixes myself. I also made several additional fixes, including... -- Removed two additional pops from Eyes Of The World at 14:35 and 15:10. -- Patched the splice in Wharf Rat with MSR>?>DAT>CD. Even after patching, it sounds like there may be a small chunk of material missing. -- Removed four additional pops from GDTRFB at 6:41, 6:43, 6:45 and 6:47. -- Patched the start of Casey Jones with alternate MSC>DAT>CD source. -- Retracked each disc so that tuning follows songs at the end of tracks. Kudos to Alan and Steve for their hard work. Thanks to Andy for the patch material for Wharf Rat. Sean Cribbs, 10/22/2004 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 20th June 1974 Sbd Clugston no infi file ******************************************************************** Audience Devotional Tree Round 17 - March, 2003 GRATEFUL DEAD Wednesday, June 26, 1974 Providence Civic Center - Providence, RI Audience Recording AudMC > WAV > CD > EAC > SHN Recorded by Jerry Moore near the rear of the floor, close to center axis with Sony ECM-99 Stereo mic (on metal pole) > Sony 152 deck. Maxell UD-120 cassettes, with Dolby B ON. Analog > Digital by David Minches January, 2003 Master Cassettes played back on Nak Dragon > ART DI/O > HD > Cool Edit 2000 > Feurio (CD) EAC & SHN by Noah Weiner February, 2003 EAC > MKW Audio Compression Toolkit (shn) DISC ONE [52:29] set one-a: 01 [02:36] crowd & tuning 02 [06:49] Big River 03 [05:54] Brown Eyed Women 04 [04:32] Beat It On Down The Line 05 [09:30] Scarlet Begonias 06 [09:38] Black Throated Wind 07 [10:11] Row Jimmy 08 [03:19] Mexicali Blues DISC TWO [59:31] set one-end: 01 [01:34] crowd & "technical malady time" 02 [06:10] Deal 03 [04:23] The Race Is On 04 [09:03] Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodeloo 05 [06:51] El Paso 06 [08:41] Ship Of Fools 07 [01:19] Weather Report Suite Prelude > 08 [04:25] Weather Report Suite Part One > 09 [11:05] Let It Grow > 10 [06:00] It Must Have Been The Roses DISC THREE [54:55] set 1.5: 01 [22:17] Seastones set two-a: 02 [02:05] crowd & tuning 03 [06:02] US Blues 04 [03:33] Me And My Uncle 05 [02:28] Jam > 06 [13:14] China Cat Sunflower > 07 [05:16] I Know You Rider DISC FOUR [70:13] set two-end: 01 [01:11] crowd & tuning 02 [01:06] Beer Barrel Polka tuning 03 [13:40] Truckin' > 04 [02:12] Other One Jam* > 05 [15:20] Spanish Jam** > 06 [09:53] Wharf Rat > 07 [13:56] Sugar Magnolia encore: 08 [12:55] Eyes Of The World *begins with brief Drums and Bass solo **dissolves into long space jam ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Grateful Dead 6/26/74 Providence Civic Center, Providence, RI Source for disk 1: SBD>MR>C>DAT>CDR Contributed by Skankweed Source for discs 2,3: MSR > Reel > 4xDAT > CDR (HHB CDR-850) > SHN (EACx2) Contributed by John Oleynick (previous d1 from this source had problems, was withdrawn) Disc 1 ---- Set 1 ---- 1. Big River 2. Brown-Eyed Women 3. Beat It On Down the Line 4. Scarlet Begonias 5. Black-Throated Wind 6. Row Jimmy 7. Mexicali Blues 8. Deal 9. The Race Is On 10. Mississippi Halfstep 11. El Paso 12. Ship of Fools Disc 2 ---- Set 1 Continued ---- 1. Weather Report Suite Prelude > 2. Weather Report Suite Part 1 > 2. Let It Grow > 3. It Must Have Been the Roses ---- Set 2 ---- 4. // U.S. Blues 5. Me & My Uncle 6. Jam > 7. China Cat Sunflower > 8. I Know You Rider Disc 3 ---- Set 2 Continued ---- 1. Beer Barrel Polka Tuning 2. Truckin' > 3. The Other One Jam > 4. Spanish Jam > 5. Wharf Rat > 6. Sugar Magnolia ---- Encore ---- 7. Eyes of the World _____________________________________________________ Grateful Dead Boston Garden, Boston, MA June 28, 1974 - Set I Source: SBD>MR>DAT>Sonic Solutions>CD>?>EAC>SHN EAC'ed / SHN'ed by Tom Snider, Jr. 07/25/2002 Thanks to Jeff Cook for sending me the cd audio of this fine first set. 01. Mississippi Half Step-> 7:29 02. It Must Have Been The Roses-> 4:59 03. Jack Straw 5:16 04. Beat It On Down The Line 3:24 05. "Gold Plated Reconing" 0:40 06. Deal 5:02 07. Mexicali Blues 3:21 08. Tennessee Jed 8:02 09. Me And Bobby McGee 5:30 10. "The Sound Of Time Passing" 1:58 01. Loose Lucy 5:02 12. El Paso 4:21 13. Sugaree 7:03 14. Around & Around 5:22 Total Play Time: 1:07:36 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 30th june 74 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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certainly at the top of my list of shows I'd like to see released... I'll try to get all these up later on today. Thanks!
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Sunshine came softly through my window today..... Some of the tunes from Providence 6/26 are on Dick's Picks #12, disc 1 and the start of disc 2. This sure gets a lot of spin time at my place: reference China Cat > Know U Rider thru Sugar Magnolia with a rare encore - Eyes of the World!! What a great month June was in 1974. When's David going to have a David's Pix, or is the Rhino deal the only game in town?
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Will the "officially released" songs have to be omitted, or can the show remain complete since it's an audience recording? ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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This one's hosed, at least half of it is. dammit. ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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.....I need the first set of 6/28 so I have the complete show (can you hear the whine??). Mind left body jam needs its first set sister!!!! We can at least seed that......just a suggestion. :)
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If its an aud it's not normally considered an officially released recording and that's fine. When vined shows include the odd song from a compilation or bonus material or filler, that normally gets through DP 12 includes the whole of set 2 of June 26 except for Me and My Uncle and US Blues. It includes the whole of Set 2 of June 28.
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ok will pull it, i was trying to get all 74 stuff out there - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Wait and see what marye sez, it's probably OK to vine the stuff that's not on DP 12 - there's a couple of other vines that just omit the DP'd sets, at least we'd be able to piece together the complete shows. Speaking of complete shows, there's a rumor via Sirius of an upcoming release - anybody hear about it? Thanks for the potential vine Sunshine-Daydream! MarkintheDark ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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SD I suggest if you do anything you just pull the offending tracks from set 2 of June 26 as plenty of folks may like the first set and are probably desperate to get yet another Me & My Uncle and US Blues!
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it is the Ally Pally shows that are going to be awakward Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I already vined the 'missing bits' compilation from Ally Pally in the Europe '74 Vine. Its quite good as the text file contains detailed instructions how to reconstruct the shows using the DP material.